No One Has a Right to Health Care

[beagle9]

All Americans should have a right to a basic insurance plan that is paid for with a deduction out of their incomes. It should be a plan that covers the basic life sustaining needs of the American. Extra coverage should be allowed to be purchased outside of the government plan, because the government is not a dictatorship and should never be a dictatorship.

No one has a "right" to reach into anyone else's wallet. It's armed robbery

. Well what do you call it when the greed driven rich (the ones who do this in what are way to many these days), use their power and influence to rob and abuse the ones who can't defend against it ? There are countless examples of them abusing their power, but that doesn't count huh ? So when government is called in to help drive a wedge in between the two, then the government becomes that bad guy. Look I am not for socialism or dictatorships etc., but I am also not for the lower rungs on the ladder being stepped on by those who would do such a thing, and all because they (the weak), can't resist them. There has to be a balancing in society, and it can't be that the rich and powerful can abuse their power without consequence. If we want to go back to the plantation age of the 1800's then just say so.

Greed is earning your own money. It's not your using guns to take money from the people who earned it. That canard is just tired at this point comrade.

And fraud and stealing are crimes. You can prove it, prove it it doesn't justify taking a gun and taking it from someone you haven't proven ever did anything wrong

. Why are you so selfish, that you care about no one but yourself in life ? Greed is not just earning your own money, but rather it is the taking of more than you have earned, and when this happens it is robbing from someone else. The greedy are somehow smart enough though, to keep everyone just one step behind them and their bull crap.

You know if people were more decent human beings in their lives than what they are these days, then the balance in society would be more acceptable to most. Now how to fix that in order to change the mindset of the nation is really tough. Once peoples minds become so greedy and corrupt, then government becomes stronger and stronger trying to counter it, and to keep the fall out to a minimum. The situation we have today in this nation is the result of a colliding of issues over time, and the result of people trying to seperate themselves from it all by ways of their gathering up as much as they can, then storing it in barns, and watching as a nation simply explodes from within.

The worse thing that has become the norm is this attitude of hey I got mine, and who gives a care about you? Many people are able to live with that, but their are those whom still want to help out and do the right thing in life. Now there is great problems that have resulted from class warfare in this nation, but sooner or later people have got to face the issues found within it all.

I personally think that if we had a government run by people we could trust, and it offered us an insurance plan that would be taken out of our incomes, and it only cost us around &5.00 dollars a week for a basic life sustaining coverage, then all the citizens would have absolutely no problem with it. Then what the basic plan doesn't cover, additional coverage should be purchased separately. Being a citizen of this United States should have some good things about it, and if people had their way today like many haters do wish for, they would crush this nation completely.

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

 

[kaz]

All Americans should have a right to a basic insurance plan that is paid for with a deduction out of their incomes. It should be a plan that covers the basic life sustaining needs of the American. Extra coverage should be allowed to be purchased outside of the government plan, because the government is not a dictatorship and should never be a dictatorship.

No one has a "right" to reach into anyone else's wallet. It's armed robbery

. Well what do you call it when the greed driven rich (the ones who do this in what are way to many these days), use their power and influence to rob and abuse the ones who can't defend against it ? There are countless examples of them abusing their power, but that doesn't count huh ? So when government is called in to help drive a wedge in between the two, then the government becomes that bad guy. Look I am not for socialism or dictatorships etc., but I am also not for the lower rungs on the ladder being stepped on by those who would do such a thing because they can't resist them. There has to be a balancing in society, and it can't be that the rich and powerful can abuse their power without consequence. If we want to go back to the plantation age of the 1800's then just say so.

Identify the right that the "bad guys" are stepping on?

Beagle wants a bigger TV and the greedy bastards won't buy it for him. he also wants to be a woman and they won't pay for the sex change. And they won't pay for his hair transplants or Viagra. Condoms? He's paying for them his own freaking self, it's not right. I mean he's paying for his own food and his own freaking visit to the doctor.

Meanwhile, greedy bastards who have the money he wants are spending the money they earned on their own selfish selves instead of giving it to him.

Gansta knows how to fix that problem, guns, baby. And government knows how to use them to get him what he wants. You just gotta elect the right guy to do it for you. It's all nice and clean, no fuss, no muss, free stuff...

. You are why the Republicans (if you claim to be one) are so stereotypical of a bunch of greedy heartless human beings as according to huge numbers in this nation now. Like I said before, what would you people do if you didn't have the poor folks in society to blanket label as being just bad people all around in society, and so you do this in order to cover up how you were out to steal from them in which made them poor in many cases also ? What you have stolen in the past from the system that you controlled with the help of government, and that you set up to get away with has been revealed. Now you all do flips just to keep the rest of the nation from knowing exactly how bad you really are in life, and it has come out over time now, and that is why you have lost elections for way to long when it comes to fixing things. The so called establishment Republican party needs to disenfranchise itself from some bad cats if they want to win the nation back, but as is being seen now, a Democrat in a repub shirt is actually who has to win it for the Republicans (I.e. Donald Trump), because they are to ignorant to win it with one of their own (I.e. Jeb Bush) or some others who have since fallen by the wayside..

No, I'm not a Republican. And you keep repeating that you are entitled to spend my money as you see fit. If I want to spend my money as I see fit I am "greedy" and "selfish." Do you have any other tunes to play or just that one?

And the ideas that charity is an act which is performed by government and no one else are both idiotic

 

[kaz]

No one has a "right" to reach into anyone else's wallet. It's armed robbery

. Well what do you call it when the greed driven rich (the ones who do this in what are way to many these days), use their power and influence to rob and abuse the ones who can't defend against it ? There are countless examples of them abusing their power, but that doesn't count huh ? So when government is called in to help drive a wedge in between the two, then the government becomes that bad guy. Look I am not for socialism or dictatorships etc., but I am also not for the lower rungs on the ladder being stepped on by those who would do such a thing, and all because they (the weak), can't resist them. There has to be a balancing in society, and it can't be that the rich and powerful can abuse their power without consequence. If we want to go back to the plantation age of the 1800's then just say so.

Greed is earning your own money. It's not your using guns to take money from the people who earned it. That canard is just tired at this point comrade.

And fraud and stealing are crimes. You can prove it, prove it it doesn't justify taking a gun and taking it from someone you haven't proven ever did anything wrong

. Why are you so selfish, that you care about no one but yourself in life ? Greed is not just earning your own money, but rather it is the taking of more than you have earned, and when this happens it is robbing from someone else. The greedy are somehow smart enough though, to keep everyone just one step behind them and their bull crap.

You know if people were more decent human beings in their lives than what they are these days, then the balance in society would be more acceptable to most. Now how to fix that in order to change the mindset of the nation is really tough. Once peoples minds become so greedy and corrupt, then government becomes stronger and stronger trying to counter it, and to keep the fall out to a minimum. The situation we have today in this nation is the result of a colliding of issues over time, and the result of people trying to seperate themselves from it all by ways of their gathering up as much as they can, then storing it in barns, and watching as a nation simply explodes from within.

The worse thing that has become the norm is this attitude of hey I got mine, and who gives a care about you? Many people are able to live with that, but their are those whom still want to help out and do the right thing in life. Now there is great problems that have resulted from class warfare in this nation, but sooner or later people have got to face the issues found within it all.

I personally think that if we had a government run by people we could trust, and it offered us an insurance plan that would be taken out of our incomes, and it only cost us around &5.00 dollars a week for a basic life sustaining coverage, then all the citizens would have absolutely no problem with it. Then what the basic plan doesn't cover, additional coverage should be purchased separately. Being a citizen of this United States should have some good things about it, and if people had their way today like many haters do wish for, they would crush this nation completely.

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Why don't you decide how you want to help people with your money and I will decide how I want to help people with mine? What is your obsession with my money and that it's not going to what you think are the right uses for it?

Re-read that last paragraph and google the definition of "greed"...

 

[beagle9]

No one has a "right" to reach into anyone else's wallet. It's armed robbery

. Well what do you call it when the greed driven rich (the ones who do this in what are way to many these days), use their power and influence to rob and abuse the ones who can't defend against it ? There are countless examples of them abusing their power, but that doesn't count huh ? So when government is called in to help drive a wedge in between the two, then the government becomes that bad guy. Look I am not for socialism or dictatorships etc., but I am also not for the lower rungs on the ladder being stepped on by those who would do such a thing because they can't resist them. There has to be a balancing in society, and it can't be that the rich and powerful can abuse their power without consequence. If we want to go back to the plantation age of the 1800's then just say so.

Identify the right that the "bad guys" are stepping on?

Beagle wants a bigger TV and the greedy bastards won't buy it for him. he also wants to be a woman and they won't pay for the sex change. And they won't pay for his hair transplants or Viagra. Condoms? He's paying for them his own freaking self, it's not right. I mean he's paying for his own food and his own freaking visit to the doctor.

Meanwhile, greedy bastards who have the money he wants are spending the money they earned on their own selfish selves instead of giving it to him.

Gansta knows how to fix that problem, guns, baby. And government knows how to use them to get him what he wants. You just gotta elect the right guy to do it for you. It's all nice and clean, no fuss, no muss, free stuff...

. You are why the Republicans (if you claim to be one) are so stereotypical of a bunch of greedy heartless human beings as according to huge numbers in this nation now. Like I said before, what would you people do if you didn't have the poor folks in society to blanket label as being just bad people all around in society, and so you do this in order to cover up how you were out to steal from them in which made them poor in many cases also ? What you have stolen in the past from the system that you controlled with the help of government, and that you set up to get away with has been revealed. Now you all do flips just to keep the rest of the nation from knowing exactly how bad you really are in life, and it has come out over time now, and that is why you have lost elections for way to long when it comes to fixing things. The so called establishment Republican party needs to disenfranchise itself from some bad cats if they want to win the nation back, but as is being seen now, a Democrat in a repub shirt is actually who has to win it for the Republicans (I.e. Donald Trump), because they are to ignorant to win it with one of their own (I.e. Jeb Bush) or some others who have since fallen by the wayside..

No, I'm not a Republican. And you keep repeating that you are entitled to spend my money as you see fit. If I want to spend my money as I see fit I am "greedy" and "selfish." Do you have any other tunes to play or just that one?

And the ideas that charity is an act which is performed by government and no one else are both idiotic

. You keep claiming that your money is your money, (OK fair enough, and I feel the same way about what I've earned in life just as well), but how do I know how you came about your so called money ? How do I know how bad you have hurt society by taking more than you earned when you claimed you earned it, and then you haven't or won't give anything back because you are to selfish and greedy to do so ? How do I know how many there are out there like you ? Hey if you don't fit the profile, then keep on fighting is what I say about it all. However if you do fit the profile then you reveal your greed and selfishness in society with every word spoken. Like a wise man once said to.me, " if you make a dollar and make it right, then it will settle right on down in your pocket, and it will be there, but if you make a dollar wrong, then it will jump around, and jump around until it jumps right out". You just can't hold onto it. Hey I'm against all the mismanagement in our government, the private sector etc., but within it all we should be able to make healthcare a right under a certain program that is agreed upon by a majority in this nation.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

No one has a "right" to reach into anyone else's wallet. It's armed robbery

. Well what do you call it when the greed driven rich (the ones who do this in what are way to many these days), use their power and influence to rob and abuse the ones who can't defend against it ? There are countless examples of them abusing their power, but that doesn't count huh ? So when government is called in to help drive a wedge in between the two, then the government becomes that bad guy. Look I am not for socialism or dictatorships etc., but I am also not for the lower rungs on the ladder being stepped on by those who would do such a thing, and all because they (the weak), can't resist them. There has to be a balancing in society, and it can't be that the rich and powerful can abuse their power without consequence. If we want to go back to the plantation age of the 1800's then just say so.

Greed is earning your own money. It's not your using guns to take money from the people who earned it. That canard is just tired at this point comrade.

And fraud and stealing are crimes. You can prove it, prove it it doesn't justify taking a gun and taking it from someone you haven't proven ever did anything wrong

. Why are you so selfish, that you care about no one but yourself in life ? Greed is not just earning your own money, but rather it is the taking of more than you have earned, and when this happens it is robbing from someone else. The greedy are somehow smart enough though, to keep everyone just one step behind them and their bull crap.

You know if people were more decent human beings in their lives than what they are these days, then the balance in society would be more acceptable to most. Now how to fix that in order to change the mindset of the nation is really tough. Once peoples minds become so greedy and corrupt, then government becomes stronger and stronger trying to counter it, and to keep the fall out to a minimum. The situation we have today in this nation is the result of a colliding of issues over time, and the result of people trying to seperate themselves from it all by ways of their gathering up as much as they can, then storing it in barns, and watching as a nation simply explodes from within.

The worse thing that has become the norm is this attitude of hey I got mine, and who gives a care about you? Many people are able to live with that, but their are those whom still want to help out and do the right thing in life. Now there is great problems that have resulted from class warfare in this nation, but sooner or later people have got to face the issues found within it all.

I personally think that if we had a government run by people we could trust, and it offered us an insurance plan that would be taken out of our incomes, and it only cost us around &5.00 dollars a week for a basic life sustaining coverage, then all the citizens would have absolutely no problem with it. Then what the basic plan doesn't cover, additional coverage should be purchased separately. Being a citizen of this United States should have some good things about it, and if people had their way today like many haters do wish for, they would crush this nation completely.

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Perhaps I can explain it better.

When it comes to government anything, you can't have it without it being politicized.

Do you think the intent of Commie Care was to have everybody insured? Of course not, the intent was to create as many more government dependents as they could while coming off as looking like the good guy.

When the nominees are picked, watch the discussions that take place between them during the debates. It's the same ole all the time. The Democrat candidate will tell people what the Republican candidate wants to take away from them.

So we have this national healthcare thing going on. Every presidential debate will be about how the Republicans want to take away your healthcare coverage, and that will insure Democrat leadership for a very long time. It's easy to scare people.

So I don't want it because it would create such opportunities for Democrats that we would slowly sink into Socialism or worse. Think of the SC judges Democrats would nominate!!!!

 

[beagle9]

. Well what do you call it when the greed driven rich (the ones who do this in what are way to many these days), use their power and influence to rob and abuse the ones who can't defend against it ? There are countless examples of them abusing their power, but that doesn't count huh ? So when government is called in to help drive a wedge in between the two, then the government becomes that bad guy. Look I am not for socialism or dictatorships etc., but I am also not for the lower rungs on the ladder being stepped on by those who would do such a thing, and all because they (the weak), can't resist them. There has to be a balancing in society, and it can't be that the rich and powerful can abuse their power without consequence. If we want to go back to the plantation age of the 1800's then just say so.

Greed is earning your own money. It's not your using guns to take money from the people who earned it. That canard is just tired at this point comrade.

And fraud and stealing are crimes. You can prove it, prove it it doesn't justify taking a gun and taking it from someone you haven't proven ever did anything wrong

. Why are you so selfish, that you care about no one but yourself in life ? Greed is not just earning your own money, but rather it is the taking of more than you have earned, and when this happens it is robbing from someone else. The greedy are somehow smart enough though, to keep everyone just one step behind them and their bull crap.

You know if people were more decent human beings in their lives than what they are these days, then the balance in society would be more acceptable to most. Now how to fix that in order to change the mindset of the nation is really tough. Once peoples minds become so greedy and corrupt, then government becomes stronger and stronger trying to counter it, and to keep the fall out to a minimum. The situation we have today in this nation is the result of a colliding of issues over time, and the result of people trying to seperate themselves from it all by ways of their gathering up as much as they can, then storing it in barns, and watching as a nation simply explodes from within.

The worse thing that has become the norm is this attitude of hey I got mine, and who gives a care about you? Many people are able to live with that, but their are those whom still want to help out and do the right thing in life. Now there is great problems that have resulted from class warfare in this nation, but sooner or later people have got to face the issues found within it all.

I personally think that if we had a government run by people we could trust, and it offered us an insurance plan that would be taken out of our incomes, and it only cost us around &5.00 dollars a week for a basic life sustaining coverage, then all the citizens would have absolutely no problem with it. Then what the basic plan doesn't cover, additional coverage should be purchased separately. Being a citizen of this United States should have some good things about it, and if people had their way today like many haters do wish for, they would crush this nation completely.

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Why don't you decide how you want to help people with your money and I will decide how I want to help people with mine? What is your obsession with my money and that it's not going to what you think are the right uses for it?

Re-read that last paragraph and google the definition of "greed"...

. Wouldn't it be more powerful if we joined together to help the ones who really need it in society, instead of trying to do it with your seperatist attitude ?

 

[beagle9]

. Well what do you call it when the greed driven rich (the ones who do this in what are way to many these days), use their power and influence to rob and abuse the ones who can't defend against it ? There are countless examples of them abusing their power, but that doesn't count huh ? So when government is called in to help drive a wedge in between the two, then the government becomes that bad guy. Look I am not for socialism or dictatorships etc., but I am also not for the lower rungs on the ladder being stepped on by those who would do such a thing, and all because they (the weak), can't resist them. There has to be a balancing in society, and it can't be that the rich and powerful can abuse their power without consequence. If we want to go back to the plantation age of the 1800's then just say so.

Greed is earning your own money. It's not your using guns to take money from the people who earned it. That canard is just tired at this point comrade.

And fraud and stealing are crimes. You can prove it, prove it it doesn't justify taking a gun and taking it from someone you haven't proven ever did anything wrong

. Why are you so selfish, that you care about no one but yourself in life ? Greed is not just earning your own money, but rather it is the taking of more than you have earned, and when this happens it is robbing from someone else. The greedy are somehow smart enough though, to keep everyone just one step behind them and their bull crap.

You know if people were more decent human beings in their lives than what they are these days, then the balance in society would be more acceptable to most. Now how to fix that in order to change the mindset of the nation is really tough. Once peoples minds become so greedy and corrupt, then government becomes stronger and stronger trying to counter it, and to keep the fall out to a minimum. The situation we have today in this nation is the result of a colliding of issues over time, and the result of people trying to seperate themselves from it all by ways of their gathering up as much as they can, then storing it in barns, and watching as a nation simply explodes from within.

The worse thing that has become the norm is this attitude of hey I got mine, and who gives a care about you? Many people are able to live with that, but their are those whom still want to help out and do the right thing in life. Now there is great problems that have resulted from class warfare in this nation, but sooner or later people have got to face the issues found within it all.

I personally think that if we had a government run by people we could trust, and it offered us an insurance plan that would be taken out of our incomes, and it only cost us around &5.00 dollars a week for a basic life sustaining coverage, then all the citizens would have absolutely no problem with it. Then what the basic plan doesn't cover, additional coverage should be purchased separately. Being a citizen of this United States should have some good things about it, and if people had their way today like many haters do wish for, they would crush this nation completely.

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Perhaps I can explain it better.

When it comes to government anything, you can't have it without it being politicized.

Do you think the intent of Commie Care was to have everybody insured? Of course not, the intent was to create as many more government dependents as they could while coming off as looking like the good guy.

When the nominees are picked, watch the discussions that take place between them during the debates. It's the same ole all the time. The Democrat candidate will tell people what the Republican candidate wants to take away from them.

So we have this national healthcare thing going on. Every presidential debate will be about how the Republicans want to take away your healthcare coverage, and that will insure Democrat leadership for a very long time. It's easy to scare people.

So I don't want it because it would create such opportunities for Democrats that we would slowly sink into Socialism or worse. Think of the SC judges Democrats would nominate!!!!

. Why not beat the dems with their own game, and beat them to the punch instead of always playing defence after you have poured their poison into your system ? The plan I offered would be such an easy plan to execute, and it would give a basic coverage to all whether they use it or not. And if they want more for things like face lifts, cosmetics, birth control, sex operations etc. Then they can purchase that type of coverage as something they choose to have on their own. The thing about the rich wanting a so called better coverage in which they would seek after also, is that if there is enough of them, and the market place knows this, then it will move to set prices based upon their needs mostly. This causes them to pay more for their care, and it causes us to have to pay extreme prices also. Not sure how this type of situation would be figured out but it needs to be always worked on.
In a time where their are so many rich in this nation anymore, it's so wonder the most of us can afford anything anymore. In fact if it we're not for the government, then how would it all play out ?

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Greed is earning your own money. It's not your using guns to take money from the people who earned it. That canard is just tired at this point comrade.

And fraud and stealing are crimes. You can prove it, prove it it doesn't justify taking a gun and taking it from someone you haven't proven ever did anything wrong

. Why are you so selfish, that you care about no one but yourself in life ? Greed is not just earning your own money, but rather it is the taking of more than you have earned, and when this happens it is robbing from someone else. The greedy are somehow smart enough though, to keep everyone just one step behind them and their bull crap.

You know if people were more decent human beings in their lives than what they are these days, then the balance in society would be more acceptable to most. Now how to fix that in order to change the mindset of the nation is really tough. Once peoples minds become so greedy and corrupt, then government becomes stronger and stronger trying to counter it, and to keep the fall out to a minimum. The situation we have today in this nation is the result of a colliding of issues over time, and the result of people trying to seperate themselves from it all by ways of their gathering up as much as they can, then storing it in barns, and watching as a nation simply explodes from within.

The worse thing that has become the norm is this attitude of hey I got mine, and who gives a care about you? Many people are able to live with that, but their are those whom still want to help out and do the right thing in life. Now there is great problems that have resulted from class warfare in this nation, but sooner or later people have got to face the issues found within it all.

I personally think that if we had a government run by people we could trust, and it offered us an insurance plan that would be taken out of our incomes, and it only cost us around &5.00 dollars a week for a basic life sustaining coverage, then all the citizens would have absolutely no problem with it. Then what the basic plan doesn't cover, additional coverage should be purchased separately. Being a citizen of this United States should have some good things about it, and if people had their way today like many haters do wish for, they would crush this nation completely.

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Perhaps I can explain it better.

When it comes to government anything, you can't have it without it being politicized.

Do you think the intent of Commie Care was to have everybody insured? Of course not, the intent was to create as many more government dependents as they could while coming off as looking like the good guy.

When the nominees are picked, watch the discussions that take place between them during the debates. It's the same ole all the time. The Democrat candidate will tell people what the Republican candidate wants to take away from them.

So we have this national healthcare thing going on. Every presidential debate will be about how the Republicans want to take away your healthcare coverage, and that will insure Democrat leadership for a very long time. It's easy to scare people.

So I don't want it because it would create such opportunities for Democrats that we would slowly sink into Socialism or worse. Think of the SC judges Democrats would nominate!!!!

. Why not beat the dems with their own game, and beat them to the punch instead of always playing defence after you have poured their poison into your system ? The plan I offered would be such an easy plan to execute, and it would give a basic coverage to all whether they use it or not. And if they want more for things like face lifts, cosmetics, birth control, sex operations etc. Then they can purchase that type of coverage as something they choose to have on their own. The thing about the rich wanting a so called better coverage in which they would seek after also, is that if there is enough of them, and the market place knows this, then it will move to set prices based upon their needs mostly. This causes them to pay more for their care, and it causes us to have to pay extreme prices also. Not sure how this type of situation would be figured out but it needs to be always worked on.
In a time where their are so many rich in this nation anymore, it's so wonder the most of us can afford anything anymore. In fact if it we're not for the government, then how would it all play out ?

As I've said so many times before, if we could take all the so called poor (or as I call--lazy) out of our country, put them on an island somewhere, they would hardly be missed. In fact, our society would become stronger and better.

Do the exact same thing with our wealthy, and the country collapses. How many rich there are in the country doesn't determine what I can or cannot afford. That's based on the pay I bring home.

What are the solutions to our problems? Tax the rich!!!

Free college--tax the rich
Pay off our debt--tax the rich
Free healthcare--tax the rich
Repair our crumbling infrastructure--tax the rich
Renewable energy--tax the rich
Reduce our deficit--tax the rich
Take care of our homeless--tax the rich

John Stossel: Tax The Rich? The Rich Don't Have Enough. Really.

 

[kaz]

. Well what do you call it when the greed driven rich (the ones who do this in what are way to many these days), use their power and influence to rob and abuse the ones who can't defend against it ? There are countless examples of them abusing their power, but that doesn't count huh ? So when government is called in to help drive a wedge in between the two, then the government becomes that bad guy. Look I am not for socialism or dictatorships etc., but I am also not for the lower rungs on the ladder being stepped on by those who would do such a thing because they can't resist them. There has to be a balancing in society, and it can't be that the rich and powerful can abuse their power without consequence. If we want to go back to the plantation age of the 1800's then just say so.

Identify the right that the "bad guys" are stepping on?

Beagle wants a bigger TV and the greedy bastards won't buy it for him. he also wants to be a woman and they won't pay for the sex change. And they won't pay for his hair transplants or Viagra. Condoms? He's paying for them his own freaking self, it's not right. I mean he's paying for his own food and his own freaking visit to the doctor.

Meanwhile, greedy bastards who have the money he wants are spending the money they earned on their own selfish selves instead of giving it to him.

Gansta knows how to fix that problem, guns, baby. And government knows how to use them to get him what he wants. You just gotta elect the right guy to do it for you. It's all nice and clean, no fuss, no muss, free stuff...

. You are why the Republicans (if you claim to be one) are so stereotypical of a bunch of greedy heartless human beings as according to huge numbers in this nation now. Like I said before, what would you people do if you didn't have the poor folks in society to blanket label as being just bad people all around in society, and so you do this in order to cover up how you were out to steal from them in which made them poor in many cases also ? What you have stolen in the past from the system that you controlled with the help of government, and that you set up to get away with has been revealed. Now you all do flips just to keep the rest of the nation from knowing exactly how bad you really are in life, and it has come out over time now, and that is why you have lost elections for way to long when it comes to fixing things. The so called establishment Republican party needs to disenfranchise itself from some bad cats if they want to win the nation back, but as is being seen now, a Democrat in a repub shirt is actually who has to win it for the Republicans (I.e. Donald Trump), because they are to ignorant to win it with one of their own (I.e. Jeb Bush) or some others who have since fallen by the wayside..

No, I'm not a Republican. And you keep repeating that you are entitled to spend my money as you see fit. If I want to spend my money as I see fit I am "greedy" and "selfish." Do you have any other tunes to play or just that one?

And the ideas that charity is an act which is performed by government and no one else are both idiotic

. You keep claiming that your money is your money, (OK fair enough, and I feel the same way about what I've earned in life just as well), but how do I know how you came about your so called money ? How do I know how bad you have hurt society by taking more than you earned when you claimed you earned it, and then you haven't or won't give anything back because you are to selfish and greedy to do so ? How do I know how many there are out there like you ? Hey if you don't fit the profile, then keep on fighting is what I say about it all. However if you do fit the profile then you reveal your greed and selfishness in society with every word spoken. Like a wise man once said to.me, " if you make a dollar and make it right, then it will settle right on down in your pocket, and it will be there, but if you make a dollar wrong, then it will jump around, and jump around until it jumps right out". You just can't hold onto it. Hey I'm against all the mismanagement in our government, the private sector etc., but within it all we should be able to make healthcare a right under a certain program that is agreed upon by a majority in this nation.

Gotcha, if you don't know how I earned my money, then you're free to take it with guns. Again it's my greed that keeps me from agreeing to you confiscating my money and your ability to buy votes with it. Shame on me. You robbing people with guns, or politicians doing it on your behalf? You don't see any greed in that!

 

[kaz]

Greed is earning your own money. It's not your using guns to take money from the people who earned it. That canard is just tired at this point comrade.

And fraud and stealing are crimes. You can prove it, prove it it doesn't justify taking a gun and taking it from someone you haven't proven ever did anything wrong

. Why are you so selfish, that you care about no one but yourself in life ? Greed is not just earning your own money, but rather it is the taking of more than you have earned, and when this happens it is robbing from someone else. The greedy are somehow smart enough though, to keep everyone just one step behind them and their bull crap.

You know if people were more decent human beings in their lives than what they are these days, then the balance in society would be more acceptable to most. Now how to fix that in order to change the mindset of the nation is really tough. Once peoples minds become so greedy and corrupt, then government becomes stronger and stronger trying to counter it, and to keep the fall out to a minimum. The situation we have today in this nation is the result of a colliding of issues over time, and the result of people trying to seperate themselves from it all by ways of their gathering up as much as they can, then storing it in barns, and watching as a nation simply explodes from within.

The worse thing that has become the norm is this attitude of hey I got mine, and who gives a care about you? Many people are able to live with that, but their are those whom still want to help out and do the right thing in life. Now there is great problems that have resulted from class warfare in this nation, but sooner or later people have got to face the issues found within it all.

I personally think that if we had a government run by people we could trust, and it offered us an insurance plan that would be taken out of our incomes, and it only cost us around &5.00 dollars a week for a basic life sustaining coverage, then all the citizens would have absolutely no problem with it. Then what the basic plan doesn't cover, additional coverage should be purchased separately. Being a citizen of this United States should have some good things about it, and if people had their way today like many haters do wish for, they would crush this nation completely.

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Why don't you decide how you want to help people with your money and I will decide how I want to help people with mine? What is your obsession with my money and that it's not going to what you think are the right uses for it?

Re-read that last paragraph and google the definition of "greed"...

. Wouldn't it be more powerful if we joined together to help the ones who really need it in society, instead of trying to do it with your seperatist attitude ?

Yes. Our joining together won't begin though as long at you believe you have the right to confiscate our money with guns and spend it on your priorities. Interesting you don't see the greed in that.

It's not charity without choice

 

[kaz]

Greed is earning your own money. It's not your using guns to take money from the people who earned it. That canard is just tired at this point comrade.

And fraud and stealing are crimes. You can prove it, prove it it doesn't justify taking a gun and taking it from someone you haven't proven ever did anything wrong

. Why are you so selfish, that you care about no one but yourself in life ? Greed is not just earning your own money, but rather it is the taking of more than you have earned, and when this happens it is robbing from someone else. The greedy are somehow smart enough though, to keep everyone just one step behind them and their bull crap.

You know if people were more decent human beings in their lives than what they are these days, then the balance in society would be more acceptable to most. Now how to fix that in order to change the mindset of the nation is really tough. Once peoples minds become so greedy and corrupt, then government becomes stronger and stronger trying to counter it, and to keep the fall out to a minimum. The situation we have today in this nation is the result of a colliding of issues over time, and the result of people trying to seperate themselves from it all by ways of their gathering up as much as they can, then storing it in barns, and watching as a nation simply explodes from within.

The worse thing that has become the norm is this attitude of hey I got mine, and who gives a care about you? Many people are able to live with that, but their are those whom still want to help out and do the right thing in life. Now there is great problems that have resulted from class warfare in this nation, but sooner or later people have got to face the issues found within it all.

I personally think that if we had a government run by people we could trust, and it offered us an insurance plan that would be taken out of our incomes, and it only cost us around &5.00 dollars a week for a basic life sustaining coverage, then all the citizens would have absolutely no problem with it. Then what the basic plan doesn't cover, additional coverage should be purchased separately. Being a citizen of this United States should have some good things about it, and if people had their way today like many haters do wish for, they would crush this nation completely.

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Perhaps I can explain it better.

When it comes to government anything, you can't have it without it being politicized.

Do you think the intent of Commie Care was to have everybody insured? Of course not, the intent was to create as many more government dependents as they could while coming off as looking like the good guy.

When the nominees are picked, watch the discussions that take place between them during the debates. It's the same ole all the time. The Democrat candidate will tell people what the Republican candidate wants to take away from them.

So we have this national healthcare thing going on. Every presidential debate will be about how the Republicans want to take away your healthcare coverage, and that will insure Democrat leadership for a very long time. It's easy to scare people.

So I don't want it because it would create such opportunities for Democrats that we would slowly sink into Socialism or worse. Think of the SC judges Democrats would nominate!!!!

. Why not beat the dems with their own game, and beat them to the punch instead of always playing defence after you have poured their poison into your system ? The plan I offered would be such an easy plan to execute, and it would give a basic coverage to all whether they use it or not. And if they want more for things like face lifts, cosmetics, birth control, sex operations etc. Then they can purchase that type of coverage as something they choose to have on their own. The thing about the rich wanting a so called better coverage in which they would seek after also, is that if there is enough of them, and the market place knows this, then it will move to set prices based upon their needs mostly. This causes them to pay more for their care, and it causes us to have to pay extreme prices also. Not sure how this type of situation would be figured out but it needs to be always worked on.
In a time where their are so many rich in this nation anymore, it's so wonder the most of us can afford anything anymore. In fact if it we're not for the government, then how would it all play out ?

Funny how your plans always involve other people's money, then you call us greedy because you whaaa-nt our money and we don't want to give it to you

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

Identify the right that the "bad guys" are stepping on?

Beagle wants a bigger TV and the greedy bastards won't buy it for him. he also wants to be a woman and they won't pay for the sex change. And they won't pay for his hair transplants or Viagra. Condoms? He's paying for them his own freaking self, it's not right. I mean he's paying for his own food and his own freaking visit to the doctor.

Meanwhile, greedy bastards who have the money he wants are spending the money they earned on their own selfish selves instead of giving it to him.

Gansta knows how to fix that problem, guns, baby. And government knows how to use them to get him what he wants. You just gotta elect the right guy to do it for you. It's all nice and clean, no fuss, no muss, free stuff...

. You are why the Republicans (if you claim to be one) are so stereotypical of a bunch of greedy heartless human beings as according to huge numbers in this nation now. Like I said before, what would you people do if you didn't have the poor folks in society to blanket label as being just bad people all around in society, and so you do this in order to cover up how you were out to steal from them in which made them poor in many cases also ? What you have stolen in the past from the system that you controlled with the help of government, and that you set up to get away with has been revealed. Now you all do flips just to keep the rest of the nation from knowing exactly how bad you really are in life, and it has come out over time now, and that is why you have lost elections for way to long when it comes to fixing things. The so called establishment Republican party needs to disenfranchise itself from some bad cats if they want to win the nation back, but as is being seen now, a Democrat in a repub shirt is actually who has to win it for the Republicans (I.e. Donald Trump), because they are to ignorant to win it with one of their own (I.e. Jeb Bush) or some others who have since fallen by the wayside..

No, I'm not a Republican. And you keep repeating that you are entitled to spend my money as you see fit. If I want to spend my money as I see fit I am "greedy" and "selfish." Do you have any other tunes to play or just that one?

And the ideas that charity is an act which is performed by government and no one else are both idiotic

. You keep claiming that your money is your money, (OK fair enough, and I feel the same way about what I've earned in life just as well), but how do I know how you came about your so called money ? How do I know how bad you have hurt society by taking more than you earned when you claimed you earned it, and then you haven't or won't give anything back because you are to selfish and greedy to do so ? How do I know how many there are out there like you ? Hey if you don't fit the profile, then keep on fighting is what I say about it all. However if you do fit the profile then you reveal your greed and selfishness in society with every word spoken. Like a wise man once said to.me, " if you make a dollar and make it right, then it will settle right on down in your pocket, and it will be there, but if you make a dollar wrong, then it will jump around, and jump around until it jumps right out". You just can't hold onto it. Hey I'm against all the mismanagement in our government, the private sector etc., but within it all we should be able to make healthcare a right under a certain program that is agreed upon by a majority in this nation.

Gotcha, if you don't know how I earned my money, then you're free to take it with guns. Again it's my greed that keeps me from agreeing to you confiscating my money and your ability to buy votes with it. Shame on me. You robbing people with guns, or politicians doing it on your behalf? You don't see any greed in that!

If it is greed, then who is greedier? The one who makes money and wants to keep it, or one that doesn't make money and wants yours?

 

[beagle9]

. Why are you so selfish, that you care about no one but yourself in life ? Greed is not just earning your own money, but rather it is the taking of more than you have earned, and when this happens it is robbing from someone else. The greedy are somehow smart enough though, to keep everyone just one step behind them and their bull crap.

You know if people were more decent human beings in their lives than what they are these days, then the balance in society would be more acceptable to most. Now how to fix that in order to change the mindset of the nation is really tough. Once peoples minds become so greedy and corrupt, then government becomes stronger and stronger trying to counter it, and to keep the fall out to a minimum. The situation we have today in this nation is the result of a colliding of issues over time, and the result of people trying to seperate themselves from it all by ways of their gathering up as much as they can, then storing it in barns, and watching as a nation simply explodes from within.

The worse thing that has become the norm is this attitude of hey I got mine, and who gives a care about you? Many people are able to live with that, but their are those whom still want to help out and do the right thing in life. Now there is great problems that have resulted from class warfare in this nation, but sooner or later people have got to face the issues found within it all.

I personally think that if we had a government run by people we could trust, and it offered us an insurance plan that would be taken out of our incomes, and it only cost us around &5.00 dollars a week for a basic life sustaining coverage, then all the citizens would have absolutely no problem with it. Then what the basic plan doesn't cover, additional coverage should be purchased separately. Being a citizen of this United States should have some good things about it, and if people had their way today like many haters do wish for, they would crush this nation completely.

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Perhaps I can explain it better.

When it comes to government anything, you can't have it without it being politicized.

Do you think the intent of Commie Care was to have everybody insured? Of course not, the intent was to create as many more government dependents as they could while coming off as looking like the good guy.

When the nominees are picked, watch the discussions that take place between them during the debates. It's the same ole all the time. The Democrat candidate will tell people what the Republican candidate wants to take away from them.

So we have this national healthcare thing going on. Every presidential debate will be about how the Republicans want to take away your healthcare coverage, and that will insure Democrat leadership for a very long time. It's easy to scare people.

So I don't want it because it would create such opportunities for Democrats that we would slowly sink into Socialism or worse. Think of the SC judges Democrats would nominate!!!!

. Why not beat the dems with their own game, and beat them to the punch instead of always playing defence after you have poured their poison into your system ? The plan I offered would be such an easy plan to execute, and it would give a basic coverage to all whether they use it or not. And if they want more for things like face lifts, cosmetics, birth control, sex operations etc. Then they can purchase that type of coverage as something they choose to have on their own. The thing about the rich wanting a so called better coverage in which they would seek after also, is that if there is enough of them, and the market place knows this, then it will move to set prices based upon their needs mostly. This causes them to pay more for their care, and it causes us to have to pay extreme prices also. Not sure how this type of situation would be figured out but it needs to be always worked on.
In a time where their are so many rich in this nation anymore, it's so wonder the most of us can afford anything anymore. In fact if it we're not for the government, then how would it all play out ?

As I've said so many times before, if we could take all the so called poor (or as I call--lazy) out of our country, put them on an island somewhere, they would hardly be missed. In fact, our society would become stronger and better.

Do the exact same thing with our wealthy, and the country collapses. How many rich there are in the country doesn't determine what I can or cannot afford. That's based on the pay I bring home.

What are the solutions to our problems? Tax the rich!!!

Free college--tax the rich
Pay off our debt--tax the rich
Free healthcare--tax the rich
Repair our crumbling infrastructure--tax the rich
Renewable energy--tax the rich
Reduce our deficit--tax the rich
Take care of our homeless--tax the rich

John Stossel: Tax The Rich? The Rich Don't Have Enough. Really.

. No it's not about taxing the rich more than what is fair for them (that's idiotic thinking), but it could be more about price controls on some products and services offered maybe by the healthcare industry. Maybe an evaluation of products & services should be done as is needed, and then in the study and/or evaluation it is hopefully learned upon how much is fair for the producers to then place as a value on their products, along with their healthcare services offered in this country.

Maybe a percentage could be agreed upon that is above cost for the sell and profit return expected, where as how much above the actual cost of a product to be produced should the percentage on the return be or how much should the profit be as the same ? The study would need to know how much the actual retai valuel would be after it has been handled by the producer and the retailer all the way to the shelf or how much the value of a service should be also ? Otherwise how much should products and services be allowed to be charged the citizens in this nation when all is said and done ?

With all the differences in class or levels that people are on in this nation, then shouldn't it be that there is a way to get a good price in which put's many healthcare product's or services in line more with being available to far more Americans? Wouldn't it be better for all, and done in a more fair and reasonable cost to us all ? I think there are laws against gouging right now anyways right? But are they actually enforced ever anymore ? Now if you are in a supply and demand chain where you are moving millions of cheap or good products at a time, then all I can say is you are one rich person is what you are. Bill Gates comes to mind, and Henry Ford for another example.

Now I am not for government intervention in any of these ways, but if things get to out of line then who brings the balance back into play ? The whole thing is rigged really, and some are pawns, while others are just sick abusive control freaks being allowed to rape and pilage without consequence for their own self interest. .

 

[beagle9]

. Why are you so selfish, that you care about no one but yourself in life ? Greed is not just earning your own money, but rather it is the taking of more than you have earned, and when this happens it is robbing from someone else. The greedy are somehow smart enough though, to keep everyone just one step behind them and their bull crap.

You know if people were more decent human beings in their lives than what they are these days, then the balance in society would be more acceptable to most. Now how to fix that in order to change the mindset of the nation is really tough. Once peoples minds become so greedy and corrupt, then government becomes stronger and stronger trying to counter it, and to keep the fall out to a minimum. The situation we have today in this nation is the result of a colliding of issues over time, and the result of people trying to seperate themselves from it all by ways of their gathering up as much as they can, then storing it in barns, and watching as a nation simply explodes from within.

The worse thing that has become the norm is this attitude of hey I got mine, and who gives a care about you? Many people are able to live with that, but their are those whom still want to help out and do the right thing in life. Now there is great problems that have resulted from class warfare in this nation, but sooner or later people have got to face the issues found within it all.

I personally think that if we had a government run by people we could trust, and it offered us an insurance plan that would be taken out of our incomes, and it only cost us around &5.00 dollars a week for a basic life sustaining coverage, then all the citizens would have absolutely no problem with it. Then what the basic plan doesn't cover, additional coverage should be purchased separately. Being a citizen of this United States should have some good things about it, and if people had their way today like many haters do wish for, they would crush this nation completely.

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Perhaps I can explain it better.

When it comes to government anything, you can't have it without it being politicized.

Do you think the intent of Commie Care was to have everybody insured? Of course not, the intent was to create as many more government dependents as they could while coming off as looking like the good guy.

When the nominees are picked, watch the discussions that take place between them during the debates. It's the same ole all the time. The Democrat candidate will tell people what the Republican candidate wants to take away from them.

So we have this national healthcare thing going on. Every presidential debate will be about how the Republicans want to take away your healthcare coverage, and that will insure Democrat leadership for a very long time. It's easy to scare people.

So I don't want it because it would create such opportunities for Democrats that we would slowly sink into Socialism or worse. Think of the SC judges Democrats would nominate!!!!

. Why not beat the dems with their own game, and beat them to the punch instead of always playing defence after you have poured their poison into your system ? The plan I offered would be such an easy plan to execute, and it would give a basic coverage to all whether they use it or not. And if they want more for things like face lifts, cosmetics, birth control, sex operations etc. Then they can purchase that type of coverage as something they choose to have on their own. The thing about the rich wanting a so called better coverage in which they would seek after also, is that if there is enough of them, and the market place knows this, then it will move to set prices based upon their needs mostly. This causes them to pay more for their care, and it causes us to have to pay extreme prices also. Not sure how this type of situation would be figured out but it needs to be always worked on.
In a time where their are so many rich in this nation anymore, it's so wonder the most of us can afford anything anymore. In fact if it we're not for the government, then how would it all play out ?

Funny how your plans always involve other people's money, then you call us greedy because you whaaa-nt our money and we don't want to give it to you

. Laugh... Give it to me eh ?

 

[kaz]

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Perhaps I can explain it better.

When it comes to government anything, you can't have it without it being politicized.

Do you think the intent of Commie Care was to have everybody insured? Of course not, the intent was to create as many more government dependents as they could while coming off as looking like the good guy.

When the nominees are picked, watch the discussions that take place between them during the debates. It's the same ole all the time. The Democrat candidate will tell people what the Republican candidate wants to take away from them.

So we have this national healthcare thing going on. Every presidential debate will be about how the Republicans want to take away your healthcare coverage, and that will insure Democrat leadership for a very long time. It's easy to scare people.

So I don't want it because it would create such opportunities for Democrats that we would slowly sink into Socialism or worse. Think of the SC judges Democrats would nominate!!!!

. Why not beat the dems with their own game, and beat them to the punch instead of always playing defence after you have poured their poison into your system ? The plan I offered would be such an easy plan to execute, and it would give a basic coverage to all whether they use it or not. And if they want more for things like face lifts, cosmetics, birth control, sex operations etc. Then they can purchase that type of coverage as something they choose to have on their own. The thing about the rich wanting a so called better coverage in which they would seek after also, is that if there is enough of them, and the market place knows this, then it will move to set prices based upon their needs mostly. This causes them to pay more for their care, and it causes us to have to pay extreme prices also. Not sure how this type of situation would be figured out but it needs to be always worked on.
In a time where their are so many rich in this nation anymore, it's so wonder the most of us can afford anything anymore. In fact if it we're not for the government, then how would it all play out ?

Funny how your plans always involve other people's money, then you call us greedy because you whaaa-nt our money and we don't want to give it to you

. Laugh... Give it to me eh ?

Absolutely. whether you have it in your hands or not, it's to go to your objectives, not mine. I believe in private charities, they are far more effective. Why do you think Buffett and Gates buy an army of accountants to evade taxes? Why don't they give government money? They always advocate it

 

[kaz]

I'm "selfish" because I want to decide who to help with my money rather than those who want my money taking it from me by force and doing what they want with it. You aren't selfish, wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned, I'm selfish for wanting to decide what to do with the money I earned.

Got it. go on, I'm writing this down

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Perhaps I can explain it better.

When it comes to government anything, you can't have it without it being politicized.

Do you think the intent of Commie Care was to have everybody insured? Of course not, the intent was to create as many more government dependents as they could while coming off as looking like the good guy.

When the nominees are picked, watch the discussions that take place between them during the debates. It's the same ole all the time. The Democrat candidate will tell people what the Republican candidate wants to take away from them.

So we have this national healthcare thing going on. Every presidential debate will be about how the Republicans want to take away your healthcare coverage, and that will insure Democrat leadership for a very long time. It's easy to scare people.

So I don't want it because it would create such opportunities for Democrats that we would slowly sink into Socialism or worse. Think of the SC judges Democrats would nominate!!!!

. Why not beat the dems with their own game, and beat them to the punch instead of always playing defence after you have poured their poison into your system ? The plan I offered would be such an easy plan to execute, and it would give a basic coverage to all whether they use it or not. And if they want more for things like face lifts, cosmetics, birth control, sex operations etc. Then they can purchase that type of coverage as something they choose to have on their own. The thing about the rich wanting a so called better coverage in which they would seek after also, is that if there is enough of them, and the market place knows this, then it will move to set prices based upon their needs mostly. This causes them to pay more for their care, and it causes us to have to pay extreme prices also. Not sure how this type of situation would be figured out but it needs to be always worked on.
In a time where their are so many rich in this nation anymore, it's so wonder the most of us can afford anything anymore. In fact if it we're not for the government, then how would it all play out ?

As I've said so many times before, if we could take all the so called poor (or as I call--lazy) out of our country, put them on an island somewhere, they would hardly be missed. In fact, our society would become stronger and better.

Do the exact same thing with our wealthy, and the country collapses. How many rich there are in the country doesn't determine what I can or cannot afford. That's based on the pay I bring home.

What are the solutions to our problems? Tax the rich!!!

Free college--tax the rich
Pay off our debt--tax the rich
Free healthcare--tax the rich
Repair our crumbling infrastructure--tax the rich
Renewable energy--tax the rich
Reduce our deficit--tax the rich
Take care of our homeless--tax the rich

John Stossel: Tax The Rich? The Rich Don't Have Enough. Really.

. No it's not about taxing the rich more than what is fair for them (that's idiotic thinking), but it could be more about price controls on some products and services offered maybe by the healthcare industry. Maybe an evaluation of products & services should be done as is needed, and then in the study and/or evaluation it is hopefully learned upon how much is fair for the producers to then place as a value on their products, along with their healthcare services offered in this country. Maybe a percentage could be agreed upon that is above cost for the sell and profit return expected, where as how much above the actual cost of a product to be produced should the percentage on the return be or how much should the profit be as the same ? The study would need to know how much the actual retai valuel would be after it has been handled by the producer and the retailer all the way to the shelf or how much the value of a service should be also ? Otherwise how much should products and services be allowed to be charged the citizens in this nation when all is said and done ? With all the differences in class or levels that people are on in this nation, then shouldn't it be that there is a way to get a good price in which put's many healthcare product's or services in line more with being available to far more Americans? Wouldn't it be better for all, and done in a more fair and reasonable cost to us all ? I think there are laws against gouging right now anyways right? But are they actually enforced ever anymore ? Now if you are in a supply and demand chain where you are moving millions of cheap or good products at a time, then all I can say is you are one rich person is what you are. Bill Gates comes to mind, and Henry Ford for another example. Now I am not for government intervention in any of these ways, but if things get to out of line then who brings the balance back into play ? The whole thing is rigged really, and some are pawns, while others are just sick abusive control freaks being allowed to rape and pilage without consequence for their own self interest. .

Government controlling the economy always leads to the same thing. Wealth for politicians and poverty for the rest of us. Look at the shitty economy we've had the last decade. Thank you Obama and W. Useless political hacks.

Now there's the "greed" you keep looking for

 

[beagle9]

Beagle wants a bigger TV and the greedy bastards won't buy it for him. he also wants to be a woman and they won't pay for the sex change. And they won't pay for his hair transplants or Viagra. Condoms? He's paying for them his own freaking self, it's not right. I mean he's paying for his own food and his own freaking visit to the doctor.

Meanwhile, greedy bastards who have the money he wants are spending the money they earned on their own selfish selves instead of giving it to him.

Gansta knows how to fix that problem, guns, baby. And government knows how to use them to get him what he wants. You just gotta elect the right guy to do it for you. It's all nice and clean, no fuss, no muss, free stuff...

. You are why the Republicans (if you claim to be one) are so stereotypical of a bunch of greedy heartless human beings as according to huge numbers in this nation now. Like I said before, what would you people do if you didn't have the poor folks in society to blanket label as being just bad people all around in society, and so you do this in order to cover up how you were out to steal from them in which made them poor in many cases also ? What you have stolen in the past from the system that you controlled with the help of government, and that you set up to get away with has been revealed. Now you all do flips just to keep the rest of the nation from knowing exactly how bad you really are in life, and it has come out over time now, and that is why you have lost elections for way to long when it comes to fixing things. The so called establishment Republican party needs to disenfranchise itself from some bad cats if they want to win the nation back, but as is being seen now, a Democrat in a repub shirt is actually who has to win it for the Republicans (I.e. Donald Trump), because they are to ignorant to win it with one of their own (I.e. Jeb Bush) or some others who have since fallen by the wayside..

No, I'm not a Republican. And you keep repeating that you are entitled to spend my money as you see fit. If I want to spend my money as I see fit I am "greedy" and "selfish." Do you have any other tunes to play or just that one?

And the ideas that charity is an act which is performed by government and no one else are both idiotic

. You keep claiming that your money is your money, (OK fair enough, and I feel the same way about what I've earned in life just as well), but how do I know how you came about your so called money ? How do I know how bad you have hurt society by taking more than you earned when you claimed you earned it, and then you haven't or won't give anything back because you are to selfish and greedy to do so ? How do I know how many there are out there like you ? Hey if you don't fit the profile, then keep on fighting is what I say about it all. However if you do fit the profile then you reveal your greed and selfishness in society with every word spoken. Like a wise man once said to.me, " if you make a dollar and make it right, then it will settle right on down in your pocket, and it will be there, but if you make a dollar wrong, then it will jump around, and jump around until it jumps right out". You just can't hold onto it. Hey I'm against all the mismanagement in our government, the private sector etc., but within it all we should be able to make healthcare a right under a certain program that is agreed upon by a majority in this nation.

Gotcha, if you don't know how I earned my money, then you're free to take it with guns. Again it's my greed that keeps me from agreeing to you confiscating my money and your ability to buy votes with it. Shame on me. You robbing people with guns, or politicians doing it on your behalf? You don't see any greed in that!

If it is greed, then who is greedier? The one who makes money and wants to keep it, or one that doesn't make money and wants yours?

. Why all this ridiculous analogies, when the issue is far more complex than something as simple as your answers in this way ? I guess it's just junk food for the low information gullible voter out there is what it is. No one is wanting a dime of what someone else has or has earned, but rather just a fair and just option to participate just like the next human being has for his or her care. Why wouldn't any American want their fellow American to have equal access to quality care on demand, unless you are of course in favor of class warfare, and you look at your fellow Americans as either they are given the OK by you to join in or they should be left to die like dogs by you, so which is it ? Now remember that all sorts of stereo typing has gone on here, so which category do you place people in, and then should you be the one making the call as to their value of life or not ?

 

[beagle9]

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Perhaps I can explain it better.

When it comes to government anything, you can't have it without it being politicized.

Do you think the intent of Commie Care was to have everybody insured? Of course not, the intent was to create as many more government dependents as they could while coming off as looking like the good guy.

When the nominees are picked, watch the discussions that take place between them during the debates. It's the same ole all the time. The Democrat candidate will tell people what the Republican candidate wants to take away from them.

So we have this national healthcare thing going on. Every presidential debate will be about how the Republicans want to take away your healthcare coverage, and that will insure Democrat leadership for a very long time. It's easy to scare people.

So I don't want it because it would create such opportunities for Democrats that we would slowly sink into Socialism or worse. Think of the SC judges Democrats would nominate!!!!

. Why not beat the dems with their own game, and beat them to the punch instead of always playing defence after you have poured their poison into your system ? The plan I offered would be such an easy plan to execute, and it would give a basic coverage to all whether they use it or not. And if they want more for things like face lifts, cosmetics, birth control, sex operations etc. Then they can purchase that type of coverage as something they choose to have on their own. The thing about the rich wanting a so called better coverage in which they would seek after also, is that if there is enough of them, and the market place knows this, then it will move to set prices based upon their needs mostly. This causes them to pay more for their care, and it causes us to have to pay extreme prices also. Not sure how this type of situation would be figured out but it needs to be always worked on.
In a time where their are so many rich in this nation anymore, it's so wonder the most of us can afford anything anymore. In fact if it we're not for the government, then how would it all play out ?

Funny how your plans always involve other people's money, then you call us greedy because you whaaa-nt our money and we don't want to give it to you

. Laugh... Give it to me eh ?

Absolutely. whether you have it in your hands or not, it's to go to your objectives, not mine. I believe in private charities, they are far more effective. Why do you think Buffett and Gates buy an army of accountants to evade taxes? Why don't they give government money? They always advocate it

I would participate in a group plan in that so you could have a great rate on your healthcare in a skinny minute, because I would know that I would get the same in return. Just comes down to who is handling the account, and can it be trusted. We have work to do in this nation.

 

[beagle9]

. You are selfish for not wanting to fix the problem, and government can help to fix the problems if it is trusted and managed right. Your problem is not with me, but your problem is you hate anything government, and you ain't the only one. Now if the government is won by the Republicans, would you support it then ? I bet you wouldn't then either would you. You just hate government, and in alot of ways I can't blame you really. But how does it get fixed then ? It sure don't by attitudes such as yours. The private insurance was scamming us bad before Obama ever came along, and there was also a problem with it before Bill Clinton came along as well. The providers were even scamming the government with double billing and Medicare fraud and you name it. Why is it when people want to fix something, all the fat rata come out the wood works to stop anything from helping the citizens in this nation ?

Perhaps I can explain it better.

When it comes to government anything, you can't have it without it being politicized.

Do you think the intent of Commie Care was to have everybody insured? Of course not, the intent was to create as many more government dependents as they could while coming off as looking like the good guy.

When the nominees are picked, watch the discussions that take place between them during the debates. It's the same ole all the time. The Democrat candidate will tell people what the Republican candidate wants to take away from them.

So we have this national healthcare thing going on. Every presidential debate will be about how the Republicans want to take away your healthcare coverage, and that will insure Democrat leadership for a very long time. It's easy to scare people.

So I don't want it because it would create such opportunities for Democrats that we would slowly sink into Socialism or worse. Think of the SC judges Democrats would nominate!!!!

. Why not beat the dems with their own game, and beat them to the punch instead of always playing defence after you have poured their poison into your system ? The plan I offered would be such an easy plan to execute, and it would give a basic coverage to all whether they use it or not. And if they want more for things like face lifts, cosmetics, birth control, sex operations etc. Then they can purchase that type of coverage as something they choose to have on their own. The thing about the rich wanting a so called better coverage in which they would seek after also, is that if there is enough of them, and the market place knows this, then it will move to set prices based upon their needs mostly. This causes them to pay more for their care, and it causes us to have to pay extreme prices also. Not sure how this type of situation would be figured out but it needs to be always worked on.
In a time where their are so many rich in this nation anymore, it's so wonder the most of us can afford anything anymore. In fact if it we're not for the government, then how would it all play out ?

As I've said so many times before, if we could take all the so called poor (or as I call--lazy) out of our country, put them on an island somewhere, they would hardly be missed. In fact, our society would become stronger and better.

Do the exact same thing with our wealthy, and the country collapses. How many rich there are in the country doesn't determine what I can or cannot afford. That's based on the pay I bring home.

What are the solutions to our problems? Tax the rich!!!

Free college--tax the rich
Pay off our debt--tax the rich
Free healthcare--tax the rich
Repair our crumbling infrastructure--tax the rich
Renewable energy--tax the rich
Reduce our deficit--tax the rich
Take care of our homeless--tax the rich

John Stossel: Tax The Rich? The Rich Don't Have Enough. Really.

. No it's not about taxing the rich more than what is fair for them (that's idiotic thinking), but it could be more about price controls on some products and services offered maybe by the healthcare industry. Maybe an evaluation of products & services should be done as is needed, and then in the study and/or evaluation it is hopefully learned upon how much is fair for the producers to then place as a value on their products, along with their healthcare services offered in this country. Maybe a percentage could be agreed upon that is above cost for the sell and profit return expected, where as how much above the actual cost of a product to be produced should the percentage on the return be or how much should the profit be as the same ? The study would need to know how much the actual retai valuel would be after it has been handled by the producer and the retailer all the way to the shelf or how much the value of a service should be also ? Otherwise how much should products and services be allowed to be charged the citizens in this nation when all is said and done ? With all the differences in class or levels that people are on in this nation, then shouldn't it be that there is a way to get a good price in which put's many healthcare product's or services in line more with being available to far more Americans? Wouldn't it be better for all, and done in a more fair and reasonable cost to us all ? I think there are laws against gouging right now anyways right? But are they actually enforced ever anymore ? Now if you are in a supply and demand chain where you are moving millions of cheap or good products at a time, then all I can say is you are one rich person is what you are. Bill Gates comes to mind, and Henry Ford for another example. Now I am not for government intervention in any of these ways, but if things get to out of line then who brings the balance back into play ? The whole thing is rigged really, and some are pawns, while others are just sick abusive control freaks being allowed to rape and pilage without consequence for their own self interest. .

Government controlling the economy always leads to the same thing. Wealth for politicians and poverty for the rest of us. Look at the shitty economy we've had the last decade. Thank you Obama and W. Useless political hacks.

Now there's the "greed" you keep looking for

. Don't know really, because the free market has had control for years and years, but the gap just kept widening more and more. It appears that the government was actually forced in by them, and was actually given the prize to rule with a heavier hand by the people who were fed up with being abused in some of the crucial market place's that were dealing in class warfare within the system that was at hand. The rich brought alot of this pain upon themselves, but they won't admit it for nothing.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

. You are why the Republicans (if you claim to be one) are so stereotypical of a bunch of greedy heartless human beings as according to huge numbers in this nation now. Like I said before, what would you people do if you didn't have the poor folks in society to blanket label as being just bad people all around in society, and so you do this in order to cover up how you were out to steal from them in which made them poor in many cases also ? What you have stolen in the past from the system that you controlled with the help of government, and that you set up to get away with has been revealed. Now you all do flips just to keep the rest of the nation from knowing exactly how bad you really are in life, and it has come out over time now, and that is why you have lost elections for way to long when it comes to fixing things. The so called establishment Republican party needs to disenfranchise itself from some bad cats if they want to win the nation back, but as is being seen now, a Democrat in a repub shirt is actually who has to win it for the Republicans (I.e. Donald Trump), because they are to ignorant to win it with one of their own (I.e. Jeb Bush) or some others who have since fallen by the wayside..

No, I'm not a Republican. And you keep repeating that you are entitled to spend my money as you see fit. If I want to spend my money as I see fit I am "greedy" and "selfish." Do you have any other tunes to play or just that one?

And the ideas that charity is an act which is performed by government and no one else are both idiotic

. You keep claiming that your money is your money, (OK fair enough, and I feel the same way about what I've earned in life just as well), but how do I know how you came about your so called money ? How do I know how bad you have hurt society by taking more than you earned when you claimed you earned it, and then you haven't or won't give anything back because you are to selfish and greedy to do so ? How do I know how many there are out there like you ? Hey if you don't fit the profile, then keep on fighting is what I say about it all. However if you do fit the profile then you reveal your greed and selfishness in society with every word spoken. Like a wise man once said to.me, " if you make a dollar and make it right, then it will settle right on down in your pocket, and it will be there, but if you make a dollar wrong, then it will jump around, and jump around until it jumps right out". You just can't hold onto it. Hey I'm against all the mismanagement in our government, the private sector etc., but within it all we should be able to make healthcare a right under a certain program that is agreed upon by a majority in this nation.

Gotcha, if you don't know how I earned my money, then you're free to take it with guns. Again it's my greed that keeps me from agreeing to you confiscating my money and your ability to buy votes with it. Shame on me. You robbing people with guns, or politicians doing it on your behalf? You don't see any greed in that!

If it is greed, then who is greedier? The one who makes money and wants to keep it, or one that doesn't make money and wants yours?

. Why all this ridiculous analogies, when the issue is far more complex than something as simple as your answers in this way ? I guess it's just junk food for the low information gullible voter out there is what it is. No one is wanting a dime of what someone else has or has earned, but rather just a fair and just option to participate just like the next human being has for his or her care. Why wouldn't any American want their fellow American to have equal access to quality care on demand, unless you are of course in favor of class warfare, and you look at your fellow Americans as either they are given the OK by you to join in or they should be left to die like dogs by you, so which is it ? Now remember that all sorts of stereo typing has gone on here, so which category do you place people in, and then should you be the one making the call as to their value of life or not ?

Of course they want the wealthy to pay for everything. Look at other social issue topics on this forum. All the liberals state we should be taking more money from those who have it, or as they comfortably like to say, PAY THEIR FAIR SHARE!!!

Whenever they discuss having this or that, and we ask how they want it to be paid for, they always reply with Tax The Rich!!!!

National healthcare would be no different. The Democrats would make sure the wealthy pay the most and get the least. That's the way they always want it.