Now Insurers Must Cover 100% of Birth Control, Other Female Services

[kiwiman127]

Let's see...my insurance premiums increased by $2400.00 this year courtesy of the changes mandated by ObamaCare. I suppose I can expect another hefty increase in my premiums for next year in order to pay for this mandate. I hope all the USMB cheerleaders for this realize that insurance companies are not going to absorb the cost. They will simply pass it on. Perhaps when your employer decides that they can no longer afford to provide your health insurance, some of you might get a clue. This is just another way for this administration to force increases in private insurance so that a public option will start to seem more attractive.
Just like "energy prices will necessarily skyrocket" in order to advance an agenda, so will health insurance premiums.

"A recent survey of large companies by the National Business Group on Health found that employers estimate their health-care-benefit costs will increase by an average of 8.9% in 2011" In 2010 premiums went up 7%.

Read more: Health-Insurance Changes for 2011
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I think you had better change insurance companies, you're getting taken for a ride.
FYI, insurance premiums have increased by over 120% in the last decade..

 

[Vel]

Let's see...my insurance premiums increased by $2400.00 this year courtesy of the changes mandated by ObamaCare. I suppose I can expect another hefty increase in my premiums for next year in order to pay for this mandate. I hope all the USMB cheerleaders for this realize that insurance companies are not going to absorb the cost. They will simply pass it on. Perhaps when your employer decides that they can no longer afford to provide your health insurance, some of you might get a clue. This is just another way for this administration to force increases in private insurance so that a public option will start to seem more attractive.
Just like "energy prices will necessarily skyrocket" in order to advance an agenda, so will health insurance premiums.

"A recent survey of large companies by the National Business Group on Health found that employers estimate their health-care-benefit costs will increase by an average of 8.9% in 2011" In 2010 premiums went up 7%.

Read more: Health-Insurance Changes for 2011
Become a Fan of Kiplinger's on Facebook

I think you had better change insurance companies, you're getting taken for a ride.
FYI, insurance premiums have increased by over 120% in the last decade..

Yeah.. the same ride that everyone else purchasing individual coverage is taking. It's the ride that subsidizes all those group plans.

 

[gwenM]

This is good news for all women especially mothers. Now, birth control expense is not anymore a financial burden. As an element of health care reform regulation, no insurance company can require that any person have any co-pay whatsoever for birth control medication. Contraception pills will not cost any female with health insurance a dime. I found this here: Insurance companies cannot demand co-pays for birth control. This is a good point for the Obama administration just in case Obama is planning to run again for presidential elections.

 

[Cecilie1200]

May I change the subject for a moment? Is there a birth control pill/patch for men? Just curious.

Hey, wait, I saw this scene at a BDSM party once . . .

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is good news for all women especially mothers. Now, birth control expense is not anymore a financial burden. As an element of health care reform regulation, no insurance company can require that any person have any co-pay whatsoever for birth control medication. Contraception pills will not cost any female with health insurance a dime. I found this here: Insurance companies cannot demand co-pays for birth control. This is a good point for the Obama administration just in case Obama is planning to run again for presidential elections.

This sort of attitude and outlook on life is why I keep saying that giving women the vote was a monumental mistake in regards to the good of the nation as a whole.

 

[BDBoop]

This is good news for all women especially mothers. Now, birth control expense is not anymore a financial burden. As an element of health care reform regulation, no insurance company can require that any person have any co-pay whatsoever for birth control medication. Contraception pills will not cost any female with health insurance a dime. I found this here: Insurance companies cannot demand co-pays for birth control. This is a good point for the Obama administration just in case Obama is planning to run again for presidential elections.

This sort of attitude and outlook on life is why I keep saying that giving women the vote was a monumental mistake in regards to the good of the nation as a whole.

You're talking to a spammer. Check their post history.

 

[Cecilie1200]

This is good news for all women especially mothers. Now, birth control expense is not anymore a financial burden. As an element of health care reform regulation, no insurance company can require that any person have any co-pay whatsoever for birth control medication. Contraception pills will not cost any female with health insurance a dime. I found this here: Insurance companies cannot demand co-pays for birth control. This is a good point for the Obama administration just in case Obama is planning to run again for presidential elections.

This sort of attitude and outlook on life is why I keep saying that giving women the vote was a monumental mistake in regards to the good of the nation as a whole.

You're talking to a spammer. Check their post history.

I was actually talking more ABOUT her than TO her.

 

[MeBelle]

the women are paying several thousand dollars a year for their insurance policy....i think the once a year gyno check up should be included in that fee just like a physical would be and all insurance policies that i have had, do cover this annual check up, without deductibles....so that part is nothing new.

I have no problems with a breast pump being covered in full either.

BC pills were not covered by insurance at all, in my youth....only the last decade and a half have i seen insurance companies moving to cover them. so, i think full coverage with no deductible is a reach....but, i'd rather people buying insurance get the full coverage 4 them than making us tax payers pay for them.....

Unlike Medicare paying for the little blue pills ever since they came on the market!!!!
grrrrrrrrrrrr
Almost seems, uh, like, um, discrimination, yeah, that's the word!!

 

[rightwinger]

Do you think "healthcare" is free? Are you suggesting that doctors and nurses that dedicate themselves to school and discipline should have their pay "set" by government? Do you think they should be "forced" to administer care? Are you okay with "slavery"?

Health care is a basic human necessity. Without it, nothing else matters; nothing else of any magnitude can be accomplished. The more people who GET THAT, we will be on our way to solving the entire problem. Obamacare is a bandaid, just like all the others.

The pilgrims that came here were a lot tougher than we are now. When they were left on the shores of this great land, there were no hospitals. There were no stores. If they couldn't grow it, make it, or hunt it, they went without. How is that now when we have all these great things that people want someone else to take care of them (like the slaves were taken care of by their masters)? People have always died without health care. They are dropping at a faster rate in those countries that "provide" health care. Why do you want that here?

If someone else has to provide something "for" you, it is not a "right". You are taking from someone else if you "force" (tax) them to aid you.

Pilgrims were lucky to survive into their thirties. If they got sick, they died. Most of your children died, if the crops were bad.....you starved. If Indians attacked, you were unprotected

That is why we exist as a society. We rely on the whole to look after the few, the weakest, the struggling. That way, everyone survives

We are stronger as a society than we are as a bunch of rugged individuals

 

[editec]

RW has that right.

If it weren't for societies, there would not BE any rugged individuals.

There are no "self made" men.

Everybody is working with and within the confines of the society as a whole.

Some work much harder, some do much better, but NONE did it ALONE.

 

[geauxtohell]

The pilgrims that came here were a lot tougher than we are now. When they were left on the shores of this great land, there were no hospitals. There were no stores. If they couldn't grow it, make it, or hunt it, they went without. How is that now when we have all these great things that people want someone else to take care of them (like the slaves were taken care of by their masters)? People have always died without health care. They are dropping at a faster rate in those countries that "provide" health care. Why do you want that here?

If someone else has to provide something "for" you, it is not a "right". You are taking from someone else if you "force" (tax) them to aid you.

And their life expectancy was 40 years old.

That's less then the life expectancy in Afghanistan right now.

The Encyclopedia of Aging and The Elderly: life expectancy

You guys are making nonsensical arguments that actually refute your point. That is, unless you think living to 40 is a good outcome.

 

[geauxtohell]

you guys? Oh, I get it

tell you what;

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It's not a strawman argument. You are bemoaning the decay of society as the root of the problem. That may or may not be true.

We are proposing that it's more pragmatic to address it through birth control then to try and put a genie in a bottle.[/QUOTE]

below is the sum total of what I have said addressing the topic, then the whirligig started, you apparently know and have explained my position for me, cause lord knows I haven't.

and what is; "low rent"?:eusa_eh:




[I]I don’t know, I am trying to get my head around my neighbor asking me to foot the bill for his daughters contraception, and then me asking him to foot the bill for my daughters abortion…….just cannot get my head into either one of those.

wasn't there supposed to be a codicil to obamacare via exec. order forbidding abortion form being paid for?


and Chanel, nothing is ever free

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because it addresses the symptom not the disease...as a budding MD you should appreciate that ;)
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lack of self control, will, personal responsibility. and yes society has done their part to contribute to that, mightily, so there is a correlation and a fair amount of causation.[/I][/QUOTE]

Where in this bill has the status quo changed to allow for federal funding of abortion?

 

[geauxtohell]

Is it "free" bones?

How about this: medicaid covers viagra but not birth control.

It is a lot easier for the gov't to supply people with viagra than explain why they are bankrupting the country. If they didn't supply viagra, there would be a lot more people paying atttention to what the gov't is doing IMHO.

That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever.

Viagra isn't "Soma" (the Soma from the Huxley book and not the actual drug). It doesn't induce a stupor where people are unable think critically.

 

[geauxtohell]

NO, I am repeating history. Socialism/Communism/Islam all work great until you run out of other people's money. In the most violent of those, that is where the "gov't" kills those that cannot be taxed any longer, so they murder them and steal any inheritance to give it to the "mob"/legion.

Wow. I wasn't aware that "Islam" was an economic philosophy.

 

[geauxtohell]

Let's see...my insurance premiums increased by $2400.00 this year courtesy of the changes mandated by ObamaCare. I suppose I can expect another hefty increase in my premiums for next year in order to pay for this mandate. I hope all the USMB cheerleaders for this realize that insurance companies are not going to absorb the cost. They will simply pass it on. Perhaps when your employer decides that they can no longer afford to provide your health insurance, some of you might get a clue. This is just another way for this administration to force increases in private insurance so that a public option will start to seem more attractive.
Just like "energy prices will necessarily skyrocket" in order to advance an agenda, so will health insurance premiums.

You can prove that your premiums went up by $2400 as a result of "ObamaCare"?

 

[geauxtohell]

A manual breast pump costs around $35. A good electric one is a couple hundred bucks. If they are "free" who will NOT get the best one they can - whether or not they are breastfeeding.

I purchased a decent one with my last baby. I used it about 10 times and then gave it away. Our landfills will be filling up with unused or underused machines. People should just rent them. Where are the environmentalists?

To come back to this issue: On the first point, if you've ever dealt with government issue of equipment you would know that generally, you get what was made by the lowest bidder. That means I highly doubt this will be a "breast pump buffet" where people get a choice.

Secondly:

Study: Lack of breastfeeding costs lives, billions of dollars - CNN

 

[chanel]

Breastfeeding is a good thing. The government need not subsidize every good thing.

Red wine can be good for you too. Where's my wine check?

 

[geauxtohell]

Breastfeeding is a good thing. The government need not subsidize every good thing.

Red wine can be good for you too. Where's my wine check?

Don't go all absurdum ad reductio on me.

If drinking red wine could be shown to save billions of dollars and lives, maybe the government should consider it. At best though, it causes a modest raise in HDL and you can get that through niacin, which the government does fund.

So, you know, apples and footballs.

 

[chanel]

I would bet that there are more wine drinkers in this country than lactating mothers. Just a hunch.

Free breast pumps will save billions of dollars? I'd like to see that research.

A decision to nurse or not is a personal one. I hated it; as many of women do. And the price of a pump does not encourage or discourage any female from returning to work. If they have a job; they can afford one. $35 for a manual one on Amazon.

 

[Cecilie1200]

the women are paying several thousand dollars a year for their insurance policy....i think the once a year gyno check up should be included in that fee just like a physical would be and all insurance policies that i have had, do cover this annual check up, without deductibles....so that part is nothing new.

I have no problems with a breast pump being covered in full either.

BC pills were not covered by insurance at all, in my youth....only the last decade and a half have i seen insurance companies moving to cover them. so, i think full coverage with no deductible is a reach....but, i'd rather people buying insurance get the full coverage 4 them than making us tax payers pay for them.....

Unlike Medicare paying for the little blue pills ever since they came on the market!!!!
grrrrrrrrrrrr
Almost seems, uh, like, um, discrimination, yeah, that's the word!!

Are you saying it's discrimination for Medicare to cover Viagra but not birth control? Because that makes as much sense as saying it's discrimination for Medicare to cover prostate exams for men, but not women.

Or are you saying what Medicare does or doesn't cover has anything at all to do with what private insurers do and don't cover? Because that ALSO makes no sense.