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True story that is ignored.
We researched Obama’s position on "born alive" legislation extensively during the presidential campaign. Obama favors abortion rights generally, and he opposed the state version of Illinois’ "born alive" measure as a state senator. But he never said that premature children, The federal legislation (the law Santorum sponsored in the Senate) became law in 2002. The federal legislation included a so-called "neutrality clause," which said the law would not change the legal status or legal rights of anyone prior to being "born alive." Abortion rights advocates said the clause was necessary to make sure the bill would not affect current abortion laws.
Obama said as far back as 2004 that he would have supported the federal bill and that he would have supported the Illinois versions if they had included a similar neutrality clause. The laws the full Illinois Senate voted on in 2001 and 2002 did not have such a clause, but 2003 is a different story even those who survived an abortion, could be killed.
...Obama never said that "any child prior to nine months of gestation would be able to be killed" or that "any child born prematurely … can be killed," as Santorum said.
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Our ruling
To reiterate what’s not in dispute: Obama opposed "born alive" legislation in Illinois and gave several reasons for opposing the proposals. But at no time did he make the argument that infants who survived botched abortions should be killed.
BIG LIE!
Obama didn't vote FOR infanticide.
He voted against the "Born Alive" bill in IL because a similar law was already on the books from the early '70's requiring a doctor to administer medical care to an infant born alive during an abortion.
He opposed it because it was an attempt to give "personhood" status to the infant beyond what the current law already said and didn't distinguish between a viable or non-viable born alive infant.
According to Politifact (and Factcheck bears this out also):
We researched Obamas position on "born alive" legislation extensively during the presidential campaign. Obama favors abortion rights generally, and he opposed the state version of Illinois "born alive" measure as a state senator. But he never said that premature children, The federal legislation (the law Santorum sponsored in the Senate) became law in 2002. The federal legislation included a so-called "neutrality clause," which said the law would not change the legal status or legal rights of anyone prior to being "born alive." Abortion rights advocates said the clause was necessary to make sure the bill would not affect current abortion laws.
Obama said as far back as 2004 that he would have supported the federal bill and that he would have supported the Illinois versions if they had included a similar neutrality clause. The laws the full Illinois Senate voted on in 2001 and 2002 did not have such a clause, but 2003 is a different story even those who survived an abortion, could be killed.
...Obama never said that "any child prior to nine months of gestation would be able to be killed" or that "any child born prematurely can be killed," as Santorum said.
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Our ruling
To reiterate whats not in dispute: Obama opposed "born alive" legislation in Illinois and gave several reasons for opposing the proposals. But at no time did he make the argument that infants who survived botched abortions should be killed.
Do the libs have an infanticide exception clause in their abortion platform?
Do the libs have an infanticide exception clause in their abortion platform?
BIG LIE!
Obama didn't vote FOR infanticide.
He voted against the "Born Alive" bill in IL because a similar law was already on the books from the early '70's requiring a doctor to administer medical care to an infant born alive during an abortion.
True story that is ignored.
I prefer infanticide in the aerosol version.
BIG LIE!
Obama didn't vote FOR infanticide.
He voted against the "Born Alive" bill in IL because a similar law was already on the books from the early '70's requiring a doctor to administer medical care to an infant born alive during an abortion.
What is wrong with the law from the '70's?
What happened to the Hippocratic oath?
Spin the words any way you want to.
Leaving the 'victim', in this case a BABY, in a hall closet to die after a botched abortion is called what.......?
Is everything from 2008 going to be rehashed in 2012?
True story that is ignored.
You lie! This bullshit has been thoroughly debunked - and you know it.