Obama lowered taxes..not raised them.

[kiwiman127]

Of course they didn't notice it. You listen to something long enough, and you're gullible enough, You'll believe it. The lie that Obama has raised taxes is one widely believed by Conservatives. It's amazing how they react when shown proof of the exact opposite. It's like..
Is the Health care reform bill a tax or is it not? I know you don't pay preminums but for those of us who do they went up up up up .. up DUMMIE

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And healthcare premiums never went up before?????
According to the Kaiser Foundation, as of 2009 healthcare insurance premiums went up 131% during the previous decade.

 

[DiveCon]

wait you came out with " no I'm not you are"

Sorry your a genius, I bet you went to Harvard

if you actually believe Obama cut your taxes by reducing the rate of withholding, then i doubt your level of claimed education

don't go into the accounting if your fucking clueless divedouche, lowering witholding is not reducing the rate. Not sure who said it was.

thats the whole premise of this thread, dipshit
didnt you actually READ it?

 

[DiveCon]

Is the Health care reform bill a tax or is it not? I know you don't pay preminums but for those of us who do they went up up up up .. up DUMMIE

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And healthcare premiums never went up before?????
According to the Kaiser Foundation, as of 2009 healthcare insurance premiums went up 131% during the previous decade.

the point was that Obamacare was supposed to LOWER the costs

 

[kiwiman127]

Is the Health care reform bill a tax or is it not? I know you don't pay preminums but for those of us who do they went up up up up .. up DUMMIE

========================
And healthcare premiums never went up before?????
According to the Kaiser Foundation, as of 2009 healthcare insurance premiums went up 131% during the previous decade.

the point was that Obamacare was supposed to LOWER the costs

It's kinda hard for Obamacare to lower the costs when the costs are determined by the healthcare industry,,,unless you want real socialism.
And yeah, I know what Obama more or less promised. Like 99.9% of all politicians he promised too much. An example of a worse promise, was the projected cost of going into Iraq.
Anyway, I thought I should correct someone's crying and moaning about the fact that healthcare costs went up,,like it was something new.

 

[DiveCon]

========================
And healthcare premiums never went up before?????
According to the Kaiser Foundation, as of 2009 healthcare insurance premiums went up 131% during the previous decade.

the point was that Obamacare was supposed to LOWER the costs

It's kinda hard for Obamacare to lower the costs when the costs are determined by the healthcare industry,,,unless you want real socialism.
And yeah, I know what Obama more or less promised. Like 99.9% of all politicians he promised too much. An example of a worse promise, was the projected cost of going into Iraq.
Anyway, I thought I should correct someone's crying and moaning about the fact that healthcare costs went up,,like it was something new.

i never trust ANY politicians claims on what a government project will cost

anyone that pays any attention at all knows they NEVER get done at what we're told they will cost at the onset

 

[topspin]

if you actually believe Obama cut your taxes by reducing the rate of withholding, then i doubt your level of claimed education

don't go into the accounting if your fucking clueless divedouche, lowering witholding is not reducing the rate. Not sure who said it was.

thats the whole premise of this thread, dipshit
didnt you actually READ it?

your dumb enough to believe it

 

[DiveCon]

don't go into the accounting if your fucking clueless divedouche, lowering witholding is not reducing the rate. Not sure who said it was.

thats the whole premise of this thread, dipshit
didnt you actually READ it?

your dumb enough to believe it

are you just totally insane?
wait, you are
nevermind

 

[Queen]

The middle class tax cuts won't be extended, and their sycophants here will defend it.

Count on it.

They won't be extended because the republicans blocked the extention!

And if you mean the con sycophants here will defend that, you're right. You will.

 

[Queen]

Repubs will take away your food stamps and welfare

Repubs will take away your SS

LOL!!! Democrats don't use that to scare voters. Republicans freely state that all the time!!

 

[Queen]

vote for republicans and black churches will burn

republicans want children to starve
republicans want to throw gramma from her house

I've never heard any of those. You made them up.

thanks for showing what a fucking idiot you are

hell, you have it in your SIG, moron

So you admit you have no proof or source and that you made it all up. OK! I thought so!

 

[Queen]

Conservatives have been claiming that Obama is "about to" raise taxes for the last 2 years.

None of this has happened yet. The Bush tax cuts for people making less than 200,000 a year will be extended by a lame-duck session. 98% of Americans will not see a tax increase on 1/1/11.

no, what they will see is a decrease in income as those making over $200K wont be able to afford to PAY them

If the Bush tax cuts for people making over 200,000 expire, a person making 250,000 dollars a year will owe less than 300 dollars more than they did last year.

And hundreds of thousands of jobs won't be created because of it!!!!!

/conservative hyperbole and twisted thinking

 

[Queen]

Lowering taxes might be considered communist...since communists don't pay taxes..

Hmm..new Republican slogan?

Obama lowered your TAXES. Soon You will be paying NO TAXES. LIKE COMMIES!!!

he didnt lower taxes
stop with that lie already

Just because you keep repeating this conservative propaganda, doesn't make it so.

Here's the facts. If you care at all about reality.....

President Obama will sign the $787 billion stimulus package into law this week, with approximately 35% going towards tax cuts and the rest going towards stimulus spending. Just about everyone stands to benefit from the stimulus in some fashion in the short-term, but a few demographics have an opportunity to reap more gains than others. Here is a list of seven groups of Americans who stand to gain the most from the soon to be enacted stimulus package.

1. Wage Earners & the Self-Employed
Wage earners and the self-employed are eligible for up to $400 a year for single taxpayers and up to $800 for couples filing jointly in both 2009 and 2010. If you are single, the credit starts to phase out at an adjusted gross income of $75,000. If you are part of a couple filing jointly, your phaseout would begin at $150,000 of adjusted gross income. You’re probably wondering when the check will arrive. It won’t. The IRS will begin reducing withholding taxes automatically at the clip of about $30-$40 a month. If you are self-employed, you can claim your credit when you file your return for 2009.

2. First-Time Homebuyers
Thinking of buying your first house? Although the oft-mentioned $15,000 credit for all home purchases was dropped from the final stimulus package, first-time home buyers can still claim a tax credit of up to $8,000 if the home is purchased between January 1st and December 1st of this year. If you purchase between these dates, you won’t have to repay the credit, as those who purchased in 2008 are required to. This is only for primary residences and the house cannot be sold within 3 years in order to keep the credit. Huge bummer for aspiring house flippers.

3. Home-Owners Looking to Improve Home Energy-Efficiency
If you’ve been thinking of adding new windows, an outer door, insulation, or other energy-efficient improvements around the house, this might be a smart year to do so. The max energy-efficiency credit has been raised from $500 to $1,500, and from 10% of the project’s cost to 30%. Additional purchases include energy efficient appliances such as air conditioners and water heaters. Before making a purchase, make sure the product is eligible for the credit.

4. Vehicle Buyers
If you purchase a new car, light truck, SUV, motorcycle, or RV after the package has been signed, you are able to deduct state and local sales or excise tax on the first $49,500 of the vehicle’s cost. This deduction starts to phase out for single taxpayers with adjusted gross incomes over $125,000 and couples over $250,000. You get the deduction whether or not you itemize on your return. If you’re in the market for a plug-in hybrid, you could benefit from a credit of at least $2,500 on up to $7,500.

5. Students
The American Opportunity (formerly known as HOPE) credit for college expenses will increase from $1,800 to $2,500 in both 2009 and 2010. The credit covers 100% of the first $2,000 of tuition and related expenses per year and 25% of the next $2,000. This credit has also been extended from two to four years of college and can now count against book purchases. Credits are phased out for singles earning over $80,000, and married couples earning $160,000.

6. The Unemployed
Have you been laid off recently? Take some solace in knowing that the first $2,400 in unemployment benefits received can now be excluded from income. Additionally, you may also be eligible for a 65% subsidy for up to 9 months if you stay on your former employers health insurance policy. You will also start to receive a $25 weekly increase in your benefit check.

If you’ve been worried that your 26 weeks of unemployment benefits were almost up, you may now benefit from up to an additional 33 weeks through the end of the year. Check with your local unemployment office for further clarification.

7. Middle Classers Scheduled to Get an AMT Tax Hit
Middle classers can expect a $500 increase in the AMT exemption for individuals, to $46,700, and a $1,000 increase for couples, up to $70,950. This temporary fix is thought to free 26 million families from the AMT in 2009.

Obama's Stimulus Package - Benefits in Reduced Taxes, First Time Home Buyers and Owners | MintLife Blog | Personal Finance News & Advice

 

[Queen]

"if you vote for the democrats, we will be attacked again".

umm.... We have been attacked several times. Anyone remember Ft Hood, Times Square, "underwear" bomber, ... Did i miss one?

democrats will raise your taxes.
this will happen.... I guarantee it

democrats will have the government pay for partial birth abortions.
its in the healthcare bill

democrats are socialists/marxist/communist.....
have you seen the czars and several other members of his administration?


fail!

Are you claiming we were attacked again because we voted for the democrats? You're crazy as a loon! LOL!!!

You also think you can see the future? Awesome.

Czars were coined during the Reagan admin. There's really no such thing as a czar in the US government. It's just a name the media uses. Get a clue dude.

 

[Queen]

Of course Republicans had a chance to compromise on the sunset of the unfunded Bush tax cuts for the wealthy.

When they expire they expire for everyone.

Democrats were more then happy to compromise and leave them for 95% of the electorate.

Republicans refused. They are the party of NO. And No compromise.

They filibustered the vote to extend the tax cuts for the working people, then they blame the Democrats for not extending it.

The Republicans in congress are as dishonest as their voters. Or maybe their voters are just too stupid to know they are being lied to.

 

[Queen]

He will raise them as nobody else has ever before on January 1.

The Republicans made the tax cuts expire when they wrote the bill during the Bush admin. The tax cuts are all deficit spending. They add to our national debt.

And when they expire, as the Republicans originally planned for them to do, the Republicans are going to blame the Democrats for raising taxes.

This is the dishonest party you're carrying water for. How does it feel to be a liar lover?

 

[DiveCon]

I've never heard any of those. You made them up.

thanks for showing what a fucking idiot you are

hell, you have it in your SIG, moron

So you admit you have no proof or source and that you made it all up. OK! I thought so!

hey stupid, read your own damn sig

 

[DiveCon]

Lowering taxes might be considered communist...since communists don't pay taxes..

Hmm..new Republican slogan?

Obama lowered your TAXES. Soon You will be paying NO TAXES. LIKE COMMIES!!!

he didnt lower taxes
stop with that lie already

Just because you keep repeating this conservative propaganda, doesn't make it so.

Here's the facts. If you care at all about reality.....

President Obama will sign the $787 billion stimulus package into law this week, with approximately 35% going towards tax cuts and the rest going towards stimulus spending. Just about everyone stands to benefit from the stimulus in some fashion in the short-term, but a few demographics have an opportunity to reap more gains than others. Here is a list of seven groups of Americans who stand to gain the most from the soon to be enacted stimulus package.

1. Wage Earners & the Self-Employed
Wage earners and the self-employed are eligible for up to $400 a year for single taxpayers and up to $800 for couples filing jointly in both 2009 and 2010. If you are single, the credit starts to phase out at an adjusted gross income of $75,000. If you are part of a couple filing jointly, your phaseout would begin at $150,000 of adjusted gross income. You’re probably wondering when the check will arrive. It won’t. The IRS will begin reducing withholding taxes automatically at the clip of about $30-$40 a month. If you are self-employed, you can claim your credit when you file your return for 2009.

2. First-Time Homebuyers
Thinking of buying your first house? Although the oft-mentioned $15,000 credit for all home purchases was dropped from the final stimulus package, first-time home buyers can still claim a tax credit of up to $8,000 if the home is purchased between January 1st and December 1st of this year. If you purchase between these dates, you won’t have to repay the credit, as those who purchased in 2008 are required to. This is only for primary residences and the house cannot be sold within 3 years in order to keep the credit. Huge bummer for aspiring house flippers.

3. Home-Owners Looking to Improve Home Energy-Efficiency
If you’ve been thinking of adding new windows, an outer door, insulation, or other energy-efficient improvements around the house, this might be a smart year to do so. The max energy-efficiency credit has been raised from $500 to $1,500, and from 10% of the project’s cost to 30%. Additional purchases include energy efficient appliances such as air conditioners and water heaters. Before making a purchase, make sure the product is eligible for the credit.

4. Vehicle Buyers
If you purchase a new car, light truck, SUV, motorcycle, or RV after the package has been signed, you are able to deduct state and local sales or excise tax on the first $49,500 of the vehicle’s cost. This deduction starts to phase out for single taxpayers with adjusted gross incomes over $125,000 and couples over $250,000. You get the deduction whether or not you itemize on your return. If you’re in the market for a plug-in hybrid, you could benefit from a credit of at least $2,500 on up to $7,500.

5. Students
The American Opportunity (formerly known as HOPE) credit for college expenses will increase from $1,800 to $2,500 in both 2009 and 2010. The credit covers 100% of the first $2,000 of tuition and related expenses per year and 25% of the next $2,000. This credit has also been extended from two to four years of college and can now count against book purchases. Credits are phased out for singles earning over $80,000, and married couples earning $160,000.

6. The Unemployed
Have you been laid off recently? Take some solace in knowing that the first $2,400 in unemployment benefits received can now be excluded from income. Additionally, you may also be eligible for a 65% subsidy for up to 9 months if you stay on your former employers health insurance policy. You will also start to receive a $25 weekly increase in your benefit check.

If you’ve been worried that your 26 weeks of unemployment benefits were almost up, you may now benefit from up to an additional 33 weeks through the end of the year. Check with your local unemployment office for further clarification.

7. Middle Classers Scheduled to Get an AMT Tax Hit
Middle classers can expect a $500 increase in the AMT exemption for individuals, to $46,700, and a $1,000 increase for couples, up to $70,950. This temporary fix is thought to free 26 million families from the AMT in 2009.

Obama's Stimulus Package - Benefits in Reduced Taxes, First Time Home Buyers and Owners | MintLife Blog | Personal Finance News & Advice

you call that a tax cut?
LOL
you are pathetically STUPID

 

[Charles_Main]

He hasn't lowered anyone's marginal rates. Game over.

 

[topspin]

Divedouche failed highschool home economics.

 

[DiveCon]

Divedouche failed highschool home economics.

you are a fucking moronic idiot