Occupy L.A. Leaves 30 Tons Of Trash Behind...

I don't see how this has to be an embarrassment for the Left. Just because the OWS is full of assholes, it doesn't mean what the ideas they are protesting are no longer legitimate.

People are people. If the Tea Party movement had gotten this large, I guarantee you we'd be facing the same issues. Hell, either that, or they'd be firing automatic weapons into the sky.

actually the T party was this large, but they didn't squat in public and private space and get a pass, did they? why is that? why did they pay for permits yet is seems every municipality falls all over itself to make its public and in some cases private domain which should be outside their purview btw, available and in basically sacrosanct?

easy, they took sides.

didn't they?

check a pic of the mall after Becks rally , now take a pic of the same place after an OWS or lefty rally....*shrugs* the differences are plain, easily.

Um, no the Tea Party movement wasn't nearly this big. Not even close. At it's peak, the OWS had 1600 protests world-wide.

You do realize that most of the people who made up TP movement were senior citizens, right?

I don't care about the 'world', the T party PROTESTS I saw were made up of a cross section, yes seniors 60-70 % and? so what?
 
Seriously,this is has to be an embarassment for the Left. I just don't see how it couldn't be.


The sheer volume of personal belongings left behind after the early morning Los Angeles Police Department raid has astonished city workers: books and CDs, luggage and boom boxes, mattresses and dining chairs, cellphones, electric razors, a small red guitar with its neck snapped –- all surrounded by dozens of collapsed and empty tents.

A steady flow of people stopped by the park Wednesday to take photos and video and watch workers in white hazmat suits rake trash into neat piles.
As workers broke down tents and placed them in trash cans, Ramir Delgado, 25, snapped photos out of curiosity.

"It's a shame how I see all trash around here," he said. He pointed to his head. "People don't understand that the freedom starts here in your mind."

Delgado said he was disappointed in Occupy L.A.

"You know why this is filthy and not clean is there isn't leadership," he said.

A few feet away, crews in the hazmat suits raked trash of discarded protest signs, nail polish and jars of peanut butter.

"This looks like pure anarchy," Delgado said, adding, “in a Hollywood way.”

Donna Spurgeon, who snapped pictures on her phone, said she was surprised by the mural in the center of the south lawn.

“How did that get built” she asked of the structure that city officials built around an historic fountain, a structure protesters turned into an art piece.

“If you’re here to protest, don’t deface public property,” Spurgeon said.

She said the aftermath looked like a “little war zone, a little ghetto.”

Occupy L.A.: 30 tons of debris left behind at City Hall tent city - latimes.com
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

So you know, a majority of that "trash" was what the police ripped apart and threw everywhere while they were searching tents. When they were arresting people. Remember that bit?

The 30 tons is a number arrived at by including whatever the police threw around the site.

You neglected to mention that little bit of information.
 
I am comparing one act of filthy, unsanitary, uncivilized behavior to another.

I just want to know how the protesters were supposed to clean up the park when they were all locked in jail.

Please explain that.

they are all locked up in jail?

links please.

Here you go.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=745MIauRCg4&feature=related]L.A. finally evicts the Occupy Camp there - YouTube[/ame]
 
You don't see how being unable to express your ideas without being a filthy, squalid burden on society is and should be an embarrassment? Really, Sparky?

Picture this: the President is making a speech, say on foreign policy. Right in the middle of it, he casually shits his pants, and goes right on talking. Should he be embarrassed by his shockingly filthy, unsanitary behavior, or should everyone else just blow it off because "his ideas were good"?

You are comparing one man to a widespread movement. I mean you do realize that not everyone in the OWS movement has been destructive, right? In fact, the movement was intended to be peaceful when it was first created. Unfortunately, because of INDIVIDUALS, the movement has gotten ugly.

Because it was intended to be a peaceful rally, why should I abandon my viewpoint on their message?

I am comparing one act of filthy, unsanitary, uncivilized behavior to another. Do you honestly think it makes some sort of qualitative difference if it's one human being behaving like a savage or a whole crowd? Quantitative, sure, but behavior of which one should be ashamed either way.

I don't CARE if "not everyone was destructive". Those who were - and there had to have been a lot of them, to create that much wreckage - should feel ashamed for being so uncivilized and nasty. Those who were not should feel ashamed for having enabled those who were and being associated with them.

Furthermore, I also don't care about "intentions". Leftists blather on about their good intentions like we're supposed to hand out trophies just for WANTING to be a good person, whether you accomplish anything or not. Didn't your mother ever tell you which road is paved with good intentions? The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the proof of the movement is in the results.

What kind of shitforbrains actually thinks you're going to have a "protest" that involves creating tent cities for months on end in a park and NOT wind up attracting and encouraging people who would be more at home in a third-world tribe that shits in its own drinking water and lets their farm animals bathe in it?

Who said anything about what you should think about their message? I think you should pull your head out of your ass and at least figure out that you don't do your message any good by convincing people it's originating with a bunch of savages. Most people in a civilized society run away from those whose stench makes our eyes water, rather than asking their advice on how to run the country.

Who the hell is asking for trophies? Your mental shortcut take on this issue is just laughable.

You really don't get it, do you? That is just how people are. The bigger the movement gets, the more assholes it is going to attract. At its peak, the OWS had 1600 protests WORLDWIDE. What you also don't understand is that the OWS movement does not have any leadership. Therefore, there is no one to keep the order besides the local police.
 
Seriously,this is has to be an embarassment for the Left. I just don't see how it couldn't be.


The sheer volume of personal belongings left behind after the early morning Los Angeles Police Department raid has astonished city workers: books and CDs, luggage and boom boxes, mattresses and dining chairs, cellphones, electric razors, a small red guitar with its neck snapped –- all surrounded by dozens of collapsed and empty tents.

A steady flow of people stopped by the park Wednesday to take photos and video and watch workers in white hazmat suits rake trash into neat piles.
As workers broke down tents and placed them in trash cans, Ramir Delgado, 25, snapped photos out of curiosity.

"It's a shame how I see all trash around here," he said. He pointed to his head. "People don't understand that the freedom starts here in your mind."

Delgado said he was disappointed in Occupy L.A.

"You know why this is filthy and not clean is there isn't leadership," he said.

A few feet away, crews in the hazmat suits raked trash of discarded protest signs, nail polish and jars of peanut butter.

"This looks like pure anarchy," Delgado said, adding, “in a Hollywood way.”

Donna Spurgeon, who snapped pictures on her phone, said she was surprised by the mural in the center of the south lawn.

“How did that get built” she asked of the structure that city officials built around an historic fountain, a structure protesters turned into an art piece.

“If you’re here to protest, don’t deface public property,” Spurgeon said.

She said the aftermath looked like a “little war zone, a little ghetto.”

Occupy L.A.: 30 tons of debris left behind at City Hall tent city - latimes.com
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

So you know, a majority of that "trash" was what the police ripped apart and threw everywhere while they were searching tents. When they were arresting people. Remember that bit?

The 30 tons is a number arrived at by including whatever the police threw around the site.

You neglected to mention that little bit of information.

lets do this another way, can you show me or point to a scene of OWS squatting that didn't wind up being a hovel?

and when they were told that they would have to go?
 
You are comparing one man to a widespread movement. I mean you do realize that not everyone in the OWS movement has been destructive, right? In fact, the movement was intended to be peaceful when it was first created. Unfortunately, because of INDIVIDUALS, the movement has gotten ugly.

Because it was intended to be a peaceful rally, why should I abandon my viewpoint on their message?

I am comparing one act of filthy, unsanitary, uncivilized behavior to another. Do you honestly think it makes some sort of qualitative difference if it's one human being behaving like a savage or a whole crowd? Quantitative, sure, but behavior of which one should be ashamed either way.

I don't CARE if "not everyone was destructive". Those who were - and there had to have been a lot of them, to create that much wreckage - should feel ashamed for being so uncivilized and nasty. Those who were not should feel ashamed for having enabled those who were and being associated with them.

Furthermore, I also don't care about "intentions". Leftists blather on about their good intentions like we're supposed to hand out trophies just for WANTING to be a good person, whether you accomplish anything or not. Didn't your mother ever tell you which road is paved with good intentions? The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the proof of the movement is in the results.

What kind of shitforbrains actually thinks you're going to have a "protest" that involves creating tent cities for months on end in a park and NOT wind up attracting and encouraging people who would be more at home in a third-world tribe that shits in its own drinking water and lets their farm animals bathe in it?

Who said anything about what you should think about their message? I think you should pull your head out of your ass and at least figure out that you don't do your message any good by convincing people it's originating with a bunch of savages. Most people in a civilized society run away from those whose stench makes our eyes water, rather than asking their advice on how to run the country.

Who the hell is asking for trophies? Your mental shortcut take on this issue is just laughable.

You really don't get it, do you? That is just how people are. The bigger the movement gets, the more assholes it is going to attract. At its peak, the OWS had 1600 protests WORLDWIDE. What you also don't understand is that the OWS movement does not have any leadership. Therefore, there is no one to keep the order besides the local police.

Excuses are mental shortcuts.
 
Seriously,this is has to be an embarassment for the Left. I just don't see how it couldn't be.


The sheer volume of personal belongings left behind after the early morning Los Angeles Police Department raid has astonished city workers: books and CDs, luggage and boom boxes, mattresses and dining chairs, cellphones, electric razors, a small red guitar with its neck snapped –- all surrounded by dozens of collapsed and empty tents.

A steady flow of people stopped by the park Wednesday to take photos and video and watch workers in white hazmat suits rake trash into neat piles.
As workers broke down tents and placed them in trash cans, Ramir Delgado, 25, snapped photos out of curiosity.

"It's a shame how I see all trash around here," he said. He pointed to his head. "People don't understand that the freedom starts here in your mind."

Delgado said he was disappointed in Occupy L.A.

"You know why this is filthy and not clean is there isn't leadership," he said.

A few feet away, crews in the hazmat suits raked trash of discarded protest signs, nail polish and jars of peanut butter.

"This looks like pure anarchy," Delgado said, adding, “in a Hollywood way.”

Donna Spurgeon, who snapped pictures on her phone, said she was surprised by the mural in the center of the south lawn.

“How did that get built” she asked of the structure that city officials built around an historic fountain, a structure protesters turned into an art piece.

“If you’re here to protest, don’t deface public property,” Spurgeon said.

She said the aftermath looked like a “little war zone, a little ghetto.”

Occupy L.A.: 30 tons of debris left behind at City Hall tent city - latimes.com
DRUDGE REPORT 2012®

So you know, a majority of that "trash" was what the police ripped apart and threw everywhere while they were searching tents. When they were arresting people. Remember that bit?

The 30 tons is a number arrived at by including whatever the police threw around the site.

You neglected to mention that little bit of information.

lets do this another way, can you show me or point to a scene of OWS squatting that didn't wind up being a hovel?

and when they were told that they would have to go?

What I see:

They stood up for something, they stuck to their principles. Then, when they were forced by our excessively violent and patented hatred of left wingers police force to leave the police (by detaining them for up to 8 hours within access to basic human necessities) ripped up everything in the tents and threw them outside, stuff that would normally have been taken with them.
 
I am comparing one act of filthy, unsanitary, uncivilized behavior to another. Do you honestly think it makes some sort of qualitative difference if it's one human being behaving like a savage or a whole crowd? Quantitative, sure, but behavior of which one should be ashamed either way.

I don't CARE if "not everyone was destructive". Those who were - and there had to have been a lot of them, to create that much wreckage - should feel ashamed for being so uncivilized and nasty. Those who were not should feel ashamed for having enabled those who were and being associated with them.

Furthermore, I also don't care about "intentions". Leftists blather on about their good intentions like we're supposed to hand out trophies just for WANTING to be a good person, whether you accomplish anything or not. Didn't your mother ever tell you which road is paved with good intentions? The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the proof of the movement is in the results.

What kind of shitforbrains actually thinks you're going to have a "protest" that involves creating tent cities for months on end in a park and NOT wind up attracting and encouraging people who would be more at home in a third-world tribe that shits in its own drinking water and lets their farm animals bathe in it?

Who said anything about what you should think about their message? I think you should pull your head out of your ass and at least figure out that you don't do your message any good by convincing people it's originating with a bunch of savages. Most people in a civilized society run away from those whose stench makes our eyes water, rather than asking their advice on how to run the country.

Who the hell is asking for trophies? Your mental shortcut take on this issue is just laughable.

You really don't get it, do you? That is just how people are. The bigger the movement gets, the more assholes it is going to attract. At its peak, the OWS had 1600 protests WORLDWIDE. What you also don't understand is that the OWS movement does not have any leadership. Therefore, there is no one to keep the order besides the local police.

Excuses are mental shortcuts.

And making excuses for a bunch of filthy pigs living in their own piles of shit is pathetic.
 
Who the hell is asking for trophies? Your mental shortcut take on this issue is just laughable.

You really don't get it, do you? That is just how people are. The bigger the movement gets, the more assholes it is going to attract. At its peak, the OWS had 1600 protests WORLDWIDE. What you also don't understand is that the OWS movement does not have any leadership. Therefore, there is no one to keep the order besides the local police.

Excuses are mental shortcuts.

And making excuses for a bunch of filthy pigs living in their own piles of shit is pathetic.

Your views on your fellow American people fucking disgusts me.
 
So you know, a majority of that "trash" was what the police ripped apart and threw everywhere while they were searching tents. When they were arresting people. Remember that bit?

The 30 tons is a number arrived at by including whatever the police threw around the site.

You neglected to mention that little bit of information.

lets do this another way, can you show me or point to a scene of OWS squatting that didn't wind up being a hovel?

and when they were told that they would have to go?

What I see:

They stood up for something, they stuck to their principles. Then, when they were forced by our excessively violent and patented hatred of left wingers police force to leave the police (by detaining them for up to 8 hours within access to basic human necessities) ripped up everything in the tents and threw them outside, stuff that would normally have been taken with them.

What I see a bunch of pathetic anarchists, socialists and homeless people with no sense of pride or morals living illegally on public land and in parks shitting and pissing all over and leaving massive piles of trash and destruction behind, all for the TAX PAYERS to have to foot the bill to clean up. They're no better than the piles of garbage they left behind.
 
I am comparing one act of filthy, unsanitary, uncivilized behavior to another.

I just want to know how the protesters were supposed to clean up the park when they were all locked in jail.

Please explain that.

they did ALL go to jail... an what was the excuse everywhere else they meet in mass?

Chickenshit excuse.

They could have cleaned up after themselves and gone home when told to, eliminating any need for them to be in jail at all.
 
I am comparing one act of filthy, unsanitary, uncivilized behavior to another. Do you honestly think it makes some sort of qualitative difference if it's one human being behaving like a savage or a whole crowd? Quantitative, sure, but behavior of which one should be ashamed either way.

I don't CARE if "not everyone was destructive". Those who were - and there had to have been a lot of them, to create that much wreckage - should feel ashamed for being so uncivilized and nasty. Those who were not should feel ashamed for having enabled those who were and being associated with them.

Furthermore, I also don't care about "intentions". Leftists blather on about their good intentions like we're supposed to hand out trophies just for WANTING to be a good person, whether you accomplish anything or not. Didn't your mother ever tell you which road is paved with good intentions? The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the proof of the movement is in the results.

What kind of shitforbrains actually thinks you're going to have a "protest" that involves creating tent cities for months on end in a park and NOT wind up attracting and encouraging people who would be more at home in a third-world tribe that shits in its own drinking water and lets their farm animals bathe in it?

Who said anything about what you should think about their message? I think you should pull your head out of your ass and at least figure out that you don't do your message any good by convincing people it's originating with a bunch of savages. Most people in a civilized society run away from those whose stench makes our eyes water, rather than asking their advice on how to run the country.

Who the hell is asking for trophies? Your mental shortcut take on this issue is just laughable.

You really don't get it, do you? That is just how people are. The bigger the movement gets, the more assholes it is going to attract. At its peak, the OWS had 1600 protests WORLDWIDE. What you also don't understand is that the OWS movement does not have any leadership. Therefore, there is no one to keep the order besides the local police.

Excuses are mental shortcuts.

And sweeping generalizations are not?
 
And making excuses for a bunch of filthy pigs living in their own piles of shit is pathetic.

Your views on your fellow American people fucking disgusts me.

They're not my fellow American people you ignorant piece of shit. My fellow Americans don't do shit like that. They're YOUR fellow Americans, the GARBAGE of society.

Now go fuck yourself.

How the fuck can you call yourself an American?
 
You are comparing one man to a widespread movement. I mean you do realize that not everyone in the OWS movement has been destructive, right? In fact, the movement was intended to be peaceful when it was first created. Unfortunately, because of INDIVIDUALS, the movement has gotten ugly.

Because it was intended to be a peaceful rally, why should I abandon my viewpoint on their message?

I am comparing one act of filthy, unsanitary, uncivilized behavior to another. Do you honestly think it makes some sort of qualitative difference if it's one human being behaving like a savage or a whole crowd? Quantitative, sure, but behavior of which one should be ashamed either way.

I don't CARE if "not everyone was destructive". Those who were - and there had to have been a lot of them, to create that much wreckage - should feel ashamed for being so uncivilized and nasty. Those who were not should feel ashamed for having enabled those who were and being associated with them.

Furthermore, I also don't care about "intentions". Leftists blather on about their good intentions like we're supposed to hand out trophies just for WANTING to be a good person, whether you accomplish anything or not. Didn't your mother ever tell you which road is paved with good intentions? The proof of the pudding is in the eating, and the proof of the movement is in the results.

What kind of shitforbrains actually thinks you're going to have a "protest" that involves creating tent cities for months on end in a park and NOT wind up attracting and encouraging people who would be more at home in a third-world tribe that shits in its own drinking water and lets their farm animals bathe in it?

Who said anything about what you should think about their message? I think you should pull your head out of your ass and at least figure out that you don't do your message any good by convincing people it's originating with a bunch of savages. Most people in a civilized society run away from those whose stench makes our eyes water, rather than asking their advice on how to run the country.

Who the hell is asking for trophies? Your mental shortcut take on this issue is just laughable.

You really don't get it, do you? That is just how people are. The bigger the movement gets, the more assholes it is going to attract. At its peak, the OWS had 1600 protests WORLDWIDE. What you also don't understand is that the OWS movement does not have any leadership. Therefore, there is no one to keep the order besides the local police.

so why was the TP different?

and exactly who or what are you making excuses for and why?
 

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