Obama and the Military

Discussion in 'Military' started by Indiana Oracle, Mar 19, 2009.

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    I was in the Army 1964-1974 and my family has served for generations. I remember vividly what the Left in this country stirred up during the Vietnam period. Will not dredge it all up again or relate what happened to me an others when I returned at the end of 1968, but this latest misadventure of the Obama administration to transfer wounded veterans' healthcare to their responsibility is, as The Prophet would say, "deeply disappointing".

    Putting aside the details, motivations and that it now appears to be off the table, think about the mentality of an administration that would let this kind of thing even be openly considered.

    The sophism, cyncism, and arrogance of Obama and his crowd has finally reached me. Am going to start a message forum, and call him out at every turn.
     
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    Obama is a politician of the ultra left wing sort. He hates the military, loves taxes, loves to spend money, and isn't afraid to screw anybody. I wouldn't piss on the ass plug if he was on fire... and that's coming from a service connected veteran that he's trying to fuck over. I'd spit in his face if I ever got close enough.
     
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    and i would hold the fucker for ya PR.....so he cant squirm away.....
     
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    Stop whining- free health care is for socialists. Don't like paying? Move to Russia!



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    He's showing his true colors. Fuck us vets. We got screwed up on our own and should pay for it ourselves. Had nothing to do with serving this nation.
     
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    Providing for our servicemen is one of the very few things the constitution empowers the federal government to do, and yet it's been the only thing so far that Obama DOESN'T want to pay for. Maybe if our vets dye their uniforms to UN blue Obama won't mind the expense so much.
     
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    You folks are a bunch of ignorant, partisan, dumb asses. I'm not an Obama supporter but if you've got some kind of gripe, can you at least make it an honest gripe ?

    The plan that was being considered was:


    The aim was to provide MORE for veterans care. Fucking morons.


    When veterans voiced their concerns, HE LISTENED TO THEM. WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU WANT FROM THE GUY ?

    I've tried to keep my distance from the politcal forum a bit because you people are fucking stupid. But this takes the God Damned cake.

    You'll get what you deserve....fucking morons.
     
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    This idea was intended to apply only to wounded veterans. Their own insurance would have to pick up their medical expenses for wounds received in action. We might give the Obama team the benefit of the doubt and assume that if the veteran was uninsured, the VA system would still pick up the tab.

    This is a way to transfer those medical costs to the civilian medical system and save the government system the cost of providing those benefits. But this would make it difficult for people serving in the reserves to get health insurance policies and would definitely drive up their premiums. It also would make the hiring and retention of veterans in civilian employment less competitive compared to non vet employees. There would have to be other unintended consequences as well.

    What this should suggest to us all is that the Obama Administration will have many schemes to save the government money without regard to the little people they will surely impact.

    Let’s hope that the Republicans in Congress will be vigilant. Already certain regulations will impact elderly health care and nursing home subsistence levels. They will have the effect of squeezing every dollar away from the care of those old people who are already there. Where are these people going to go then? The quality of their care will be reduced, their drugs cut back, eventually killing them; again an unintended consequence, but the government will be saved boucoup bucks. If you have a parent warehoused in one of those beware. Also, we all will be there before we know it. The old are simply not cost effective when it comes to their healthcare, in the view of the Obama Administration. But he is so trusted he can do about anything if the issue is not raised by the Repbulicans. The Republicans can't do very much about any of this but they can raise the red flag, and that will be good thing if it makes activists of us all!
     
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    The whole argument is retarded. Here we have Obama looking for a way to save tax dollars and have the private sector handle this. A conservatives wet dream. The people who it will affect speak out, he listens and he takes it off the table. A conservatives wet dream. Bash the democrat anyway. A conservatives wet dream.
     
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    They wanted him to not propose it in the first place?

    Some of these guys will never be satisfied/happy with anything he does and if by some off chance they are I highly doubt they would voice their approval.

    I totally hear ya ... the vets spoke up, he clearly listened him, and demonstrated it by dropping a bad idea.
     

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