Muslims demand independent Islamic state in Britian

[Vigilante]

 

[frigidweirdo]

Whereas the right don't give a damn and make minorities victims.

Thanks for proving my point. Pretending minorities are victims to turn Americans against each other.

Oh, minorities aren't victims? Slavery didn't happen? Segregation didn't happen? The Japanese Americans didn't get locked up in WW2? Trump hasn't attack both Hispanics and Muslims mercilessly?

Oh, let's pretend none of this ever happened, and then you'll be right.

Minorities are often victims----not always. Slavery happened world wide----the slavery of the USA was brutal. No Trump has not attacked both Hispanics and muslims mercilessly--------He has cited a big problem related to illegal immigration ----mostly from Mexico and a big problem with the ideology
of muslim immigrants. So far I know of no pograms against Hispanics or muslims----I live in a largely Hispanic area------and very near two large muslim enclaves No pogroms

One thing is citing a problem, the other is attacking people for their race or origin. Trump has done the latter, especially with his attacks on judges.

No, there are no pogroms, you don't need to be in a pogrom to be a victim.

oh----who are the "victims" in your mind? in what way are the victims being victimized?

In many ways. Like being vilified for the crimes of others, in the case of Muslims, like by being told that they're all rapists in the case of Hispanics, and so on.

 

[irosie91]

Thanks for proving my point. Pretending minorities are victims to turn Americans against each other.

Oh, minorities aren't victims? Slavery didn't happen? Segregation didn't happen? The Japanese Americans didn't get locked up in WW2? Trump hasn't attack both Hispanics and Muslims mercilessly?

Oh, let's pretend none of this ever happened, and then you'll be right.

Minorities are often victims----not always. Slavery happened world wide----the slavery of the USA was brutal. No Trump has not attacked both Hispanics and muslims mercilessly--------He has cited a big problem related to illegal immigration ----mostly from Mexico and a big problem with the ideology
of muslim immigrants. So far I know of no pograms against Hispanics or muslims----I live in a largely Hispanic area------and very near two large muslim enclaves No pogroms

One thing is citing a problem, the other is attacking people for their race or origin. Trump has done the latter, especially with his attacks on judges.

No, there are no pogroms, you don't need to be in a pogrom to be a victim.

oh----who are the "victims" in your mind? in what way are the victims being victimized?

In many ways. Like being vilified for the crimes of others, in the case of Muslims, like by being told that they're all rapists in the case of Hispanics, and so on.

your comment is typical of the shit that you are-----I have challenged jerks like you ---just on this board to CITE just who and when and how ANYONE ever claimed that "ALL MUSLIMS... do this ...or do that...," and so far none of you clumps of shit have manage to come up with a single example to justify YOUR LIBEL

 

[irosie91]

so true-----it is a matter of cultural more's. What is your point. If some religious leader
in the USA decided to take advantage of
unhappiness in youth and claims a "ETERNAL ORGASM" in the sky reward----there would also be ENDLESS VOLUNTEERS---YOUR POINT?

My point was that what you said didn't really make much sense.

read it again---you alluded to SUICIDE---as a manifestation of ideology------I described the FACT -----that if offered ----there are LOTS OF VOLUNTEERS

Yes, there are. And there are FAR MORE since the invasion of Iraq. I wonder why.

correlation is not causation. There were lots and lots of EVENTS in the period of time to which you allude-----there was the "ARAB SPRING" which had nothing to do with the
"invasion by the usa of Iraq" There was the
rise of AL QAEDA which had nothing to do with the invasion of Iraq by the USA. There was the ISIS thing which had nothing to do with the "invasion of Iraq"---(believe it or not---it was inevitable based on Islamic fantasy of 1400 years ---in fact you could blame it on the crusades with equal credibility)

The Arab Spring may not have been started (in countries like Tunisia) by the invasion of Iraq, but the Arab Spring spreading to Syria and becoming a civil war had a LOT to do with the invasion of Iraq and subsequent fuck up of "rebuilding" the country by Bush and Bremer.

Certainly had Saddam been in charge in Iraq, there'd have not been the militancy in the area to move quickly and efficiently into Syria.

More BS-----a civil war has been cooking in Syria ever since the BRUTAL HAFEZ took power and began murdering Syrians in the name of BAATHIST SHIT and his own personal sick love of Iran----remember 1982----we wasn't in Iraq in 1982

 

[frigidweirdo]

Oh, minorities aren't victims? Slavery didn't happen? Segregation didn't happen? The Japanese Americans didn't get locked up in WW2? Trump hasn't attack both Hispanics and Muslims mercilessly?

Oh, let's pretend none of this ever happened, and then you'll be right.

Minorities are often victims----not always. Slavery happened world wide----the slavery of the USA was brutal. No Trump has not attacked both Hispanics and muslims mercilessly--------He has cited a big problem related to illegal immigration ----mostly from Mexico and a big problem with the ideology
of muslim immigrants. So far I know of no pograms against Hispanics or muslims----I live in a largely Hispanic area------and very near two large muslim enclaves No pogroms

One thing is citing a problem, the other is attacking people for their race or origin. Trump has done the latter, especially with his attacks on judges.

No, there are no pogroms, you don't need to be in a pogrom to be a victim.

oh----who are the "victims" in your mind? in what way are the victims being victimized?

In many ways. Like being vilified for the crimes of others, in the case of Muslims, like by being told that they're all rapists in the case of Hispanics, and so on.

your comment is typical of the shit that you are-----I have challenged jerks like you ---just on this board to CITE just who and when and how ANYONE ever claimed that "ALL MUSLIMS... do this ...or do that...," and so far none of you clumps of shit have manage to come up with a single example to justify YOUR LIBEL

Ah, insults....

 

[irosie91]

BS muslims who do not go to mosques are incapable of being terrorist or supporting the
CALIPHATE FANTASY? I came into contact with LOTS OF MUSLIMS---over the past in excess of 50 years------even beer swilling muslims can harbor and often DO --harbor the CALIPHATE FANTASY and---absolutely have incorporated the filth that has led to the current situations

Muslims, like anyone else, can become suicide bombers, it doesn't take someone to go to Mosque or a Church to do it.

so true-----it is a matter of cultural more's. What is your point. If some religious leader
in the USA decided to take advantage of
unhappiness in youth and claims a "ETERNAL ORGASM" in the sky reward----there would also be ENDLESS VOLUNTEERS---YOUR POINT?

My point was that what you said didn't really make much sense.

read it again---you alluded to SUICIDE---as a manifestation of ideology------I described the FACT -----that if offered ----there are LOTS OF VOLUNTEERS

Yes, there are. And there are FAR MORE since the invasion of Iraq. I wonder why.

because islam is doing its SIN WAVE thing----which always ascends to RIVERS OF BLOOD as "piety" increases. Check out history----
on the dead bodies of hundreds of millions

 

[irosie91]

Minorities are often victims----not always. Slavery happened world wide----the slavery of the USA was brutal. No Trump has not attacked both Hispanics and muslims mercilessly--------He has cited a big problem related to illegal immigration ----mostly from Mexico and a big problem with the ideology
of muslim immigrants. So far I know of no pograms against Hispanics or muslims----I live in a largely Hispanic area------and very near two large muslim enclaves No pogroms

One thing is citing a problem, the other is attacking people for their race or origin. Trump has done the latter, especially with his attacks on judges.

No, there are no pogroms, you don't need to be in a pogrom to be a victim.

oh----who are the "victims" in your mind? in what way are the victims being victimized?

In many ways. Like being vilified for the crimes of others, in the case of Muslims, like by being told that they're all rapists in the case of Hispanics, and so on.

your comment is typical of the shit that you are-----I have challenged jerks like you ---just on this board to CITE just who and when and how ANYONE ever claimed that "ALL MUSLIMS... do this ...or do that...," and so far none of you clumps of shit have manage to come up with a single example to justify YOUR LIBEL

Ah, insults....

yes----you falsely accused people of INSULTING MUSLIMS (poor things) to the point of creating LIBELS against innocent people------go right ahead and let cite the actual BASIS FOR YOUR SHIT LIBELS----
---to be specific---"MUSLIMS ARE BEING ACCUSED OF CRIMES WHICH THEY DID NOT COMMIT" you got stats on the number of muslims in jail falsely accused of murder, theft, rape...????

 

[irosie91]

Whereas the right don't give a damn and make minorities victims.

Thanks for proving my point. Pretending minorities are victims to turn Americans against each other.

you are creating a CONSPIRACY LIBEL

 

[irosie91]

BS muslims who do not go to mosques are incapable of being terrorist or supporting the
CALIPHATE FANTASY? I came into contact with LOTS OF MUSLIMS---over the past in excess of 50 years------even beer swilling muslims can harbor and often DO --harbor the CALIPHATE FANTASY and---absolutely have incorporated the filth that has led to the current situations

Muslims, like anyone else, can become suicide bombers, it doesn't take someone to go to Mosque or a Church to do it.

so true-----it is a matter of cultural more's. What is your point. If some religious leader
in the USA decided to take advantage of
unhappiness in youth and claims a "ETERNAL ORGASM" in the sky reward----there would also be ENDLESS VOLUNTEERS---YOUR POINT?

My point was that what you said didn't really make much sense.

read it again---you alluded to SUICIDE---as a manifestation of ideology------I described the FACT -----that if offered ----there are LOTS OF VOLUNTEERS

Yes, there are. And there are FAR MORE since the invasion of Iraq. I wonder why.

you have back up stats?. Suicide attacks by muslims are not limited to attacks on US people or JOOOS----Shiites and sunnis use them against each other in various parts of the world----and muslims use them against Christians in various parts of the world

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Whereas the right don't give a damn and make minorities victims.

Thanks for proving my point. Pretending minorities are victims to turn Americans against each other.

Oh, minorities aren't victims? Slavery didn't happen? Segregation didn't happen? The Japanese Americans didn't get locked up in WW2? Trump hasn't attack both Hispanics and Muslims mercilessly?

Oh, let's pretend none of this ever happened, and then you'll be right.

It did happen, but ragging on it and greatly embellishing it today is what Liberals are doing to separate the people, in order to maintain control. Though, no Trump hasn't attacked either one.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Britain's "Islamic Emirates Project"

So it begins. Muslims now make up 5% and growing if Britain. They now demand an independent state for Muslims only be craved out of Britain.

The Muzzie apologist will say it's a fringe group, but the vast majority of Muslims in Britain desire this. Only a decade ago they made up less than 1%, I 10 years they became 5%, by 2030 they are projected to make up 20%! The larger a percent they become the more demands they will make!

Britain (Europe and America) be warned!

Well, that was certainly the case with caucasions once they illegally came into the North American continent, then they just took and murdered their way into the whole thing.

Explain how they illegally came to the NA continent.

Did the native inhabitants authorize their settlement, or was it an invasion that dispossessed the native inhabitants? If the latter it was illegal.

Why are we talking about Legal and Illegal when there likely weren't any laws to operate by when the English first settled here?

Because it's exactly the same thing, "we" just didn't have any respect for what was already here. Fuck them, we murdered our way into it. But now? Oh yes, "we" have "laws" so others shouldn't do the same to "us". Then "we" rewrote the entire history of what actually happened.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Well, that was certainly the case with caucasions once they illegally came into the North American continent

They did no such thing

 

[Fenton Lum]

Whereas the right don't give a damn and make minorities victims.

Thanks for proving my point. Pretending minorities are victims to turn Americans against each other.

Oh, minorities aren't victims? Slavery didn't happen? Segregation didn't happen? The Japanese Americans didn't get locked up in WW2? Trump hasn't attack both Hispanics and Muslims mercilessly?

Oh, let's pretend none of this ever happened, and then you'll be right.

It did happen, but ragging on it and greatly embellishing it today is what Liberals are doing to separate the people, in order to maintain control. Though, no Trump hasn't attacked either one.

Britain's "Islamic Emirates Project"

So it begins. Muslims now make up 5% and growing if Britain. They now demand an independent state for Muslims only be craved out of Britain.

The Muzzie apologist will say it's a fringe group, but the vast majority of Muslims in Britain desire this. Only a decade ago they made up less than 1%, I 10 years they became 5%, by 2030 they are projected to make up 20%! The larger a percent they become the more demands they will make!

Britain (Europe and America) be warned!

Well, that was certainly the case with caucasions once they illegally came into the North American continent, then they just took and murdered their way into the whole thing.

Explain how they illegally came to the NA continent.

Did the native inhabitants authorize their settlement, or was it an invasion that dispossessed the native inhabitants? If the latter it was illegal.

Why are we talking about Legal and Illegal when there likely weren't any laws to operate by when the English first settled here?

And it's the Dutch, French and Spanish as well that took over what they considered the New World. Yet everyone always wants to take a whack at the English.

No, it's all the western colonial empires. It's only the English here because they prevailed against the others.

But really it's all the same virus, and it is that virus that continues to sodomize american society today.

 

[Fenton Lum]

Well, that was certainly the case with caucasions once they illegally came into the North American continent

They did no such thing

Horse shit.

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Well, that was certainly the case with caucasions once they illegally came into the North American continent

They did no such thing

Horse shit.

Cite the law they broke

 

[Fenton Lum]

Well, that was certainly the case with caucasions once they illegally came into the North American continent

They did no such thing

Horse shit.

Cite the law they broke

Look, you may think that's cute, but even you know what you're doing. Did they break any white Euro western laws? Treaty after treaty, their own. If you can't deal with the reality of the history I'm fine with leaving you to your denial.

 

[irosie91]

Britain's "Islamic Emirates Project"

So it begins. Muslims now make up 5% and growing if Britain. They now demand an independent state for Muslims only be craved out of Britain.

The Muzzie apologist will say it's a fringe group, but the vast majority of Muslims in Britain desire this. Only a decade ago they made up less than 1%, I 10 years they became 5%, by 2030 they are projected to make up 20%! The larger a percent they become the more demands they will make!

Britain (Europe and America) be warned!

Well, that was certainly the case with caucasions once they illegally came into the North American continent, then they just took and murdered their way into the whole thing.

Explain how they illegally came to the NA continent.

Did the native inhabitants authorize their settlement, or was it an invasion that dispossessed the native inhabitants? If the latter it was illegal.

Why are we talking about Legal and Illegal when there likely weren't any laws to operate by when the English first settled here?

Because it's exactly the same thing, "we" just didn't have any respect for what was already here. Fuck them, we murdered our way into it. But now? Oh yes, "we" have "laws" so others shouldn't do the same to "us". Then "we" rewrote the entire history of what actually happened.

there is no question that the native americans were abused ---fenton----as to rewriting history-------who is "we" The history I learned as a teen included the fact that the European invaders DID abuse the American natives

 

[Dont Taz Me Bro]

Well, that was certainly the case with caucasions once they illegally came into the North American continent

They did no such thing

Horse shit.

Cite the law they broke

Look, you may think that's cute, but even you know what you're doing. Did they break any white Euro western laws? Treaty after treaty, their own. If you can't deal with the reality of the history I'm fine with leaving you to your denial.

I do know the real history. You are the one who said what they did was illegal, but of course, it wasn't because there was no established nation state on this continent with laws, accords, treaties, etc. There were just multiple indigenous tribes, who I would remind you were just as vicious towards each other, killing and slaughtering other tribes, as bad as Europeans did to them when they arrived.

I would also point out to you that almost every civilization in existence today at some point in history supplanted the people who were there before them so your argument is the kind produced by one with a miniscule intellect.

You can shut up now.

 

[Fenton Lum]

they stole a peopled continent----no one invited them

Native Americans were immigrants as well. No one had a deed to all of North America. Many territories by the way were purchased.

really----other than the island of manhattan which went for a WHOPPING handful of glass beads-------who paid the Indians for what?

That story is complete bullshit. Here's what really happened with the Dutch. And don't forget there's no such entity as a real estate agent. Very little cash ever changed hands. Most deals were made on a barter system of trading.

"Of course, the biggest problem with the Manhattan purchase isn’t the price: It’s the identity of the sellers.

The Dutch conducted their business with the Canarsee tribe who were actually based out of what is now Brooklyn. However, we should be fair to perpetrators of the glass beads myth: The Canarsee probably would have taken anything in exchange for the use of Manhattan, as the island actually belonged to the Wappinger Confederacy, another group of Native Americans.

As a result, the Dutch claim to Manhattan was later contested, and the Dutch compensated the rightful owners. Thus, the Dutch settlers actually paid for Manhattan twice."

Native Americans Didn’t Sell Manhattan For $24 Of Beads

OK so it $48 and a bunch of blankets ??

What did you want them to pay? It was just forest. Current day prices? Crap we're talking the 1500 and 1600's for crying out loud.

ETA: I'm very pro First Nations btw. It was a wild land back then. And for the most part when one understands true history and no political slants on it in many cases the settlers and the First Nations worked quite well together.

We know what the power structure "taught" us. That's not the point, your ability to regurgitate your imprinting is not at issue here.

A groundbreaking study that radically alters our understanding of the Americas before the arrival of the Europeans in 1492.
Traditionally, Americans learned in school that the ancestors of the people who inhabited the Western Hemisphere at the time of Columbus’s landing had crossed the Bering Strait twelve thousand years ago; existed mainly in small, nomadic bands; and lived so lightly on the land that the Americas was, for all practical purposes, still a vast wilderness. But as Charles C. Mann now makes clear, archaeologists and anthropologists have spent the last thirty years proving these and many other long-held assumptions wrong.
1491: New Revelations of the Americas Before Columbus: Charles C. Mann: 9781400040063: Amazon.com: Books

 

[Pumpkin Row]

Because it's exactly the same thing, "we" just didn't have any respect for what was already here. Fuck them, we murdered our way into it. But now? Oh yes, "we" have "laws" so others shouldn't do the same to "us". Then "we" rewrote the entire history of what actually happened.

How convenient that you're ignoring that most of it was bought, when they really could have just killed them all and taken it.