natural born is still an issue

[Muhammed]

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."

And for those who are ignorant of where the term "natural born citizen" came from, here it is from the most requested book at the Library of Congress during the Constitutional Convention. Law of Nations.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

Read the sentence after the one you highlighted. And sure, Right, Madison thought that if he has two kids, one was born in the US, the other while he was in France then only the first could be President. The second is a frog, can't trust them. A point again which is covered by the sentence after the one you highlighted. The key was parents are citizens. There is nothing which justifies the geographic location of their birth. At that time there was a lot less travel. You're over reading what they meant. Which is explained in ... the next sentence

If you don't agree with the Constitution then propose a constitutional amendment.

 

[washamericom]

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."

And for those who are ignorant of where the term "natural born citizen" came from, here it is from the most requested book at the Library of Congress during the Constitutional Convention. Law of Nations.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

Read the sentence after the one you highlighted. And sure, Right, Madison thought that if he has two kids, one was born in the US, the other while he was in France then only the first could be President. The second is a frog, can't trust them. A point again which is covered by the sentence after the one you highlighted. The key was parents are citizens. There is nothing which justifies the geographic location of their birth. At that time there was a lot less travel. You're over reading what they meant. Which is explained in ... the next sentence

madison called french people frogs ?? heh, that's pretty funny.

 

[washamericom]

This was never really an issue with Obama because he was born in Hawaii...

In contrast with Rafael "Ted" Cruz who was born with a Canadian birth certificate to a US expat. mom & a Cuban refugee dad who earned Canadian citizenship and then fled south to Texas a year after that and "eased" his family, including Ted, down with him from Canada....until Ted finally became naturalized I guess at some point.

Really? So when and where did this naturalization take place?They do maintain very good records of those things!

if they don't get changed or scrubbed.
The unraveling of Barry Soetoro, a/k/a Barack Hussein Obama II | Canada Free Press

In our investigation, we found that the scrubbing and altering of records pertaining to Obama began well before he became an Illinois state senator in the 1996 election cycle. The “scrubbing” or alteration of records did not begin or end with Obama, but also extended to his mother and other associates as well. In fact, a very large and extremely relevant part of the investigation of Barry SOETORO, or Barack Hussein Obama II as he is known, revolves around his parents, step father, and grandparents. and extends from the U.S. mainland to Hawaii and other points across the globe.

 

[washamericom]

Is the OP referring to Trump who was obviously hatched? And if name calling is gonna get him into the White House then America better be worried.

isis should start to worry, and the mexican cartels. we all start out as eggs.

 

[Little-Acorn]

Q. What's the difference between Donald Trump and the Hindenburg? A . One is a flaming Nazi Gasbag, and the other is a dirigible.

That joke was told endlessly about Rush Limbaugh, back when liberals couldn't refute him either. It flopped just as badly. And now, apparently you people can't even come up with original jokes any more.

 

[kaz]

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."

And for those who are ignorant of where the term "natural born citizen" came from, here it is from the most requested book at the Library of Congress during the Constitutional Convention. Law of Nations.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

Read the sentence after the one you highlighted. And sure, Right, Madison thought that if he has two kids, one was born in the US, the other while he was in France then only the first could be President. The second is a frog, can't trust them. A point again which is covered by the sentence after the one you highlighted. The key was parents are citizens. There is nothing which justifies the geographic location of their birth. At that time there was a lot less travel. You're over reading what they meant. Which is explained in ... the next sentence

If you don't agree with the Constitution then propose a constitutional amendment.

Um...your quote wasn't from the Constitution, Holmes

 

[Muhammed]

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."

And for those who are ignorant of where the term "natural born citizen" came from, here it is from the most requested book at the Library of Congress during the Constitutional Convention. Law of Nations.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

Read the sentence after the one you highlighted. And sure, Right, Madison thought that if he has two kids, one was born in the US, the other while he was in France then only the first could be President. The second is a frog, can't trust them. A point again which is covered by the sentence after the one you highlighted. The key was parents are citizens. There is nothing which justifies the geographic location of their birth. At that time there was a lot less travel. You're over reading what they meant. Which is explained in ... the next sentence

If you don't agree with the Constitution then propose a constitutional amendment.

Um...your quote wasn't from the Constitution, Holmes

Yes it was. And there is another quote to show ignorant LWNJs the law book that the term "natural born citizen" came from.

But of course that won't change their mind because they are stupid.

 

[kaz]

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."

And for those who are ignorant of where the term "natural born citizen" came from, here it is from the most requested book at the Library of Congress during the Constitutional Convention. Law of Nations.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

Read the sentence after the one you highlighted. And sure, Right, Madison thought that if he has two kids, one was born in the US, the other while he was in France then only the first could be President. The second is a frog, can't trust them. A point again which is covered by the sentence after the one you highlighted. The key was parents are citizens. There is nothing which justifies the geographic location of their birth. At that time there was a lot less travel. You're over reading what they meant. Which is explained in ... the next sentence

If you don't agree with the Constitution then propose a constitutional amendment.

Um...your quote wasn't from the Constitution, Holmes

Yes it was. And there is another quote to show ignorant LWNJs the law book that the term "natural born citizen" came from.

But of course that won't change their mind because they are stupid.

 

[jillian]

even though the obots think it's settled law, i never have. without, a precedent, it will see the inside of the supreme court, i predict this will take cruz out, because people won't want to take a chance on not taking the white house, which Trump will do.


Exactly how and when did Ted Cruz obtain U.S. citizenship?

The fact that it is still an open question at this stage of the Presidential campaign is a testament either to the galactic ignorance of our political-media elite or their willingness to place political expediency ahead of the Constitution and the law.

There is no third alternative.

Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada on December 22, 1970 and remained a Canadian citizen until he officially renounced it on May 14, 2014, eighteen months after taking the oath of office as a U.S. Senator. At the time of his birth, Cruz’s father was a citizen of Canada and his mother was a U.S. citizen.

Legally, Cruz could have obtained US citizenship through his mother consistent with Public Law 414, June 27, 1952, An Act: To revise the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality and for other purposes [H.R. 5678], Title III Nationality and Naturalization, Chapter 1 – Nationality at Birth and by Collective naturalization; Nationals and citizens of the United States at birth; the relevant section being 301 (a) (7):

Read more at Shock Report: Canadian-Born Ted Cruz Entered US Illegally In 1974; Parents Didn't File CRBA Until 1986 - Birther Report


the same rules have to apply to both parties, that's a fact.

it would be if cruz was going to be your nominee. he won't. his best shot for good numbers was iowa.

it won't be an issue.

 

[kaz]

"No person except a natural born citizen, or a citizen of the United States, at the time of the adoption of this Constitution, shall be eligible to the office of President; neither shall any person be eligible to that office who shall not have attained to the age of thirty five years, and been fourteen Years a resident within the United States."

And for those who are ignorant of where the term "natural born citizen" came from, here it is from the most requested book at the Library of Congress during the Constitutional Convention. Law of Nations.

“The citizens are the members of the civil society; bound to this society by certain duties, and subject to its authority, they equally participate in its advantages. The natives, or natural-born citizens, are those born in the country, of parents who are citizens. As the society cannot exist and perpetuate itself otherwise than by the children of the citizens, those children naturally follow the condition of their fathers, and succeed to all their rights. The society is supposed to desire this, in consequence of what it owes to its own preservation; and it is presumed, as matter of course, that each citizen, on entering into society, reserves to his children the right of becoming members of it. The country of the fathers is therefore that of the children; and these become true citizens merely by their tacit consent. We shall soon see whether, on their coming to the years of discretion, they may renounce their right, and what they owe to the society in which they were born. I say, that, in order to be of the country, it is necessary that a person be born of a father who is a citizen; for, if he is born there of a foreigner, it will be only the place of his birth, and not his country.”

Read the sentence after the one you highlighted. And sure, Right, Madison thought that if he has two kids, one was born in the US, the other while he was in France then only the first could be President. The second is a frog, can't trust them. A point again which is covered by the sentence after the one you highlighted. The key was parents are citizens. There is nothing which justifies the geographic location of their birth. At that time there was a lot less travel. You're over reading what they meant. Which is explained in ... the next sentence

If you don't agree with the Constitution then propose a constitutional amendment.

Um...your quote wasn't from the Constitution, Holmes

Yes it was. And there is another quote to show ignorant LWNJs the law book that the term "natural born citizen" came from.

But of course that won't change their mind because they are stupid.

Gotcha, I'm a left wing nut job. What can I say, I love government. Oh, and that makes ... me ... stupid. LOL

 

[washamericom]

even though the obots think it's settled law, i never have. without, a precedent, it will see the inside of the supreme court, i predict this will take cruz out, because people won't want to take a chance on not taking the white house, which Trump will do.


Exactly how and when did Ted Cruz obtain U.S. citizenship?

The fact that it is still an open question at this stage of the Presidential campaign is a testament either to the galactic ignorance of our political-media elite or their willingness to place political expediency ahead of the Constitution and the law.

There is no third alternative.

Rafael Edward “Ted” Cruz was born in Calgary, Alberta, Canada on December 22, 1970 and remained a Canadian citizen until he officially renounced it on May 14, 2014, eighteen months after taking the oath of office as a U.S. Senator. At the time of his birth, Cruz’s father was a citizen of Canada and his mother was a U.S. citizen.

Legally, Cruz could have obtained US citizenship through his mother consistent with Public Law 414, June 27, 1952, An Act: To revise the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality and for other purposes [H.R. 5678], Title III Nationality and Naturalization, Chapter 1 – Nationality at Birth and by Collective naturalization; Nationals and citizens of the United States at birth; the relevant section being 301 (a) (7):

Read more at Shock Report: Canadian-Born Ted Cruz Entered US Illegally In 1974; Parents Didn't File CRBA Until 1986 - Birther Report


the same rules have to apply to both parties, that's a fact.

it would be if cruz was going to be your nominee. he won't. his best shot for good numbers was iowa.

it won't be an issue.

and Marco ?

 

[JoeB131]

Q. What's the difference between Donald Trump and the Hindenburg? A . One is a flaming Nazi Gasbag, and the other is a dirigible.

That joke was told endlessly about Rush Limbaugh, back when liberals couldn't refute him either. It flopped just as badly. And now, apparently you people can't even come up with original jokes any more.

Is limbaugh still on the air? Because no one ever hears about him. Even Media Matter doesn't talk about him anymore.

Anyway, joke works for a lot of guys on the right. Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan, Donald Trump.

 

[washamericom]

Q. What's the difference between Donald Trump and the Hindenburg? A . One is a flaming Nazi Gasbag, and the other is a dirigible.

That joke was told endlessly about Rush Limbaugh, back when liberals couldn't refute him either. It flopped just as badly. And now, apparently you people can't even come up with original jokes any more.

Is limbaugh still on the air? Because no one ever hears about him. Even Media Matter doesn't talk about him anymore.

Anyway, joke works for a lot of guys on the right. Limbaugh, Pat Buchanan, Donald Trump.

as a conservative, i'd like to see some of the heavies pass the torch after the election, rush, oreilly, hannity. i know they generate a lot of dough, and a lot for charity.

but they should relinquish the stage, think gearge washington, his heart told him, two terms was enough. that set the tone until teedy roosevelt, who had it right, then jumped back in as a progressive, after his "friend" taft did the big turnaround.

speaking of taft, if dems had the senate, obamica could use an executive order to make him self supreme court justice. heh