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The peer-reviewed article can be found here.Homosexuality Linked to Genetics in Mice - TIME NewsFeed
Another of science's epic debates has finally been resolved: it turns out that homosexuality is genetic. (In mice, at least.)
According to a study published in the BioMed Central Genetics journalthis month, researchers from the Korea Advanced Institute of Science and Technology were able to prove a link between genetics and sexual preference in female mice.
The procedure involved removing the females' (conveniently-abbreviated) FucM genes, which caused their brains to be masculinized—essentially turning the mice into lesbians. Researchers reported that after the gene was removed the mice “exhibited a masculine behavior, such as mounting to a normal female partner as well as showing a preference to female urine.”
If we genetically engineer them to be, yes.So what your saying is that the mice are genetically deficient?
It puts another nail into the "homosexuality is a choice" coffin that Abrahamic religions love to push.Is this supposed to make the homosexual community happy?
If we genetically engineer them to be, yes.So what your saying is that the mice are genetically deficient?
It puts another nail into the "homosexuality is a choice" coffin that Abrahamic religions love to push.Is this supposed to make the homosexual community happy?
From a purely scientific standpoint, it is amazing that sexuality can be directly, and dramatically, controlled by standard genetic engineering techniques.
You can go on choosing your skin color, your family, your hometown, and your orientation, then.It might make people feel better to lie to themselves and others and pretend as if they have no choice over what they do in life. But no one will ever truly be free until they can stop lying about it and take responsibility for their choices.
It might make people feel better to lie to themselves and others and pretend as if they have no choice over what they do in life. But no one will ever truly be free until they can stop lying about it and take responsibility for their choices.
It puts another nail into the "homosexuality is a choice" coffin that Abrahamic religions love to push.
It might make people feel better to lie to themselves and others and pretend as if they have no choice over what they do in life. But no one will ever truly be free until they can stop lying about it and take responsibility for their choices.
If you'll note, I said:It puts another nail into the "homosexuality is a choice" coffin that Abrahamic religions love to push.
You and the persons behind the study seem to falsely assume this accounts for all homosexuality and that all sexuality if strictly genetically determined. Can you truly rule out psychological and environmental (eg: in utero) factors in all cases?
While any researcher can tell you that mouse studies never directly apply to humans, this does prove that homosexuality can be induced by genetic manipulation of mammals.
This clearly indicates that the homosexual behavior of these mice is due to a lack of the fucose mutarotase gene, which prohibits anomeric conversions of monosaccharides. This indicates, if the study actually bears up under scrutiny, that homosexuality in this mutation of mouse is linked to a lack of an enzyme, and not to genetics. I would also like to point out that not all of the mice ended up being homosexual, which actually adds weight to the argument that it is not genetic.The observation that FucM-/- female mouse exhibits a phenotypic similarity to a wild-type male in terms of its sexual behavior appears to be due to the neurodevelopmental changes in preoptic area of mutant brain resembling a wild-type male. Since the previous studies indicate that AFP plays a role in titrating estradiol that are required to consolidate sexual preference of female mice, we speculate that the reduced level of AFP in FucM-/- mouse, presumably resulting from the reduced fucosylation, is responsible for the male-like sexual behavior observed in the FucM knock-out mouse.
It puts another nail into the "homosexuality is a choice" coffin that Abrahamic religions love to push.
From a purely scientific standpoint, it is amazing that sexuality can be directly, and dramatically, controlled by standard genetic engineering techniques.
The presence or absence of a given gene - geneticsclearly indicates that the homosexual behavior of these mice is due to a lack of the fucose mutarotase gene
which prohibits anomeric conversions of monosaccharides. This indicates, if the study actually bears up under scrutiny, that homosexuality in this mutation of mouse is linked to a lack of an enzyme, and not to genetics
. I would also like to point out that not all of the mice ended up being homosexual, which actually adds weight to the argument that it is not genetic.
Sure.Any takers?
Your argument only makes sense if you ignore the central dogma of biology, that is:From the summation, emphasis mine.
This clearly indicates that the homosexual behavior of these mice is due to a lack of the fucose mutarotase gene, which prohibits anomeric conversions of monosaccharides. This indicates, if the study actually bears up under scrutiny, that homosexuality in this mutation of mouse is linked to a lack of an enzyme, and not to genetics.The observation that FucM-/- female mouse exhibits a phenotypic similarity to a wild-type male in terms of its sexual behavior appears to be due to the neurodevelopmental changes in preoptic area of mutant brain resembling a wild-type male. Since the previous studies indicate that AFP plays a role in titrating estradiol that are required to consolidate sexual preference of female mice, we speculate that the reduced level of AFP in FucM-/- mouse, presumably resulting from the reduced fucosylation, is responsible for the male-like sexual behavior observed in the FucM knock-out mouse.
This is the first time that any genes were identified that directly control orientation in any species, hence the significance.
The presence or absence of a given gene - geneticsclearly indicates that the homosexual behavior of these mice is due to a lack of the fucose mutarotase gene
That's not what you said a moment ago.which prohibits anomeric conversions of monosaccharides. This indicates, if the study actually bears up under scrutiny, that homosexuality in this mutation of mouse is linked to a lack of an enzyme, and not to geneticsActually, it backs the argument that it is not wholly genetic. I would also like to point out that not all of the mice ended up being homosexual, which actually adds weight to the argument that it is not genetic.
