Obama to his base, “guard my failed socialist revolution”

[Meister]

you start with me, I finish you

translation: I just got my ass kicked, and I need a snappy retort."

LOL I would have told him to wipe his chin. Not much wit displayed in his response.

Topspin just got banned.

 

[Full-Auto]

translation: I just got my ass kicked, and I need a snappy retort."

LOL I would have told him to wipe his chin. Not much wit displayed in his response.

Topspin just got banned.

I am tearing up.

 

[MaggieMae]

Yeah I was just gonna post about that.

Anyone notice that it took less time for folks to get fed up with the dems? You could say it took more than 4 years for Bush, but less than 2 for Obama.

Just looking at a calendar hardly tells the story, genius. THIS is what faced Obama in 3 months when he took over from Bush:

Did Democrats Cause Crash?
October 10, 2008

Let’s put this in perspective. The entire global banking system is imploding. Governments across the entire planet are propping up, buying, nationalizing, insuring, lending to nearly every bank and investment firm in existence. Those not yet affected will be affected by those presently failing as well as those yet to fail. They all rely on each other. When one fails another loses assets. It is a positive feedback loop with devastating consequences.

As we ask ourselves, did the democrats cause this, we have to put it all in perspective with this question; Is is possible that a calamity of this magnitude was caused by Barney’s equal housing campaign? Let’s think this through. The sub-prime market was but a small piece of the global economy. There ARE many factors at play. Sub-prime is only one of them. Congress may have encouraged sub-prime experimentation. Congress did not pass any piece of legislation, though, directing any bank or investment firm to abuse derivatives or credit default swaps. This problem is exponentially bigger than a trillion odd dollars in sub-prime mortgages that still have a true present and future cash value.

The Bush administration did in fact push this bubble up and up and up. Please open a new browser window, go to Google and put the words Office of the Comptroller of the Currency in the search window. Dig and dig, America. There is plenty of blame to go around, and much of it lands squarely on the Bush administration.

All this said, within the past three weeks John McCain said the economy is fundamentally sound. We now know without any doubt that John McCain’s understanding of the gravity of the situation could not have been more wrong. John McCain is not qualified to lead America at this time. Sit down, John. Take a deep breath. Then retire.

Did Democrats Cause Crash? Lehman Brothers Word Press

You need to understand that I'm not for any political party that screws things up as both have done.

But to counterpoint, Obama went to washington for Bush's bailout, and gave his blessing on that, remember?

By the way, when people start getting jobs again, and business actually picks up again, will most folks believe the recovery has started. No matter what anyone says, the proof is in the jobs.

And next time, try not name calling and not using a blog as fact.

The blog entry cites the early FACTS. There's plenty more well sourced material where that came from, but it was the most concise and easiest to understand since way too many people still don't get what happened and what COULD have happened were it not for TARP.

 

[MaggieMae]

Point 2:
Under Bush unemployment was less than 5%. It is almost 10% under the community organizer.

Using talking points about unemployment hardly tells the whole story. Again, this was the unemployment situation when Obama took office:

Total 2008 job loss: 2.6 million - Jan. 9, 2009

 

[MaggieMae]

Both Republicans AND Democrats depend on the same 1% of the population to fund their campaigns, and, with a few exceptions like Pat Tillman, it's not the 1% sending their children to Afghanistan.

There are viable third party options on many ballots around the country.

If 100-200 House Republicans AND Democrats are FLUSHED on November 2nd and replaced by Greens and Libertarians, that would be Change We Could All Begin to Believe In.

FLUSH the DC TOILET in 2010.

So I'll ask the question again. How on earth are newbies going to change anything meaningful right out of the gate? They can't, and they won't. Unemployment numbers won't magically drop just because congress is "flushed." The economy won't make a 180 overnight just because some noobs think we should take giant steps backward and become strict constitutionalists. How much time are you willing to give new guys?

 

[MaggieMae]

translation: I just got my ass kicked, and I need a snappy retort."

LOL I would have told him to wipe his chin. Not much wit displayed in his response.

Topspin just got banned.

Why? The same language and tone is everywhere. Uh oh, new rules? Am I going to get banned for posting a pic of Jesus giving the finger in another thread? Oh well, I can use the time out anyway.

 

[Meister]

LOL I would have told him to wipe his chin. Not much wit displayed in his response.

Topspin just got banned.

Why? The same language and tone is everywhere. Uh oh, new rules? Am I going to get banned for posting a pic of Jesus giving the finger in another thread? Oh well, I can use the time out anyway.

He made some threatening remarks to another poster. No new rules, and I doubt you would be banned, Maggie...if you do I'll do some bitching about it.

 

[georgephillip]

Both Republicans AND Democrats depend on the same 1% of the population to fund their campaigns, and, with a few exceptions like Pat Tillman, it's not the 1% sending their children to Afghanistan.

There are viable third party options on many ballots around the country.

If 100-200 House Republicans AND Democrats are FLUSHED on November 2nd and replaced by Greens and Libertarians, that would be Change We Could All Begin to Believe In.

FLUSH the DC TOILET in 2010.

So I'll ask the question again. How on earth are newbies going to change anything meaningful right out of the gate? They can't, and they won't. Unemployment numbers won't magically drop just because congress is "flushed." The economy won't make a 180 overnight just because some noobs think we should take giant steps backward and become strict constitutionalists. How much time are you willing to give new guys?

Newbies would have one big advantage coming out of the starting gate: They could point out the glaring class distinctions that have arisen in this country in the last 40 years without offending their donor base.

If it's true,"...America is staggering under the sheer weight of its white underclass, which now numbers some sixty million.

"Generally unable to read at a functional level, they are easily manipulated by corporate-political interests to vote against advances in health and education, and even more easily mustered in support of any proposed military conflict, aggressive or otherwise."

Both Republicans and Democrats can't even talk about a "massive white underclass" and its contribution to our democratic decay without offending the top 1% of the population (their base) that currently controls more wealth than the bottom 45% combined.

Bitter Tales from the...

There are options out there like State Banking that could radically transform America. Imagine 2% mortgages and credit cards capped at 6%, and billions of dollars in interest payments every year that currently go to Wall Street staying inside your state, creating millions of jobs. (North Dakota since 1919)

Republicans AND Democrats won't touch state banking.

Republicans AND Democrats need Wall Street every day.

They need voters every 2 - 6 years.

FLUSH the DC TOILET in 2010!

 

[taichiliberal]

So basically the Economy was already in recovery when we spent all that money, and as this shows it is now contracting again with each passing quarter

nicely done DC

Essentially, the chart shows just how fucked up the Shrub and company left the country...and how the neocon parrots pretend that all things started with Obama stepping into office and he should have straightened it all out in less than a year. Of course, all those GOP filibusters and line vote NO just sped things along.

Thanks Chuck.

Let's see... a year after Obama took office and gdp starts dropping. I fail to see how that is not Obama's fault.

Your failure lies in not taking into account that the cumulation of the Shrub's disasterous financial took place in that year....and that none of Obama's policies/proposals took effect in that year.

Businesses are holding back right now because they don't know for sure what is coming with all the new policies. Mostly what we see are more expenses just to be in business. We've stopped hiring and investing since we can't tell what the outcome will really be. We know it's gonna be worse, but not how much worse.

Some Businesses are "holding back" because they are trying to circumnavigate the new accountability and responsibility in order to maintain a profit margin. Other Businesses that outsourced are not "holding back" anything.

Besides, paperwork for every purchase over $600? Fucking insanity. That will force some to hire people just to handle that. Employees that bring in no income, just to do Gov't paperwork. I could hire 2 people that will bring in income, for the same cost.

What's fucking insane is the neocon talking point you just tried to pass as a bonafide fact. Please source the basis for this assertion.

 

[saveliberty]

Anybody remember if GDP is a leading or trailing indicator of policy? I would guess trailing.

I see two quarters of negative growth, doesn't that indicate a recession started in January of 2010? Yeah, it does.

 

[pinqy]

Anybody remember if GDP is a leading or trailing indicator of policy? I would guess trailing.

I see two quarters of negative growth, .

No you don't. You see jjust below 4% and then just below 2% That's still positive. If they were below the 0 on the chart, that would negative. If a car slows from 60mph to 40mph to 20 mph, it's not going backwards (negative velocity), it's still going forward (positive velocity).

 

[Meister]

Anybody remember if GDP is a leading or trailing indicator of policy? I would guess trailing.

I see two quarters of negative growth, .

No you don't. You see jjust below 4% and then just below 2% That's still positive. If they were below the 0 on the chart, that would negative. If a car slows from 60mph to 40mph to 20 mph, it's not going backwards (negative velocity), it's still going forward (positive velocity).

Unless your putting on the brakes, my guess would be it's out of gas slowing like that.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Yea that's what that lard a*s Nazi in Venezuela is saying too. Socialism/Communism just doesn't work in the end. If you believe in Freedom & Liberty,you cannot possibly support Socialism/Communism. It's not what our nation is all about. Lets hope we see a 'Correction Election' in November. Time to show the Socialists/Progressives the door.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

(RCP)- “I’m one of your middle class Americans. And quite frankly, I’m exhausted. Exhausted of defending you, defending your administration, defending the mantle of change that I voted for,” a woman told President Obama at a town hall.

Does she have any unpaid taxes? She does now.

Truly classic moment in time. Did you see his face once he realized she wasn't gonna spew "DAT BOOOOOOOSH!!!" chit? You just know he thought his lackeys packed that crowd with ignorant "BOOOOOOOOSH!!" fools. I laughed my a*s off over this one.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Why not, he's got the Fed printing money and pouring it into the stock market to make that look good.... WTF? Anything goes.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Topspin? The million $$ MBA wiz kid with the writing acumen of a 3rd grader? Hooowah!!!

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Topsin may have been Jay Canuck from MSNBC... the were both on par intellectually.

 

[MaggieMae]

Topsin may have been Jay Canuck from MSNBC... the were both on par intellectually.

I've never seen you post anything remotely "intellectual," so how would you know? Hell, you can't even be bothered copying the post you're replying to, assuming we're all fucking mind readers. It doesn't take a mental giant to figure out that's the way it's done.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Topsin may have been Jay Canuck from MSNBC... the were both on par intellectually.

I've never seen you post anything remotely "intellectual," so how would you know? Hell, you can't even be bothered copying the post you're replying to, assuming we're all fucking mind readers. It doesn't take a mental giant to figure out that's the way it's done.

I don't sit on here day in and day out posting shit that lacks the most basic punctuation and sentence structure then claim to be a millionaire genius who's smarter than everybody else.

And finally, all I assume when it comes to you is that your an idiot who can't follow much of anything.. you get sidetracked on your own threads.

So buzz off.

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

Oh, and Maggie.. in the future, when I want your opinion, I'll ask for it. Till that time, be a babe and speak when spoken to.