Obama does not have power to make nuke deal with Iran!

johnwk

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SEE: Obama Sees an Iran Deal That Could Avoid Congress

OCT. 19, 2014

”The Treasury Department, in a detailed study it declined to make public, has concluded Mr. Obama has the authority to suspend the vast majority of those sanctions without seeking a vote by Congress, officials say.”

The Treasury Department can say anything it wants to say but nowhere in our Constitution has our Executive branch of government been granted authority to make “deals” with foreign nations without the Senate’s approval, and the language in our Constitution is crystal clear: "The President ... shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur." Additionally, there is nothing in our Constitution allowing the Senate to re-assign its requirement to “concur” with any “deal” negotiated by our President. And Hamilton, in Federalist No. 75, explains why the President was not granted an arbitrary power to make “CONTRACTS with foreign nations, which have the force of law.” He “might sometimes be under temptations to sacrifice his duty to his interest, which it would require superlative virtue to withstand. An avaricious man might be tempted to betray the interests of the state to the acquisition of wealth. An ambitious man might make his own aggrandizement, by the aid of a foreign power, the price of his treachery to his constituents. The history of human conduct does not warrant that exalted opinion of human virtue which would make it wise in a nation to commit interests of so delicate and momentous a kind, as those which concern its intercourse with the rest of the world, to the sole disposal of a magistrate created and circumstanced as would be a President of the United States.”


Aside from the clear language in our Constitution requiring the Senate to concur with any deal negotiated by our President, and the expressed intentions stated by Hamilton for requiring the Senate’s approval, Townhall tells us How Obama Will Bypass Congress On His Iranian Nuclear Arms Deal: Obama will claim that his deal with Iran is not a treaty but a "sole executive agreement" that requires no approval from Congress. Of course, there is no such authority found in our Constitution granting a “sole executive agreement” power to the executive, and as Hamilton defines the treaty making power as a contract with a foreign nation which has the “force of law”, any deal negotiated with Iran by our President must be approved of by the Senate as commanded by our Constitution!

So why is FoxNews saying “The question now is whether lawmakers would be able to throw up any roadblocks to a potential Iran agreement.”? SEE: Netanyahu makes last-ditch bid to stop Obama from doing nuke deal with Iran

To even suggest that Obama has authority to finalize a deal with Iran without the Senate’s approve is very, very suspicious indeed!

JWK


The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47
 
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JohnWK can say anything he wants to say "but nowhere in our Constitution has" JohnWK began given power to decide what the Constitution says. Just saying.
 
JohnWK can say anything he wants to say "but nowhere in our Constitution has" JohnWK began given power to decide what the Constitution says. Just saying.
Yup, the "I hate Obama just because" crowd will twist and turn anything and everything Obama says or does "just because". Just like the opposite side did with Bush.
As for whether something is specifically stated in the constitution or not is not always applicable in all situations.
Heck nowhere in the Constitution is Executive Privileged mentioned but George Washington set the precedent and the standard in which it can be utilized and has actually been kept within that standard with the constant push and pull between the Legislative and Executive since Washington first used it.
However attempting to use Executive Privilege in this situation does not meet the standard.
 
SEE: Obama Sees an Iran Deal That Could Avoid Congress

OCT. 19, 2014

”The Treasury Department, in a detailed study it declined to make public, has concluded Mr. Obama has the authority to suspend the vast majority of those sanctions without seeking a vote by Congress, officials say.”

The Treasury Department can say anything it wants to say but nowhere in our Constitution has our Executive branch of government been granted authority to make “deals” with foreign nations without the Senate’s approval, and the language in our Constitution is crystal clear: "The President ... shall have Power, by and with the Advice and Consent of the Senate, to make Treaties, provided two thirds of the Senators present concur." Additionally, there is nothing in our Constitution allowing the Senate to re-assign its requirement to “concur” with any “deal” negotiated by our President. And Hamilton, in Federalist No. 75, explains why the President was not granted an arbitrary power to make “CONTRACTS with foreign nations, which have the force of law.” He “might sometimes be under temptations to sacrifice his duty to his interest, which it would require superlative virtue to withstand. An avaricious man might be tempted to betray the interests of the state to the acquisition of wealth. An ambitious man might make his own aggrandizement, by the aid of a foreign power, the price of his treachery to his constituents. The history of human conduct does not warrant that exalted opinion of human virtue which would make it wise in a nation to commit interests of so delicate and momentous a kind, as those which concern its intercourse with the rest of the world, to the sole disposal of a magistrate created and circumstanced as would be a President of the United States.”


Aside from the clear language in our Constitution requiring the Senate to concur with any deal negotiated by our President, and the expressed intentions stated by Hamilton for requiring the Senate’s approval, Townhall tells us How Obama Will Bypass Congress On His Iranian Nuclear Arms Deal: Obama will claim that his deal with Iran is not a treaty but a "sole executive agreement" that requires no approval from Congress. Of course, there is no such authority found in our Constitution granting a “sole executive agreement” power to the executive, and as Hamilton defines the treaty making power as a contract with a foreign nation which has the “force of law”, any deal negotiated with Iran by our President must be approved of by the Senate as commanded by our Constitution!

So why is FoxNews saying “The question now is whether lawmakers would be able to throw up any roadblocks to a potential Iran agreement.”? SEE: Netanyahu makes last-ditch bid to stop Obama from doing nuke deal with Iran

To even suggest that Obama has authority to finalize a deal with Iran without the Senate’s approve is very, very suspicious indeed!

JWK


The accumulation of all powers, legislative, executive, and judiciary, in the same hands, whether of one, a few, or many, and whether hereditary, self-appointed, or elective, may justly be pronounced the very definition of tyranny. ___ Madison, Federalist Paper No. 47
Worse yet he hath neither the experience, the brains, the leadership nor the advisers to make an airtight deal. He said if HE signs the deal HE will guarantee its the best deal available. What in his record makes you confident in that? Obamacare?
 
To even suggest that Obama has authority to finalize a deal with Iran without the Senate’s approve is very, very suspicious indeed!

JWK

Then why did we elect him dictator? Only Republicans need Senate approval, that's what the Constitution says.
 
In truth if Obama chooses this "option" it would be a serious violation (overreach) of Executive Privilege. If he doesn't go that route then this argument is a moot point. :dunno:

Yo, "IF," He has already over-reached in the past! He is a wannabe Dictator in his childish mind! He will do anything he wants, nobody is going to do nothing, only because he is BLACK, period! The "Racist" word would be used if they impeach him? Plus the Radical Left would not vote to impeach!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
:cuckoo:
 
In truth if Obama chooses this "option" it would be a serious violation (overreach) of Executive Privilege. If he doesn't go that route then this argument is a moot point. :dunno:

Yo, "IF," He has already over-reached in the past! He is a wannabe Dictator in his childish mind! He will do anything he wants, nobody is going to do nothing, only because he is BLACK, period! The "Racist" word would be used if they impeach him? Plus the Radical Left would not vote to impeach!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
:cuckoo:
tinfoil-HAt2.gif
 
In truth if Obama chooses this "option" it would be a serious violation (overreach) of Executive Privilege. If he doesn't go that route then this argument is a moot point. :dunno:

Yo, "IF," He has already over-reached in the past! He is a wannabe Dictator in his childish mind! He will do anything he wants, nobody is going to do nothing, only because he is BLACK, period! The "Racist" word would be used if they impeach him? Plus the Radical Left would not vote to impeach!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
:cuckoo:
tinfoil-HAt2.gif

Yo,
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"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
 
So much stupidity, so little time.

I see the retards are unaware that many of the US sanctions against Iran were enacted by...












Wait for iiiiiiiit...








































Executive Order.

For instance Dictator President Ronald Reagan issued EO 12613 prohibiting the importation and exportation of goods and services from Iran.
 
In truth if Obama chooses this "option" it would be a serious violation (overreach) of Executive Privilege. If he doesn't go that route then this argument is a moot point. :dunno:

Yo, "IF," He has already over-reached in the past! He is a wannabe Dictator in his childish mind! He will do anything he wants, nobody is going to do nothing, only because he is BLACK, period! The "Racist" word would be used if they impeach him? Plus the Radical Left would not vote to impeach!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
:cuckoo:
tinfoil-HAt2.gif

Yo,
View attachment 37439
"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
Who's the Marxist-Liberal? Ooohh, you're referring to me because I don't toe your far right political line...... Got it. :lmao:
 
In truth if Obama chooses this "option" it would be a serious violation (overreach) of Executive Privilege. If he doesn't go that route then this argument is a moot point. :dunno:

Yo, "IF," He has already over-reached in the past! He is a wannabe Dictator in his childish mind! He will do anything he wants, nobody is going to do nothing, only because he is BLACK, period! The "Racist" word would be used if they impeach him? Plus the Radical Left would not vote to impeach!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
:cuckoo:
tinfoil-HAt2.gif

Yo,
View attachment 37439
"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
Who's the Marxist-Liberal? Ooohh, you're referring to me because I don't toe your far right political line...... Got it. :lmao:

Yo, if the shoe fits? I say wear it!!!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
 
So much stupidity, so little time.

I see the retards are unaware that many of the US sanctions against Iran were enacted by...












Wait for iiiiiiiit...








































Executive Order.

For instance Dictator President Ronald Reagan issued EO 12613 prohibiting the importation and exportation of goods and services from Iran.
Uuuummmmm, the gist of the discussion is the possibility of Obama using Executive Privilege to basically enact a treaty thus bypassing congress....... Maybe you missed that part amongst the OP's sidetracked rants? :dunno:
 
In truth if Obama chooses this "option" it would be a serious violation (overreach) of Executive Privilege. If he doesn't go that route then this argument is a moot point. :dunno:

Yo, "IF," He has already over-reached in the past! He is a wannabe Dictator in his childish mind! He will do anything he wants, nobody is going to do nothing, only because he is BLACK, period! The "Racist" word would be used if they impeach him? Plus the Radical Left would not vote to impeach!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
:cuckoo:
tinfoil-HAt2.gif

Yo,
View attachment 37439
"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
Who's the Marxist-Liberal? Ooohh, you're referring to me because I don't toe your far right political line...... Got it. :lmao:

Yo, if the shoe fits? I say wear it!!!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
Actually in your case the tinfoil hat fits perfectly, don't you think so General Scott? :eusa_whistle:.
 
In truth if Obama chooses this "option" it would be a serious violation (overreach) of Executive Privilege. If he doesn't go that route then this argument is a moot point. :dunno:

Yo, "IF," He has already over-reached in the past! He is a wannabe Dictator in his childish mind! He will do anything he wants, nobody is going to do nothing, only because he is BLACK, period! The "Racist" word would be used if they impeach him? Plus the Radical Left would not vote to impeach!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
:cuckoo:

Yes he does. He considers America the enemy of the world and that is why he is seeking to destroy her, through his policies and shredding of the Constitution.. The media have been helping him for six years +.
 
Yo, "IF," He has already over-reached in the past! He is a wannabe Dictator in his childish mind! He will do anything he wants, nobody is going to do nothing, only because he is BLACK, period! The "Racist" word would be used if they impeach him? Plus the Radical Left would not vote to impeach!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
:cuckoo:
tinfoil-HAt2.gif

Yo,
View attachment 37439
"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
Who's the Marxist-Liberal? Ooohh, you're referring to me because I don't toe your far right political line...... Got it. :lmao:

Yo, if the shoe fits? I say wear it!!!

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
Actually in your case the tinfoil hat fits perfectly, don't you think so General Scott? :eusa_whistle:.

Yo, your BOY!
Barack-Obama-in-Dunce-Hat-Writing-on-Blackboard-70299.jpg

"GTP"

"OBAMA HATES AMERICA"
 
I wonder if there is any action Obama can take that lib/progressives would say violates the Constitution.
 

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