Obama administration writes check for $1.5 Billion to Iran without consulting congress

[Camp]

The hostages would have been killed and a horrible war that included Israel would have occurred.

Any war would have been short-lived, and the ruling mullahs, including Khomenei, killed.

The world would not have been dealing with this nonsense for the last 37 years.

You are only speculating, and doing so in a way that supports your agenda. You have no idea how a war with Iran would have been fought on a conventional battlefield and global state-supported terrorist attacks on levels never seen. You are arm chair generaling with the comfort of omitting pertinent data that only a fool with omit.

 

[CowboyTed]

Reagan could have put that Iranian money in a trust account and just left it alone. He could have simply said that when the money got released they would get whatever the fund had accumulated. Instead, he decided to snatch it up and spend it and the interest like it was his and put the burden of paying it back into the future. Just more Reagan legacy crap to deal with. Like giving birth to modern day terrorism wasn't enough.

He should have taken it as a spoil of war. Modern day terrorism is largely Carter's progeny.

Carter kept the hostages in Iran and refused to negotiate.

What Carter did was refuse to exercise American power by demanding the hostages back within 24 hours, or strangling that Islamist baby in the crib if they were not returned.

We will pay for his weakness for generations to come.

Sorry but the Bullshit Meter went off...

Rubio wrongly credits Reagan for 1981 release of hostages from Iran

This must be embarrassing

 

[Penelope]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Isis is the result of Bush with Iraq and SA and Israel wanting Assad out and Obama obliging. They are financed by SA

ISIS is a result of the vacuum Obama created when he bailed on Iraq. Islamic State is a caliphate created by the occupation of land. Something that wouldn't exist if our president wasn't such a self-centered neglegent schmuck.

In a war that should of never happened. It was time to pull them out and frankly Iraq's PM wanted us to leave.

 

[Penelope]

Rubio is parroting Romney. If you listen to the last debate between Reagan and Carter, Reagan said he'd pray about it, and frankly it hardly came up. You do not bomb a whole country for what a few hundred zealots did.

 

[paulitician]

Yeah, Hussein and Kerry are an embarrassment. That's why i like Trump. He would have never negotiated such a horrible deal for our country. Hussein and Kerry just made a deal, so they could say they made a deal. It's all about that 'legacy' shite.

But hey, gotta give Iran props. They're much smarter over there than most Americans realize. They got a huge chunk of cash out of the deal. And they announced today they're signing a huge development deal with Russia. They got more than they ever dreamed they would. It is what it is.

 

[ogibillm]

Yeah, Hussein and Kerry are an embarrassment.

who?

 

[mudwhistle]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Isis is the result of Bush with Iraq and SA and Israel wanting Assad out and Obama obliging. They are financed by SA

ISIS is a result of the vacuum Obama created when he bailed on Iraq.

by following the agreement iraq wanted and bush signed.

how long did you expect us to need to fight itaq's fights for them?

Bush wanted us to work out a new status of forces agreement and leave a residual force of 50,000 behind, but Big-ears wanted to be able to say he ended the war. So we bailed completely. This is all Obama's fault, not Bush

 

[mudwhistle]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Isis is the result of Bush with Iraq and SA and Israel wanting Assad out and Obama obliging. They are financed by SA

ISIS is a result of the vacuum Obama created when he bailed on Iraq. Islamic State is a caliphate created by the occupation of land. Something that wouldn't exist if our president wasn't such a self-centered neglegent schmuck.

In a war that should of never happened. It was time to pull them out and frankly Iraq's PM wanted us to leave.

I would too if I had to deal with the dicks running the current administration. But saying it never should of happened is childish bs, because it did happen and Obama's job was to deal with it in a rational manner.

 

[Claudette]

read and weep...WTF is wrong with this administration???
Some weak statement about funds froze in 1979...and ?1.3 billion is interest?????

Kerry admits SOME OF THE MONEY MAY END UP IN TERRORIST HANDS....what in the hell??????

Top House Republican demands Kerry explain $1.7 billion Iran payment | Fox News

Just shows what gullible fools he and Kerry are.

Once again we taxpayers get hosed by fools.

 

[ogibillm]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Isis is the result of Bush with Iraq and SA and Israel wanting Assad out and Obama obliging. They are financed by SA

ISIS is a result of the vacuum Obama created when he bailed on Iraq.

by following the agreement iraq wanted and bush signed.

how long did you expect us to need to fight itaq's fights for them?

Bush wanted us to work out a new status of forces agreement and leave a residual force of 50,000 behind, but Big-ears wanted to be able to say he ended the war. So we bailed completely. This is all Obama's fault, not Bush

right. which president signed an agreement requiring us to leave? simple question, only one answer

 

[iamwhatiseem]

Damn people...do you think if you blame the "other party" you are absolved somehow..or as long as you can throw some blame around the problem somehow goes away??
Writing a check to an absolute enemy of the United States for $1.5 billion and admitting all along that at least part of the money will fund terrorist....is fucking insane!!!
Talking about Bush 9 years ago doesn't change or excuse what just happened!!

 

[ogibillm]

Damn people...do you think if you blame the "other party" you are absolved somehow..or as long as you can throw some blame around the problem somehow goes away??
Writing a check to an absolute enemy of the United States for $1.5 billion and admitting all along that at least part of the money will fund terrorist....is fucking insane!!!
Talking about Bush 9 years ago doesn't change or excuse what just happened!!

we owed the money. that's not in dispute.

 

[Jackson]

read and weep...WTF is wrong with this administration???
Some weak statement about funds froze in 1979...and ?1.3 billion is interest?????

Kerry admits SOME OF THE MONEY MAY END UP IN TERRORIST HANDS....what in the hell??????

Top House Republican demands Kerry explain $1.7 billion Iran payment | Fox News

Just shows what gullible fools he and Kerry are.

Once again we taxpayers get hosed by fools.

The problem is, congress has no opportunity to question these a acts, It is done unilaterally. we are paying ll of these salaries for representatives and their staff and for what????

 

[iamwhatiseem]

we owed the money. that's not in dispute.

In your smooth unwrinkled brain? Maybe...for the rest of us - no.
We didn't borrow money from them.
Despite anything you can say - you don't write a $1.5 billion check to a direct enemy of the state - AND KNOWING that at LEAST part of that is going into the hands of terrorist groups. That is fucking insane. That completely and totally trumps any "right" Iran has to the $500 million.
STop playing video games long enough to think before you type.

 

[Iceweasel]

Iran has been the top source of state sponsored terrorism for nearly 40 years. ISIS is a Sunni response.

Isis is the result of Bush with Iraq and SA and Israel wanting Assad out and Obama obliging. They are financed by SA

ISIS is a result of the vacuum Obama created when he bailed on Iraq.

by following the agreement iraq wanted and bush signed.

how long did you expect us to need to fight itaq's fights for them?

Bush wanted us to work out a new status of forces agreement and leave a residual force of 50,000 behind, but Big-ears wanted to be able to say he ended the war. So we bailed completely. This is all Obama's fault, not Bush

right. which president signed an agreement requiring us to leave? simple question, only one answer

I posted the answer to that several days ago. The fact that obama ran on getting out of Iraq left no wiggle room in the negotiations. It was not the deal W wanted.

 

[ogibillm]

Isis is the result of Bush with Iraq and SA and Israel wanting Assad out and Obama obliging. They are financed by SA

ISIS is a result of the vacuum Obama created when he bailed on Iraq.

by following the agreement iraq wanted and bush signed.

how long did you expect us to need to fight itaq's fights for them?

Bush wanted us to work out a new status of forces agreement and leave a residual force of 50,000 behind, but Big-ears wanted to be able to say he ended the war. So we bailed completely. This is all Obama's fault, not Bush

right. which president signed an agreement requiring us to leave? simple question, only one answer

I posted the answer to that several days ago. The fact that obama ran on getting out of Iraq left no wiggle room in the negotiations. It was not the deal W wanted.

it was the deal he signed. if he wanted something else he shouldnt have waited until his back was against the wall to negotiate it

 

[ogibillm]

we owed the money. that's not in dispute.

In your smooth unwrinkled brain? Maybe...for the rest of us - no.
We didn't borrow money from them.
Despite anything you can say - you don't write a $1.5 billion check to a direct enemy of the state - AND KNOWING that at LEAST part of that is going into the hands of terrorist groups. That is fucking insane. That completely and totally trumps any "right" Iran has to the $500 million.
STop playing video games long enough to think before you type.

we. owed. the. money.

and we got a good deal on the interest rate

 

[Iceweasel]

ISIS is a result of the vacuum Obama created when he bailed on Iraq.

by following the agreement iraq wanted and bush signed.

how long did you expect us to need to fight itaq's fights for them?

Bush wanted us to work out a new status of forces agreement and leave a residual force of 50,000 behind, but Big-ears wanted to be able to say he ended the war. So we bailed completely. This is all Obama's fault, not Bush

right. which president signed an agreement requiring us to leave? simple question, only one answer

I posted the answer to that several days ago. The fact that obama ran on getting out of Iraq left no wiggle room in the negotiations. It was not the deal W wanted.

it was the deal he signed. if he wanted something else he shouldnt have waited until his back was against the wall to negotiate it

It wasn't that simple.

Bush’s finest moment on Iraq: SOFA, not the surge
Conservatives now like to claim the SOFA as a “Bush-negotiated” success. But Bush entered the SOFA negotiations looking for something entirely different than what emerged at the end. The U.S. went into the SOFA talks intent on obtaining legitimacy for a long-term military presence in Iraq once the Security Council mandate ended. When negotiations began, it was widely assumed that Bush would extract from the Iraqis an agreement which made the removal of U.S. troops entirely contingent upon American assessments of conditions on the ground. There were widespread discussions of permanent U.S. bases and a Korea-style presence for generations, an assumption that the U.S. would retain a free hand in its operations, and an absolute rejection of an Obama-style timeline for withdrawal.

But Iraqi leaders, to most everyone’s surprise, took a hard line in the negotiations. Their tough line was encouraged by Iran, no doubt, as stressed by many frustrated American commentators. But it also reflected Iraqi domestic considerations, including several rounds of upcoming elections and an intensely strong popular Iraqi hostility to the U.S. occupation under any name. The Iraqis were also helped by the calender. As negotiations dragged on, the December 31 deadline loomed large, threatening to leave the U.S. troops without any legal mandate to remain in the country and forcing the hand of American negotiators. Finally, the Iraqi leaders clearly kept a careful eye on the American Presidential elections and used Obama’s stance to strengthen their own hand in negotiations.

 

[ogibillm]

by following the agreement iraq wanted and bush signed.

how long did you expect us to need to fight itaq's fights for them?

Bush wanted us to work out a new status of forces agreement and leave a residual force of 50,000 behind, but Big-ears wanted to be able to say he ended the war. So we bailed completely. This is all Obama's fault, not Bush

right. which president signed an agreement requiring us to leave? simple question, only one answer

I posted the answer to that several days ago. The fact that obama ran on getting out of Iraq left no wiggle room in the negotiations. It was not the deal W wanted.

it was the deal he signed. if he wanted something else he shouldnt have waited until his back was against the wall to negotiate it

It wasn't that simple.

Bush’s finest moment on Iraq: SOFA, not the surge
Conservatives now like to claim the SOFA as a “Bush-negotiated” success. But Bush entered the SOFA negotiations looking for something entirely different than what emerged at the end. The U.S. went into the SOFA talks intent on obtaining legitimacy for a long-term military presence in Iraq once the Security Council mandate ended. When negotiations began, it was widely assumed that Bush would extract from the Iraqis an agreement which made the removal of U.S. troops entirely contingent upon American assessments of conditions on the ground. There were widespread discussions of permanent U.S. bases and a Korea-style presence for generations, an assumption that the U.S. would retain a free hand in its operations, and an absolute rejection of an Obama-style timeline for withdrawal.

But Iraqi leaders, to most everyone’s surprise, took a hard line in the negotiations. Their tough line was encouraged by Iran, no doubt, as stressed by many frustrated American commentators. But it also reflected Iraqi domestic considerations, including several rounds of upcoming elections and an intensely strong popular Iraqi hostility to the U.S. occupation under any name. The Iraqis were also helped by the calender. As negotiations dragged on, the December 31 deadline loomed large, threatening to leave the U.S. troops without any legal mandate to remain in the country and forcing the hand of American negotiators. Finally, the Iraqi leaders clearly kept a careful eye on the American Presidential elections and used Obama’s stance to strengthen their own hand in negotiations.

and that changes what, exactly?

nothing except for more evidence that iraq wanted us gone

 

[Soggy in NOLA]

It was frozen money since Carter . It was theirs, its not up to us who they fund, we fund an army and AF in almost every nation. They are not funding Isis and never were.

They have been fighting a proxy war against us for decades. Fuck them. That money should have been confiscated and distributed to every adult in the U.S.