Now Insurers Must Cover 100% of Birth Control, Other Female Services

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Beats abortion

So does personal responsibility, but I realize that's an anathema to people like you.

using contraception IS being responsible.

Having someone else pick up the tab isn't.

 

[logical4u]

While off topic, I was going to at least read your rant, but then you lost me with the "the Lord lays cowards down" tangent.

If I wanted to be preached at, I'd go to church.

"Judge not. Lest you be judged yourself."

Got it. You want to preach to those of us paying taxes (you never did answer if you would be willing to pay double), in the name of the "children" or the "poor". But what ever we do, we should not answer you by preaching back, because you want to pretend that you don't know what you are "actually" doing. You want to concentrate on your "intentions", and not focus on the "suffering" that you are causing others. There I was thinking I found someone interensting, oh well, it was a fun, short, conversation.

Uh no. I don't want you going religious whacko on me. We can discuss policy without you having to evoke your thoughts about my eternal fate.

I would have thought that would have been pretty obvious, but maybe it went over your head.

I did not mention your "judgement". I told you of something stated in the Bible. Hence the quote "G*d hates a coward".
Still didn't answer the question: would you, that is you personally be willing to have your taxes doubled so all people could have health care?

If some one else has to provide something for you, how can it be a "right"?

 

[hellofromwarsaw]

Another macho moron...pay $15/mo, save thousands and thousands...and please get rid of your animated signature...

 

[logical4u]

The unborn are murdered for the convenience.

How can somthing that is unborn be murdered? You can't murder something that isn't alive yet....

If a baby is growing in the womb and you stop it from growing by KILLING the baby, is that not murder?

 

[logical4u]

Is it "free" bones?

How about this: medicaid covers viagra but not birth control.

It is a lot easier for the gov't to supply people with viagra than explain why they are bankrupting the country. If they didn't supply viagra, there would be a lot more people paying atttention to what the gov't is doing IMHO.

 

[daveman]

Beats abortions

Cons hate birth control and abortions. Everyone should be celibate. It's worked so well throughout history.

I wish your parents had remained celibate.

 

[logical4u]

no it doesn't

If you are "healthy" enough to have sex, you are responsible for birth control.
If you are "healthy" enough to have sex, you are "healthy" enough to have a job and pay for your own insurance/medical costs.

You must be a virgin. Nobody -- NOBODY -- ever thinks "It could happen to me..." NOBODY!!!

And these days, not everyone has a "job," in case you've been asleep for three years.

Maybe they need to work harder at getting a job instead of working harder to have sex.

 

[logical4u]

If you are "healthy" enough to have sex, you are responsible for birth control.
If you are "healthy" enough to have sex, you are "healthy" enough to have a job and pay for your own insurance/medical costs.

You must be a virgin. Nobody -- NOBODY -- ever thinks "It could happen to me..." NOBODY!!!

And these days, not everyone has a "job," in case you've been asleep for three years.

Plus, if you don't have a job......what else you going to do all day?

Go find a job?????

 

[daveman]

What's the disease?

the disease is people like sex. the right hates that.

Republicans think sex is bad, because with them it always is. Sha-zam!

It makes a funny sound when reality and leftist stereotypes collide.

Primetime Live Poll: More Republicans Satisfied With Sex Lives Than Democrats - ABC News

The poll analysis includes a breakdown by many subgroups, including region, age and even political party affiliation, which is the topic of results released today:


Of those involved in a committed relationship, who is very satisfied with their relationship?

Republicans -- 87 percent; Democrats -- 76 percent

Who is very satisfied with their sex life?

Republicans -- 56 percent; Democrats -- 47 percent

The poll analysis also reveals who has worn something sexy to enhance their sex life:
Republicans -- 72 percent; Democrats -- 62 percent

When asked whether they had ever faked an orgasm, more Democrats (33 percent) than Republicans (26 percent) said they had.​

 

[Dr Grump]

It was more or less posted for Willow's reading pleasure, obviously satirical. She thinks that EVERYTHING in the world that's bad is caused by liberals, including unwed sex.

Just ask the offspring of that uber 'liberal' Sawah Palin about that....

 

[Dr Grump]

If you are "healthy" enough to have sex, you are responsible for birth control.
If you are "healthy" enough to have sex, you are "healthy" enough to have a job and pay for your own insurance/medical costs.

You must be a virgin. Nobody -- NOBODY -- ever thinks "It could happen to me..." NOBODY!!!

And these days, not everyone has a "job," in case you've been asleep for three years.

Maybe they need to work harder at getting a job instead of working harder to have sex.

Because, you know, there is a job for every person who is unemployed, right?

Illogicial4U indeed...

 

[logical4u]

Of course there will still be unwanted pregnancies and abortions. If it lowers the rate of both of those things though, how can that be a bad thing?

If your family is getting hungry and the gov't comes and takes what is left of your food for people that are "worse off than you" how is that a bad thing?

Now you're just grasping at silly straws with barstool idiocy.

NO, I am repeating history. Socialism/Communism/Islam all work great until you run out of other people's money. In the most violent of those, that is where the "gov't" kills those that cannot be taxed any longer, so they murder them and steal any inheritance to give it to the "mob"/legion.

You want to pretend the "wealthy" are shitting money. They are not. The feds want it, the states want it, the counties want it, and the cities want it. And the "lefties" want it. All of them are saying the same thing: you can afford to give a little more. The "wealthy" are wondering how they are going to pay their bills. Their disposable income has been coveted.

If you believe that, then open up your wallet and where it says you can give extra money on your tax forms, DO IT. Be a leader, show us how it is done.

Otherwise, get your hands (and all the politicians hands) out of other peoples' pockets. If you leave nothing in reserve (investment cash) the economy will never move. You want jobs, go make them, stop telling the gov't to rob your neighbor.

 

[BDBoop]

Bristol Palin is raising her child and to my knowledge not collecting from the welfare state to do it. What's the problem?

Yeah, she's your typical unwed mother. How much did Candies pay her again?

 

[daveman]

May I change the subject for a moment? Is there a birth control pill/patch for men? Just curious.

 

[logical4u]

"Double"?

C'mon. Furthermore, you are talking about a separate issue.

Do you think "healthcare" is free? Are you suggesting that doctors and nurses that dedicate themselves to school and discipline should have their pay "set" by government? Do you think they should be "forced" to administer care? Are you okay with "slavery"?

Health care is a basic human necessity. Without it, nothing else matters; nothing else of any magnitude can be accomplished. The more people who GET THAT, we will be on our way to solving the entire problem. Obamacare is a bandaid, just like all the others.

The pilgrims that came here were a lot tougher than we are now. When they were left on the shores of this great land, there were no hospitals. There were no stores. If they couldn't grow it, make it, or hunt it, they went without. How is that now when we have all these great things that people want someone else to take care of them (like the slaves were taken care of by their masters)? People have always died without health care. They are dropping at a faster rate in those countries that "provide" health care. Why do you want that here?

If someone else has to provide something "for" you, it is not a "right". You are taking from someone else if you "force" (tax) them to aid you.

 

[daveman]

The right wing opposes sex education, birth control and abortion

Then they bitch about paying for unwanted babies

I have an issue with sex education being taught to elementary school kids. Such a class should be taught to during the middle school years. Birth control I'm all for and I really don't have a problem with it being covered by insurance. Hell, I wish it was so many years ago when I was on the pill. Abortions ... well that's another story. Personally I could never have one and I wish other women wouldn't but .... that is their choice. I'd prefer potential abortions to go full-term, deliver and put the baby up for adoption.

If sex education isn't taught early, they get it from their peers, often misinformation. Surely you know that. Hell there are stories of eight-year olds raping girls just because they "think" they're suddenly mature because they can get a hard-on. At least kids that young have two sets of information to think about: The truth and the exaggerations heard in the locker room.

Yes, there's a lot of really stupid information out there.

 

[logical4u]

You must be a virgin. Nobody -- NOBODY -- ever thinks "It could happen to me..." NOBODY!!!

And these days, not everyone has a "job," in case you've been asleep for three years.

Maybe they need to work harder at getting a job instead of working harder to have sex.

Because, you know, there is a job for every person who is unemployed, right?

Illogicial4U indeed...

There are things that can be done to improve yourself. And there are jobs: maybe not the manager of a multimillion dollar company, maybe not full-time, but there are jobs. I am seeing more people that will not take a job where I started, because they think it is "beneath" them. They refuse to "pay their dues" and can't figure out why no one wants to hire them into a leadership position. Some of them just do not want to "labor".

Having sex where there is a chance of producing a child is irresponsible. Sex is so much more fun than looking for work. But lefties know they can always get the gov't (read their neighbors) to "pay their way".

 

[Dr Grump]

Maybe they need to work harder at getting a job instead of working harder to have sex.

Because, you know, there is a job for every person who is unemployed, right?

Illogicial4U indeed...

There are things that can be done to improve yourself. And there are jobs: maybe not the manager of a multimillion dollar company, maybe not full-time, but there are jobs. I am seeing more people that will not take a job where I started, because they think it is "beneath" them. They refuse to "pay their dues" and can't figure out why no one wants to hire them into a leadership position. Some of them just do not want to "labor".

Having sex where there is a chance of producing a child is irresponsible. Sex is so much more fun than looking for work. But lefties know they can always get the gov't (read their neighbors) to "pay their way".

So are you saying there is a plethora of unemployed people who wake up every day going "ah, I don't think I'll look for work today, I'll have sex instead'? That is your argument?

 

[Vel]

Let's see...my insurance premiums increased by $2400.00 this year courtesy of the changes mandated by ObamaCare. I suppose I can expect another hefty increase in my premiums for next year in order to pay for this mandate. I hope all the USMB cheerleaders for this realize that insurance companies are not going to absorb the cost. They will simply pass it on. Perhaps when your employer decides that they can no longer afford to provide your health insurance, some of you might get a clue. This is just another way for this administration to force increases in private insurance so that a public option will start to seem more attractive.
Just like "energy prices will necessarily skyrocket" in order to advance an agenda, so will health insurance premiums.

 

[kiwiman127]

But why no copay? Copays and deductibles decrease premiums. Is this going to start a trend - a trend that will raise healthcare costs for everyone? Hmmm. Maybe that's the true intent.

Healthcare cost went up over 125% in the last decade, so healthcare costs going up for everyone, is already a done deal.