Saigon
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It's interesting to see Roudy and Rosie work so hard to prove the OP's theory correct.
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Apparently your perception of cause-n-effect is hopelessly skewed: Or that Gaza and the West Bank share no history of criminal abuse by--- or justifiable address against the Israeli government? And Lebanon you say??? What possible grudge could Lebanon have against the U.S..Israeli axis? "Intrigued"? is that a nice way of saying mindlessly confused?
your response makes no sense I am very clear on issues of cause and effect. Your query "are we to believe that an attack on the U.S. was the starting-point of history"?
borders on psychotic
what does your ------- in of criminal abuse by--- mean?
if you are referring to the history of the conflict in the middle east------you are referring to a very long history-----more than 2500 years of recorded history
Quite the contrary---your response is selectively parsed and completely void of any inclusive overview...kindly elaborate on your thesis that challenging the perception that history began with 9/11 "borders on psychotic"....when you have cleared that hurdle google "criminal abuse" and cross-refernce it with Israel...if the point doesn't immediately appear I'd conclude you are a lockstep Zionist
Irosie: (Hitler)
"he would never have accomplished so difficult a feat without the help of people of your ilk In fact he was very confident that he has enough support in the USA and in england to continue his program and he did His biggest obstacle was the brain drain-----all the jewish scientists either fled or died. Brain drain is a problem for your fascist heros of Iran too"
Irosie, the problem with many Jews on this board is seeing criticisms of Israeli policies as anti-Semitism, pure and simple.
My argument with American Jews is not a question of Ethnicity or Religion but one of Politics...Why should American Citizens be loyal to a foreign power? I mean my Uncles and Father fought the Fascists in their native Italy...
I understand the fear of the universal holocausts that have plagued Jews throughout history. That's why I support a peace to the renegotiated 67 borders, to allay that universal fear, perhaps a peace.
I really think Israel was re-created in a dangerous area. What is the alternative, waiting for War? I believe a peace will foster trade and acceptance, and relieve Americas constant war footing bankrupting us.
Its not about hate Rosie, I have never met A Jew I disliked. Its about American Patriotism...the land that has given this poor Sicilian immigrant many opportunities!
Sicilian? I grew up in a town with lots of WASP nazi types-----and in neighboring towns there was a Mafia presence but they cause no harm locally------nobody really knew who those dead bodies that FLOATED UP IN PARTS in the local river had been In any case my own family was among the first of the jewish families in town and we caused a bit of a stir by breathing oxygen yours would have probably never been allowed to buy a house even with a VA mortgage. Getting back to the MAFIA ------it developed in Sicily------do you know why? I will tell you-------it was a reaction against islamic control of that island I have noticed that sicilian culture is HIGHLY INFLUENCED by islamic culture not only in cuisine-------but in social attitudes ----even the attitude towards women is influenced by arab/muslim "culture" Lots of people were IRKED by Italians in my town------they called them WOPS or GREASERS considered the MAFIA to be the greatest scourge and every Italian a member -----------
When Kennedy ran for president ----they went wild--------he as not only PRO-POPE----he was also PRO MAFIA
oh peeballs -------you bring me back to my childhood ---btw---you are an anti semite
and you have an affinity to some foreign religion-----developed in the same place in which the MAFIA was born ------and the "legal system" ----to wit the JUSTINAN CODE----upon which the nuremburg laws were based Your people from your little Island have created a huge amount of crime in many major cities Even I know people who have relatives murdered by that SICILIAN group of immigrants. Is that anyway to TREAT YOUR BENEFACTORS?
Long ago----when I was a child----there appeared letters to the editor ----in local papers ------defending "the mafia"
Oh! Why do I answer this Rambling Rose the 'Ikooksie?' The Jewish Mafia was well established by the time Italians immigrated to America...Bugsy and Myer ring a bell?
Sicilian? I grew up in a town with lots of WASP nazi types-----and in neighboring towns there was a Mafia presence but they cause no harm locally------nobody really knew who those dead bodies that FLOATED UP IN PARTS in the local river had been In any case my own family was among the first of the jewish families in town and we caused a bit of a stir by breathing oxygen yours would have probably never been allowed to buy a house even with a VA mortgage. Getting back to the MAFIA ------it developed in Sicily------do you know why? I will tell you-------it was a reaction against islamic control of that island I have noticed that sicilian culture is HIGHLY INFLUENCED by islamic culture not only in cuisine-------but in social attitudes ----even the attitude towards women is influenced by arab/muslim "culture" Lots of people were IRKED by Italians in my town------they called them WOPS or GREASERS considered the MAFIA to be the greatest scourge and every Italian a member -----------
When Kennedy ran for president ----they went wild--------he as not only PRO-POPE----he was also PRO MAFIA
oh peeballs -------you bring me back to my childhood ---btw---you are an anti semite
and you have an affinity to some foreign religion-----developed in the same place in which the MAFIA was born ------and the "legal system" ----to wit the JUSTINAN CODE----upon which the nuremburg laws were based Your people from your little Island have created a huge amount of crime in many major cities Even I know people who have relatives murdered by that SICILIAN group of immigrants. Is that anyway to TREAT YOUR BENEFACTORS?
Long ago----when I was a child----there appeared letters to the editor ----in local papers ------defending "the mafia"
Oh! Why do I answer this Rambling Rose the 'Ikooksie?' The Jewish Mafia was well established by the time Italians immigrated to America...Bugsy and Myer ring a bell?
Do you ever have anything but your ignorance and stupidity to share with this board?
"The Mafia emerged in New York's Lower East Side and other areas of the East Coast of the United States during the late 19th century following waves of Italian immigration, especially from Sicily."
American Mafia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
The Sniffer Says:Sicilian? I grew up in a town with lots of WASP nazi types-----and in neighboring towns there was a Mafia presence but they cause no harm locally------nobody really knew who those dead bodies that FLOATED UP IN PARTS in the local river had been In any case my own family was among the first of the jewish families in town and we caused a bit of a stir by breathing oxygen yours would have probably never been allowed to buy a house even with a VA mortgage. Getting back to the MAFIA ------it developed in Sicily------do you know why? I will tell you-------it was a reaction against islamic control of that island I have noticed that sicilian culture is HIGHLY INFLUENCED by islamic culture not only in cuisine-------but in social attitudes ----even the attitude towards women is influenced by arab/muslim "culture" Lots of people were IRKED by Italians in my town------they called them WOPS or GREASERS considered the MAFIA to be the greatest scourge and every Italian a member -----------
When Kennedy ran for president ----they went wild--------he as not only PRO-POPE----he was also PRO MAFIA
oh peeballs -------you bring me back to my childhood ---btw---you are an anti semite
and you have an affinity to some foreign religion-----developed in the same place in which the MAFIA was born ------and the "legal system" ----to wit the JUSTINAN CODE----upon which the nuremburg laws were based Your people from your little Island have created a huge amount of crime in many major cities Even I know people who have relatives murdered by that SICILIAN group of immigrants. Is that anyway to TREAT YOUR BENEFACTORS?
Long ago----when I was a child----there appeared letters to the editor ----in local papers ------defending "the mafia"
Oh! Why do I answer this Rambling Rose the 'Ikooksie?' The Jewish Mafia was well established by the time Italians immigrated to America...Bugsy and Myer ring a bell?
Do you ever have anything but your ignorance and stupidity to share with this board?
"The Mafia emerged in New York's Lower East Side and other areas of the East Coast of the United States during the late 19th century following waves of Italian immigration, especially from Sicily."
American Mafia - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Cool. So what?They were Jewish gangsters. They grew up going to synagogue and celebrating holidays and Sabbath, but as they got older, they were anything but orthodox. Feb 25, 2012 ... Julius Bernstein was a relic of a different era: Raised in the Depression, a genuine World War II hero and the last of New York's great Jewish ...
Yeah right, it's the Jews fault! You're just as bad as as they are.One of the other interesting things about racists and especially the extreme right is how deeply offended these people can be by moderates.
I've found moderates often drive extremists far crazier than the people the extremists have learned to hate.
Thus I think one of the reason the term 'anti-semitism' 'Jew-hater' and 'Islamo Nazi (sic)' are thrown around so much is one way of the racists targetting moderates and centrists.
Certainly I can't think of much else that explains it.
I also wonder how much of the genuine anti-semitism we see here from Ariux, Sundowner et al is driven by the amount of anti-Arab racism present on the board. One group do tend to hunt out the other.
the conclusion that Saigon has which is 'arab racism is a consequence of 'jewish racism'-----to be brief-----Saigon expressed an opinion of "fact" that he knows to be a lie
Peeballs finally understands-----what he likes to refer to as the "jewish mafia" were really small time jewish criminals ---rejected by the jewish community---who sought comfort amongst the criminals of the MAFIA who were honored as PRINCES in the Sicilian community. When a criminal has the love and support of his own community---he is far safer and able to persist in criminal activites far longer----a fact which underlies the LONG persistence of the MAFIA and even the longevity of the Ardently WANTED OSAMA BIN LADEN
Bugsy knew where his bread was buttered
Saigon, I can agree with you in a very limited sense - but to even suggest that the moist extreme Jew-baiting posters on this board - the ones you've named - are 'reacting' is absolutely obscene.
Anyone who's read Hoffer's 'True Believer' could recognize them as such form their posts. Maybe you're not familiar with the vocabulary of 'racist' anti-Jewish hate as promoted by Matt Hale and other murderers?
While I acknowledge that MANY posters - Jewish or not - participate in 'anti-Arab racism' - I do NOT indulge in such. After all, not only are some of my close relatives Arabs (and not all Jewish ones - and yes, one can indeed be both, as one can be Israeli and Muslim!) - but 'Arabs' in general are Biblically my cousins. (No, I don't read my Bible literally)
There are plenty of 'other' posters - people who don't usually post in this section, and who aren't notably 'pro-Israel' or 'anti-Arab' who despise the verbal filth splattered all over these threads by those posters you've named. In fact, a fair number of the Muslim posters here have slammed those two. That suggests to me that your idea has little merit.
Let's not excuse the 'racist' attacks on Jews and Judaism as some 'reaction' to anything: IT IS NOT. It is the expression of a 'core belief' of a very sick mindset.
the conclusion that Saigon has which is 'arab racism is a consequence of 'jewish racism'-----to be brief-----Saigon expressed an opinion of "fact" that he knows to be a lie
I don't think we can know which came first - either in history or on this board - and likely one form of racism sprang into being a millisecond after the first curse was thrown from the other side.
My point is more that your racism invites anti-semitism, just as anti-semitism invites hatred directed towards Muslims. It's a loop of ignorance and intolerance. It does so both here and in the outside world.
What you have to ask yourself is - how does your racism help anything?
from my own experience working with muslims arab, iranian, southeast asian ----I LEARNED that culturally-----expressions of UTTER DISDAIN and HATRED ---directed at the 'other' are EXTREMELY
prevalent in the normal every day conversation.
from my own experience working with muslims arab, iranian, southeast asian ----I LEARNED that culturally-----expressions of UTTER DISDAIN and HATRED ---directed at the 'other' are EXTREMELY
prevalent in the normal every day conversation.
I agree with this.
I find many Middle Eastern peoples very in-your-face, very aggresive and confrontational - though actually rarely overtly abusive. It's clearly a cultural thing.
That does mean when we are in those countries we need to expect communication that is more intense than what we are used to - although I don't attempt to be as confrontational as Israelis, Turks or Egyptians can be!
But abuse is a different thing, and this forum is not in the Middle East.
I would really suggest you drop the racial abuse (i.e. pig this, pig that) and focus instead more on expressing your opinions and thoughts without it.
Saigon, you piece of shit coksucker, Stormfront regular, why do always have something to say when Jews respond to anti semitism? You're no different than the neo Nazis out there that claim that "the Jews declared war against Germany and left the Germans no choice". Do you really think anybody believes ignorant garbage like you or Ariux come here on a daily basis to "discuss issues", or, perhaps it's because you're Jew hating scum? Well in your case you disguise your Jew hate as an anti Zionist who gets really really upset when Jews humiliate fellow racists like Ariux, and try to point the finger at the Jew.the conclusion that Saigon has which is 'arab racism is a consequence of 'jewish racism'-----to be brief-----Saigon expressed an opinion of "fact" that he knows to be a lie
I don't think we can know which came first - either in history or on this board - and likely one form of racism sprang into being a millisecond after the first curse was thrown from the other side.
My point is more that your racism invites anti-semitism, just as anti-semitism invites hatred directed towards Muslims. It's a loop of ignorance and intolerance. It does so both here and in the outside world.
What you have to ask yourself is - how does your racism help anything?