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Yeah, I can understand that. I've found that the balance that works for me is just not to engage here. It's pointless. It took a while to be able to do that, because the natural impulse is to respond. But I very much want to understand this. Once I looked into the nature of cults, things began to make more sense.To be honest, the only way I can remain patient is by leaving the board for days on end. Simply giving up, when the purposeful obtuseness gets too much. After a few days, usually when I'm at work and a bit bored, I engage for a few hours, or a few days, and leave again. It would drive me insane otherwise.
Yeah, I can understand that. I've found that the balance that works for me is just not to engage here. It's pointless. It took a while to be able to do that, because the natural impulse is to respond. But I very much want to understand this. Once I looked into the nature of cults, things began to make more sense.
There’s your problem.Mac look into the nature of this:
I voted for Trump twice and never give him a second thought.
You did NOT vote for him and he occupies God only knows how much of your brain
The lack of self-awareness is just.....
Other than to silence him so he won't expose all of the liberals trying to imprison him for nothing. I asked this question in another thread but I wanted to also make a new thread about it to give more people the chance to answer it. (People on the left mostly.) So, anybody got anything?
Edit: (Because I can) Bonus question: Why are they even holding a criminal trial for Trump supposedly cheating on his wife anyways?
There’s your problem.
Unblinking support with no thought involved
Yeah, I can understand that. I've found that the balance that works for me is just not to engage here. It's pointless. It took a while to be able to do that, because the natural impulse is to respond. But I very much want to understand this. Once I looked into the nature of cults, things began to make more sense.
At some point I realized that very few of them (here or in real life) can make an intelligent, articulate argument for this. It's also clear that all we get are rote, boilerplate platitudes, mixed in with juvenile personal attacks. The same thing, over and over and over.For me it's to put anyone on ignore who insults. That's almost an automatic. Then those who consistently write complete nonsense, if I can't cope with their nonsense, I'll put there on ignore too.
It leads to a lot less people to engage with, but every so often you get into a good conversation that might last a few days or up to a week. If it doesn't happen, I just don't worry about it. I say what I want to say, I get out of pointless conversations quickly.
Mostly I'm here so I have a reason to do my own research, make my own arguments. If I make one and nobody replies, I might have learned something from it.
The thing that depresses me so much is that so many people are so unwilling to even bother having a decent conversation. Talking "politics" for them is the same as having a wank, or watching TikTok, as far as I can tell.
At some point I realized that very few of them (here or in real life) can make an intelligent, articulute argument for this. It's also clear that all we get are rote, boilerplate platitudes, mixed in with juvenile personal attacks. The same thing, over and over and over.
I believe it's because that's what they're consuming 24/7/365 in their world. That's as deep as it gets, because a talk radio show or a podcast or an "article" is only going to go so deep. Prod them for some kind of synthesis and you get absolutely nothing.
And there's the problem. As I've said a zillion times, this has never been about Trump. This is sociological. Cults aren't about the leader, they're about the need. There's a much bigger story here, about this country.
Yeah, they put a great deal of effort trying to turn a point back around, whether it remotely makes sense or not.Yes. There was a comment on Facebook yesterday. It went something like "back in the day you got your news, it was fact, and you had to make up your own opinion. These days they just tell you what to think"
And I went in and was like "this is ridiculous, the media was heavily bent on telling people how to think in the past and there was no social media to tell you that you were being manipulated."
Then I essentially said in the modern era some guy (invisible behind the internet, and might be a woman, but probably a guy, like Putin, Xi, the Koch brothers may the dead one Rot In Patches) is telling them "look, they're manipulating you" all the while telling people what to think, and the people think they're smart because they've seen the manipulator and they're not listening to that person, they're thinking for themselves by repeating word for word what the other dude told them to think.
The best is when (and how often does it happen) they say "it's only the other side that's being manipulated, not my side, or me".
He is being pursued in a way that no normal person would be.Because he’s getting breaks no normal person would get
No, you don't to do that: overruled. The Judge and the law is in charge, of MAGAs as well as everybody else. And you have been answered over and over, so no, not once more.
Ex-DOJ Official Stunned By Trump Hand Gesture In Court: ‘Can’t Begin To Fathom’
Neal Katyal also summed up the latest defense by the former president's legal team in his hush money trial as "atrocious."www.huffpost.com
“That’s not the issue,” Katyal added. “Of course, if you pay a lawyer generally, that’s a legal expense, but not if you’re doing it for other things that aren’t legal expenses. If I pay a lawyer to give me some cocaine, I can’t say, ‘Oh, it’s a legal payment and therefore it’s all hunky-dory.’ Of course not.”
Horseshit.Talking about the judges daughter in any way is not self defense
How about paying a lawyer to pay a foreign spy to dig up dirt on a political opponent?Ex-DOJ Official Stunned By Trump Hand Gesture In Court: ‘Can’t Begin To Fathom’
Neal Katyal also summed up the latest defense by the former president's legal team in his hush money trial as "atrocious."
“That’s not the issue,” Katyal added. “Of course, if you pay a lawyer generally, that’s a legal expense, but not if you’re doing it for other things that aren’t legal expenses. If I pay a lawyer to give me some cocaine, I can’t say, ‘Oh, it’s a legal payment and therefore it’s all hunky-dory.’ Of course not.”
At some point I realized that very few of them (here or in real life) can make an intelligent, articulate argument for this. It's also clear that all we get are rote, boilerplate platitudes, mixed in with juvenile personal attacks. The same thing, over and over and over.
I believe it's because that's what they're consuming 24/7/365 in their world. That's as deep as it gets, because a talk radio show or a podcast or an "article" is only going to go so deep. Prod them for some kind of independent synthesis and you get absolutely nothing.
And there's the problem. As I've said a zillion times, this has never been about Trump. This is sociological. Cults aren't about the leader, they're about the need. There's a much bigger story here, about this country.
Right, because buying and selling cocaine is illegal.Ex-DOJ Official Stunned By Trump Hand Gesture In Court: ‘Can’t Begin To Fathom’
Neal Katyal also summed up the latest defense by the former president's legal team in his hush money trial as "atrocious."
“That’s not the issue,” Katyal added. “Of course, if you pay a lawyer generally, that’s a legal expense, but not if you’re doing it for other things that aren’t legal expenses. If I pay a lawyer to give me some cocaine, I can’t say, ‘Oh, it’s a legal payment and therefore it’s all hunky-dory.’ Of course not.”
I got a better idea. Show me another defendant who's been treated like Trump.
He hasn’t vacated anything. He’s bent over backwards for Donny. You or I would be in jail after the first infraction; Trump has ten!Comrade
Real judges don’t vacate rights
