New York Times: ACORN - Tuning In Too Late

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Ideologicly driven editorial authority of the New York Times ignored Acorn's corruption for way to long. How believable is that they were unaware of this story until after Senate vote? It's even easier to believe in Obama words that tax is not a tax, then in NYT excuse...

ON Sept. 12, an Associated Press article inside The Times reported that the Census Bureau had severed its ties to Acorn, the community organizing group. Robert Groves, the census director, was quoted as saying that Acorn, one of thousands of unpaid organizations promoting the 2010 census, had become “a distraction.”

Tuning In Too Late
 
Two wars, countries with nuclear weapons....and Fox is still stuck on stupid with acorn. Ok, we get it...hookers and ho's. Big woop.
 
Ame®icano;1561330 said:
Ideologicly driven editorial authority of the New York Times ignored Acorn's corruption for way to long. How believable is that they were unaware of this story until after Senate vote? It's even easier to believe in Obama words that tax is not a tax, then in NYT excuse...

ON Sept. 12, an Associated Press article inside The Times reported that the Census Bureau had severed its ties to Acorn, the community organizing group. Robert Groves, the census director, was quoted as saying that Acorn, one of thousands of unpaid organizations promoting the 2010 census, had become “a distraction.”

Tuning In Too Late

Some stories, lacking facts, never catch fire. But others do, and a newspaper like The Times needs to be alert to them or wind up looking clueless or, worse, partisan itself.

The New York Times might look clueless or partisan??? :lol:

They don't have a clue. :cuckoo:
 
Two wars, countries with nuclear weapons....and Fox is still stuck on stupid with acorn. Ok, we get it...hookers and ho's. Big woop.

Who's talking about Fox here but you?

This is about New York Times. At least they admitted they were wrong. Learn from it.
 
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Funny thing about Acorn is they turned in the individuals that registered cartoon characters. They did it. Not the government. Wonder why the media doessn't report that? Also, I never heard of anyone actually voting whose name was Mickey Mouse.

Acorn also fired those crazy people.

Terrible organization. They register people to vote. Help poor people with their taxes. Help people find jobs. What a bunch of creeps. Who need 'em?
 
Funny thing about Acorn is they turned in the individuals that registered cartoon characters. They did it. Not the government. Wonder why the media doessn't report that? Also, I never heard of anyone actually voting whose name was Mickey Mouse.

Acorn also fired those crazy people.

Terrible organization. They register people to vote. Help poor people with their taxes. Help people find jobs. What a bunch of creeps. Who need 'em?

I'm wondering, do we know how many of people that ACORN registered to vote, voted?
 
Funny thing about Acorn is they turned in the individuals that registered cartoon characters. They did it. Not the government. Wonder why the media doessn't report that? Also, I never heard of anyone actually voting whose name was Mickey Mouse.

Acorn also fired those crazy people.

Terrible organization. They register people to vote. Help poor people with their taxes. Help people find jobs. What a bunch of creeps. Who need 'em?

How and why do the poor need help, and I dont mean in your opinion, I mean explain a real situation you are familiar with, also tell me why that is the task of a Democratic political group funded by legislation passed by the democrats.

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Fraud Map :: Rotten Acorn ::
State Year Details
AR 1998 A contractor with ACORN-affiliated Project Vote was arrested for falsifying about 400 voter registration cards.
CO 2005 Two ex-ACORN employees were convicted in Denver of perjury for submitting false voter registrations.
2004 An ACORN employee admitted to forging signatures and registering three of her friends to vote 40 times.
CT 2008 The New York Post reported that ACORN submitted a voter registration card for a 7-year-old Bridgeport girl. Another 8,000 cards from the same city will be scrutinized for possible fraud.
FL 2008 Election officials in Brevard County have given prosecutors more than 23 suspect registrations from ACORN. The state's Division of Elections is also investigating complaints in Orange and Broward Counties.
2004 A Florida Department of Law Enforcement spokesman said ACORN was “singled out” among suspected voter registration groups for a 2004 wage initiative because it was “the common thread” in the agency’s fraud investigations.
IN 2008 Election officials in Indiana have thrown out more than 4,000 ACORN-submitted voter registrations after finding they had identical handwriting and included the names of many deceased Indianans, and even the name of a fast food restaurant.
MI 2008 Clerks in Detroit found a "sizeable number of duplicate and fraudulent [voter] applications" from the Michigan branch of ACORN. Those applications have been turned over to the U.S. Attorney's office for investigation.
2004 The Detroit Free Press reported that “overzealous or unscrupulous campaign workers in several Michigan counties are under investigation for voter-registration fraud, suspected of attempting to register nonexistent people or forging applications for already-registered voters.” ACORN-affiliate Project Vote was one of two groups suspected of turning in the documents.
MO 2008 Nearly 400 ACORN-submitted registrations in Kansas City have been rejected due to duplication or fake information.
2007 Four ACORN employees were indicted in Kansas City for charges including identity theft and filing false registrations during the 2006 election.
2006 Eight ACORN employees in St. Louis were indicted on federal election fraud charges. Each of the eight faces up to five years in prison for forging signatures and submitting false information.
2003 Of 5,379 voter registration cards ACORN submitted in St. Louis, only 2,013 of those appeared to be valid. At least 1,000 are believed to be attempts to register voters illegally.
MN 2004 During a traffic stop, police found more than 300 voter registration cards in the trunk of a former ACORN employee, who had violated a legal requirements that registration cards be submitted to the Secretary of State within 10 days of being filled out and signed.
NC 2008 County elections officials have sent suspicious voter registration applications to the state Board of Elections. Many of the applications had similar or identical names, but with different addresses or dates of birth.
2004 North Carolina officials investigated ACORN for submitting fake voter registration cards.
NM 2008 Prosecutors are investigating more than 1,100 ACORN-submitted voter registration cards after a county clerk found them to be fraudulent. Many of the cards included duplicate names and slightly altered personal information.
2005 Four ACORN employees submitted as many as 3,000 potentially fraudulent signatures on the group’s Albuquerque ballot initiative. A local sheriff added: “It’s safe to say the forgery was widespread.”
2004 An ACORN employee registered a 13-year-old boy to vote. Citing this and other examples, New Mexico State Representative Joe Thompson stated that ACORN was “manufacturing voters” throughout New Mexico.
NV 2009 Nevada authorities indicted ACORN on 26 counts of voter registration fraud and 13 counts of illegally compensating canvassers. ACORN provided a bonus compensation program called “Blackjack” or “21+” for any canvasser who registered more than 20 voters per shift, which is illegal under Nevada law.
2008 Nevada state authorities raided ACORN's Las Vegas headquarters as part of a task force investigation of election fraud. Fraudulent registrations included players from the Dallas Cowboys.
OH 2008 ACORN activists gave Ohio residents cash and cigarettes in exchange for filling out voter registration card, according to the New York Post. Some voters claim to have registered dozens of times, and one man says he signed up on 72 cards.
2007 A man in Reynoldsburg was indicted on two felony counts of illegal voting and false registration, after being registered by ACORN to vote in two separate counties.
2004 A grand jury indicted a Columbus ACORN worker for submitting a false signature and false voter registration form. In Franklin County, two ACORN workers submitted what the director of the board of election supervisors called “blatantly false” forms. In Cuyahoga County, ACORN and its affiliate Project Vote submitted registration cards that had the highest rate of errors for any voter registration group.
PA 2009 Seven ACORN workers in the Pittsburgh area were indicted for submitting falsified voter registration forms. Six of the seven were also indicted for registering voters under an illegal quota system.
2008 State election officials have thrown out 57,435 voter registrations, the majority of which were submitted by ACORN. The registrations were thrown out after officials found "clearly fraudulent" signatures, vacant lots listed as addresses, and other signs of fraud.
2008 An ACORN employee in West Reading, PA, was sentenced to up to 23 months in prison for identity theft and tampering with records. A second ACORN worker pleaded not guilty to the same charges and is free on $10,000 bail.
2004 Reading’s Director of Elections received calls from numerous individuals complaining that ACORN employees deliberately put inaccurate information on their voter registration forms. The Berks County director of elections said voter fraud was “absolutely out of hand,” and added: “Not only do we have unintentional duplication of voter registration but we have blatant duplicate voter registrations.” The Berks County deputy director of elections added that ACORN was under investigation by the Department of Justice.
TX 2008 In Harris County, nearly 10,000 ACORN-submitted registrations were found to be invalid, including many with clearly fraudulent addresses or other personal information.
2008 ACORN turned in the voter registration form of David Young, who told reporters “The signature is not my signature. It’s not even close.” His social security number and date of birth were also incorrect.
VA 2005 In 2005, the Virginia State Board of Elections admonished Project Vote and ACORN for turning in a significant number of faulty voter registrations. An audit revealed that 83% of sampled registrations that were rejected for carrying false or questionable information were submitted by Project Vote. Many of these registrations carried social security numbers that exist for other people, listed non-existent or commercial addresses, or were for convicted felons in violation of state and federal election law.

In a letter to ACORN, the State Board of Elections reported that 56% of the voter registration applications ACORN turned in were ineligible. Further, a full 35% were not submitted in a timely manner, as required by law. The State Board of Elections also commented on what appeared to be evidence of intentional voter fraud. "Additionally,” they wrote, “information appears to have been altered on some applications where information given by the applicant in one color ink has been scratched through and re-entered in another color ink. Any alteration of a voter registration application is a Class 5 Felony in accordance with § 24.2-1009 of the Code of Virginia."
WA 2007 Three ACORN employees pleaded guilty, and four more were charged, in the worst case of voter registration fraud in Washington state history. More than 2,000 fraudulent voter registration cards were submitted by the group during a voter registration drive.
WI 2008 At least 33,000 ACORN-submitted registrations in Milwaukee have been called into question after it was found that the organizations had been using felons as registration workers, in violation of state election rules. Two people involved in the ongoing Wisconsin voter fraud investigation have been charged with felonies.
2004 The district attorney’s office investigated seven voter registration applications Project Vote employees filed in the names of people who said the group never contacted them. Former Project Vote employee Robert Marquise Blakely told the Milwaukee Journal Sentinel that he had not met with any of the people whose voter registration applications he signed, “an apparent violation of state law,” according to the paper.
 
I found the editorial somewhat self serving.

The NYT is behind the curve and the bias is thick, they say they broke stories they hurt democrats...but did they?

The Rangle & Spitzer stories haven't hurt Democrats at all, I bet most people here don't know that Rangle is under investigation and nobody cared Spitzer resigned, another democrat simply took over his job.

Both of those were also NY stories, not national news.

ACORN is a national story, as was the van Jones matter, and they continue to be tone deaf about the real problem, they refuse to dig deep into the current corruption of a government they supported and helped elect through rediculous partisan support.

In short, they have marginalized themselves.
 
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Ame®icano;1561330 said:
Ideologicly driven editorial authority of the New York Times ignored Acorn's corruption for way to long. How believable is that they were unaware of this story until after Senate vote? It's even easier to believe in Obama words that tax is not a tax, then in NYT excuse...

ON Sept. 12, an Associated Press article inside The Times reported that the Census Bureau had severed its ties to Acorn, the community organizing group. Robert Groves, the census director, was quoted as saying that Acorn, one of thousands of unpaid organizations promoting the 2010 census, had become “a distraction.”

Tuning In Too Late

They don't Review Certain Books either... No Matter how Well they Sell...

:)

peace...
 
I found the editorial somewhat self serving.

The NYT is behind the curve and the bias is thick, they say they broke stories they hurt democrats...but did they?

The Rangle & Spitzer stories haven't hurt Democrats at all, I bet most people here don't know that Rangle is under investigation and nobody cared Spitzer resigned, another democrat simply took over his job.

Both of those were also NY stories, not national news.

ACORN is a national story, as was the van Jones matter, and they continue to be tone deaf about the real problem, they refuse to dig deep into the current corruption of a government they supported and helped elect through rediculous partisan support.

In short, they have marginalized themselves.

Rangle is gay, gay people get a pass as long as they are not Cheney's daughter. You think openly gay Wolf Blitzer would run stories on openly gay Democrat Rangle, not a chance. Hell Democrat Rangles lover was the head of Fannie Mae which started this mess and Rangle was the Senator in charge of Fannie Mae.
 
Funny thing about Acorn is they turned in the individuals that registered cartoon characters. They did it. Not the government. Wonder why the media doessn't report that? Also, I never heard of anyone actually voting whose name was Mickey Mouse.

Acorn also fired those crazy people.

Terrible organization. They register people to vote. Help poor people with their taxes. Help people find jobs. What a bunch of creeps. Who need 'em?

let them be terrible on their own goddamn dime!
 
Funny thing about Acorn is they turned in the individuals that registered cartoon characters. They did it. Not the government. Wonder why the media doessn't report that? Also, I never heard of anyone actually voting whose name was Mickey Mouse.

Acorn also fired those crazy people.

Terrible organization. They register people to vote. Help poor people with their taxes. Help people find jobs. What a bunch of creeps. Who need 'em?


That is a stretch of the truth, ACORN got busted period and after the fact they fired only those they believe they need to. The whole organization is corrupt, thats why it took outsiders to "out" ACORN. Two corrupt individuals cannot have a lifelong career amongst saints, nope, the only these people were able to survive as criminals is if all their peers were as corrupt.
 
I found the editorial somewhat self serving.

The NYT is behind the curve and the bias is thick, they say they broke stories they hurt democrats...but did they?

The Rangle & Spitzer stories haven't hurt Democrats at all, I bet most people here don't know that Rangle is under investigation and nobody cared Spitzer resigned, another democrat simply took over his job.

Both of those were also NY stories, not national news.

ACORN is a national story, as was the van Jones matter, and they continue to be tone deaf about the real problem, they refuse to dig deep into the current corruption of a government they supported and helped elect through rediculous partisan support.

In short, they have marginalized themselves.

Rangle is gay, gay people get a pass as long as they are not Cheney's daughter. You think openly gay Wolf Blitzer would run stories on openly gay Democrat Rangle, not a chance. Hell Democrat Rangles lover was the head of Fannie Mae which started this mess and Rangle was the Senator in charge of Fannie Mae.


Sounds like there is something deep in your closet dude. Seriously. Not that there is anything wrong with that lifestyle.
 
I found the editorial somewhat self serving.

The NYT is behind the curve and the bias is thick, they say they broke stories they hurt democrats...but did they?

The Rangle & Spitzer stories haven't hurt Democrats at all, I bet most people here don't know that Rangle is under investigation and nobody cared Spitzer resigned, another democrat simply took over his job.

Both of those were also NY stories, not national news.

ACORN is a national story, as was the van Jones matter, and they continue to be tone deaf about the real problem, they refuse to dig deep into the current corruption of a government they supported and helped elect through rediculous partisan support.

In short, they have marginalized themselves.

Rangle is gay, gay people get a pass as long as they are not Cheney's daughter. You think openly gay Wolf Blitzer would run stories on openly gay Democrat Rangle, not a chance. Hell Democrat Rangles lover was the head of Fannie Mae which started this mess and Rangle was the Senator in charge of Fannie Mae.


Sounds like there is something deep in your closet dude. Seriously. Not that there is anything wrong with that lifestyle.

Dude, no matter what is in my closet does not change the fact that Rangle is an openly gay democrat, you got google and I know you used it and found out for yourself, so you want to attack me in order to hide an openly gay democrat senator.

What is relevant is that the openly gay democrat senator gets a pass because he is gay, that dont disturb you, of course not, hes democratic and as long as he carries the vote it dont matter, in this case Rangle carried more than the vote, who was in charge of the banking institutions which went bankrupt causing the financial crisis. Just so happened it was a man in charge of these financial institutions and that man was the lover of Democrat senator Rangle.

So you can fixate on me all you want, I will even send that pic you requested, oops, that was a PM
 
I don't know how many of you red the article, but here are few interesting quotes:

But for days, as more videos were posted and government authorities rushed to distance themselves from Acorn, The Times stood still. Its slow reflexes — closely following its slow response to a controversy that forced the resignation of Van Jones, a White House adviser — suggested that it has trouble dealing with stories arising from the polemical world of talk radio, cable television and partisan blogs. Some stories, lacking facts, never catch fire. But others do, and a newspaper like The Times needs to be alert to them or wind up looking clueless or, worse, partisan itself.

In other words, we try to hide the story the best way we could, until we looked hopelessly partisan and stupid.

Finally, on Sept. 16, nearly a week after the first video was posted, The Times took note of the controversy, under the headline, “Conservatives Draw Blood From Acorn, Favored Foe.” The article said that conservatives hoped to weaken the Obama administration by attacking its allies and appointees they viewed as leftist. The conservatives thought they had a “winning formula,” the article said, mobilizing people “to dig up dirt,” then trumpeting it on talk radio and television.

Still slamming the messengers and looking to blame someone else.

Some editors told me they were not immediately aware of the Acorn videos on Fox, YouTube and a new conservative Web site called BigGovernment.com. When the Senate voted to cut off all federal funds to Acorn, there was not a word in the newspaper or on its Web site. When the New York City Council froze all its funding for Acorn and the Brooklyn district attorney opened a criminal investigation, there was still nothing.

There was no enough fiction to fit the story that would serve their partisan agenda.

That's why they are not selling the paper.
That's why they are going out of business.
Unless they get bailout.
 
Funny thing about Acorn is they turned in the individuals that registered cartoon characters. They did it. Not the government. Wonder why the media doessn't report that? Also, I never heard of anyone actually voting whose name was Mickey Mouse.

Acorn also fired those crazy people.

Terrible organization. They register people to vote. Help poor people with their taxes. Help people find jobs. What a bunch of creeps. Who need 'em?

let them be terrible on their own goddamn dime!

And Fail...

Cause I'm Sure Barry would be Lining up to Bail Out FOXNews if it wasn't doing Well...

:)

peace...
 

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