Obama: “Muslim-Americans Are As Patriotic, And American As Any Other Members Of The American Family”

[Coyote]

I knew I'd get him to trash our military with my post.

Should muslim Major Hassan be trashed? Was he a good American soldier?

He trashed all Muslims in the military.

I'm not trashing Muslims in the military. All Muslim cultists should be removed from all government jobs.

You first sentence is disproved by your second one.

only if all muslims in the military are cultists------------are they?

I doubt it.

One guy, who had red flags for mental illness, is being allowed to define all Muslims in the military.

 

[Redfish]

This thread validates how the left spin and lie and spend most of their time defending Islamofacism.

You've yet to cite a single poster's post defending terrorist acts.

Only about ten thousand posts by leftists and statements by the POTUS who deflect, lie and spin to justify Islamofascism.

Who justified terrorism? Link?

If you condemn radical Islamic terrorism------------say so, NOW

Sure.

I condemn radical Islamic terrorism. This is like about the thousand time I've said it, but like when Muslims condemn religious violence, you guys become deaf.

In addition, unlike many on the right - I condemn ALL terrorism and extremist religious violence.

Do you?

yes, of course I do.

Now, please list and cite the muslim leaders world wide who have come forward and openly condemned terrorism which has been conducted in the name of Islam. Give us the names of the leaders, their country, and exactly what they have said.

You have 3 minutes, starting now-----------------------------------------

 

[Redfish]

Should muslim Major Hassan be trashed? Was he a good American soldier?

He trashed all Muslims in the military.

I'm not trashing Muslims in the military. All Muslim cultists should be removed from all government jobs.

You first sentence is disproved by your second one.

only if all muslims in the military are cultists------------are they?

I doubt it.

One guy, who had red flags for mental illness, is being allowed to define all Muslims in the military.

try to pay attention before posting. I was responding to this from an earlier poster: "Your first sentence is disproved by your second one"

 

[Coyote]

You've yet to cite a single poster's post defending terrorist acts.

Only about ten thousand posts by leftists and statements by the POTUS who deflect, lie and spin to justify Islamofascism.

Who justified terrorism? Link?

If you condemn radical Islamic terrorism------------say so, NOW

Sure.

I condemn radical Islamic terrorism. This is like about the thousand time I've said it, but like when Muslims condemn religious violence, you guys become deaf.

In addition, unlike many on the right - I condemn ALL terrorism and extremist religious violence.

Do you?

yes, of course I do.

Cool, glad to hear some finally say that.

Now, please list and cite the muslim leaders world wide who have come forward and openly condemned terrorism which has been conducted in the name of Islam. Give us the names of the leaders, their country, and exactly what they have said.

You have 3 minutes, starting now-----------------------------------------

Google is your friend. I'm not repeating stuff that I and others have posted repeatedly over the years just because you "demand" it "now"

 

[Redfish]

Only about ten thousand posts by leftists and statements by the POTUS who deflect, lie and spin to justify Islamofascism.

Who justified terrorism? Link?

If you condemn radical Islamic terrorism------------say so, NOW

Sure.

I condemn radical Islamic terrorism. This is like about the thousand time I've said it, but like when Muslims condemn religious violence, you guys become deaf.

In addition, unlike many on the right - I condemn ALL terrorism and extremist religious violence.

Do you?

yes, of course I do.

Cool, glad to hear some finally say that.

Now, please list and cite the muslim leaders world wide who have come forward and openly condemned terrorism which has been conducted in the name of Islam. Give us the names of the leaders, their country, and exactly what they have said.

You have 3 minutes, starting now-----------------------------------------

Google is your friend. I'm not repeating stuff that I and others have posted repeatedly over the years just because you "demand" it "now"

you made the claim, its up to you to make the case. Or you just admit that you made it up.

 

[Coyote]

Who justified terrorism? Link?

If you condemn radical Islamic terrorism------------say so, NOW

Sure.

I condemn radical Islamic terrorism. This is like about the thousand time I've said it, but like when Muslims condemn religious violence, you guys become deaf.

In addition, unlike many on the right - I condemn ALL terrorism and extremist religious violence.

Do you?

yes, of course I do.

Cool, glad to hear some finally say that.

Now, please list and cite the muslim leaders world wide who have come forward and openly condemned terrorism which has been conducted in the name of Islam. Give us the names of the leaders, their country, and exactly what they have said.

You have 3 minutes, starting now-----------------------------------------

Google is your friend. I'm not repeating stuff that I and others have posted repeatedly over the years just because you "demand" it "now"

you made the claim, its up to you to make the case. Or you just admit that you made it up.

Nope. Not any more. It's been done too many times and you're not a newbie to not know that.

I'll help you: muslim leaders denounce violence - Google Search

 

[rightwinger]

The truth about Muslims in America - CNN.com

They're better educated than most Americans
U.S. Muslims have the second-highest level of education among major religious groups in the country; Jews have the highest. And a greater proportion of them have college degrees than the general U.S. population.

 

[Syriusly]

Sunni Man says some pretty rotten things in general.

yet he is occasionally correct.

Is he correct that women should be intimidated into wearing burkas? Is he correct in saying that women should have a male escort at all times? What IS he correct about in your mind?

I pointed out one thing I agree with him on- that the majority of Muslim Americans are patriotic Americans.

I normally disagree with him about everything.

I don't know about that, but it's a chance I don't think WE should have to take. Especially women!

So exactly how do you want to discriminate against Muslim Americans?

I don't want them coming to our country. Perhaps once they catch up with the rest of the world, it would be okay. Until then, no way. Women fought for their freedom here, and we don't want some immigrants threatening us!

So do you propose kicking Muslim Americans out of the United States?

Or just preventing them from re-entering the United States if they dare go to Tijuana for the day?

What exactly do you have against Muslim American women?

 

[rightwinger]

They have more gender equality
While in many parts of the Muslim world, women are confined to second-class status, that's not the case among American Muslims. Virtually all of them, 90%, agree that women should be able to work outside the home. American Muslim women hold more college or postgraduate degrees than Muslim men. And they are more likely to work in professional fields than women from most other U.S. religious groups.

 

[Claudette]

Pres. Obama is correct.

The vast majority of American Muslims are patriotic law abiding citizens who are fully integrated into our society. .......

I'm sure the dead in San Bernardino and Orlando would disagree.

Hell. That asshole in San Bernardino was friends with and worked with the people he killed. Oh and that bitch he was shacked up with pledged her loyalty to ISIS

Guess that assimilation thingy didn't quite work now did it??

 

[rightwinger]

... but they're not as dogmatic as they are portrayed
Much has been made about fundamentalist Muslims and their strict interpretation of the Quran. But most American Muslims are different. A Pew religious landscape survey found that 57% of American Muslims say there is more than one way to interpret Islam's teachings. A similar number say many different religions can lead to eternal life.

 

[rightwinger]

... but they've also spoken out against it
After every terrorist attack at home and abroad, the refrain rises, "Where is the Muslim condemnation?" American Muslims have spoken out -- and done much more. A Duke University study found more terrorism suspects and perpetrators were brought to the attention of law enforcement by members of the Muslim-American community than were discovered through U.S. government investigations. And a Pew survey found that roughly half of U.S. Muslims say their religious leaders aren't speaking out enough against Islamic extremism.

 

[Syriusly]

The nonstop apology tour continues.
After Boston, San Bernadino and Orlando we got to watch the reactions of friends and/or family. About as anti American as you can get.]

Not surprising that a religious bigot like you can't stand it when President Obama stands up for Americans.

No wonder he respects these people- and you despise them.
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If the Muslims are so integrated into American society, why do they have to have a Muslim American Veterans Assn? What is wrong with the VFW or the American Legion? I wonder if non-Muslims can join their Association. Just asking.

So why exactly do you want to discriminate against Muslim American veterans?

And Muslim American children?

 

[Syriusly]

Keeping our society secular- and not allowing religions to determine our laws is so important to the United States.

That's a fine line.. Do not kill is one of the 10 commandments- Our laws derive from a religious founding whether you or any other liberal care to admit it. The Founders understood that laws were created for a MORAL people.

Not really a fine line.

The 10 Commandments have nothing to do with our laws. There were laws against killing before the 10 commandments and laws against killing in societies that having nothing to do with Western religions.

The Bill of Rights were created in part- to protect Americans from religious intollerance.

Islam is more of a cult than a religion.

yeah I hear that a lot from right wing nut jobs.

Over a billion people believe in Islam.

What makes it any more of a 'cult' than Christianity?

Frankly I don't believe in any of their fairy tales but I respect an Americans right to their religion.

Their's is not just a religion. It covers everything, including law making.

Ever read the Old Testament?

It includes law making.

Just because you don't like a religion- and certainly I do not like Islam as practiced by its most extreme and Conservative members- doesn't make it a cult.

 

[Syriusly]

I do not respect his beliefs. His beliefs are outrageously misogynist.

Muslims believe that man and women are biologically different. (sorry Bruce Jenner)

That they have different, but unique roles to play in both life and society.

And that the man / husband's natural position is to be over women and their protector.

I fail to see how that is misogynistic? ......

Most religions have some form of discrimination in them. But I have seen you advocate a paternalism that I have not encountered in American Muslims.

 

[boilermaker55]

It is so hilarious when ignorant asses like yourself have no idea what the hell you are even trying to say.
It is almost impossible for someone to be as low IQ as you are but you defy the odds.
Congrats on being so stupid.

The nonstop apology tour continues.
After Boston, San Bernadino and Orlando we got to watch the reactions of friends and/or family. About as anti American as you can get.
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[Syriusly]

If the Muslims are so integrated into American society, why do they have to have a Muslim American Veterans Assn? What is wrong with the VFW or the American Legion?

You might want to take a look at this and adjust your thinking. ......

"The Jewish War Veterans of the United States of America (also referred to as the Jewish War Veterans of the U.S.A., the Jewish War Veterans, or the JWV) is an American Jewish veterans' organization, and the oldest veterans group in the United States. It has an estimated 37,000 members."

Jewish War Veterans of the United States of America - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Interesting. Established in 1896. Do you have access to the Muslim veterans bylaws and do they have anything like the Jewish group has?

"No person who promotes, or is a member of any organization or group which believes in, or advocates, bigotry or the overthrow of the United States government by force of arms or subversion" shall be eligible for membership.

Active membership may be granted to "any person of the Jewish faith of good character" who is a U.S. citizen and was an active duty member of the U.S. military (including the National Guard and Reserves) in or during any war, campaign, or conflict. The National Constitution also requires that members to have not been discharged under any conditions other than honorable."

Other Veterans groups in the United States:
Catholic War Veterans & Auxiliary | For God, For Country, For Home since 1935
Catholic War Veterans Association
Japanese American Associations

But the only Veterans you question the loyalty of here are Muslim Americans.

Muslim Americans who have risked their lives- and too often sacrificed their lives on behalf of the United States.
Often providing valuable language and cultural skills on missions to the Middle East.

But to you- they are just more Muslims- to be feared and discriminated against.

 

[NYcarbineer]

I knew I'd get him to trash our military with my post.

Should muslim Major Hassan be trashed? Was he a good American soldier?

He trashed all Muslims in the military.

I'm not trashing Muslims in the military. All Muslim cultists should be removed from all government jobs.

You first sentence is disproved by your second one.

only if all muslims in the military are cultists------------are they?

What's a Muslim cultist? Is that like a Mormon?

 

[NYcarbineer]

This thread validates how the left spin and lie and spend most of their time defending Islamofacism.

You've yet to cite a single poster's post defending terrorist acts.

Only about ten thousand posts by leftists and statements by the POTUS who deflect, lie and spin to justify Islamofascism.

And yet you can't name ONE. Can't name ONE out of an accusation of tens of thousands.

 

[NYcarbineer]

No one defended terrorists.

Maybe calling posters terrorists or terrorist sympathizers should be considered comparable to calling posters pedophiles.