New NY Gun law to pass today. Run for the hills!! lol

[Dr Grump]

Because it's a whackjob site that doesn't back up its assertions with hard data.

The National Center For Policy Analysis, a nationally recognized "think tank" is a "whackjob site?"

ROFL

Not that you had any credibility to start with.

That aside, you have changed the subject. You stated that the Australian Govt said it was going to do one thing, but did another. Your unreliable link has nothing to do with that...

Yes I did, and I've given you links on it before.

From its "about us" section: The National Center for Policy Analysis (NCPA) is a nonprofit, nonpartisan public policy research organization, established in 1983. Our goal is to develop and promote private, free-market alternatives to government regulation and control, solving problems by relying on the strength of the competitive, entrepreneurial private sector.


non partisan my arse.

Yes you did what? Post a link quoting then PM John Howard about what he was GOING to do, then posting a link or similar about what he ACTUALLY did?
Where? I've never seen it. You will never post such a link, because such a link does not exist. He was up front and transparent about what he was going to do, and he did it.

 

[Doc91678]

“People who have mental health issues should not have guns,” Mr. Cuomo told reporters. “They could hurt themselves, they could hurt other people.”


Well in all Mr. Cuomo's wisdom, why hasn't he done anything to pass legislation to help those people with mental health issues? There are not enough facilities throughout the state to deal with the mentally impaired. Banning inanimate objects because they have appearances that politicians don't like will not stop violence. Again Mr. Cuomo, you have helped president Obama further violate our Constitution.

 

[francoHFW]

For the billionth time, after OZ banned semi-auto rifles and shotguns, gun murders went down 59% and gun massacres ENDED. The rest is irrelevantBS.

NOT REPORTED on Pub Propaganda machine, to say the least, dupe.

 

[TakeAStepBack]

Cleaning your rifle is the only way you'll ever get any.

It's always the ones who talk about sex the most who want it the most and get it the least.

The irony level is off the chart...

These mouth breathers believe they are clever. It's funny, if not predictable. Turds are everywhere.

 

[francoHFW]

“People who have mental health issues should not have guns,” Mr. Cuomo told reporters. “They could hurt themselves, they could hurt other people.”


Well in all Mr. Cuomo's wisdom, why hasn't he done anything to pass legislation to help those people with mental health issues? There are not enough facilities throughout the state to deal with the mentally impaired. Banning inanimate objects because they have appearances that politicians don't like will not stop violence. Again Mr. Cuomo, you have helped president Obama further violate our Constitution.

Included in the law is a provision that says mental health professionals must report threats of gun violence from patients, and guns can be confiscated. Haha!

 

[Dr Grump]

“People who have mental health issues should not have guns,” Mr. Cuomo told reporters. “They could hurt themselves, they could hurt other people.”


Well in all Mr. Cuomo's wisdom, why hasn't he done anything to pass legislation to help those people with mental health issues? There are not enough facilities throughout the state to deal with the mentally impaired. Banning inanimate objects because they have appearances that politicians don't like will not stop violence. Again Mr. Cuomo, you have helped president Obama further violate our Constitution.

You can still have your peashooters. Getting rid of certain types of guns doesn't make you unarmed...

 

[jillian]

The National Center For Policy Analysis, a nationally recognized "think tank" is a "whackjob site?"

it is only recognized as a "rightwing" 'think tank'. it has no more value than any other 'opinion' from a partisan.

 

[Dr Grump]

The National Center For Policy Analysis, a nationally recognized "think tank" is a "whackjob site?"

it is only recognized as a "rightwing" 'think tank'. it has no more value than any other 'opinion' from a partisan.

Which is why I never post anything from such think tank sites - left, right or up the middle. An agenda is an agenda.

Funny how the cerebrally challenged righties can’t see that. Note I say ‘funny’, not ‘surprising’…

 

[martybegan]

For the billionth time, after OZ banned semi-auto rifles and shotguns, gun murders went down 59% and gun massacres ENDED. The rest is irrelevantBS.

NOT REPORTED on Pub Propaganda machine, to say the least, dupe.

But all other crimes WENT UP. The criminals know the people are either unarmed or under-armed.

So you prefer meek and cowering over being able to defend yourself. if you want it that way fine, but dont use you governmental bully-butt buddy to force us to live the way you want to live.

 

[Gadawg73]

Gotta love the brains behind these new gun laws:
Ban the 20 round clips and limit it to 10 round only.
Dumb fuck Democrats do not know that it takes 2 seconds to change clips and put in another 10 round clip. 10 + 10 = 20.
But not to a Democrat.

 

[Inthemiddle]

For the billionth time, after OZ banned semi-auto rifles and shotguns, gun murders went down 59% and gun massacres ENDED. The rest is irrelevantBS.

NOT REPORTED on Pub Propaganda machine, to say the least, dupe.

....to be replaced by other weapons.

 

[Inthemiddle]

Getting rid of certain types of guns doesn't make you unarmed...

Just underarmed.

 

[Dr Grump]

For the billionth time, after OZ banned semi-auto rifles and shotguns, gun murders went down 59% and gun massacres ENDED. The rest is irrelevantBS.

NOT REPORTED on Pub Propaganda machine, to say the least, dupe.

But all other crimes WENT UP. The criminals know the people are either unarmed or under-armed.

So you prefer meek and cowering over being able to defend yourself. if you want it that way fine, but dont use you governmental bully-butt buddy to force us to live the way you want to live.

Links please...
Credible ones too

 

[Dr Grump]

Getting rid of certain types of guns doesn't make you unarmed...

Just underarmed.

If you can't stop somebody with a .22 or a handgun at close range, then maybe you're going to be struggling anyway....

 

[Inthemiddle]

Getting rid of certain types of guns doesn't make you unarmed...

Just underarmed.

If you can't stop somebody with a .22 or a handgun at close range, then maybe you're going to be struggling anyway....

Like the mother who narrowly escaped an intruder after hitting him with all six rounds her gun could carry?

 

[martybegan]

For the billionth time, after OZ banned semi-auto rifles and shotguns, gun murders went down 59% and gun massacres ENDED. The rest is irrelevantBS.

NOT REPORTED on Pub Propaganda machine, to say the least, dupe.

But all other crimes WENT UP. The criminals know the people are either unarmed or under-armed.

So you prefer meek and cowering over being able to defend yourself. if you want it that way fine, but dont use you governmental bully-butt buddy to force us to live the way you want to live.

Links please...
Credible ones too

This one is all data. and I was partly wrong. It seems the gun ban didn't do much
to change the trends in crime. If a gun ban is so effective, why didnt the rates plummet upon implementation?

Results of the '96 Australian Gun Laws (updated 2009) (GunsAndCrime.org)

 

[Dr Grump]

But all other crimes WENT UP. The criminals know the people are either unarmed or under-armed.

So you prefer meek and cowering over being able to defend yourself. if you want it that way fine, but dont use you governmental bully-butt buddy to force us to live the way you want to live.

Links please...
Credible ones too

This one is all data. and I was partly wrong. It seems the gun ban didn't do much
to change the trends in crime. If a gun ban is so effective, why didnt the rates plummet upon implementation?

Results of the '96 Australian Gun Laws (updated 2009) (GunsAndCrime.org)

It is effective because we have had no mass killings since.

And the reason they didn't plummet is because there were not that many guns here to begin with anyway. The guns - or lackthereof - have never played a major part in Australian crimes trends anyway...

 

[Dr Grump]

Just underarmed.

If you can't stop somebody with a .22 or a handgun at close range, then maybe you're going to be struggling anyway....

Like the mother who narrowly escaped an intruder after hitting him with all six rounds her gun could carry?

So even the first five bullets can't stop an intruder?? there goes the theory that having a peashooter will save your life...

 

[Uncensored2008]

If you can't stop somebody with a .22 or a handgun at close range, then maybe you're going to be struggling anyway....

Don't be such an idiot, Gump.

A .22 will not stop a person unless a "kill shot" is scored. Most torso shots will not stop a person, even if they die a few hours later.

I love shooting .22's, they're accurate and have no kick. But for defense, they're virtually worthless.

 

[buckeye45_73]

"The state Senate, controlled by a coalition of Republicans and a handful of Democrats, approved the legislative package just after 11 p.m. by a lopsided vote of 43 to 18. The Assembly, where Democrats who have been strongly supportive of gun control have an overwhelming majority, planned to vote on the measure Tuesday.

Approval of the legislation would make New York the first state to act in response to the mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., last month.

Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, had pressed lawmakers to move quickly in response to Newtown, saying, “the people of this state are crying out for help.” And the Legislature proceeded with unusual haste: Monday was the first full day of this year’s legislative session.

“We don’t need another tragedy to point out the problems in the system,” Mr. Cuomo said at a news conference.

“Enough people have lost their lives,” he added. “Let’s act.”

The expanded ban on assault weapons would broaden the definition of such weapons, banning semiautomatic pistols and rifles with detachable magazines and one military-style feature, as well as semiautomatic shotguns with one military-style feature. New Yorkers who already own such guns could keep them but would be required to register them with the state.

“The message out there is so clear after Newtown,” said the Assembly speaker, Sheldon Silver, a Democrat from Manhattan. “To basically eradicate assault weapons from our streets in New York as quickly as possible is something the people of this state want.”

In an acknowledgment that many people have suggested that part of the solution to gun violence is a better government response to mental illness, the legislation includes not only new restrictions on gun ownership, but also efforts to limit access to guns by the mentally ill.

The most significant new proposal would require mental health professionals to report to local mental health officials when they believe that patients are likely to harm themselves or others. Law enforcement would then be authorized to confiscate any firearm owned by a dangerous patient; therapists would not be sanctioned for a failure to report such patients if they acted “in good faith.”

“People who have mental health issues should not have guns,” Mr. Cuomo told reporters. “They could hurt themselves, they could hurt other people.”

But such a requirement “represents a major change in the presumption of confidentiality that has been inherent in mental health treatment,” said Dr. Paul S. Appelbaum, the director of the Division of Law, Ethics, and Psychiatry at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, who said the Legislature should hold hearings on possible consequences of the proposal.

“The prospect of being reported to the local authorities, even if they do not have weapons, may be enough to discourage patients with suicidal or homicidal thoughts from seeking treatment or from being honest about their impulses,” he said.

The legislation would extend and expand Kendra’s Law, which empowers judges to order mentally ill patients to receive outpatient treatment.

And it would require gun owners to keep weapons inaccessible in homes where a resident has been involuntarily committed, convicted of a crime or is the subject of an order of protection.

The legislative package, which Mr. Cuomo said he believed would be “the most comprehensive package in the nation,” would ban any gun magazine that can hold over 7 rounds of ammunition — the current limit is 10 rounds. It would also require background checks of ammunition buyers and automated alerts to law enforcement of high-volume purchases.

The legislation would increase penalties for multiple crimes committed with guns, would require background checks for most private gun sales, and create a statewide gun-registration database.

Senator Jeffrey D. Klein of the Bronx, the leader of an independent faction of Democrats who have allied with the Republicans to control the Senate, said the measure met the goals of many lawmakers

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/15/n...peedy-vote-on-gun-laws.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0

The funny thing is you think criminals are gonna follow them....I can just see Jerome selling guns out of his trunk, doing background checks......LOLOL