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[bonehead]

ok, try this on for size:


THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S PARTY




IT BEING NOTICED THAT THE PRESENT 2 (MAJOR) POLITICAL
PARTY SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES HAS BECOME PEOPLE
UNFRIENDLY, A NEW DIRECTION MUST BE TAKEN.

1) THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE BECOME LAZY – ALLOWING
THE POLITICIANS TO CONVINCE THEM THAT THEY KNOW
BEST AND ARE ALWAYS ACTING IN THE BEST INTEREST
OF THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS (SINCE THE AVERAGE
CITIZEN CANNOT THINK FOR HIMSELF).
2) THERE IS NO WAY TO VERIFY THE MAJORITY ATTITUDE
OF THE CITIZENRY IS BEING HEARD BY THE ELECTED
OFFICIALS AND ACTED ON BY THEIR LEGISLATION.
3) THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE ALSO BEEN DUPED BY THE
POLITICIANS INTO THINKING THIS COUNTRY IS RULED
BY A DEMOCRACY – IT ISN’T. OUR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT
IS A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC WHERE INSTEAD OF ALL LAWS
BEING VOTED ON DIRECTLY BY THE CITIZENS (DEMOCRACY),
WE ELECT REPRESENTATIVES TO VOTE FOR US ( NOTICE
ITEM 2 ABOVE).

DUE TO ADVANCES IN COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY IN THE PAST
THIRTY YEARS, WE NOW HAVE THE MEANS TO BECOME A TRUE
DEMOCRACY. THIS, COUPLED WITH A FEW RADICAL CHANGES IN
ATTITUDES, CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT UNDUE EXPENSE
OR DELAYS AS FOLLOWS:

STEP 1: LEGISLATION

OVERVIEW – ELECTED PERSONS ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS. THEY
ARE ( OR SHOULD BE ) BOUND TO SERVE THE
ELECTORATE. FAILURE TO DO THIS MUST BE SEEN
AS CRIMINAL NEGLECT AND PUNISHABLE BY
IMMEDIATE DISMISSAL AND IMPRISONMENT.
REMEMBER, THESE PUBLIC SERVANTS WORK FOR
THE ELECTORATE, THEY DO NOT MAKE THE RULES.




ELECTED PUBLIC SERVANTS SHALL HAVE NO VOTING
RIGHTS EXCEPT AS INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS. THEIR POSITION
IN THE LEGISLATURE SHALL BE SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE
OF PROPOSING THE LEGISLATION OF THEIR ELECTORATE.


ALL LEGISLATION SHALL BE WRITTEN IN SIMPLE AND
CONCISE CONVERSATIONAL ENGLISH WITH A NINTH
GRADE GRAMMER CONTENT – NO LEGAL MUMBO JUMBO.

ALL LEGISLATION SHALL DEAL WITH ONLY ONE ISSUE
WITHOUT ANY ATTACHMENTS OR AMENDMENTS.

PROPOSED LEGISLATION SHALL BE PUBLISHED IN LOCAL
NEWS MEDIA AND PROMINATELY POSTED IN ALL PUBLIC
BUILDINGS FOR A MINIMUM OF 10 FULL DAYS BEFORE
THE VOTING DATE.

VOTING SHALL BE BY POPULAR BALLOT AND SHALL BE
ACCOMPLISHED BY TELEPHONE OR INTERNET USING
A TOLL FREE NUMBER AND USER ID CODE ( SELECTED
BY THE INDIVIDUAL VOTER AT REGISTRATION AND MAY
NOT BE A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER OR SSN
FORMAT ). A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF REGISTERED VOTERS
WILL PASS THE LEGISLATION.

REPEAL OF ANY LAW SHALL BE BY THE SAME METHOD
AS PASSAGE WITH ONLY A SIMPLE MAJORITY REQUIRED
TO REPEAL.

ALL LEGISLATION PASSED WILL BECOME LAW AND APPLY
EQUALLY TO ALL CITIZENS. THIS, OF COURSE, INCLUDES
PUBLIC SERVANTS ( BOTH ELECTED AND APPOINTED ).

2) ELECTION OF PUBLIC SERVANTS

OVERVIEW – PUBLIC SERVANTS ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE
CITIZENS. AS EMPLOYEES, THEY ARE EXPECTED
TO PERFORM THEIR DUTIES AS OUTLINED IN THEIR
JOB DESCRIPTION AS BEFITS A REPRESENTATIVE
OF THE UNITED STATES. ACCEPTANCE OF THIS
JOB WILL CONSTITUTE A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE
PERSON AND THE CITIZENS.

ELECTION OF PUBLIC SERVANTS SHALL BE BY THE SAME
METHOD AS VOTING FOR LEGISLATION. THE U.S. TREASURY
OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC AGENCY MAY NOT CONTRIBUTE
MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE TOWARD AN INDIVIDUAL
CANDIDATE OR POLITICAL PARTY.

ELECTEES MAY BE REMOVED FROM THEIR POSITION BY
MAJORITY VOTE AS FOR REPEALING LAWS.

PERSONS APPOINTED BY ELECTEES WILL BECOME THE
RESPONSIBILTY OF THE ELECTEE. MISCONDUCT OF THE
APPOINTEE MUST BE FIRST DEALT WITH BY THE ELECTEE.
IF, BY MAJORITY VOTE, THE APPOINTEE IS DEEMED UNFIT
AFTER THE ELECTEE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO CORRECT
THE SITUATION, BOTH THE APPOINTEE AND THE ELECTEE
SHALL BE REMOVED.

BOTH ELECTED AND APPOINTED PUBLIC SERVANTS WILL
BE PROHIBITED FROM RECEIVING ANY GIFTS, GRATUITIES,
PAY OR ANY OTHER COMPENSATIONS DURING THEIR TERMS
OF SERVICE EXCEPT FOR THEIR SALARY AND ALLOWANCES
( WHICH WILL BE DETERMINED BY POPULAR VOTE ).



3) REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES

OVERVIEW – TAXES AND SPENDING ARE A MOST SENSITIVE
SUBJECT WITH THE CITIZENS. EVERYBODY WANTS
BENEFITS, BUT THINK SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD
PAY THE COST. ONE IMPORTANT THING MUST
BE RECOGNIZED – BENEFITS COST MONEY. THE
MORE BENEFITS YOU WANT, THE MORE MONEY
YOU MUST SUPPLY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S
PARTY IS COMMITED TO THE IDEA THAT THOSE
WHO RECEIVE THE BENEFITS SHOULD BEAR THE
COST.
ALL GENERAL TAXES SHALL BE PROPOSED BY LEGISLATION.
THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION SHALL BE VOTED ON AND
PASSED/REJECTED AS FOR ANY OTHER LEGISLATION.

ALL TAXES INSTITUTED BY POPULAR VOTE SHALL BE FOR
A PERIOD OF FOUR YEARS MAXIMUM AND MAY BE REPEALED
AS FOR ANY OTHER LAW AT ANY TIME.

ALL EXPENDITURES SHALL ALSO BE PROPOSED AND
INSTITUTED BY THE SAME METHOD.

ONLY THOSE CITIZENS WHO PAY TAXES SHALL BE ALLOWED
TO VOTE ON INSTITUTING TAXES AND EXPENDITURES. ALL
OTHERS SHALL BE EXCLUDED.

CITIZENS WHO HAVE ATTAINED RETIREMENT AGE WILL BE
CONSIDERED AS PAYING TAXES.



NOW THAT WE’VE DEALT WITH THE OBVIOUS ITEMS, WE NEED TO
ADDRESS THE REALLY TRICKY PARTS OF THE PROGRAM.

SOCIAL SECURITY (OR INSECURITY, AS IT MAY BE)
A) WE ALL KNOW (OR HAVE BEEN TOLD) THAT SOCIAL
SECURITY WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A WHOLESALE
PUBLIC RETIREMENT PROGRAM – ONLY A LAST DITCH
SAFETY NET FOR THE POOREST OF THE POPULATION.
WELL, FOLKS, WELCOME TO THE REALITY OF THE U.S.
FOR MOST OF THE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE, SOCIAL
SECURITY IS ABOUT ALL THERE IS – AND IT WILL BE EVEN
WORSE AS TIME PASSES. MOST COMPANIES WHICH USED
TO OFFER A PRIVATE RETIREMENT PROGRAM HAVE, FOR
FINANCIAL AND LEGAL REASONS, DISCONTINUED THIS
PRACTICE AND NOW OFFER AN EMPLOYEE FUNDED
(WITH EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION OPTIONAL) PLAN.
SO NOW WE HAVE IT – IF IT’S GONNA BE A NATIONAL
RETIREMENT PLAN, THEN LETS MAKE IT ONE THAT
WORKS.
B) AS BEFORE, IF YOU DON’T PAY INTO THE PLAN, YOU
DON’T DRAW MONEY OUT OF THE PLAN. SORRY IF THAT
OFFENDS SOME PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S GOT TO BE THE WAY
IT WORKS. LETS FACE IT, PEOPLE WHO TAKE OTHER
PEOPLE’S MONEY ARE THEIVES. THAT WAS A CRIME THE
LAST TIME I CHECKED.

C) THE SOCIAL SECURITY PROGRAM (NATIONAL RETIREMENT
PROGRAM) SHALL BE ONLY FOR RETIREMENT INCOME –
OTHER ENTITLEMENT EXPENDITURES MUST BE DEALT
WITH SEPARATELY (SSI, MEDICARE, ETC.).

D) ALL INDIVIDUAL’S MONEY CONTRIBUTED INTO THE
RETIREMENT PROGRAM SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS
THAT INDIVIDUALS MONEY – NOT “GOVERNMENT”
MONEY. AS SUCH, THIS MONEY MAY NOT BE BORROWED
OR USED AS COLLATERAL FOR LOANS TO OR BY
THE GOVERNMENT WITHOUT THE INDIVIDUALS’
CONSENT (AND YES, REAL INTEREST WILL BE CHARGED
TO THE GOVERNMENT AT THE MARKET RATE – NOT THE
PRIME RATE).

E) INDIVIDUALS MAY NOT DRAW THEIR MONEY UNTIL THEY
RETIRE. THE AMOUNT OF MONTHLY DRAW WILL BE
60% OF THE AVERAGE OF THE TOP 5 YEARS OF
EARNINGS STARTING THE YEAR AFTER THE INDIVIDUAL
TURNS 50 YEARS OLD DIVIDED BY 12. BI-MONTHLY
CHECKS ARE A SUGGESTED OPTION WHICH MUST BE
APPROVED BY POPULAR VOTE.

F) MAXIMUM MONTHLY DRAW WILL BE LIMITED TO $4500.


G) MONTHLY DRAW WILL NOT BE REDUCED BY EARNED OR
UN-EARNED INCOME LESS THAN $20,000 PER YEAR. EARNED
INCOME WILL BE SUBJECT TO NORMAL TAXES AND DEDUCTIONS.

H) MARRIED COUPLES WHERE EACH MAY DRAW INDIVIDUAL
RETIREMENT INCOME ARE ALLOWED TO DRAW MONTHLY
WITHOUT PENALTY – SAME CONDITIONS AS INDIVIDUALS.

J) SOCIAL SECUTIY WILL BECOME THE ONLY NATIONAL PUBLIC
RETIREMENT SYSTEM. OTHERS MAY BE ALLOWED, BUT THEY
MUST BE FUNDED BY THE INDIVIDUAL WITHOUT ANY CONTRIBUTION
FROM PUBLIC FUNDING.

 

[bonehead]

although the tea party has some good ideas, they just don't get the real point.
try this below and see how it really is from the poor peoples perspective.

 

[bobcollum]

It's less than 2 months till the elections and this sub-forum is a ghost town.

 

[bonehead]

i don't really think so - great ideas and sound thinking.
join the below party and get some real ideas.



THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S PARTY

 

[Avatar4321]

okay....

 

[Sinjorri]

the point of this?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

In essence the ‘American People’s Party’ is calling for a constitutional convention.

Good luck with that.

 

[LoneLaugher]

i don't really think so - great ideas and sound thinking.
join the below party and get some real ideas.



THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S PARTY




IT BEING NOTICED THAT THE PRESENT 2 (MAJOR) POLITICAL
PARTY SYSTEM IN THE UNITED STATES HAS BECOME PEOPLE
UNFRIENDLY, A NEW DIRECTION MUST BE TAKEN.

1) THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE BECOME LAZY – ALLOWING
THE POLITICIANS TO CONVINCE THEM THAT THEY KNOW
BEST AND ARE ALWAYS ACTING IN THE BEST INTEREST
OF THE MAJORITY OF THE CITIZENS (SINCE THE AVERAGE
CITIZEN CANNOT THINK FOR HIMSELF).
2) THERE IS NO WAY TO VERIFY THE MAJORITY ATTITUDE
OF THE CITIZENRY IS BEING HEARD BY THE ELECTED
OFFICIALS AND ACTED ON BY THEIR LEGISLATION.
3) THE AMERICAN PEOPLE HAVE ALSO BEEN DUPED BY THE
POLITICIANS INTO THINKING THIS COUNTRY IS RULED
BY A DEMOCRACY – IT ISN’T. OUR SYSTEM OF GOVERNMENT
IS A DEMOCRATIC REPUBLIC WHERE INSTEAD OF ALL LAWS
BEING VOTED ON DIRECTLY BY THE CITIZENS (DEMOCRACY),
WE ELECT REPRESENTATIVES TO VOTE FOR US ( NOTICE
ITEM 2 ABOVE).

DUE TO ADVANCES IN COMMUNICATION TECHNOLOGY IN THE PAST
THIRTY YEARS, WE NOW HAVE THE MEANS TO BECOME A TRUE
DEMOCRACY. THIS, COUPLED WITH A FEW RADICAL CHANGES IN
ATTITUDES, CAN BE ACCOMPLISHED WITHOUT UNDUE EXPENSE
OR DELAYS AS FOLLOWS:

STEP 1: LEGISLATION

OVERVIEW – ELECTED PERSONS ARE PUBLIC SERVANTS. THEY
ARE ( OR SHOULD BE ) BOUND TO SERVE THE
ELECTORATE. FAILURE TO DO THIS MUST BE SEEN
AS CRIMINAL NEGLECT AND PUNISHABLE BY
IMMEDIATE DISMISSAL AND IMPRISONMENT.
REMEMBER, THESE PUBLIC SERVANTS WORK FOR
THE ELECTORATE, THEY DO NOT MAKE THE RULES.




ELECTED PUBLIC SERVANTS SHALL HAVE NO VOTING
RIGHTS EXCEPT AS INDIVIDUAL CITIZENS. THEIR POSITION
IN THE LEGISLATURE SHALL BE SOLELY FOR THE PURPOSE
OF PROPOSING THE LEGISLATION OF THEIR ELECTORATE.


ALL LEGISLATION SHALL BE WRITTEN IN SIMPLE AND
CONCISE CONVERSATIONAL ENGLISH WITH A NINTH
GRADE GRAMMER CONTENT – NO LEGAL MUMBO JUMBO.

ALL LEGISLATION SHALL DEAL WITH ONLY ONE ISSUE
WITHOUT ANY ATTACHMENTS OR AMENDMENTS.

PROPOSED LEGISLATION SHALL BE PUBLISHED IN LOCAL
NEWS MEDIA AND PROMINATELY POSTED IN ALL PUBLIC
BUILDINGS FOR A MINIMUM OF 10 FULL DAYS BEFORE
THE VOTING DATE.

VOTING SHALL BE BY POPULAR BALLOT AND SHALL BE
ACCOMPLISHED BY TELEPHONE OR INTERNET USING
A TOLL FREE NUMBER AND USER ID CODE ( SELECTED
BY THE INDIVIDUAL VOTER AT REGISTRATION AND MAY
NOT BE A SOCIAL SECURITY NUMBER OR SSN
FORMAT ). A SIMPLE MAJORITY OF REGISTERED VOTERS
WILL PASS THE LEGISLATION.

REPEAL OF ANY LAW SHALL BE BY THE SAME METHOD
AS PASSAGE WITH ONLY A SIMPLE MAJORITY REQUIRED
TO REPEAL.

ALL LEGISLATION PASSED WILL BECOME LAW AND APPLY
EQUALLY TO ALL CITIZENS. THIS, OF COURSE, INCLUDES
PUBLIC SERVANTS ( BOTH ELECTED AND APPOINTED ).

2) ELECTION OF PUBLIC SERVANTS

OVERVIEW – PUBLIC SERVANTS ARE EMPLOYEES OF THE
CITIZENS. AS EMPLOYEES, THEY ARE EXPECTED
TO PERFORM THEIR DUTIES AS OUTLINED IN THEIR
JOB DESCRIPTION AS BEFITS A REPRESENTATIVE
OF THE UNITED STATES. ACCEPTANCE OF THIS
JOB WILL CONSTITUTE A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE
PERSON AND THE CITIZENS.

ELECTION OF PUBLIC SERVANTS SHALL BE BY THE SAME
METHOD AS VOTING FOR LEGISLATION. THE U.S. TREASURY
OR ANY OTHER PUBLIC AGENCY MAY NOT CONTRIBUTE
MONEY OR ANYTHING ELSE TOWARD AN INDIVIDUAL
CANDIDATE OR POLITICAL PARTY.

ELECTEES MAY BE REMOVED FROM THEIR POSITION BY
MAJORITY VOTE AS FOR REPEALING LAWS.

PERSONS APPOINTED BY ELECTEES WILL BECOME THE
RESPONSIBILTY OF THE ELECTEE. MISCONDUCT OF THE
APPOINTEE MUST BE FIRST DEALT WITH BY THE ELECTEE.
IF, BY MAJORITY VOTE, THE APPOINTEE IS DEEMED UNFIT
AFTER THE ELECTEE HAS HAD A CHANCE TO CORRECT
THE SITUATION, BOTH THE APPOINTEE AND THE ELECTEE
SHALL BE REMOVED.

BOTH ELECTED AND APPOINTED PUBLIC SERVANTS WILL
BE PROHIBITED FROM RECEIVING ANY GIFTS, GRATUITIES,
PAY OR ANY OTHER COMPENSATIONS DURING THEIR TERMS
OF SERVICE EXCEPT FOR THEIR SALARY AND ALLOWANCES
( WHICH WILL BE DETERMINED BY POPULAR VOTE ).



3) REVENUES AND EXPENDITURES

OVERVIEW – TAXES AND SPENDING ARE A MOST SENSITIVE
SUBJECT WITH THE CITIZENS. EVERYBODY WANTS
BENEFITS, BUT THINK SOMEONE ELSE SHOULD
PAY THE COST. ONE IMPORTANT THING MUST
BE RECOGNIZED – BENEFITS COST MONEY. THE
MORE BENEFITS YOU WANT, THE MORE MONEY
YOU MUST SUPPLY. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE’S
PARTY IS COMMITED TO THE IDEA THAT THOSE
WHO RECEIVE THE BENEFITS SHOULD BEAR THE
COST.
ALL GENERAL TAXES SHALL BE PROPOSED BY LEGISLATION.
THE PROPOSED LEGISLATION SHALL BE VOTED ON AND
PASSED/REJECTED AS FOR ANY OTHER LEGISLATION.

ALL TAXES INSTITUTED BY POPULAR VOTE SHALL BE FOR
A PERIOD OF FOUR YEARS MAXIMUM AND MAY BE REPEALED
AS FOR ANY OTHER LAW AT ANY TIME.

ALL EXPENDITURES SHALL ALSO BE PROPOSED AND
INSTITUTED BY THE SAME METHOD.

ONLY THOSE CITIZENS WHO PAY TAXES SHALL BE ALLOWED
TO VOTE ON INSTITUTING TAXES AND EXPENDITURES. ALL
OTHERS SHALL BE EXCLUDED.

CITIZENS WHO HAVE ATTAINED RETIREMENT AGE WILL BE
CONSIDERED AS PAYING TAXES.



NOW THAT WE’VE DEALT WITH THE OBVIOUS ITEMS, WE NEED TO
ADDRESS THE REALLY TRICKY PARTS OF THE PROGRAM.

SOCIAL SECURITY (OR INSECURITY, AS IT MAY BE)
A) WE ALL KNOW (OR HAVE BEEN TOLD) THAT SOCIAL
SECURITY WAS NEVER MEANT TO BE A WHOLESALE
PUBLIC RETIREMENT PROGRAM – ONLY A LAST DITCH
SAFETY NET FOR THE POOREST OF THE POPULATION.
WELL, FOLKS, WELCOME TO THE REALITY OF THE U.S.
FOR MOST OF THE WORKING CLASS PEOPLE, SOCIAL
SECURITY IS ABOUT ALL THERE IS – AND IT WILL BE EVEN
WORSE AS TIME PASSES. MOST COMPANIES WHICH USED
TO OFFER A PRIVATE RETIREMENT PROGRAM HAVE, FOR
FINANCIAL AND LEGAL REASONS, DISCONTINUED THIS
PRACTICE AND NOW OFFER AN EMPLOYEE FUNDED
(WITH EMPLOYER CONTRIBUTION OPTIONAL) PLAN.
SO NOW WE HAVE IT – IF IT’S GONNA BE A NATIONAL
RETIREMENT PLAN, THEN LETS MAKE IT ONE THAT
WORKS.
B) AS BEFORE, IF YOU DON’T PAY INTO THE PLAN, YOU
DON’T DRAW MONEY OUT OF THE PLAN. SORRY IF THAT
OFFENDS SOME PEOPLE, BUT THAT'S GOT TO BE THE WAY
IT WORKS. LETS FACE IT, PEOPLE WHO TAKE OTHER
PEOPLE’S MONEY ARE THEIVES. THAT WAS A CRIME THE
LAST TIME I CHECKED.

C) THE SOCIAL SECURITY PROGRAM (NATIONAL RETIREMENT
PROGRAM) SHALL BE ONLY FOR RETIREMENT INCOME –
OTHER ENTITLEMENT EXPENDITURES MUST BE DEALT
WITH SEPARATELY (SSI, MEDICARE, ETC.).

D) ALL INDIVIDUAL’S MONEY CONTRIBUTED INTO THE
RETIREMENT PROGRAM SHALL BE CONSIDERED AS
THAT INDIVIDUALS MONEY – NOT “GOVERNMENT”
MONEY. AS SUCH, THIS MONEY MAY NOT BE BORROWED
OR USED AS COLLATERAL FOR LOANS TO OR BY
THE GOVERNMENT WITHOUT THE INDIVIDUALS’
CONSENT (AND YES, REAL INTEREST WILL BE CHARGED
TO THE GOVERNMENT AT THE MARKET RATE – NOT THE
PRIME RATE).

E) INDIVIDUALS MAY NOT DRAW THEIR MONEY UNTIL THEY
RETIRE. THE AMOUNT OF MONTHLY DRAW WILL BE
60% OF THE AVERAGE OF THE TOP 5 YEARS OF
EARNINGS STARTING THE YEAR AFTER THE INDIVIDUAL
TURNS 50 YEARS OLD DIVIDED BY 12. BI-MONTHLY
CHECKS ARE A SUGGESTED OPTION WHICH MUST BE
APPROVED BY POPULAR VOTE.

F) MAXIMUM MONTHLY DRAW WILL BE LIMITED TO $4500.


G) MONTHLY DRAW WILL NOT BE REDUCED BY EARNED OR
UN-EARNED INCOME LESS THAN $20,000 PER YEAR. EARNED
INCOME WILL BE SUBJECT TO NORMAL TAXES AND DEDUCTIONS.

H) MARRIED COUPLES WHERE EACH MAY DRAW INDIVIDUAL
RETIREMENT INCOME ARE ALLOWED TO DRAW MONTHLY
WITHOUT PENALTY – SAME CONDITIONS AS INDIVIDUALS.

J) SOCIAL SECUTIY WILL BECOME THE ONLY NATIONAL PUBLIC
RETIREMENT SYSTEM. OTHERS MAY BE ALLOWED, BUT THEY
MUST BE FUNDED BY THE INDIVIDUAL WITHOUT ANY CONTRIBUTION
FROM PUBLIC FUNDING.

Founding....ding fathers?

Brilliant.

 

[Grandma]

The Teabaggers isn't a legitimate political party and the outline DONE IN ALL CAPS is idiotic. The most offensive part is saying that people with a ninth grade education are qualified to vote on matters that they couldn't possibly understand, like budget & finance, whether or not to close military bases, authorizing research grants, cost-efficient water reclamation, and so on.

Anyway, the teabaggers allege to have sprung from the libertarians, which is light years away from the truth.

Libertarians are intelligent and well-spoken. They're fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. They're open to bipartisan compromise. They're a very likeable bunch.

Teabaggers are low-information, low IQ, paranoid, racist, sexist, gullible, religious fundamentalists that are led around by talking-points spewing highly-paid shills, ultimately serving as voting base drones to the Koch brothers, Roger Ayles, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and a number of foreign interests.

Any idea put forth by a teabagger is a bad idea.

 

[PaulS1950]

There are some problems with your proposal.
1. we live in a republic - not a democracy and the thing that makes it different is that in a republic form of government the people have certain rights that are not able to be voted out - they are inherent or "God given" rights and no one can remove them.

2. Since the "representatives" have no power to legislate why have them at all? We can use initiatives and vote without them.

3. What happens if a law is passed that is "unconstitutional" or goes against your mandate? Why not install a "constitutional court" to check to see if a law is lawful before it is voted on?

4. What does the president do in your plan? he is as easily corrupted as the representatives and they usually have their own agenda as well.

5. Do our rights (the bill of rights) just disappear?

6. 60% of the highest wage for retirees the working man will have to pay about 40% of his wage into the system because there are almost as many retired as there are working. This is not likely to work.

7. Who controls the military - and how?

There are more but that will do for now.
Paul

 

[bonehead]

Interesting comment - especially since I don't exhibit any of the "Teabagger" attributes. i Don't have any connection with any political party, religion or any other national association. Politics and religion are, and should not, be related to each other. My political views are very much Jeffersonian - as were the original ideas set forth in the Constitution. Besides, I'm neither uneducated nor any of the other things you seem to think. Talk about profiling!

 

[ABikerSailor]

It's less than 2 months till the elections and this sub-forum is a ghost town.

That's because the teabaggers are trying to keep a low profile so that they don't completely trash Mittens' chance of being elected.

But..............he seems to be doing a pretty good job of that himself.

 

[PredFan]

Democracy: Two wolves and a sheep voting on what's for dinner.

 

[PredFan]

The Teabaggers isn't a legitimate political party and the outline DONE IN ALL CAPS is idiotic. The most offensive part is saying that people with a ninth grade education are qualified to vote on matters that they couldn't possibly understand, like budget & finance, whether or not to close military bases, authorizing research grants, cost-efficient water reclamation, and so on.

Anyway, the teabaggers allege to have sprung from the libertarians, which is light years away from the truth.

Libertarians are intelligent and well-spoken. They're fiscally conservative, but socially liberal. They're open to bipartisan compromise. They're a very likeable bunch.

Teabaggers are low-information, low IQ, paranoid, racist, sexist, gullible, religious fundamentalists that are led around by talking-points spewing highly-paid shills, ultimately serving as voting base drones to the Koch brothers, Roger Ayles, Karl Rove, Dick Cheney, and a number of foreign interests.

Any idea put forth by a teabagger is a bad idea.

Damn, how did you manage to be wrong on almost every single thing?

It's "Tea Party" not "tea baggers" that is something you like to have done to you.

The Tea Party was started in 2007 by Libertarians.

Sure, they have been usurped by the GOP but Tea Partiers are still fiscally conservative.

We Libertarians are really interested in compromising with the left or the right.

Morons wh use the label Teabaggers are low-information, low IQ, paranoid, racist, sexist, and gullible obamabots who get their information from a washed up hack comedian.

Any opinions put forth by people who use that term is worthy of only scorn.

 

[PredFan]

It's less than 2 months till the elections and this sub-forum is a ghost town.

That's because the teabaggers are trying to keep a low profile so that they don't completely trash Mittens' chance of being elected.

But..............he seems to be doing a pretty good job of that himself.

We are still rallying, idiot.

 

[bonehead]

Well, I didn't say this was the whole ball of wax - just a start. You want a president? No problem with that.
Do you want him to make for foreign policies? That is a problem.If you want a people's government, why have the 10% make the policies for the 90% (the 10% don't have to abide by the rules). Of course, the federal government will have to administer those things which pertain to all states - but not control of all the states. Just simple Jeffersonian ideas.
Bonehead.