Obamacare Explained to a 5 y/o (or thereabouts)

[WillowTree]

McDonald's got a waiver na na na na naaaaa.. all 57 states want one too.

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I don't want to go through the whole thing and explain to the hypothetical 5yo why a random poster on reddit is not an authority on the PPACA so I will just take the generic drug approval thing as it is something I have actually kept an eye on.

It allows the Food and Drug Administration to approve more generic drugs (making for more competition in the market to drive down prices) ( Citation: An entire section of the bill, called Title VII, is devoted to this, starting on page 747 )

Put simply, this is BS. The law might way that, but what is actually happening is different. The simple fact is that the FDA is still writing the regulations that will implement this section of the PPACA. In addition, the Obama administration is secretly involved in a treaty negotiation that potentially undermines the very part of the PPACA Caspian is pointing to to prove how great this provision is.

GPhA Expresses Concern Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement Negotiations Could Hinder Access and Competition to Generic Drugs | Generic Pharmaceutical Association

 

[BDBoop]

I'm good with the OP, thanks.

 

[swizzlee]

Yes, indeed! And only one................

with the cognitive skills of a 5 yr old could accept this "explanation" of Obamacare as a plus and a solution to our problems with our health system.

Adults, even many with a minimum of education, can see it for what it really is - an unmitigated financial and occupational disaster for all of us.

 

[Annie]

Awesome Post!

You are right even a 5yo should eb able to see the good in this legislation!

And only an adult can see how it will destroy our healthcare system and our individual liberties.

Though you'll have to wait until afterwards to say, "We told you so."

Now I'm not saying that 'reform' isn't necessary and the parts that most folks would like were front loaded, along with taxes. By the time all would become clear, if not repealed and replaced, would be too late.

 

[BDBoop]

I guess I'm going to just have to revel in the victory for however long it takes for the whining to stop.

 

[swizzlee]

I suspect you'll be reveling................

for about as long as you've been stuck in kindergarten

 

[BDBoop]

I suspect you'll be reveling................

for about as long as you've been stuck in kindergarten

My grandson starts there this fall.

So you're saying y'all are going to be whining for a Very Long Time?

 

[Stephanie]

you ever thought you'd see the day when people would be "reveling" for the taxing, fining and our FEDERAL government IMPOSING penalties on people for not BUYING something ?

this is how sick our society has become

 

[Quantum Windbag]

I'm good with the OP, thanks.

Of course you are.

 

[swizzlee]

And my great granddaughter has already graduated and ready for the big time.

Sorry, boobie, I can't answer for anyone else but I don't waste my time whining.

I'm a do-er, not a whiner.

 

[BDBoop]

Yeah, yeah.

You know, there IS alzheimer's treatment. You don't have to just hang out here, showing your ass.

 

[WillowTree]

Task task. Task

 

[Jroc]

CaspianX2 comments on ELI5: What exactly is Obamacare and what did it change?

This is just the part about what is currently in effect.

Already in effect:

• It allows the Food and Drug Administration to approve more generic drugs (making for more competition in the market to drive down prices) ( Citation: An entire section of the bill, called Title VII, is devoted to this, starting on page 747 )
• It increases the rebates on drugs people get through Medicare (so drugs cost less) ( Citation: Page 216, sec. 2501 )
• It establishes a non-profit group, that the government doesn't directly control, PCORI, to study different kinds of treatments to see what works better and is the best use of money. ( Citation: Page 665, sec. 1181 )
• It makes chain restaurants like McDonalds display how many calories are in all of their foods, so people can have an easier time making choices to eat healthy. ( Citation: Page 499, sec. 4205 )
• It makes a "high-risk pool" for people with pre-existing conditions. Basically, this is a way to slowly ease into getting rid of "pre-existing conditions" altogether. For now, people who already have health issues that would be considered "pre-existing conditions" can still get insurance, but at different rates than people without them. ( Citation: Page 30, sec. 1101, Page 45, sec. 2704, and Page 46, sec. 2702 )
• It forbids insurance companies from discriminating based on a disability, or because they were the victim of domestic abuse in the past (yes, insurers really did deny coverage for that) ( Citation: Page 47, sec. 2705 )
• It renews some old policies, and calls for the appointment of various positions.
• It creates a new 10% tax on indoor tanning booths. ( Citation: Page 923, sec. 5000B )
• It says that health insurance companies can no longer tell customers that they won't get any more coverage because they have hit a "lifetime limit". Basically, if someone has paid for health insurance, that company can't tell that person that he's used that insurance too much throughout his life so they won't cover him any more. They can't do this for lifetime spending, and they're limited in how much they can do this for yearly spending. ( Citation: Page 14, sec. 2711 )
• Kids can continue to be covered by their parents' health insurance until they're 26. ( Citation: Page 15, sec. 2714 )
• No more "pre-existing conditions" for kids under the age of 19. ( Citation: Page 45, sec. 2704 and Page 57, sec. 1255 )
• Insurers have less ability to change the amount customers have to pay for their plans. ( Citation: Page 47, sec. 2794 )
• People in a "Medicare Gap" get a rebate to make up for the extra money they would otherwise have to spend. ( Citation: Page 379, sec. 3301 )
• Insurers can't just drop customers once they get sick. ( Citation: Page 14, sec. 2712 )
• Insurers have to tell customers what they're spending money on. (Instead of just "administrative fee", they have to be more specific).
• Insurers need to have an appeals process for when they turn down a claim, so customers have some manner of recourse other than a lawsuit when they're turned down. ( Citation: Page 42, sec. 2719 )
• Anti-fraud funding is increased and new ways to stop fraud are created. ( Citation: Page 699, sec. 6402 )
• Medicare extends to smaller hospitals. ( Citation: Starting on page 344, the entire section "Part II" seems to deal with this )
• Medicare patients with chronic illnesses must be monitored more thoroughly.
• Reduces the costs for some companies that handle benefits for the elderly. ( Citation: Page 492, sec. 4202 )
• A new website is made to give people insurance and health information. (I think this is it: Home | HealthCare.gov ). ( Citation: Page 36, sec. 1103 )
• A credit program is made that will make it easier for business to invest in new ways to treat illness by paying half the cost of the investment. (Note - this program was temporary. It already ended) ( Citation: Page 830, sec. 9023 )
• A limit is placed on just how much of a percentage of the money an insurer makes can be profit, to make sure they're not price-gouging customers. ( Citation: Page 22, sec. 1101 )
• A limit is placed on what type of insurance accounts can be used to pay for over-the-counter drugs without a prescription. Basically, your insurer isn't paying for the Aspirin you bought for that hangover. ( Citation: Page 800, sec. 9003 )
• Employers need to list the benefits they provided to employees on their tax forms. ( Citation: Page 800, sec. 9002 )
• Any new health plans must provide preventative care (mammograms, colonoscopies, etc.) without requiring any sort of co-pay or charge. ( Citation: Page 14, sec. 2713 )

The original link has the citations for validation.

So whats the 2700 pages for again?

 

[swizzlee]

It impresses the 5 yr olds...............

You KNOW they much prefer quantity over quality

 

[Synthaholic]

And OH, YAY! It's about damn time.

Congress and Congressional staff will only be offered the same insurance offered to people in the insurance exchanges, rather than Federal Insurance. Basically, we won't be footing their health care bills any more than any other American citizen. ( Citation: Page 81, sec. 1312 )

Why do GOP Senators and House members hate this idea?

Because Obama was for it.

 

[Synthaholic]

CaspianX2 comments on ELI5: What exactly is Obamacare and what did it change?

This is just the part about what is currently in effect.

Already in effect:

• It allows the Food and Drug Administration to approve more generic drugs (making for more competition in the market to drive down prices) ( Citation: An entire section of the bill, called Title VII, is devoted to this, starting on page 747 )
• It increases the rebates on drugs people get through Medicare (so drugs cost less) ( Citation: Page 216, sec. 2501 )
• It establishes a non-profit group, that the government doesn't directly control, PCORI, to study different kinds of treatments to see what works better and is the best use of money. ( Citation: Page 665, sec. 1181 )
• It makes chain restaurants like McDonalds display how many calories are in all of their foods, so people can have an easier time making choices to eat healthy. ( Citation: Page 499, sec. 4205 )
• It makes a "high-risk pool" for people with pre-existing conditions. Basically, this is a way to slowly ease into getting rid of "pre-existing conditions" altogether. For now, people who already have health issues that would be considered "pre-existing conditions" can still get insurance, but at different rates than people without them. ( Citation: Page 30, sec. 1101, Page 45, sec. 2704, and Page 46, sec. 2702 )
• It forbids insurance companies from discriminating based on a disability, or because they were the victim of domestic abuse in the past (yes, insurers really did deny coverage for that) ( Citation: Page 47, sec. 2705 )
• It renews some old policies, and calls for the appointment of various positions.
• It creates a new 10% tax on indoor tanning booths. ( Citation: Page 923, sec. 5000B )
• It says that health insurance companies can no longer tell customers that they won't get any more coverage because they have hit a "lifetime limit". Basically, if someone has paid for health insurance, that company can't tell that person that he's used that insurance too much throughout his life so they won't cover him any more. They can't do this for lifetime spending, and they're limited in how much they can do this for yearly spending. ( Citation: Page 14, sec. 2711 )
• Kids can continue to be covered by their parents' health insurance until they're 26. ( Citation: Page 15, sec. 2714 )
• No more "pre-existing conditions" for kids under the age of 19. ( Citation: Page 45, sec. 2704 and Page 57, sec. 1255 )
• Insurers have less ability to change the amount customers have to pay for their plans. ( Citation: Page 47, sec. 2794 )
• People in a "Medicare Gap" get a rebate to make up for the extra money they would otherwise have to spend. ( Citation: Page 379, sec. 3301 )
• Insurers can't just drop customers once they get sick. ( Citation: Page 14, sec. 2712 )
• Insurers have to tell customers what they're spending money on. (Instead of just "administrative fee", they have to be more specific).
• Insurers need to have an appeals process for when they turn down a claim, so customers have some manner of recourse other than a lawsuit when they're turned down. ( Citation: Page 42, sec. 2719 )
• Anti-fraud funding is increased and new ways to stop fraud are created. ( Citation: Page 699, sec. 6402 )
• Medicare extends to smaller hospitals. ( Citation: Starting on page 344, the entire section "Part II" seems to deal with this )
• Medicare patients with chronic illnesses must be monitored more thoroughly.
• Reduces the costs for some companies that handle benefits for the elderly. ( Citation: Page 492, sec. 4202 )
• A new website is made to give people insurance and health information. (I think this is it: Home | HealthCare.gov ). ( Citation: Page 36, sec. 1103 )
• A credit program is made that will make it easier for business to invest in new ways to treat illness by paying half the cost of the investment. (Note - this program was temporary. It already ended) ( Citation: Page 830, sec. 9023 )
• A limit is placed on just how much of a percentage of the money an insurer makes can be profit, to make sure they're not price-gouging customers. ( Citation: Page 22, sec. 1101 )
• A limit is placed on what type of insurance accounts can be used to pay for over-the-counter drugs without a prescription. Basically, your insurer isn't paying for the Aspirin you bought for that hangover. ( Citation: Page 800, sec. 9003 )
• Employers need to list the benefits they provided to employees on their tax forms. ( Citation: Page 800, sec. 9002 )
• Any new health plans must provide preventative care (mammograms, colonoscopies, etc.) without requiring any sort of co-pay or charge. ( Citation: Page 14, sec. 2713 )

The original link has the citations for validation.

So whats the 2700 pages for again?

Do you know how many pages Chief Justice Robert's opinion was?

Do you know how many pages Justice Scalia's dissent was?

 

[ABikerSailor]

you ever thought you'd see the day when people would be "reveling" for the taxing, fining and our FEDERAL government IMPOSING penalties on people for not BUYING something ?

this is how sick our society has become

Actually, they do that if you don't buy car insurance.

 

[ABikerSailor]

CaspianX2 comments on ELI5: What exactly is Obamacare and what did it change?

This is just the part about what is currently in effect.



The original link has the citations for validation.

So whats the 2700 pages for again?

Do you know how many pages Chief Justice Robert's opinion was?

Do you know how many pages Justice Scalia's dissent was?

Scalia was around 2 pages........................

 

[Political Junky]

And OH, YAY! It's about damn time.

Congress and Congressional staff will only be offered the same insurance offered to people in the insurance exchanges, rather than Federal Insurance. Basically, we won't be footing their health care bills any more than any other American citizen. ( Citation: Page 81, sec. 1312 )

Why do GOP Senators and House members hate this idea?

Because it's Obama's.