Offical Impeachment Thread

[Flopper]

You are just unbelievable full of crap.

Drug problems of Hunter was way before he became a board members and work prestigious companies here in US ..... before he joined Burisma.

Like I told you before board member of a company like Gas or Coal, Exxon, Gold..... it’s very very easy. You don’t have to mix chemicals.

More commie lies, baby Biden joined the Burisma board in Apr 2014, he was roaming homeless encampments in CA looking for crack in 2015. Learn the language so you can understand.

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Please tell Putin to mind his own business. In 2014, Biden Junior was already a multi millionaire by his own devices.

Bullshit, his wife said he was blowing money so fast they couldn't even pay their bills. It's all in the Politico article. Educate your lying hillbilly ass.

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A lot of unproven stuff in that article. Who really cares what Hunter Biden did? Only you Trumpettes looking to distract from the fact your orange buddy is a crooked piece of shit.

You said, "Who really cares what Hunter Biden did?"
America doesn't go into foreign countries and demand that that country fire a federal judge so their son can get rich quick.

Stop being a dolt anytime at all, preferably before you face St. Peter and have to account for cozying up to such obvious false witnesses as the gross liars with trickle down lies to minions like you who feed on their hatred for an American President who's in there every day, doing his job so that the American people can remain employed and jobs come back to America to make it happen.

It's quite easy for Trump and associates to create all kinds of scenarios of misconduct by Hunter Biden in the Ukraine and create other scenarios linking Joe Biden. However, without an offical investigation in the Ukraine, those scenarios will remain unproven conspiracy theories. The Orange Clown has given his best shot at trying to pressure Ukraine into investigating Biden and has failed so it looks like he's is going to have to get busy on Twitter.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Trump came under heavy criticism of holding aid, even by Lindsey Graham. He was getting it from both sides. So he released the money. Schiff Head never even gave it a thought. He never brought it up out of all the witnesses he hauled into that inquiry.

Bottom line: Trump had good reason to hold the money, and he had good reason to release it, all without the concern he had for the Biden's. So to try and make the case that it was only because of the Biden's would never hold up in a court of law. It's called circumstantial evidence.

I don't know if the administration has manufactured a reason after the fact of why the funds were held but reported emails from the chief of staff certainly show they were looking for a sound reason. There seems no doubt as too why the funds were released on Sept 2, two days before the House announced they were starting an investigation.

The funds were released on September 11th.

I stand corrected. On Sept 10, meetings were scheduled in the House which would become the beginning of the investigation. On Sept 12, Ukraine was notified the freeze was lifted and Pelosi formally announced the investigation on Sept 24th.

Fact Sheet: DOD Certified that Ukraine Met Corruption Benchmarks | United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Okay, we have that straightened out. But don't you think that our government agencies have checked things out before other Presidents have held money back? Because let's be honest here, it's not like Trump is the first one, it's the reason why he did it that's in debate. And Democrats are making assumptions instead of presenting facts.

When Trump asked Zelensky to investigate and mentioned the Bidens, that's not an assumption but fact. Nor is there any assumption that Sondland, a lifelong republican who contributed a million dollars to the Trump campaign, who spoke with the president over 20 times, stated that there was no doubt that there was a quid pro quote between Trump and Zelensky. There was certainly no assumption that Trump froze military aid and would not meet with Zelensky. There is plenty of hearsay evidence, some of it confirmed and some not as well as a lot of circumstantial evidence.

With a federal judge now requiring the president's lawyer to testify, many documents subpoenaed by the House may soon be released. If that happens, many of the assumptions and hearsay will become direct evidence. The question is whether the House will wait for that to happen.

Don't count on that. I'm sure Trump has had his people working on the appeal since the news came out.

I never said that his "favor" to "look into" the Biden's didn't happen, what I said was it was not hinged on US aid. Trump never said it, and more importantly, it never happened.

Sondland is entitled to his opinions, but his opinions are not fact, they are assumptions. He repeatedly said he heard or knew nothing of the Biden investigation. He said he was convinced that a quid pro quo was on the announcement of an investigation, not an actual investigation itself.

So in light of Sondland's testimony, what the Democrats are saying is that they are going to impeach a President based on an announcement from another country, and again, that is if you can prove Trump actually did it.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Yah, Putin told Rump to say that and Rump told you to say that. We all know who the real President of the United States is and he lives in Moscow.

Your photo cartoon is a lie. There was no collusion of Trump with Russia, and there won't be most likely unless the entire world is enslaved by a superior race from outer space. I disbelieve such a thing.

You have to understand, that in order to be a true leftist, you have to have a weak mind that can be molded like play doh. The puppet masters created this myth, and in spite of the evidence Trump had nothing to do with Russian interference, the puppet masters keep pulling the strings.

The power of suggestion only works if you keep the suggestion alive in their heads, that way they have no understanding they are a target.

As per being a true Party of Rumper. I agree that an extemist left winger would fit that description but the numbers would be quite small. There is a reason that Bernie can never win a Presidential election and that Warren has had to change her positions of late because she has pretty well fallen off the edge of the earth. The majority of the "Left" don't fit your categorization though.

Much like the majority of the right don't fit the "POT" definition either. What makes both extremes work is the spreading of Hate and misinformation. And Putins bunch is helping out both sides. Mostly, they are helping out the Rumpsters in information, memes, etc.. You are showing that the Meddling that was found at such a prolific level by the Russians is probably even worse today than it was starting in 2014. The bills to go after this meddling is sitting on Moscow Mitch's desk on hold and won't see the light of day until Rump and Moscow Mitch are gone. Putin doesn't want it therefore Rump doesn't want it therefore Moscow Mitch must block it. And it's feeding BOTH sides in hate and misinformation. And I keep seeing you repeating some of that misinformation on more than just a daily basis. Does that definition fit you as well?

Actually, you were one of the people I was talking about. Need evidence?

Go through your last 20 posts in this topic, and count for me the number of times you didn't mention Russia or Putin.

Should you accept the challenge, you will then see what I was explaining about the power of suggestion. You are a victim of their strategy.

I can name numerous post by you where you have repeated GRU generated hate information. Maybe it's about time we started to really start discussing cleaning things up. Notice I don't repeat the Left GRU provided information. Oh, I could but it's so outlandish that it's beyond belief. If you want to stop using the GRU influenced information just how much would you really have to say? Not much, I would imagine. But, like I said, and many others like Mueller, the NSA, the CIA and more, the Russian influence is even worse today than it was in 2014. So, before you go off on some outlandish claim, think. How sane does this sound, could this be a GRU originated piece, and did you do a good enough background check with reliable sources to back it up. So far, the answer has been no. You just seize on it and let it spout.

There is no challenge here. If you continue with regurgitating GRU supported information then you have become not only UnAmerican but should just move to Moscow and apply for citizenship there if you aren't there already.

 

[beautress]

The man is one cool guy and really honest and smart Not at all like Nunes

Adam Schiff?? The recipe is 1 part Vodka to 4 parts eggnog mix I think you got that backwards Eddie.

What I don't get blues is Dems have the smartest most well informed people in the media and as ambassadors and in our reps in congress ,and repubs have nothing better than to call them non trumpers and liars ?? Can't you see what trump and the few loyal to him are doing to America?? And it ain't good

You said, "Dems have the smartest most well informed people in the media"
Well informed ONLY in Democrat demands that they read from the talking points script provided them, for which they earn paychecks they do not deserve. Compromized Democrat infotainment operatives "smart" to get easy money provided by six Democrat tycoons who get rich quick when Democrats "look the other way" for them and infotainment reporters lie their asses off pretending to be "good guys," but they're not. They take the low road, the big bucks, and are nothing but parrots who do not bother to validate propaganda and lies the Democrats use to get what they can while they can bamboozle and fool the American people. A lot of the American people wised up to the bullshit of Madcow and others and just Walked away from the shriveling Democrats whose multicandidates for President hardly bring a small fraction of the people out that President Trump attracts. That's because the American people have caught on to the infotainment liar's club the Democrat Party has made of the leftist lockstep media liars, who change channels when the lies are exposed.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Bullshit. There was no active investigation ongoing into Burisma when Shokin was sacked.

Timeline in Ukraine Probe Casts Doubt on Giuliani’s Biden Claim

But what has received less attention is that at the time Biden made his ultimatum, the probe into the company -- Burisma Holdings, owned by Mykola Zlochevsky -- had been long dormant, according to the former official, Vitaliy Kasko.​

Investigation was officially closed by Yuriy Lutsenko, who was Shokin successor.

That means that investigation into Burisma was still open when Shokin was fired.

As per his own words, he was given list of people that he cannot prosecute. Who gave him a list?

US Ambassador Yovanovich.

Top Ukrainian justice official says US ambassador gave him a do not prosecute list

"That means that investigation into Burisma was still open when Shokin was fired."

That's why I said, "dormant," and not, "closed."

I swear, you people have the brain of a gnat.

Haven't you ever heard the phrase...sitting on it...?...burying it...?....

I don't care what you want to call it -- there was no active investigation into Burisma when Biden got Shokin fired.

Why are you defending corruption?...what the fuck is your problem?...we all know Joe and who he is...he has been the most corrupted senator we have seen in a long time...his family and he are filthy rich with bank accounts all over Europe......his family members land the best do nothing jobs on the planet....
You attack Trump over made up shit while you defend open corruption by Biden.....you make me sick...you are exactly what is wrong with our nation...its fucks like you that are ruining the greatest nation on earth....
You are a dog shit pile in the roadway of American advancement liberty and justice....GOP bad DNC good...that is your mantra no matter how much evidence to the contrary gets shoved in your faggot commie fascist face....its a good thing your type is dying off...and your ideology is being exposed as anti freedom...and anti American....

If he's corrupt, fine. Go get him. But do it right. Don't use corrupt channels to do it. Don't send one criminal using criminal actions to go after another criminal. And that may very well be where we are right now. We clean up one Criminal at a time. Right now, the criminal we are trying to deal with is Rump who is the larger and more important criminal. After we deal with Rump, if you believe that Biden is a criminal worth going after then we should go after him. But one criminal at a time.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

He did when one of the Republican ranking members told him to quote what the President told him. And after his memory had been refreshed by Jim Jordan, he parrotted the reading from the phone call replayed. The President said effectively, "I want nothing. I want nothing. No quid pro quo." You'd know that if you ever bothered to listen to the phone call that was also recorded and replayed on a conservative news program whihc your fellow democrats constantly diss, even when it is obvious the tape is authentic. Sondland parrotted exactly what the president said, and he remembered it well, but not until a Republican House member questioned him. That changed the entire morning arranged quotations by Democrats trying to conceal what the President Donald Trump actually said by avoiding it entirely and making certain it was not placed in Sondland's 22 pages of opening testimony papers, for which the Republicans jumped on this tangled web weaver like ugly on an ape, which Sondland a lot more than deserved for concealing the actual words of President Trump all morning long. But Jim Jordan wasn't worried. he had the actual tape, and he reminded everyone what the president said in a way they couldn't ignore it.

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It doesn’t matter what Jordan, Nunes or you said. It doesn’t matter.

What matter is he admitted there is quid pro quo.

You people are bunch of LIARS.

What he said is "he thought" there was a quid pro quo. What he thought does not mean it was ordered by Trump. You can't impeach a President justifiably by what somebody else thought they were doing. The exact words from Trump to Soundland were No Quid Pro Quo's.

Mob Bosses get convicted all the time for Conspiracy to commit murder when they tell their underlings, "Make him go away". That's code for kill them. There are enough code phrases from Rump that show he was directing it from the git go.

Really? You in the mob to know that? And what cases are on file of a mob boss saying "make him go away" and convicted of a murder that never happened?

Even if your made-up story were true, in comparison to this situation, that would be like saying the authorities made up the definition of the phrase, not the mob, but was convicted on murder for defining the phrase.

You really need to go back and learn some history. It's almost impossible to convict a mob boss under that condition. So they go after peripheral things like taxes, extortion, and more and convict them of those. Ever wonder why they are going after Rump for a lot of things? Like a mob boss, he has done a lot of things that were and are wrong. The list is alarming. Rump and his dealings before and after he was elected parallel a mob bosses behavior to the letter. The more he gets away with the more grandeur his next one will be until finally the majority says, "Enough". And that is where we are right now. You gave a definition of what it takes to be an extremists. About how weak one must be to follow in this light. Well, you are fitting that definition to the letter.

Again, the victim of the power of suggestion.

You and your ilk have had this "mob" thing stuck in your heads ever since pencil neck put on his mob act describing Trump's conversation with Zelensky. Had he not done that, you would have never dreamt up these mob scenarios.

In any case, Trump is a businessman that has been audited by the IRS repeatedly. In fact, under an IRS audit while running for President. As for mob bosses, they were mostly outed by their underlings, who were nabbed for lesser crimes. In order to get a reduced sentence, they agreed to testify against them. See the movie Goodfellows when you get a chance. It was based on an actual story.

Now did Trump deal with mob leaders? He probably has, but so has any very successful NY business person.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Yep, and the reason being is because when ever you start making demands on the people in which will be known to not be accepted by them, then this is when the progression of these things begin to take place. This goes for anything the people of this country find inappropriate for them to be forced into.

Correct. Kind of like the Affordable Care Act. WTF is affordable about it? I certainly can't afford it, and millions of others like me.

Oh you could afford it alright, it's just that you didn't realize it when they forced you to pay for others healthcare by making you pay a penalty to the IRS even if you didn't need healthcare insurance yourself. It was the first shot across the bow into turning this country into a socialist country to be run by the Democrats. Hillary losing was shocking to these people for whom had it all laid out in the perfect plan.

Health Care for All is not free. I am already under something like that and I pay for it. All of us under Medicare and Tricare don't get either for free. But, trust me, if it's a life changing and potential house losing situation I am fortunate to have both. The more I make, the higher my premiums are. But they aren't anywhere near like many pay under civilian HMOs or even ACA. There are already millions of us on it and the system is not going broke. So stop this sniveling and do something that actually works.

Millions already ensnared eh ?? Stop the dependency, and do something that actually works.

Medicare is going broke. I'm certain that so is Tricare. I don't know if the later has ever broken even.

You honestly believe that either are supposed to make money? both are considered payback for years of service both in and out of the military. I still pay into Medicare every month whether I use it or not.

Tricare is for Years of Service and Sacrifice. It's one of the biggest reasons that many people stay for at least 20 years of service. Remove that and you think the Military has a shortage of qualified people now.......

 

[edward37]

The man is one cool guy and really honest and smart Not at all like Nunes

Adam Schiff?? The recipe is 1 part Vodka to 4 parts eggnog mix I think you got that backwards Eddie.

What I don't get blues is Dems have the smartest most well informed people in the media and as ambassadors and in our reps in congress ,and repubs have nothing better than to call them non trumpers and liars ?? Can't you see what trump and the few loyal to him are doing to America?? And it ain't good

You said, "Dems have the smartest most well informed people in the media"
Well informed ONLY in Democrat demands that they read from the talking points script provided them, for which they earn paychecks they do not deserve. Compromized Democrat infotainment operatives "smart" to get easy money provided by six Democrat tycoons who get rich quick when Democrats "look the other way" for them and infotainment reporters lie their asses off pretending to be "good guys," but they're not. They take the low road, the big bucks, and are nothing but parrots who do not bother to validate propaganda and lies the Democrats use to get what they can while they can bamboozle and fool the American people. A lot of the American people wised up to the bullshit of Madcow and others and just Walked away from the shriveling Democrats whose multicandidates for President hardly bring a small fraction of the people out that President Trump attracts. That's because the American people have caught on to the infotainment liar's club the Democrat Party has made of the leftist lockstep media liars, who change channels when the lies are exposed.

Has there ever been a greater liar ,one who took the lowest of roads throughout his life than this filthy scum in our WH now ???

 

[beautress]

More commie lies, baby Biden joined the Burisma board in Apr 2014, he was roaming homeless encampments in CA looking for crack in 2015. Learn the language so you can understand.

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Please tell Putin to mind his own business. In 2014, Biden Junior was already a multi millionaire by his own devices.

Bullshit, his wife said he was blowing money so fast they couldn't even pay their bills. It's all in the Politico article. Educate your lying hillbilly ass.

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A lot of unproven stuff in that article. Who really cares what Hunter Biden did? Only you Trumpettes looking to distract from the fact your orange buddy is a crooked piece of shit.

You said, "Who really cares what Hunter Biden did?"
America doesn't go into foreign countries and demand that that country fire a federal judge so their son can get rich quick.

Stop being a dolt anytime at all, preferably before you face St. Peter and have to account for cozying up to such obvious false witnesses as the gross liars with trickle down lies to minions like you who feed on their hatred for an American President who's in there every day, doing his job so that the American people can remain employed and jobs come back to America to make it happen.

It's quite easy for Trump and associates to create all kinds of scenarios of misconduct by Hunter Biden in the Ukraine and create other scenarios linking Joe Biden. However, without an offical investigation in the Ukraine, those scenarios will remain unproven conspiracy theories. The Orange Clown has given his best shot at trying to pressure Ukraine into investigating Biden and has failed so it looks like he's is going to have to get busy on Twitter.

You're certainly confused, sir. President Trump has given millions of people better paying jobs just by encouraging American businesses to come back to America, and manufacture better products here. Of course, not all of you pick up a foreign-made Mr. Coffe carafe and notice the poor engineering job done on producing carafes that drip coffee all over the kitchen floor when transferring coffee from carafe to cup.

American-manufactured Mr. Coffee products didn't make homemakers spill coffee all over the kitchen floor creating a lot of work to clean it up and either being late to work or having to come home to a kitchen that smells like stale coffee and has to be cleaned up before bedtime or have stale coffee smells floating all through the house all night long. I welcome America to bring all its jobs back home so things get made right and don't drive people over the edge with funky-horrid new products with ridiculous designs targeting Americans from afar. American-made products used to be purchased worldwide because they used to be made with pride and the best that the world had to offer.

When you open a box of anything made in China, you don't know what the hell your new set of problems is going to be--clocks sold at discount houses in college communities that don't last through the 4 years it takes to get through college and be on time to classes the whole time. American made clocks used to be made to last a lifetime, and my grandmother inherited a clock from her parents that was handed down to her daughter still working like a champ. The foreign made clocks start losing time after you change the batteries the first time, and the batteries that used to last at least a year now only work for 4 or 5 months, if you're lucky.

I'm sick of having to separate batteries so often and not put them into the main trash heaps that encourage people to bring used up batteries to a recycle place, usually available only in large towns, which could be a hundred miles away from the farm. You can say what you want about farmers, but they are stewards of the land and are more likely than everyone else to separate aluminum from tin cans, wash them, and take them to sell for next to nothing to someone who pays cash for boxes and sacks full of cleaned up cans. They also make sure the batteries are not part of their farm's ecosystem. They're wise people who love the earth, and they work their fingers to the bone to get safe food products to the market.

 

[OKTexas]

Correct, Hunter just answered a want ad in the paper:

LARGE ENERGY COMPANY LOOKING FOR BOARD MEMBER. NO EXPERIENCE NECESSARY, NO NEED TO UNDERSTAND THE LANGUAGE. LOOKING FOR A CANDIDATE WITH SEVERE DRUG PROBLEMS, PREFERABLY KICKED OUT OF THE MILITARY AND ATTENDED MULTIPLE REHAB CLINICS.

You are just unbelievable full of crap.

Drug problems of Hunter was way before he became a board members and work prestigious companies here in US ..... before he joined Burisma.

Like I told you before board member of a company like Gas or Coal, Exxon, Gold..... it’s very very easy. You don’t have to mix chemicals.

More commie lies, baby Biden joined the Burisma board in Apr 2014, he was roaming homeless encampments in CA looking for crack in 2015. Learn the language so you can understand.

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Please tell Putin to mind his own business. In 2014, Biden Junior was already a multi millionaire by his own devices.

Bullshit, his wife said he was blowing money so fast they couldn't even pay their bills. It's all in the Politico article. Educate your lying hillbilly ass.

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You just made an unsubstantiated claim. Now, support it using the same source and then we can look at the Wifes motives. And if you have to keep resorting to insults you may be just spewing crap.

Apologies, it was in the New Yorker article:

On December 9, 2016, Kathleen filed for divorce, and on February 23, 2017, she filed a motion in D.C. Superior Court seeking to freeze Hunter’s assets, alleging that he “created financial concerns for the family by spending extravagantly on his own interests (including drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs, and gifts for women with whom he has sexual relations), while leaving the family with no funds to pay legitimate bills.” The motion was leaked to the New York Post, along with the revelation that Hunter and Hallie were dating.

Will Hunter Biden Jeopardize His Father’s Campaign?

The article tells you everything you need to know about the slime ball, that is baby Biden.

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[Daryl Hunt]

It doesn’t matter what Jordan, Nunes or you said. It doesn’t matter.

What matter is he admitted there is quid pro quo.

You people are bunch of LIARS.

What he said is "he thought" there was a quid pro quo. What he thought does not mean it was ordered by Trump. You can't impeach a President justifiably by what somebody else thought they were doing. The exact words from Trump to Soundland were No Quid Pro Quo's.

Mob Bosses get convicted all the time for Conspiracy to commit murder when they tell their underlings, "Make him go away". That's code for kill them. There are enough code phrases from Rump that show he was directing it from the git go.

Really? You in the mob to know that? And what cases are on file of a mob boss saying "make him go away" and convicted of a murder that never happened?

Even if your made-up story were true, in comparison to this situation, that would be like saying the authorities made up the definition of the phrase, not the mob, but was convicted on murder for defining the phrase.

You really need to go back and learn some history. It's almost impossible to convict a mob boss under that condition. So they go after peripheral things like taxes, extortion, and more and convict them of those. Ever wonder why they are going after Rump for a lot of things? Like a mob boss, he has done a lot of things that were and are wrong. The list is alarming. Rump and his dealings before and after he was elected parallel a mob bosses behavior to the letter. The more he gets away with the more grandeur his next one will be until finally the majority says, "Enough". And that is where we are right now. You gave a definition of what it takes to be an extremists. About how weak one must be to follow in this light. Well, you are fitting that definition to the letter.

Again, the victim of the power of suggestion.

You and your ilk have had this "mob" thing stuck in your heads ever since pencil neck put on his mob act describing Trump's conversation with Zelensky. Had he not done that, you would have never dreamt up these mob scenarios.

In any case, Trump is a businessman that has been audited by the IRS repeatedly. In fact, under an IRS audit while running for President. As for mob bosses, they were mostly outed by their underlings, who were nabbed for lesser crimes. In order to get a reduced sentence, they agreed to testify against them. See the movie Goodfellows when you get a chance. It was based on an actual story.

Now did Trump deal with mob leaders? He probably has, but so has any very successful NY business person.

Rump IS a mob leader. You seem to think that a Mob Leader must be Italian. Well, kiddo, there are Vietnamese ,, Korean, Columbian, Mexican, Chinese and more that are also Mob Leaders. In Rumps case, he's a mutt but that hasn't kept him from being his own Mob Boss with his own Mob Family.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Your photo cartoon is a lie. There was no collusion of Trump with Russia, and there won't be most likely unless the entire world is enslaved by a superior race from outer space. I disbelieve such a thing.

You have to understand, that in order to be a true leftist, you have to have a weak mind that can be molded like play doh. The puppet masters created this myth, and in spite of the evidence Trump had nothing to do with Russian interference, the puppet masters keep pulling the strings.

The power of suggestion only works if you keep the suggestion alive in their heads, that way they have no understanding they are a target.

As per being a true Party of Rumper. I agree that an extemist left winger would fit that description but the numbers would be quite small. There is a reason that Bernie can never win a Presidential election and that Warren has had to change her positions of late because she has pretty well fallen off the edge of the earth. The majority of the "Left" don't fit your categorization though.

Much like the majority of the right don't fit the "POT" definition either. What makes both extremes work is the spreading of Hate and misinformation. And Putins bunch is helping out both sides. Mostly, they are helping out the Rumpsters in information, memes, etc.. You are showing that the Meddling that was found at such a prolific level by the Russians is probably even worse today than it was starting in 2014. The bills to go after this meddling is sitting on Moscow Mitch's desk on hold and won't see the light of day until Rump and Moscow Mitch are gone. Putin doesn't want it therefore Rump doesn't want it therefore Moscow Mitch must block it. And it's feeding BOTH sides in hate and misinformation. And I keep seeing you repeating some of that misinformation on more than just a daily basis. Does that definition fit you as well?

Actually, you were one of the people I was talking about. Need evidence?

Go through your last 20 posts in this topic, and count for me the number of times you didn't mention Russia or Putin.

Should you accept the challenge, you will then see what I was explaining about the power of suggestion. You are a victim of their strategy.

I can name numerous post by you where you have repeated GRU generated hate information. Maybe it's about time we started to really start discussing cleaning things up. Notice I don't repeat the Left GRU provided information. Oh, I could but it's so outlandish that it's beyond belief. If you want to stop using the GRU influenced information just how much would you really have to say? Not much, I would imagine. But, like I said, and many others like Mueller, the NSA, the CIA and more, the Russian influence is even worse today than it was in 2014. So, before you go off on some outlandish claim, think. How sane does this sound, could this be a GRU originated piece, and did you do a good enough background check with reliable sources to back it up. So far, the answer has been no. You just seize on it and let it spout.

There is no challenge here. If you continue with regurgitating GRU supported information then you have become not only UnAmerican but should just move to Moscow and apply for citizenship there if you aren't there already.

Your response might make sense if I knew WTF a GRU was. What's wrong, is typing too hard for you or something?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

What he said is "he thought" there was a quid pro quo. What he thought does not mean it was ordered by Trump. You can't impeach a President justifiably by what somebody else thought they were doing. The exact words from Trump to Soundland were No Quid Pro Quo's.

Mob Bosses get convicted all the time for Conspiracy to commit murder when they tell their underlings, "Make him go away". That's code for kill them. There are enough code phrases from Rump that show he was directing it from the git go.

Really? You in the mob to know that? And what cases are on file of a mob boss saying "make him go away" and convicted of a murder that never happened?

Even if your made-up story were true, in comparison to this situation, that would be like saying the authorities made up the definition of the phrase, not the mob, but was convicted on murder for defining the phrase.

You really need to go back and learn some history. It's almost impossible to convict a mob boss under that condition. So they go after peripheral things like taxes, extortion, and more and convict them of those. Ever wonder why they are going after Rump for a lot of things? Like a mob boss, he has done a lot of things that were and are wrong. The list is alarming. Rump and his dealings before and after he was elected parallel a mob bosses behavior to the letter. The more he gets away with the more grandeur his next one will be until finally the majority says, "Enough". And that is where we are right now. You gave a definition of what it takes to be an extremists. About how weak one must be to follow in this light. Well, you are fitting that definition to the letter.

Again, the victim of the power of suggestion.

You and your ilk have had this "mob" thing stuck in your heads ever since pencil neck put on his mob act describing Trump's conversation with Zelensky. Had he not done that, you would have never dreamt up these mob scenarios.

In any case, Trump is a businessman that has been audited by the IRS repeatedly. In fact, under an IRS audit while running for President. As for mob bosses, they were mostly outed by their underlings, who were nabbed for lesser crimes. In order to get a reduced sentence, they agreed to testify against them. See the movie Goodfellows when you get a chance. It was based on an actual story.

Now did Trump deal with mob leaders? He probably has, but so has any very successful NY business person.

Rump IS a mob leader. You seem to think that a Mob Leader must be Italian. Well, kiddo, there are Vietnamese ,, Korean, Columbian, Mexican, Chinese and more that are also Mob Leaders. In Rumps case, he's a mutt but that hasn't kept him from being his own Mob Boss with his own Mob Family.

I see, so the leader of a family is a mob boss now? I guess my father was a mob boss.

 

[OKTexas]

Trump came under heavy criticism of holding aid, even by Lindsey Graham. He was getting it from both sides. So he released the money. Schiff Head never even gave it a thought. He never brought it up out of all the witnesses he hauled into that inquiry.

Bottom line: Trump had good reason to hold the money, and he had good reason to release it, all without the concern he had for the Biden's. So to try and make the case that it was only because of the Biden's would never hold up in a court of law. It's called circumstantial evidence.

I don't know if the administration has manufactured a reason after the fact of why the funds were held but reported emails from the chief of staff certainly show they were looking for a sound reason. There seems no doubt as too why the funds were released on Sept 2, two days before the House announced they were starting an investigation.

The funds were released on September 11th.

I stand corrected. On Sept 10, meetings were scheduled in the House which would become the beginning of the investigation. On Sept 12, Ukraine was notified the freeze was lifted and Pelosi formally announced the investigation on Sept 24th.

Fact Sheet: DOD Certified that Ukraine Met Corruption Benchmarks | United States Senate Committee on Foreign Relations

Okay, we have that straightened out. But don't you think that our government agencies have checked things out before other Presidents have held money back? Because let's be honest here, it's not like Trump is the first one, it's the reason why he did it that's in debate. And Democrats are making assumptions instead of presenting facts.

When Trump asked Zelensky to investigate and mentioned the Bidens, that's not an assumption but fact. Nor is there any assumption that Sondland, a lifelong republican who contributed a million dollars to the Trump campaign, who spoke with the president over 20 times, stated that there was no doubt that there was a quid pro quote between Trump and Zelensky. There was certainly no assumption that Trump froze military aid and would not meet with Zelensky. There is plenty of hearsay evidence, some of it confirmed and some not as well as a lot of circumstantial evidence.

With a federal judge now requiring the president's lawyer to testify, many documents subpoenaed by the House may soon be released. If that happens, many of the assumptions and hearsay will become direct evidence. The question is whether the House will wait for that to happen.

Sondland said he presumed there was a quid pro quo, that's not evidence. You can presume anything, doesn't make it fact. BTW Sondland didn't give a million to the campaign, he bought a VIP ticket to the inauguration. Also the judges decision was related to a judiciary subpoena and has nothing to do with the impeachment hoax.

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[toomuchtime_]

More commie lies, baby Biden joined the Burisma board in Apr 2014, he was roaming homeless encampments in CA looking for crack in 2015. Learn the language so you can understand.

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Please tell Putin to mind his own business. In 2014, Biden Junior was already a multi millionaire by his own devices.

Bullshit, his wife said he was blowing money so fast they couldn't even pay their bills. It's all in the Politico article. Educate your lying hillbilly ass.

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A lot of unproven stuff in that article. Who really cares what Hunter Biden did? Only you Trumpettes looking to distract from the fact your orange buddy is a crooked piece of shit.

You said, "Who really cares what Hunter Biden did?"
America doesn't go into foreign countries and demand that that country fire a federal judge so their son can get rich quick.

Stop being a dolt anytime at all, preferably before you face St. Peter and have to account for cozying up to such obvious false witnesses as the gross liars with trickle down lies to minions like you who feed on their hatred for an American President who's in there every day, doing his job so that the American people can remain employed and jobs come back to America to make it happen.

It's quite easy for Trump and associates to create all kinds of scenarios of misconduct by Hunter Biden in the Ukraine and create other scenarios linking Joe Biden. However, without an offical investigation in the Ukraine, those scenarios will remain unproven conspiracy theories. The Orange Clown has given his best shot at trying to pressure Ukraine into investigating Biden and has failed so it looks like he's is going to have to get busy on Twitter.

The DoJ is conducting the investigation of the Bidens' actions in Ukraine on the eve of the 2016 election season and is demanding that Ukraine cooperate with the US investigation, and it will. This is now a criminal investigation and the FBI has already indicated it will interview Hunter Biden among others so you might want to put your celebration on hold.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

You are just unbelievable full of crap.

Drug problems of Hunter was way before he became a board members and work prestigious companies here in US ..... before he joined Burisma.

Like I told you before board member of a company like Gas or Coal, Exxon, Gold..... it’s very very easy. You don’t have to mix chemicals.

More commie lies, baby Biden joined the Burisma board in Apr 2014, he was roaming homeless encampments in CA looking for crack in 2015. Learn the language so you can understand.

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Please tell Putin to mind his own business. In 2014, Biden Junior was already a multi millionaire by his own devices.

Bullshit, his wife said he was blowing money so fast they couldn't even pay their bills. It's all in the Politico article. Educate your lying hillbilly ass.

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You just made an unsubstantiated claim. Now, support it using the same source and then we can look at the Wifes motives. And if you have to keep resorting to insults you may be just spewing crap.

Apologies, it was in the New Yorker article:

On December 9, 2016, Kathleen filed for divorce, and on February 23, 2017, she filed a motion in D.C. Superior Court seeking to freeze Hunter’s assets, alleging that he “created financial concerns for the family by spending extravagantly on his own interests (including drugs, alcohol, prostitutes, strip clubs, and gifts for women with whom he has sexual relations), while leaving the family with no funds to pay legitimate bills.” The motion was leaked to the New York Post, along with the revelation that Hunter and Hallie were dating.

Will Hunter Biden Jeopardize His Father’s Campaign?

The article tells you everything you need to know about the slime ball, that is baby Biden.

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Time to put this one to bed. Even seen a restraining order put out by a wife? Ever been through a divorce? I have. I lost everything that I had worked for decades to obtain even before the marraige. I watched he lie, cheat and steal and I had no recourse. I had no rights. You took the part where the Wife was using this type of behavior to slam a soon to be ex husband. This all about money, nothing else. The Biden Family did not support these views. Even while this was going on, Hunter offered a settlement to end it all of over 38,000 a month for alimoney and child support for the next 10 years that would have left him with about 4000 dollars to live on. But at the same time, he was still working on at least one multimillion dollar deal using a Diamond. The Wife wanted that diamond in no certain terms. But it was already consumed in the business deal.

What this shows is a greedy little witch going for as much as she can get and more and willing to use anything to get it including trying to destroy or harm Joe Biden's chances. There is a bad guy here and it wears a skirt and sits to pee.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Please tell Putin to mind his own business. In 2014, Biden Junior was already a multi millionaire by his own devices.

Bullshit, his wife said he was blowing money so fast they couldn't even pay their bills. It's all in the Politico article. Educate your lying hillbilly ass.

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A lot of unproven stuff in that article. Who really cares what Hunter Biden did? Only you Trumpettes looking to distract from the fact your orange buddy is a crooked piece of shit.

You said, "Who really cares what Hunter Biden did?"
America doesn't go into foreign countries and demand that that country fire a federal judge so their son can get rich quick.

Stop being a dolt anytime at all, preferably before you face St. Peter and have to account for cozying up to such obvious false witnesses as the gross liars with trickle down lies to minions like you who feed on their hatred for an American President who's in there every day, doing his job so that the American people can remain employed and jobs come back to America to make it happen.

It's quite easy for Trump and associates to create all kinds of scenarios of misconduct by Hunter Biden in the Ukraine and create other scenarios linking Joe Biden. However, without an offical investigation in the Ukraine, those scenarios will remain unproven conspiracy theories. The Orange Clown has given his best shot at trying to pressure Ukraine into investigating Biden and has failed so it looks like he's is going to have to get busy on Twitter.

The DoJ is conducting the investigation of the Bidens' actions in Ukraine on the eve of the 2016 election season and is demanding that Ukraine cooperate with the US investigation, and it will. This is now a criminal investigation and the FBI has already indicated it will interview Hunter Biden among others so you might want to put your celebration on hold.

And that investigation was called off due to the lack of evidence. And that is the rest of the story.

 

[beautress]

The man is one cool guy and really honest and smart Not at all like Nunes

Adam Schiff?? The recipe is 1 part Vodka to 4 parts eggnog mix I think you got that backwards Eddie.

What I don't get blues is Dems have the smartest most well informed people in the media and as ambassadors and in our reps in congress ,and repubs have nothing better than to call them non trumpers and liars ?? Can't you see what trump and the few loyal to him are doing to America?? And it ain't good

You said, "Dems have the smartest most well informed people in the media"
Well informed ONLY in Democrat demands that they read from the talking points script provided them, for which they earn paychecks they do not deserve. Compromized Democrat infotainment operatives "smart" to get easy money provided by six Democrat tycoons who get rich quick when Democrats "look the other way" for them and infotainment reporters lie their asses off pretending to be "good guys," but they're not. They take the low road, the big bucks, and are nothing but parrots who do not bother to validate propaganda and lies the Democrats use to get what they can while they can bamboozle and fool the American people. A lot of the American people wised up to the bullshit of Madcow and others and just Walked away from the shriveling Democrats whose multicandidates for President hardly bring a small fraction of the people out that President Trump attracts. That's because the American people have caught on to the infotainment liar's club the Democrat Party has made of the leftist lockstep media liars, who change channels when the lies are exposed.

Has there ever been a greater liar ,one who took the lowest of roads throughout his life than this filthy scum in our WH now ???

President Trump just made a liar out of you Demonrats who project their trashy lies onto Republicans at every turn, and we don't believe your party's intensely planned false narratives, one of which is to accuse children of the light of doing Democrat garbage, which is apparently all you know about this planet gauging from the transfer of responsibility for your grossly engineered narratives woven into the tangled web your party has become.

Because Trump was a successful businessman, he has earned the trust of many people, and he didn't get that way by being a habitual liar. He got that way by telling the truth, and yes, he's made some mistakes, but instead of running away and hiding from what he did, he faces and owns the error, does all that he can do to make reparations, and then, having learned from the mistake, does his best to never make that mistake again. And he compensates those hurt by the mistake as best he can. No human being on this planet is perfect, but those who schemed to impeach him do not have a very bright future due to the damage they've done to this country, and they will run rather than compensate those they hurt by their intentional mistakes that they will not own until they are placed behind bars and get to thinking it over for a few years until they realize they took the wrong path long ago.

There is more to life than trying to destroy a President, particularly one who has given his all to making Americans avoid poverty by being able to land a job that will give them a shot at having the American dream if they work hard and stick with it.

I'm not buying your party's false narratives and propaganda that you have jumped on and increased.

 

[toomuchtime_]

Bullshit, his wife said he was blowing money so fast they couldn't even pay their bills. It's all in the Politico article. Educate your lying hillbilly ass.

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A lot of unproven stuff in that article. Who really cares what Hunter Biden did? Only you Trumpettes looking to distract from the fact your orange buddy is a crooked piece of shit.

You said, "Who really cares what Hunter Biden did?"
America doesn't go into foreign countries and demand that that country fire a federal judge so their son can get rich quick.

Stop being a dolt anytime at all, preferably before you face St. Peter and have to account for cozying up to such obvious false witnesses as the gross liars with trickle down lies to minions like you who feed on their hatred for an American President who's in there every day, doing his job so that the American people can remain employed and jobs come back to America to make it happen.

It's quite easy for Trump and associates to create all kinds of scenarios of misconduct by Hunter Biden in the Ukraine and create other scenarios linking Joe Biden. However, without an offical investigation in the Ukraine, those scenarios will remain unproven conspiracy theories. The Orange Clown has given his best shot at trying to pressure Ukraine into investigating Biden and has failed so it looks like he's is going to have to get busy on Twitter.

The DoJ is conducting the investigation of the Bidens' actions in Ukraine on the eve of the 2016 election season and is demanding that Ukraine cooperate with the US investigation, and it will. This is now a criminal investigation and the FBI has already indicated it will interview Hunter Biden among others so you might want to put your celebration on hold.

And that investigation was called off due to the lack of evidence. And that is the rest of the story.

lol What planet are you posting from. It is ongoing.

 

[Daryl Hunt]

Correct. Kind of like the Affordable Care Act. WTF is affordable about it? I certainly can't afford it, and millions of others like me.

Oh you could afford it alright, it's just that you didn't realize it when they forced you to pay for others healthcare by making you pay a penalty to the IRS even if you didn't need healthcare insurance yourself. It was the first shot across the bow into turning this country into a socialist country to be run by the Democrats. Hillary losing was shocking to these people for whom had it all laid out in the perfect plan.

Health Care for All is not free. I am already under something like that and I pay for it. All of us under Medicare and Tricare don't get either for free. But, trust me, if it's a life changing and potential house losing situation I am fortunate to have both. The more I make, the higher my premiums are. But they aren't anywhere near like many pay under civilian HMOs or even ACA. There are already millions of us on it and the system is not going broke. So stop this sniveling and do something that actually works.

Millions already ensnared eh ?? Stop the dependency, and do something that actually works.

Medicare is going broke. I'm certain that so is Tricare. I don't know if the later has ever broken even.

That's why we must keep a strong economy going or all hell is going to break loose in all our safety net programs for the elderly and for the poor.

What, and give up the idea of having voluntary Extermination Stations for the Old, Sick and Poor?