SweetSue92
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Yeah yeah. 'Pocahontas' is a term of respect, fer shure.Americans don't despise the Indians.
Trump uses that for a woman who TOOK ON A FAKE IDENTITY, not for a real native American.
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Yeah yeah. 'Pocahontas' is a term of respect, fer shure.Americans don't despise the Indians.
Yup......it's started.
New Zealand Christians Outraged as Govt Removes All References to Jesus From Parliamentary Prayer
03-30-2019
Steve Warren
Just barely two weeks following the mosque shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, the government has decided to remove all references to Jesus Christ from its parliamentary prayer.
The move by Speaker of the House Trevor Mallard has angered the country's Christian population. Mallard made the decision in order to drop references to Jesus in order to make the prayer "more inclusive" for all parliamentarians.
The Guardian reports a reference to "Almighty God" remains, but it is not a specific reference to a Christian God.
Earlier this week, around 1,000 people protested just outside of the parliament building in Wellington. The group wanted Jesus name reinstated in the prayer because Christianity is part of the nation's history.
Ross Smith, the organizer of the event, told Radio NZ the country has a Christian heritage that should not be erased.
"It's a legacy. The principals and the values that are in this nation are based on our Christian-Judea roots. Removing the name would destroy those roots," he said.
"He needs a good kick in his pants, and he needs to actually be removed because this is a Christian nation," protester Rieki Teutscher told Radio NZ. We don't share his atheism."
Another demonstrator, Carmel Morgan, said Mallard should have consulted with New Zealanders or announced a referendum before changing the prayer.
"This is a land of democracy, this is a land of freedom, you know, we want to be a first world country... he took that choice away from us."
Other New Zealand politicians also voiced their concern over the change made by the speaker without consulting the entire parliament.
Well, the decision as to what should be changed should be made by parliamentarians and not the speaker – that's our position, I don't mind telling you publicly," deputy prime minister Winston Peters told RadioNZ.
"If you're going to make a change let's have parliament decide – not one person," Peters added.
Mallard said he had consulted other politicians and the majority he spoke to were in favor of a secular prayer.
One week after a white supremacist gunman opened fire inside two mosques, killing 50 people, the entire country observed a Muslim call to prayer. The event was televised nationwide. New Zealand Christians Outraged as Govt Removes All References to Jesus From Parliamentary Prayer
Yeah, no contempt there, no way.And there it is. We do not "despise our native population" but see it as it is.
You mean he didn't try to disparage with an Indian name? You can't even see it, can you?Trump uses that for a woman who TOOK ON A FAKE IDENTITY, not for a real native American.
Yeah yeah. 'Pocahontas' is a term of respect, fer shure.Americans don't despise the Indians.
Apparently the mention of "Almighty God" wasn't sufficient recognition enough for those so desperately seeking to feel victimized.
Are you attempting to claim that the article linked in the op is wrong and that the NZ government did NOT purposefully and actively attempt to purge from the public prayer any Christian references?
No, I am mocking the whiners laboring under the delusion that the goverment of New Zealand has removed Jesus from their lives. The only people that can remove Jesus from your life is you.
I saw no one in the OP make that claim.
The op was full of people discussing the removal of Christianity from a public prayer.
Did you not read the title of the thread that brought you here?
Ah, so your point was not aimed at the actual issue, but at the person presenting the issue, got it.
So, what do you think of that actions of the New Zealand government in purging Christian references from a public prayer?
Yeah, no contempt there, no way.And there it is. We do not "despise our native population" but see it as it is.
I agree it has no place in Parliament.For some, the usage of "Almighty God" in a convocation is an act of oppression.
It's not a rumor. It's written in the Koran.Yup......it's started.
New Zealand Christians Outraged as Govt Removes All References to Jesus From Parliamentary Prayer
03-30-2019
Steve Warren
Just barely two weeks following the mosque shootings in Christchurch, New Zealand, the government has decided to remove all references to Jesus Christ from its parliamentary prayer.
The move by Speaker of the House Trevor Mallard has angered the country's Christian population. Mallard made the decision in order to drop references to Jesus in order to make the prayer "more inclusive" for all parliamentarians.
The Guardian reports a reference to "Almighty God" remains, but it is not a specific reference to a Christian God.
Earlier this week, around 1,000 people protested just outside of the parliament building in Wellington. The group wanted Jesus name reinstated in the prayer because Christianity is part of the nation's history.
Ross Smith, the organizer of the event, told Radio NZ the country has a Christian heritage that should not be erased.
"It's a legacy. The principals and the values that are in this nation are based on our Christian-Judea roots. Removing the name would destroy those roots," he said.
"He needs a good kick in his pants, and he needs to actually be removed because this is a Christian nation," protester Rieki Teutscher told Radio NZ. We don't share his atheism."
Another demonstrator, Carmel Morgan, said Mallard should have consulted with New Zealanders or announced a referendum before changing the prayer.
"This is a land of democracy, this is a land of freedom, you know, we want to be a first world country... he took that choice away from us."
Other New Zealand politicians also voiced their concern over the change made by the speaker without consulting the entire parliament.
Well, the decision as to what should be changed should be made by parliamentarians and not the speaker – that's our position, I don't mind telling you publicly," deputy prime minister Winston Peters told RadioNZ.
"If you're going to make a change let's have parliament decide – not one person," Peters added.
Mallard said he had consulted other politicians and the majority he spoke to were in favor of a secular prayer.
One week after a white supremacist gunman opened fire inside two mosques, killing 50 people, the entire country observed a Muslim call to prayer. The event was televised nationwide. New Zealand Christians Outraged as Govt Removes All References to Jesus From Parliamentary Prayer
There is no truth to the rumor that the government has plans to change Christchurch to Mohammedmosque.
Yeah, no contempt there, no way.And there it is. We do not "despise our native population" but see it as it is.
I am not a religious person, but Secular Progressives are ruining society. They worship the STATE, which is a collection of flawed human beings that just want power, and to control you. They don't worship a higher power, nor the idea of one. This is the basis of Totalitarianism.
Yeah yeah. 'Pocahontas' is a term of respect, fer shure.Americans don't despise the Indians.
On a thread in which I often participate here, right wingers use the fact that a poster taught on a reservation and had an Indian wife as an insult. That is hardly projection on my part.Then, you project all that wrong on America, who does NOT worship their natives with pomp and circumstance like you wonderful, enlightened NZ do
Are you attempting to claim that the article linked in the op is wrong and that the NZ government did NOT purposefully and actively attempt to purge from the public prayer any Christian references?
No, I am mocking the whiners laboring under the delusion that the goverment of New Zealand has removed Jesus from their lives. The only people that can remove Jesus from your life is you.
I saw no one in the OP make that claim.
The op was full of people discussing the removal of Christianity from a public prayer.
Did you not read the title of the thread that brought you here?
Ah, so your point was not aimed at the actual issue, but at the person presenting the issue, got it.
So, what do you think of that actions of the New Zealand government in purging Christian references from a public prayer?
My points are that some people are making a mountain out of molehill in a lame attempt to feel oppressed and that only *you* have the power to remove Jesus from your life, not the goverment. For some, the usage of "Almighty God" in a convocation is an act of oppression.
Yeah....how dare Trump make fun of a complete fake who is constantly critical of his policies and makes up shit about his character.You mean he didn't try to disparage with an Indian name? You can't even see it, can you?Trump uses that for a woman who TOOK ON A FAKE IDENTITY, not for a real native American.
But anyway, we are a secular nation, this is long overdue.
I'm starting to think YHWH must be a pretty puny god if he needs this much protection from mere mortals.