Obama: More Clean Than Articulate

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  1. HoleInTheVoid
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    Is the bailout good or bad?

    I know! Let's ask somebody who is super-duper smarterish than we are.

    Whoops! All we have is Obama.

    Jonathan Martin's Blog: Obama outraged at being accused of not supporting something he doesn't support - Politico.com


    Actually L'il 'O has decided to not interfere with Businomics:

    Obama supports U.S. economic recovery efforts - Yahoo! News

    Far be it for me to play the cynic...

    ...BUT...

    ...methink L'il 'O is voting presently present so he can game the outcome of the bailout. If it works he can claim credit for it like the Stimulus Package he claimed was his and the expense of losing the "worst economic policy since the Depression" meme.

    If the bailout falters he can deny ever having supported it.

    All in all he's playing with people's livelihoods for personal gain and he is wholly without principle or scruples. Not to mention he's not nearly as smart as people want to believe he is.
     
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    either way

    it beat the hell of blowing in the wind express.

    sure mccain was against regulations


    but now he's for them.

    bailout or no bailout

    it was the failure of regulators that got us to this brink of financial ruin.
     
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    Actually McCain--who I am no big fan of--sounded the alarm in 2005.

    But how can L'il 'O pretend to be ready for a big people's job when he can't even make a decision as it happens? It's the same pattern as his stammering response on Russia.
     
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    His supporters know he is an idiot,but they are stuck with him now. Why do ya think they are soooo pissed off :D
     
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    It's amazing the conservatives carp about Bush and McCain using tax moeny to buttress businesses that should be allowed to die a natural death.

    But liberals can't conjure the intellectual honesty to:

    A) damn L'il 'O for agreeing with Bush after spending so much energy attacking "Bush's economy"

    B) applaud Bush for caving to the socialized business bailouts that should make any leftist proud
     
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    Those businesses can't be allowed to fail. That's the point and it's been made by posters of various political persuasions in various threads. To suggest they should be allowed to fail is to fall victim to blind ideology.

    The pragmatic, as opposed to ideological, response is to bail them out. They've been nationalised for a while. They will be broken up and sold off to recover moneys spent.

    Obama can do nothing about what's happening right now. He can push Congress (if he wins the presidency) to re-regulate so this madness doesn't occur again.

    I mean he's not a socialist so he will seek to correct and protect Wall Street.
     
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    I think Obama is making sense. We don't even know what the bailout plan is yet. Will there be enough transparency so that we are assured we are not just channeling taxpayer's money into CEO golden parachutes?

    I don't know about you guys on the right, but that's something that I'd like to know.

    No sense in saying yes to a plan that you haven't yet been presented with.
     
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    So much for the "leadership" and "ready on Day 1" meme.
     
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    So you like McCain's solution, just hand over 700 billion to corporate America with no strings attached? With a nice hefty tax cut for the rich thrown in?

    I'd prefer to see what the Treasury and the Fed presents before agreeing to it.

    Leadership means listening to your experts before making a decision, something Republicans have always had trouble with.
     
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    Do I like it? No.

    No strings attached? I seriously doubt that argument can be supported.

    Yeah. We know. It's above his paygrade.

    You people have sputtering orgasms declaring a VP (as opposed to P) candidate unfit for office because some interviewer doesn't even know WTF it is he's asking questions about but when Obama and his fistful of Fannie Mae millionaires whistle past the graveyard you call it LEE-DUR-SHIP.
     

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