Obama administration writes check for $1.5 Billion to Iran without consulting congress

[Penelope]

Has Iran attacked us. I can't recall. I don't think so.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

What Carter did was refuse to exercise American power by demanding the hostages back within 24 hours, or strangling that Islamist baby in the crib if they were not returned.

Ain't hindsite great?

And George Bush could have decided not to invade a country that did not attack us.

Think things would be better if we never invaded Iraq?

Yes.

 

[Wilbur Right]

and Kerry ADMITTED THAT PART OF THE MONEY WILL LIKELY FALL INTO HANDS OF TERRORIST

Oh god no. Not into the hands of terrorists.

Let me ask you this. How many tens of millions of dollars in American military hardware did the Iraqi army walk away from that ended up in the hands of terrorists?


It's a sure thing American hardware is being used by terrorists.

How much money has Iran given to terrorists from the money they got from us?

 

[Wilbur Right]

What Carter did was refuse to exercise American power by demanding the hostages back within 24 hours, or strangling that Islamist baby in the crib if they were not returned.

Ain't hindsite great?

And George Bush could have decided not to invade a country that did not attack us.

Think things would be better if we never invaded Iraq?

Yes.

Appreciate your honesty.

 

[ogibillm]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

Wrong...wrong and wrong again.
$500 million was froze and for good Goddamn reason...you don't pay $1.3 Billion in "interest" on money that was FROZE...perhaps you don't know what frozen assets are????

clearly you don't understand what "frozen assets" are either

 

[ogibillm]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

Fine. Give it back to them but why do they get interest?

because we froze their money for more than 35 years

 

[Wilbur Right]

clearly you don't understand what "frozen assets" are either

I had a frozen ass one time.

But it might have been from sledding.

 

[Jackson]

Isn't it the job of the House to write that check? Take that checkbook away from Obama. Lord knows who or what he's funding!

 

[mudwhistle]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

 

[SwimExpert]

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Don't give me that bullshit. Can't blame Iran for ISIS. ISIS is clearly the fault of Obama and Obama alone.

 

[Camp]

Reagan could have put that Iranian money in a trust account and just left it alone. He could have simply said that when the money got released they would get whatever the fund had accumulated. Instead, he decided to snatch it up and spend it and the interest like it was his and put the burden of paying it back into the future. Just more Reagan legacy crap to deal with. Like giving birth to modern day terrorism wasn't enough.

He should have taken it as a spoil of war. Modern day terrorism is largely Carter's progeny.

Carter kept the hostages in Iran and refused to negotiate.

What Carter did was refuse to exercise American power by demanding the hostages back within 24 hours, or strangling that Islamist baby in the crib if they were not returned.

We will pay for his weakness for generations to come.

The hostages would have been killed and a horrible war that included Israel would have occurred. The situation was handled diplomatically.
The real crisis that caused the new era terrorist attacks came under Bush, including the sanctions with commitments to pay interest being formally accepted by Reagan and detailed under Bush 41 at the Hague.

iie.com/publications/papers/sanctions-iran-84-1_2006-1.pdf

They get interest because that is the deal Reagan made and Bush 41 confirmed.

 

[ogibillm]

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Don't give me that bullshit. Can't blame Iran for ISIS. ISIS is clearly the fault of Obama and Obama alone.

how do you figure?

 

[SwimExpert]

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Don't give me that bullshit. Can't blame Iran for ISIS. ISIS is clearly the fault of Obama and Obama alone.

how do you figure?

"V" shaped. How's your figure?

 

[ogibillm]

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Don't give me that bullshit. Can't blame Iran for ISIS. ISIS is clearly the fault of Obama and Obama alone.

how do you figure?

"V" shaped. How's your figure?

no matter how we figure it, somebody don't like the way we figured it

 

[mudwhistle]

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Don't give me that bullshit. Can't blame Iran for ISIS. ISIS is clearly the fault of Obama and Obama alone.

This is true. However understanding the difference between a Shiite and a Sunni would be enlightening.

 

[Billy_Kinetta]

The hostages would have been killed and a horrible war that included Israel would have occurred.

Any war would have been short-lived, and the ruling mullahs, including Khomenei, killed.

The world would not have been dealing with this nonsense for the last 37 years.

 

[Penelope]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Isis is the result of Bush with Iraq and SA and Israel wanting Assad out and Obama obliging. They are financed by SA

 

[Penelope]

After paying off the loans and setting up an escrow account at The Hague, Iran received only $4 billion or roughly one-third of its original assets. The cash loss to the Iranian treasury amounted to about $150 million per hostage, or roughly $300,000 per day for each hostage. The financial cost, and the incalculable loss of international legitimacy that has dogged Iran ever since, suggest that the hostage episode is not a model that is likely to be attractive to other countries and is unlikely to be repeated.

The Carter Administration | The Iran Primer

 

[mudwhistle]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Isis is the result of Bush with Iraq and SA and Israel wanting Assad out and Obama obliging. They are financed by SA

ISIS is a result of the vacuum Obama created when he bailed on Iraq. Islamic State is a caliphate created by the occupation of land. Something that wouldn't exist if our president wasn't such a self-centered neglegent schmuck.

 

[ogibillm]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Isis is the result of Bush with Iraq and SA and Israel wanting Assad out and Obama obliging. They are financed by SA

ISIS is a result of the vacuum Obama created when he bailed on Iraq.

by following the agreement iraq wanted and bush signed.

how long did you expect us to need to fight itaq's fights for them?