you start with me, I finish you
translation: I just got my ass kicked, and I need a snappy retort."
LOL I would have told him to wipe his chin. Not much wit displayed in his response.
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you start with me, I finish you
translation: I just got my ass kicked, and I need a snappy retort."
LOL I would have told him to wipe his chin. Not much wit displayed in his response.
translation: I just got my ass kicked, and I need a snappy retort."
LOL I would have told him to wipe his chin. Not much wit displayed in his response.
Topspin just got banned.
Yeah I was just gonna post about that.
Anyone notice that it took less time for folks to get fed up with the dems? You could say it took more than 4 years for Bush, but less than 2 for Obama.
Just looking at a calendar hardly tells the story, genius. THIS is what faced Obama in 3 months when he took over from Bush:
Did Democrats Cause Crash?
October 10, 2008
Lets put this in perspective. The entire global banking system is imploding. Governments across the entire planet are propping up, buying, nationalizing, insuring, lending to nearly every bank and investment firm in existence. Those not yet affected will be affected by those presently failing as well as those yet to fail. They all rely on each other. When one fails another loses assets. It is a positive feedback loop with devastating consequences.
As we ask ourselves, did the democrats cause this, we have to put it all in perspective with this question; Is is possible that a calamity of this magnitude was caused by Barneys equal housing campaign? Lets think this through. The sub-prime market was but a small piece of the global economy. There ARE many factors at play. Sub-prime is only one of them. Congress may have encouraged sub-prime experimentation. Congress did not pass any piece of legislation, though, directing any bank or investment firm to abuse derivatives or credit default swaps. This problem is exponentially bigger than a trillion odd dollars in sub-prime mortgages that still have a true present and future cash value.
The Bush administration did in fact push this bubble up and up and up. Please open a new browser window, go to Google and put the words Office of the Comptroller of the Currency in the search window. Dig and dig, America. There is plenty of blame to go around, and much of it lands squarely on the Bush administration.
All this said, within the past three weeks John McCain said the economy is fundamentally sound. We now know without any doubt that John McCains understanding of the gravity of the situation could not have been more wrong. John McCain is not qualified to lead America at this time. Sit down, John. Take a deep breath. Then retire.
Did Democrats Cause Crash? Lehman Brothers Word Press
You need to understand that I'm not for any political party that screws things up as both have done.
But to counterpoint, Obama went to washington for Bush's bailout, and gave his blessing on that, remember?
By the way, when people start getting jobs again, and business actually picks up again, will most folks believe the recovery has started. No matter what anyone says, the proof is in the jobs.
And next time, try not name calling and not using a blog as fact.
jeffrockit said:Point 2:
Under Bush unemployment was less than 5%. It is almost 10% under the community organizer.
Both Republicans AND Democrats depend on the same 1% of the population to fund their campaigns, and, with a few exceptions like Pat Tillman, it's not the 1% sending their children to Afghanistan.
There are viable third party options on many ballots around the country.
If 100-200 House Republicans AND Democrats are FLUSHED on November 2nd and replaced by Greens and Libertarians, that would be Change We Could All Begin to Believe In.
FLUSH the DC TOILET in 2010.
translation: I just got my ass kicked, and I need a snappy retort."
LOL I would have told him to wipe his chin. Not much wit displayed in his response.
Topspin just got banned.
LOL I would have told him to wipe his chin. Not much wit displayed in his response.
Topspin just got banned.
Why? The same language and tone is everywhere. Uh oh, new rules? Am I going to get banned for posting a pic of Jesus giving the finger in another thread? Oh well, I can use the time out anyway.
Newbies would have one big advantage coming out of the starting gate: They could point out the glaring class distinctions that have arisen in this country in the last 40 years without offending their donor base.Both Republicans AND Democrats depend on the same 1% of the population to fund their campaigns, and, with a few exceptions like Pat Tillman, it's not the 1% sending their children to Afghanistan.
There are viable third party options on many ballots around the country.
If 100-200 House Republicans AND Democrats are FLUSHED on November 2nd and replaced by Greens and Libertarians, that would be Change We Could All Begin to Believe In.
FLUSH the DC TOILET in 2010.
So I'll ask the question again. How on earth are newbies going to change anything meaningful right out of the gate? They can't, and they won't. Unemployment numbers won't magically drop just because congress is "flushed." The economy won't make a 180 overnight just because some noobs think we should take giant steps backward and become strict constitutionalists. How much time are you willing to give new guys?
So basically the Economy was already in recovery when we spent all that money, and as this shows it is now contracting again with each passing quarter
nicely done DC
Essentially, the chart shows just how fucked up the Shrub and company left the country...and how the neocon parrots pretend that all things started with Obama stepping into office and he should have straightened it all out in less than a year. Of course, all those GOP filibusters and line vote NO just sped things along.
Thanks Chuck.
Let's see... a year after Obama took office and gdp starts dropping. I fail to see how that is not Obama's fault.
Your failure lies in not taking into account that the cumulation of the Shrub's disasterous financial took place in that year....and that none of Obama's policies/proposals took effect in that year.
Businesses are holding back right now because they don't know for sure what is coming with all the new policies. Mostly what we see are more expenses just to be in business. We've stopped hiring and investing since we can't tell what the outcome will really be. We know it's gonna be worse, but not how much worse.
Some Businesses are "holding back" because they are trying to circumnavigate the new accountability and responsibility in order to maintain a profit margin. Other Businesses that outsourced are not "holding back" anything.
Besides, paperwork for every purchase over $600? Fucking insanity. That will force some to hire people just to handle that. Employees that bring in no income, just to do Gov't paperwork. I could hire 2 people that will bring in income, for the same cost.
No you don't. You see jjust below 4% and then just below 2% That's still positive. If they were below the 0 on the chart, that would negative. If a car slows from 60mph to 40mph to 20 mph, it's not going backwards (negative velocity), it's still going forward (positive velocity).Anybody remember if GDP is a leading or trailing indicator of policy? I would guess trailing.
I see two quarters of negative growth, .
No you don't. You see jjust below 4% and then just below 2% That's still positive. If they were below the 0 on the chart, that would negative. If a car slows from 60mph to 40mph to 20 mph, it's not going backwards (negative velocity), it's still going forward (positive velocity).Anybody remember if GDP is a leading or trailing indicator of policy? I would guess trailing.
I see two quarters of negative growth, .
(RCP)- Im one of your middle class Americans. And quite frankly, Im exhausted. Exhausted of defending you, defending your administration, defending the mantle of change that I voted for, a woman told President Obama at a town hall.
Does she have any unpaid taxes? She does now.
Topsin may have been Jay Canuck from MSNBC... the were both on par intellectually.
Topsin may have been Jay Canuck from MSNBC... the were both on par intellectually.
I've never seen you post anything remotely "intellectual," so how would you know? Hell, you can't even be bothered copying the post you're replying to, assuming we're all fucking mind readers. It doesn't take a mental giant to figure out that's the way it's done.