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Butthurt leftists.Congress can authorize a war. The alleged "illegality" of that war is not yours to define and your willingness to add that dishonest modifier doesn't make it any less bullshit. Further, the UN Resolutions meant more to us than they did to the UN. Other than that, though, terrific post.
Your ranting and chanting does not change the fact that the war was internationally illegal.
According to who?
Maybe you should go perform a citizen's arrest on behalf of the world.And on that note, Congress never made an official declaration of war and the President does not have the authority to start one, that's one crime...The sovereignty of our United States resides in the States and the Federal Government. The international community has no sovereignty nor any jurisdiction over us.
The highest law of our land is the Constitution. It's the Constitution that dicatates what makes a war legal or not. Nothing else.
...and we attacked in violation of Article 51 of the UN Charter, a treaty that was ratified by Congress, making it carry the same weight as the aforementioned Constitution.
Bush and Cheney guilty on two counts.
I didn't even have to pull the torture card...
Congress can authorize a war. The alleged "illegality" of that war is not yours to define and your willingness to add that dishonest modifier doesn't make it any less bullshit. Further, the UN Resolutions meant more to us than they did to the UN. Other than that, though, terrific post.
Your ranting and chanting does not change the fact that the war was internationally illegal.
According to who?
Read the OP, then read the posts, and you will have answered the real question: you twist information to your ideology instead of twisting your ideology to the facts.
Oh, I've heard of it. It contains specific set of conditions the President must follow in order to introduce US troops in hostile areas. Bush didn't comply with those conditions. He's the "decider", you know.Count one: Apparently you have not heard of the War Powers Act.
I'm very familiar with that document. Bush had no authority to unilaterally decide for the UNSC if Iraq was in violation of it and what coarse of action should be taken. Any possible violations were to be referred back to the Security Counsel for review. And any violations would be presented to the UNSC in the form of Hans Blix reports. No report of his stated they were in violation of 1441. The worst thing they said was that Iraq could cooperate more.Count two: Did you hear about UN Security Council Resolution 1441?
You jump to conclusions, based on what you would like to believe.You are not very well informed.
Maylasia is a muslim country, Truthmatters, and it appears it is hostile to important conservative citizens in your country.it does mean Bush and team cant travel overseas.
they can be taken away to jail if they do
Maylasia is a muslim country, Truthmatters, and it appears it is hostile to important conservative citizens in your country.it does mean Bush and team cant travel overseas.
they can be taken away to jail if they do
Whose side are you on? America's or the Muslim nation?
Because if they are threatening Muslim harm against any of us, they are threatening all of us. Got it?
There were 746 advisors in country when Kennedy took office and there were 16,300 'advisors' when Kennedy was killed. And you blame this on Ike?
End of conversation.
congrats,again like you have done everytme since you got on here since your very first pitiful post,your posts keep getting more pitiful in each attempt to avoid admitting defeat.lol I LOVE how you keep dodging that link of mine I posted.Nice dodge.
you wont address any of the information in there because you either one-dont know how to click on a link or 2-you have a reading comprehension problem.
obviously its number two since you have not addressed one single item in that link I brought up.congrats in demostrating your pathetic debating skills.
I am going to try for the third and FINAL time since you keep dodging this and refuse to answer it. what part of this statement do you not get that the news media showed on the screen in sept 1963 when Walter Kronkite interviewed Kennedy and they displayed on the screen 82 combat casualtys?
you not only have a reading comprehension problem,you have a counting problem as well.
I have mentioned this TWICE and since you ignored it both times I am having to bring it up for the THIRD time,and ask how is it that kennedy esculated the war when there was only 82 american casualtys in sept 1963 where when in Johnson and Nixons terms,there was a combined 58,000 by wars end?
Yep JFK esculated it,not LBJ.comedy gold.
AGAIN you should have taken my advise and quit while you had the chance instead of trying to save face and avoid admitting defeat cause again as always,you get egg on your face and just like from the very first post all you did was prove your wrong and I am right for me. are you that much of am imbecile and idiot that you dont know what the difference is between what an ADVISOR and a combat troop is? wait dont answer that.
I know your so brainwashed and in denial so I know this will do know good in trying to reason with your warped mind but hate to break your heart but johnson sent in COMBAT troops,kennedy only sent in more ADVISORS like you keep saying.The ADVISORS trained the south vietnamese how to fight and protect themselves,they did not particpate in combat.
end of coversation alright.
I already said that,you just keep ignoring that you lost our chess game a long time ago and cant face facts.
do you REALLY want to keep entertaining me with your stupidity? I can do this all day long,I dont care.its your ignorance you want to keep showing to the whole world.lol.
the fact that DUNCEMAN thanked you just shows how incredibly ignorant you really are.
nuff said.
Dunceman is like yourself,he runs away from defeat all the time like you keep doing and always in his his stupidity like you keep doing in your posts all the time,dodges facts as well.two birds of a feather.
if you have anyone on ignore....that means your a pussy and cant handle that person......that person then wins....pussy....
Oh please give me a fucking break.disinfo agents Moron In The Hat and Liar Ability are such sad little trolls they are just here seeking attention.Their debating skills are so pathetic they have to make up lies to try and save face in their posts when they are defeated and just repeat the same old garbage over and over again.
I used try to tell fellow truthers dont feed those agent trolls and give them the attention they seek but they are too stupid to listen and they give it them all the time so I no longer try and tell them anymore. hense his user name LIAR ability MANY people call him.and Moron In That Hat was caught making up once making up things saying witnesses said things in a video they never said in that video when challeneged to watch it.Thats what those trolls ALWAYS do is make up lies when they cant deal with facts that prove them wrong.so give me a freaking break.
I have better things to do that waste it on childish trolls seeking attention who whine to mods like the crybabys they are over an innocent joke. Rat did it with me and I have seen Liar ability do it with a couple others before.those crybabys go whining to them all the time. I dont debate children like that.
one thing those guys dont do is whine like you are doing.....and like i said....put someone on ignore because they make you cry....means they win.....so are you still a pussy?....or are you facing them here in the forum?....
so they sure as hell are pussys,again thats being a complete idiot to feed the trolls which is what I would do if i took their bait and gave them the attention they seek. Lying to avoid defeat like those trolls do is being a pussy idiot.you just cant see what idiots they are.oh you are one as well so of course you cant see that.Oh, I've heard of it. It contains specific set of conditions the President must follow in order to introduce US troops in hostile areas. Bush didn't comply with those conditions. He's the "decider", you know.Count one: Apparently you have not heard of the War Powers Act.
I'm very familiar with that document. Bush had no authority to unilaterally decide for the UNSC if Iraq was in violation of it and what coarse of action should be taken. Any possible violations were to be referred back to the Security Counsel for review. And any violations would be presented to the UNSC in the form of Hans Blix reports. No report of his stated they were in violation of 1441. The worst thing they said was that Iraq could cooperate more.Count two: Did you hear about UN Security Council Resolution 1441?
You jump to conclusions, based on what you would like to believe.You are not very well informed.
congrats,again like you have done everytme since you got on here since your very first pitiful post,your posts keep getting more pitiful in each attempt to avoid admitting defeat.lol I LOVE how you keep dodging that link of mine I posted.Nice dodge.
you wont address any of the information in there because you either one-dont know how to click on a link or 2-you have a reading comprehension problem.
obviously its number two since you have not addressed one single item in that link I brought up.
I am going to try for the third and FINAL time since you keep dodging this and refuse to answer it. what part of this statement do you not get that the news media showed on the screen in sept 1963 when Walter Kronkite interviewed Kennedy and they displayed on the screen 82 combat casualtys?
you not only have a reading comprehension problem,you have a counting problem as well.
I have mentioned this TWICE and since you ignored it both times I am having to bring it up for the THIRD time,and ask how is it that kennedy esculated the war when there was only 82 american casualtys in sept 1963 where when in Johnson and Nixons terms,there was a combined 58,000 by wars end?
Yep JFK esculated it,not LBJ.comedy gold.
AGAIN you should have taken my advise and quit while you had the chance instead of trying to save face and avoid admitting defeat cause again as always,you get egg on your face and just like from the very first post all you did was prove your wrong and I am right for me. are you that much of am imbecile and idiot that you dont know what the difference is between what an ADVISOR and a combat troop is? wait dont answer that.
I know your so brainwashed and in denial so I know this will do know good in trying to reason with your warped mind but hate to break your heart but johnson sent in COMBAT troops,kennedy only sent in more ADVISORS like you keep saying.The ADVISORS trained the south vietnamese how to fight and protect themselves,they did not particopate in combat.
end of coversation alright.I already said that,you just keep ignroing that you lost out chess game and cant face facts.
the fact that DUNCEMAN thanked you just shows how incredibly ignorant you really are.
nuff said.
Dunceman is like yourself,he runs away from defeat all the time like you keep doing and always his stupidity like you keep doing in your posts all the time.two birds of a feather.
Oh please give me a fucking break.disinfo agents Moron In The Hat and Liar Ability are such sad little trolls they are just here seeking attention.Their debating skills are so pathetic they have to make up lies to try and save face in their posts when they are defeated and just repeat the same old garbage over and over again.
I used try to tell fellow truthers dont feed those agent trolls and give them the attention they seek but they are too stupid to listen and they give it them all the time so I no longer try and tell them anymore. hense his user name LIAR ability MANY people call him.and Moron In That Hat was caught making up once making up things saying witnesses said things in a video they never said in that video when challeneged to watch it.Thats what those trolls ALWAYS do is make up lies when they cant deal with facts that prove them wrong.so give me a freaking break.
I have better things to do that waste it on childish trolls seeking attention who whine to mods like the crybabys they are over an innocent joke. Rat did it with me and I have seen Liar ability do it with a couple others before.those crybabys go whining to them all the time. I dont debate children like that.
one thing those guys dont do is whine like you are doing.....and like i said....put someone on ignore because they make you cry....means they win.....so are you still a pussy?....or are you facing them here in the forum?....
your full of crap as always,they are both crybabys and sure as hell do whine.
they cant take a joke and they go whining to the mods about it.
The actions of the American left have shown they do not believe they will be harmed by radical Islam...right up to the point their heads are sawed off with a dull knife. "No! Wait! I deFENded you on the internegurlgle gurgle...!"Maylasia is a muslim country, Truthmatters, and it appears it is hostile to important conservative citizens in your country.it does mean Bush and team cant travel overseas.
they can be taken away to jail if they do
Whose side are you on? America's or the Muslim nation?
Because if they are threatening Muslim harm against any of us, they are threatening all of us. Got it?
How many casualties had there been when Kennedy took office? Answer: 2 (3 if you count the one killed by a fellow US serviceman.
80 more under Kennedy (4000% increase)
How many troops did Ike send? Answer: 900
16,000 by the Kennedy assassination (1778% increase)
Sounds like escalation, to me, regardless of whether they were called "advisors" or "combat troops"
At least Lyndon turned them loose and let them defend themselves.
what part of that sentence of he only had the advisors train the south vietnamese how to defend themselves and learn combat do you not understand? Its a well known fact through documents released in the 90's and conversations with his aides that Kennedys policys differed vastly different form IKES.
Johnson and Nixon had his troops go out and murder innocent vietnamese people.unarmed pheasants consisting of old women and children besides old men.That never happened under kennedy. Dick Nixon was the other mass murderer who murdered the other half of the 58,000. do you guys ever get tired of getting egg on your face with your with ramblings?one thing those guys dont do is whine like you are doing.....and like i said....put someone on ignore because they make you cry....means they win.....so are you still a pussy?....or are you facing them here in the forum?....
your full of crap as always,they are both crybabys and sure as hell do whine.
they cant take a joke and they go whining to the mods about it.
full of crap as always
as always?.....the first time i have seen your whinny ass was this week...
they cant take a joke and they go whining to the mods about it
kinda like what your doing here.....whining....
you just cant see what idiots they are.oh you are one as well so of course you cant see that
are you going to go and cry now?....hey Chris !! .....give this fucker a Hug.....he is upset and he is about to lose it....i dont want to see any more Whining....
Moron In the Hat goes and whines to the mods over a small innocent joke I made that had something to do with the words cheese and nosiop spelled backwarks..I cant say anymore about it or he'll again go and whine to the mods about it like the crybaby he is. I spelled that one word backwards even to make sure he doesnt have any ammunition to give to the mods when he tries to whine about it to the mods again as a matter of fact. Im having way too much fun watching them get egg on their face especially with Too Stupid. anyways this is a stupid conversation and isnt even on the topic so come back when you want to actually discuss the topic otherwise Im done with you.
your full of crap as always,they are both crybabys and sure as hell do whine.
they cant take a joke and they go whining to the mods about it.
full of crap as always
as always?.....the first time i have seen your whinny ass was this week...
they cant take a joke and they go whining to the mods about it
kinda like what your doing here.....whining....
you just cant see what idiots they are.oh you are one as well so of course you cant see that
are you going to go and cry now?....hey Chris !! .....give this fucker a Hug.....he is upset and he is about to lose it....i dont want to see any more Whining....
Nope Im not whining,Im just explaining WHY I have them on ignore idiot.
Liar Ability I have seen at LEAST twice whine to the mods about something some other poster said to him before.Thats how immature those crybabys are but thats not why I have them on ignore.
AGAIN its because they seek attention and are only here to troll.When they get backed into a corner and are losing an argument ,they have to lie to try and save face in their posts to avoid admitting defeat like the chickenshit cowards they are.The more I play their game and give them the attention the trolls seek I am feeding the trolls.I dont feed trolls.
See I am not going to put Too Tall or this other poster I just replied to on ignore because they dont tell lies to try and avoid defeat and their not seeking attention.They amuse me the way they keep grasping at straws trying to avoid defeat and wont answer any questions I ask them or address ONE SINGLE ITEM of facts brought up to them ina link I posted by making one laughable post more laughable and more ignorant than the previous one.
THEY amuse me and they dont lie when they are defeated so Im not about to put them on ignore.
