New NY Gun law to pass today. Run for the hills!! lol

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    "The state Senate, controlled by a coalition of Republicans and a handful of Democrats, approved the legislative package just after 11 p.m. by a lopsided vote of 43 to 18. The Assembly, where Democrats who have been strongly supportive of gun control have an overwhelming majority, planned to vote on the measure Tuesday.

    Approval of the legislation would make New York the first state to act in response to the mass shooting at an elementary school in Newtown, Conn., last month.

    Mr. Cuomo, a Democrat, had pressed lawmakers to move quickly in response to Newtown, saying, “the people of this state are crying out for help.” And the Legislature proceeded with unusual haste: Monday was the first full day of this year’s legislative session.

    “We don’t need another tragedy to point out the problems in the system,” Mr. Cuomo said at a news conference.

    “Enough people have lost their lives,” he added. “Let’s act.”

    The expanded ban on assault weapons would broaden the definition of such weapons, banning semiautomatic pistols and rifles with detachable magazines and one military-style feature, as well as semiautomatic shotguns with one military-style feature. New Yorkers who already own such guns could keep them but would be required to register them with the state.

    “The message out there is so clear after Newtown,” said the Assembly speaker, Sheldon Silver, a Democrat from Manhattan. “To basically eradicate assault weapons from our streets in New York as quickly as possible is something the people of this state want.”

    In an acknowledgment that many people have suggested that part of the solution to gun violence is a better government response to mental illness, the legislation includes not only new restrictions on gun ownership, but also efforts to limit access to guns by the mentally ill.

    The most significant new proposal would require mental health professionals to report to local mental health officials when they believe that patients are likely to harm themselves or others. Law enforcement would then be authorized to confiscate any firearm owned by a dangerous patient; therapists would not be sanctioned for a failure to report such patients if they acted “in good faith.”

    “People who have mental health issues should not have guns,” Mr. Cuomo told reporters. “They could hurt themselves, they could hurt other people.”

    But such a requirement “represents a major change in the presumption of confidentiality that has been inherent in mental health treatment,” said Dr. Paul S. Appelbaum, the director of the Division of Law, Ethics, and Psychiatry at the Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons, who said the Legislature should hold hearings on possible consequences of the proposal.

    “The prospect of being reported to the local authorities, even if they do not have weapons, may be enough to discourage patients with suicidal or homicidal thoughts from seeking treatment or from being honest about their impulses,” he said.

    The legislation would extend and expand Kendra’s Law, which empowers judges to order mentally ill patients to receive outpatient treatment.

    And it would require gun owners to keep weapons inaccessible in homes where a resident has been involuntarily committed, convicted of a crime or is the subject of an order of protection.

    The legislative package, which Mr. Cuomo said he believed would be “the most comprehensive package in the nation,” would ban any gun magazine that can hold over 7 rounds of ammunition — the current limit is 10 rounds. It would also require background checks of ammunition buyers and automated alerts to law enforcement of high-volume purchases.

    The legislation would increase penalties for multiple crimes committed with guns, would require background checks for most private gun sales, and create a statewide gun-registration database.

    Senator Jeffrey D. Klein of the Bronx, the leader of an independent faction of Democrats who have allied with the Republicans to control the Senate, said the measure met the goals of many lawmakers

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    Now make the police adhere to the same regulations.
     
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    The semi auto pistol restriction will be overturned via heller. Once again they overreach.

    I guess we New Yorkers are now peasants. Except of course for those who work for the government, and politicans who are protected by the government.

    If it wasn't for my family being here I would move out of this shithole in a second.
     
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    For what purpose?
     
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    Because I am now a second class citizen. They get access to thier 2nd amendment rights that I do not. what is going to happen is they will be allowed to keep these weapons at home, as they are law enforcement.

    What should happen is that any weapon they use during the course of the day that exceedes the law should be required to be kept in the precinct for use while on duty only. When they go home they can only use whatever the rest of us use.

    The gun grabber excuse is all you need is "gun X" to defend youself. They should follow the same rules as well.
     
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    I am sure, because of this brilliant, knee-jerk reaction, that gang and drug related murders in New York City will now drop dramatically. New York is now a safety place.

    Sarcasm off.
     
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    And now all the politicians shake hands and pat themselves on the back, for accomplishing absolutely nothing.
     
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    Some parts of that I don't like, as it's being reported. I don't like the semi-automatic pistol ban nor do I like a previously reported provision which required owners of so-called "assault weapons" to register them or have them confiscated. I think that's been taken out of the final bill, but I can't find the text of this legislation anywhere on the state government or General Assembly website. I'm also leery of mental health professionals being required to report their patients whom they think may harm themselves or others nor that their firearms could be taken from them, even temporarily. WAAAAAAY to many questions which can't be answered without reading the bill itself.

    Can anybody find a link to the actual text of the bill?
     
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    Sarcasm based on stupidity. NYC is a safe city, but you're too dumb to know it.
     
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    I guess the fears of gun grabbing that progressives were making fun of have come to roost.
     

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