Nuclear Options Regarding Ukraine (Poll)

What responses do you support for Putin's possible action?

  • Putin uses a "tactical nuke" on the Uke army in east Ukraine. NATO Action: No new response

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • Putin uses a "tactical nuke" on the Uke army... Action: NATO uses tactical nuke on Russian troops

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • Putin uses nuclear weapon on Kyiv. NATO action no new response

    Votes: 5 35.7%
  • Putin uses nuclear weapon on Kyiv. Action: NATO gives nuclear weapons to Ukraine

    Votes: 6 42.9%

  • Total voters
    14
Yes, but what difference will that make if people do not believe the source that reveals that information?
Very true and that is the damn issue with people…

Uranium is enriched with hard water and that hard water has a signature that will tell you where it come from but I get your point people will be easily fooled by propaganda and believe it wasn’t him.

Still I believe the nuclear reactor is his main goal if he fails…
 
I swear, some idiots seem to be wishing for it
Yep, and unfortunately, those idiots aren't just us here on USMB. DC seems to be filled with them too. While they haven't threatened to use nukes yet, they certainly seem willing to keep pushing him into a corner he cannot escape from.
 
I do not believe the U.S. will use any form of Nuclear Device on Russia in retaliation because that is End Game.

Again, I believe Putin will detonate the largest reactor in the Ukraine and blame Neo - Nazis and then leave the region scared and radiated…
Please explain how one "detomates" a nuclear reactor?

Also, he pulled his forces from Chernobyl and many of them will die because of the radioactive dust they were breathing.
 
Please explain how one "detomates" a nuclear reactor?

Also, he pulled his forces from Chernobyl and many of them will die because of the radioactive dust they were breathing.
You know asshole get off your fucking bullshit about mistakes in grammar and spelling you worthless fuck!

I swear you should be banned because all you do is troll and never offer any opinion on anything!
 
He publicly changed Russia's nuclear use doctrine a couple of decades ago. He went on a modernization binge and they now have about a 10:1 advantage in new, low-yield nukes. The idea is to grab territory and before NATO can bring forces to bear against him and push him back out, he detonates a couple of 5-10 KT devices in a location that will harm NATO but leave them with the choice of freezing the conflict in place OR running the risk of total nuclear war. A device of that size used as an airburst would not leave a nuclear wasteland. He strikes me as the kind who would be willing to take that chance to save himself.
What good would an airburst do?
 
You'd think NATO Eu would have to be on board.
I think they already have shown a willingness to push him into a corner and keep supplying Ukraine until his forces are pushed out. I don't think he will accept that. The best solution would be for someone in the Kremlin to take him out but if they don't, I think he is completely capable of using a "small" device to take out a pocket of resistance or even a NATO base that is supplying Ukraine and keeping the war going. What does he have left to lose if by being defeated in Ukraine, he risks being assassinated?
 
I think they already have shown a willingness to push him into a corner and keep supplying Ukraine until his forces are pushed out. I don't think he will accept that. The best solution would be for someone in the Kremlin to take him out but if they don't, I think he is completely capable of using a "small" device to take out a pocket of resistance or even a NATO base that is supplying Ukraine and keeping the war going. What does he have left to lose if by being defeated in Ukraine, he risks being assassinated?

Do not discount a global cyber hit. I think it is coming.
 
You can't occupy territory that you've nuked.
Sure you can. Both Hiroshima and Nagasaki were occupied by the U.S. within a couple of months of the bombs detonating. Both were airbursts and left very little fallout contamination.

If Putin ordered a couple of bombs of say 5-10 KT to be detonated as an airburst over a city or a military base, the destruction would be limited in scope and it would be damned sure to wake the world up to the idea that we were at the edge of an abyss. The question is, would the U.S. or NATO take the chance of escalating it further? I don't think anyone knows the answer to that question. My guess is that DC would step back.
 
What good would an airburst do?
It depends on the yield and the target. The "Little Boy" detonated about 1800 feet above Hiroshima. It was about 15KT. The same size/yield device over a Ukrainian city would end all resistance there and likely freeze the war in place. I just don't believe NATO or the U.S. would risk retaliating in kind unless he threatened another country in NATO.
 
The War in Ukraine is not going well for Putin. The question is, how desperate will Putin get to stay in power or defeat Ukraine? We know he will brutalize Ukrainian civilians with bombs, tanks, artillery, and missiles. But that won't stop Ukrainians from defending their homeland. So what other options will Putin consider? Nuclear weapons?

This OP is looking at the options Putin may be considering, and trying to put up a response or deterrence for the most serious.
Can NATO put up credible threats that would prevent Putin from using his nuclear weapons?

So "what if" Putin does "this", can NATO commit to doing "that"?
What responses do you support?
Are there better responses?


I recommend advanced yoga classes. Get flexible now and you'll already be ahead of the game when it comes time to kiss your ass goodbye . . . 'cause that's what you'll be doing when the nukes start flying.
 
Doesn't quite work that way in our global economy. Ukraine wheat.
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What global economy? The one where we send all the good paying manufacturing jobs to China so they can use slave and child labor to make the rich richer? Yeah! That proves that the world is one big happy family where everyone is working for the betterment of mankind. Hey I know!!! Let's bring in millions of uneducated foreign nationals illegally and use that to drive the labor prices down in the United States because we need slave labor too because it's only right that the trust fund babies in Boston and other large cities be kept in mansions and not get their hands dirty after all they're special and should only have to sell their crappy art work for huge prices on the street and the White House.

Yeah!!! I can see how you're global economy is so special.

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The Op is obsessed with the Nukes and FEAR PORN.............

Hopefully, Putin hasn't lost his mind........and the drooling Moonbat in the oval office isn't anywhere near the big red button.

 
That reality may be partly responsible for Putin's gambit. If he uses a LY device on a Ukrainian city or even a NATO base that is supplying weapons to Ukraine and NATO does not respond, then NATO ceases to exist.
I think that is the case already.
The fact that they made Ukraine give up their nukes while Obama was president made NATO obsolete....because NATO really doesn't have much of a standing army.
BTW, Obama and Biden paved the way to the invasion of Ukraine.
A Commie (Obama) and a Retard (Brandon).
 

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