obama: Single Payer Would Be Better Than ACA

[Edgetho]

I've been telling you all along that the ACA was a false flag operation by dimocraps aimed at forcing a single payer plan on the United States.

IOW, it was designed to fail.

BTW, in case you are one of the few that don't follow my posts religiously like you should, I am favor of an ACA-like Health Insurance program in this Country.

I am tired of people who refuse to pay their own way. I am tired of people who refuse to buy Health Insurance and then, when they do get hurt or sick, go to the E Room with zero intention of ever paying their bill -- Which can go into the MILLIONS of dollars.

When you have Socialized Medicine, people. You have socialism. That simple

Here is the Audio --

Obama A Single Payer System Would Be Better than ObamaCare Grabien - The Multimedia Marketplace

 

[OKTexas]

He's said that from the beginning, got anything new?

 

[hortysir]

Single payer = us = US

 

[Mad Scientist]

What?

Are you saying that Governments implement programs that are DESIGNED to fail then replace it with something WORSE?

Why, that's only happened for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years!

 

[Edgetho]

He's said that from the beginning, got anything new?

Not as President or as a candidate for President.

• In February 2004, about a month before the primary election in the U.S. Senate race, the Associated Press reported the stance of all the candidates on universal health care. "Obama says he supports the idea of universal health care but does not think a single-payer government system is feasible. He says the government should be the health care provider of last resort for the uninsured." In a rundown of all the candidates' positions, the Associated Press summarized Obama's position as "Support, but 'probably not at this stage,' a single-payer government system."
• In his book The Audacity of Hope , published in October 2006 when he was a U.S. senator, Obama described single-payer as the hope of the left, while those on the right wanted a market-based approach. "It's time we broke this impasse by acknowledging a few simple truths," Obama wrote, suggesting a system much like the one he supports today.
• In April 2007, a few months after he declared his candidacy for presidency, the Chicago Tribunereported, "Obama has pledged that, if elected, all Americans would have health-care coverage by the end of his first term. He has said he is reluctant to switch to a 'single-payer' national health insurance system because of the difficulty in making a quick transition from the employer-based private system."

 

[Edgetho]

What?

Are you saying that Governments implement programs that are DESIGNED to fail then replace it with something WORSE?

Why, that's only happened for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years!

And you work for the government, no doubt

 

[Zoom-boing]

Many of the Dems are on record as wanting single payer., anyone who bothered to pay attention know this. The unaca was shoved through even though they knew it would fail ... that was the point. The gov't will now say "see, we tried it your way, it doesn't work, single payer is the only way". They created the problem with the unaca and are now claiming they are the only ones who can fix it.

 

[Votto]

What?

Are you saying that Governments implement programs that are DESIGNED to fail then replace it with something WORSE?

Why, that's only happened for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years!

Next will be the entire economy so they can replace it with something new and improved.

Do you see a pattern here? Create a crisis and then use it your own ends.

 

[Zoom-boing]

He's said that from the beginning, got anything new?

Not as President or as a candidate for President.

• In February 2004, about a month before the primary election in the U.S. Senate race, the Associated Press reported the stance of all the candidates on universal health care. "Obama says he supports the idea of universal health care but does not think a single-payer government system is feasible. He says the government should be the health care provider of last resort for the uninsured." In a rundown of all the candidates' positions, the Associated Press summarized Obama's position as "Support, but 'probably not at this stage,' a single-payer government system."
• In his book The Audacity of Hope , published in October 2006 when he was a U.S. senator, Obama described single-payer as the hope of the left, while those on the right wanted a market-based approach. "It's time we broke this impasse by acknowledging a few simple truths," Obama wrote, suggesting a system much like the one he supports today.
• In April 2007, a few months after he declared his candidacy for presidency, the Chicago Tribunereported, "Obama has pledged that, if elected, all Americans would have health-care coverage by the end of his first term. He has said he is reluctant to switch to a 'single-payer' national health insurance system because of the difficulty in making a quick transition from the employer-based private system."

@ 1:01 he says he is a proponent of single payer, universal health care.

 

[Katzndogz]

Only the very ignorant didn't know that obastard had no intention of obamacare ever working.

 

[The Rabbi]

What?

Are you saying that Governments implement programs that are DESIGNED to fail then replace it with something WORSE?

Why, that's only happened for hundreds, perhaps thousands of years!

Next will be the entire economy so they can replace it with something new and improved.

Do you see a pattern here? Create a crisis and then use it your own ends.

That is exactly the plan. So the banking crisis resulted in Dodd-Frank, virtually making banks into government run institutions. ACA did that for health insurers. Obama made education loans the province of the federal government. IT is all about seizing power.

 

[Edgetho]

Next will be the entire economy so they can replace it with something new and improved.

Do you see a pattern here? Create a crisis and then use it your own ends.

Exactly the way another criminal organization works.

Luigi walks into a Bar, "Nice place you got here. Be a shame if something happened to it."

Bar owner, "I don't have any problems."

Three nights later, place is robbed, bar tender beaten, patron shot.

Luigi comes back, "I can make that stop"

Bar owner, "No thanks"

Three nights later, Bar catches fire. Serious damage but Bar is saved.

Luigi comes back with Guido in tow, "Ready to talk about some 'Insurance'?"

Create a problem, fix the problem. Oldest organized crime trick in the book.

dimocrap filth should know, they wrote it

 

[M14 Shooter]

Obamacare: Designed to fail.

 

[Edgetho]

That is exactly the plan. So the banking crisis resulted in Dodd-Frank, virtually making banks into government run institutions. ACA did that for health insurers. Obama made education loans the province of the federal government. IT is all about seizing power.

Once they can get gun confiscation passed, they're on the road to where they want to go -- Totalitarianism...... dimocrap filth style

 

[OKTexas]

He's said that from the beginning, got anything new?

Not as President or as a candidate for President.

• In February 2004, about a month before the primary election in the U.S. Senate race, the Associated Press reported the stance of all the candidates on universal health care. "Obama says he supports the idea of universal health care but does not think a single-payer government system is feasible. He says the government should be the health care provider of last resort for the uninsured." In a rundown of all the candidates' positions, the Associated Press summarized Obama's position as "Support, but 'probably not at this stage,' a single-payer government system."
• In his book The Audacity of Hope , published in October 2006 when he was a U.S. senator, Obama described single-payer as the hope of the left, while those on the right wanted a market-based approach. "It's time we broke this impasse by acknowledging a few simple truths," Obama wrote, suggesting a system much like the one he supports today.
• In April 2007, a few months after he declared his candidacy for presidency, the Chicago Tribunereported, "Obama has pledged that, if elected, all Americans would have health-care coverage by the end of his first term. He has said he is reluctant to switch to a 'single-payer' national health insurance system because of the difficulty in making a quick transition from the employer-based private system."

Actually he did, here's a few quotes:

Obama – Remarks – 8/4/07

“This is a two trillion dollar part of our economy and it is my belief that it’s not just politically but economically it is better for us to start getting a system in place–a universal healthcare system signed into law by the end of my first term as president and build off that system to further to make it more rational…”

“By the way, Canada did not start immediately with a single payer system. They had a similar transition step. “

Obama- New Hampshire Public Radio 11/21/07

OBAMA: It’s a transitional system building on the existing systems that we have.

HOST: Transitional to what?

OBAMA: Transitional, hopefully, because the system is currently a patchwork of inefficiency that over time I would want to see Medicaid, Medicare, the Children’s Health Insurance Program (SCHIP)–all those integrated more effectively.

Obama – Public Remarks 4/3/07

“Let’s say that I proposed a plan that moved to a single payer system–Let’s say Medicare plus. Essentially, everybody can buy Medicare, for example…”

“Transitioning a system is a very difficult and costly and lengthy enterprise. It’s not like you can turn on a switch and you go from one system to another. So it’s possible that up front, you wouldn’t need not just– you might need an additional ninety or a hundred billion dollars a year.”

Obama – (SEIU Healthcare Forum) – 3/24/07

“But I don’t think we’re going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There’s going to be potentially some transition process. I can envision a decade out or 15 years out or 20 years out..”

Obama – Public Remarks – 1/27/05

“There’s no denying that part of the solution in the health care arena as we transition and deal with the legacy systems that we’ve inherited will probably require some additional money.”

Flashback Obama s Campaign to Transition to Single Payer Health Care VIDEO - Breitbart

 

[healthmyths]

I've been telling you all along that the ACA was a false flag operation by dimocraps aimed at forcing a single payer plan on the United States.

IOW, it was designed to fail.

BTW, in case you are one of the few that don't follow my posts religiously like you should, I am favor of an ACA-like Health Insurance program in this Country.

I am tired of people who refuse to pay their own way. I am tired of people who refuse to buy Health Insurance and then, when they do get hurt or sick, go to the E Room with zero intention of ever paying their bill -- Which can go into the MILLIONS of dollars.

When you have Socialized Medicine, people. You have socialism. That simple

Here is the Audio --

Obama A Single Payer System Would Be Better than ObamaCare Grabien - The Multimedia Marketplace

YOU know WHAT????

I"M tired of idiots who complain about 18 million people that DON"T WANT or never needed health insurance and used
falsely as the part of 46 million uninsured along with 10 million NON-citizens counted and 14 million who because of the failure
of Medicaid never enrolled. Thus there were less the 4 million that wanted and needed.
Solution? TAX lawyers as ACA taxed tanning salons because fear of lawsuits as 90% of doctors attest cause over $850 billion a year in what is called "defensive medicine"...i.e.calling for duplicate tests,etc. all because of fear of lawsuits.

So insurance companies pay 95% of lawsuits out of court thus simply adding to the premium costs!
10% of lawyers $270 billion would provide the premiums for 5 million that want and need!
LEAVE insurance alone tax the lawyers and watch that $850 billion decline! Proof this would work is found in a 1946 law!

Proof is 90% of physicians surveyed say they order $850 billion a year in wasted duplicate tests, referrals all out of FEAR of being SUED!
Physicians estimate the cost of defensive medicine in US at $650 to $850 billion per year.
--- Emergency medicine, primary care, and OB/GYN physicians are most likely to practice defensive medicine.
--- 79 to 83% of surgeons and OB/GYNs have been named in lawsuits.
BUT BUT !!!!!
"Physicians contracted by the federal government practice significantly less defensive medicine as they are protected against lawsuits by the 1946 Federal Tort Claims Act. "

-- BUT........Only 48% practice defensive medicine compared to 92% of non-government physicians.

Consider that fact that of the physicians interviewed 52% DID NOT practice defensive medicine!
Who were they?
Doctors contracted by federal government!
WHY did these doctors NOT practice "defensive medicine"???
1946 Tort reform!
http://www.jacksonhealthcare.com/media/8968/defensivemedicine_ebook_final.pdf

 

[Claudette]

I've been telling you all along that the ACA was a false flag operation by dimocraps aimed at forcing a single payer plan on the United States.

IOW, it was designed to fail.

BTW, in case you are one of the few that don't follow my posts religiously like you should, I am favor of an ACA-like Health Insurance program in this Country.

I am tired of people who refuse to pay their own way. I am tired of people who refuse to buy Health Insurance and then, when they do get hurt or sick, go to the E Room with zero intention of ever paying their bill -- Which can go into the MILLIONS of dollars.

When you have Socialized Medicine, people. You have socialism. That simple

Here is the Audio --

Obama A Single Payer System Would Be Better than ObamaCare Grabien - The Multimedia Marketplace

I seriously doubt it since the Govt. has never run anything cheaply or well in its entire history.

Everything it touches turns into mountains of red tape, mounds of paperwork, rules and regulations up the ass and I'm sure all with be having long waits.

How anyone could even think that the Govt. could run healthcare for 300 million Americans just boggles the mind.

 

[Votto]

Dims had this planned long before Obama.

They want to slowly withdraw medical care, especially to the teminally ill and aged.

They want us to wind up in the same situation as Vets find themselves in today

 

[rightwinger]

No question single payer would be better than Obamacare

It eliminates the middle man

 

[The Rabbi]

Dims had this planned long before Obama.

They want to slowly withdraw medical care, especially to the teminally ill and aged.

They want us to wind up in the same situation as Vets find themselves in today

Robert Reich is a midget scumbag. No wonder he is an advisor to Obama. Like Gruber. These people are scumbags and assholes.