Moody's Predicts Democrat Landslide

[Dad2three]

That got laughed at last time you posted it.

fdr truned a depression into the only Great Depression
obama extended the 2008 recession to today

obama copied fdr

move along child, the adults are talking

Biggest Lie Ever!

I backed my claim up with history, you got nothing.

fdr and obama upped spending
fdr and obama upped taxes
fdr and obama created a program that added to the debt
fdr and obama slowed recovery with their idiotic ideas


you stand corrected by facts

FDR and Obama fixed the worst Republican economic disasters of their era

by making it worse and last longer than it should have.

history tells us, clearly, that cutting taxes and spending brings depressions-recessions to much quicker ends.

obama has a college degree and hire people with degrees, so they should have known history

Obama is an inexperienced radical moron, a product of socialistic, anti capitalist, anti american indoctrination that occurs in universities across the US.

That's why the first thing he did as president was go on an apology tour. He recently insulted the British by returning Churchill's bust, a gift given by the British which has been in the White House for decades. That alone tells you a lot about his ideology.

Record Corp profits, lowest EFFECTIVE tax rates on Corps in 40 years, lowest EFFECTIVE tax burden on the "job creators" for a sustained period since 1932. Obama is a horrible socialist then!

 

[ScienceRocks]

Give us back the tax rates of the the 40's, 50's and 60s that had the biggest middle class in history. It sure as fuck wasn't during Reagan!

 

[sealybobo]

Sounds like how I describe the GOP.

If you liked bill you'll vote hillary then?

Of course not. She's also a radical and a professional liar like Obama. She showed who she is during Bill Clinton's presidency and of course while serving under Obama as possibly the worst Secretary of State. Let's not forget that she and Obama got in front of the Cameras and lied to the America about Ben Ghazi. That alone would have been the end of both their careers had it not been for the media pushing it under the rug.

Worse than Condi Rice? LOL.

You republicans always trying to push Rush's narrative. So cute.

But it's working. Even my dad who liked Hillary was saying the other day she's not trustworthy. So your witch hunt is working. I'll be glad if Bernie Sanders wins but I'll take Biden or Gore.

If anybody other than Hillary becomes the nominee it's game over for the Dems. Sanders is an admitted socialist, and Biden served as Obama's VP which everyone is trying to disassociate themselves from.

It's time for a republican to step in and fix some of the Obamas fuckups. Unfortunately, this is how the presidential election cycle works. It's corrective. Every 4 or 8 years someone from the opposing party steps in and swings the country hard right or hard left. Not often we see presidents like Reagan who attracted many Democrats or Clinton who attracted many republicans.

Just like the Greeks didn't care the guy running was a socialist, the people in America won't care when they realize what being a socialist means. It means you don't want corporations to rule. It means you value your government. It doesn't mean you are anti capitalism. Just not unregulated free market capitalism is just as dirty an ism as all the others.

Damn, did you just use GREECE as an example?! You did, didn't you? Ha ha ha.

Didn't America almost go bankrupt? And the GOP are asking the poor and middle class to pick up the tab? Sounds like Greece, France, Arab uprising. Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt?

Last question. What is our national debt? Go look at that and then make fun of Greece. Not only do the bankers (corporations) own you so does china. You only have a savings account as long as the bankers say you do and your home is only worth what they say it's worth.

 

[Roudy]

Of course not. She's also a radical and a professional liar like Obama. She showed who she is during Bill Clinton's presidency and of course while serving under Obama as possibly the worst Secretary of State. Let's not forget that she and Obama got in front of the Cameras and lied to the America about Ben Ghazi. That alone would have been the end of both their careers had it not been for the media pushing it under the rug.

Worse than Condi Rice? LOL.

You republicans always trying to push Rush's narrative. So cute.

But it's working. Even my dad who liked Hillary was saying the other day she's not trustworthy. So your witch hunt is working. I'll be glad if Bernie Sanders wins but I'll take Biden or Gore.

If anybody other than Hillary becomes the nominee it's game over for the Dems. Sanders is an admitted socialist, and Biden served as Obama's VP which everyone is trying to disassociate themselves from.

It's time for a republican to step in and fix some of the Obamas fuckups. Unfortunately, this is how the presidential election cycle works. It's corrective. Every 4 or 8 years someone from the opposing party steps in and swings the country hard right or hard left. Not often we see presidents like Reagan who attracted many Democrats or Clinton who attracted many republicans.

Oh now you guys liked Bill? Back then he was a socialist. See, you guys fling these words around too much.

Oh OK, Bill Clinton was a socialist president. Greatest business environment and capitalistic administration in the 20 century. What exactly is in that coolaid that you guys are drinking?

FLASHBACK: In 1993, GOP Warned That Clinton’s Tax Plan Would ‘Kill Jobs,’ ‘Kill The Current Recovery’

The Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 are scheduled to expire at the end of the year, and President Obama, just as he did on the campaign trail, has proposed renewing the cuts for all but those in the highest two income tax brackets, allowing tax rates for the wealthiest two percent of Americans to reset to the rate at which they were under President Clinton.

Republicans, however, want to renew all of the cuts, and have been apoplectic about Obama’s plan, claiming that it will kill jobs and cripple small businesses. “This is about stopping a job-killing tax hike on small businesses during tough economic times,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT). “You can’t raise taxes in the middle of a weak economy without risking a double dip in the recession,” said House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH).

If these warnings about double-dip recessions and job-killing tax increases sound vaguely familiar, that’s because they are. TaxVox yesterday pointed to a couple of quotes from Republicans in 1993 employing very similar rhetoric as today’s Republicans, with then Senate Minority leader Bob Dole (R-KS), claiming that “half the tax increase because of the rate increases is going to be paid by small business and they’re not rich,” which is the same false argument employed by today’s Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

Here is just some of the rhetoric employed by Republicans in 1993 to fearmonger about Clinton’s tax increases (there’s more below the fold):

Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA), February 2, 1993: We have all too many people in the Democratic administration who are talking about bigger Government, bigger bureaucracy, more programs, and higher taxes. I believe that that will in fact kill the current recovery and put us back in a recession. It might take 1 1/2 or 2 years, but it will happen. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Bill Archer (R-TX), May 24, 1993: I would much rather be here today supporting the President and I would do so if his proposals could expect to increase jobs and the standard of living for Americans, but I believe his massive tax increases will do just the opposite. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-GA), July 13, 1993: Small businesses generate the bulk of this Nation’s new jobs. And they will be the hardest hit by the Clinton tax-and-spend budget. Because, when you raise taxes, you kill jobs. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Christopher Cox (R-CA), May, 27, 1993: This is really the Dr. Kevorkian plan for our economy. It will kill jobs, kill businesses, and yes, kill even the higher tax revenues that these suicidal tax increasers hope to gain. (Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H2949)

Of course, far from bringing the Doomsday of which Republicans were warning, Clinton’s policies ushered in the longest sustained period of economic growth in the nation’s history, with 23 million jobs created. Compared to the administration of George W. Bush, the Clinton-era saw more job growth, more GDP growth, more wage growth, and more business investment. Incomes grew under Clinton but fell under Bush, while poverty did the opposite, falling under Clinton but increasing under Bush.

Oh, and Clinton balanced the budget for the first time since 1969. On May 27, 1993, Rep. Robert Michel (R-IL) said “[Americans] will remember who set loose this dreadful virus into the economic bloodstream of our nation.” If only we could have a “dreadful virus” of that sort today. More quotes below the jump.:

Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA), February 2, 1993: We have all too many people in the Democratic administration who are talking about bigger Government, bigger bureaucracy, more programs, and higher taxes. I believe that that will in fact kill the current recovery and put us back in a recession. It might take 1 1/2 or 2 years, but it will happen. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Bill Archer (R-TX), May 24, 1993: I would much rather be here today supporting the President and I would do so if his proposals could expect to increase jobs and the standard of living for Americans, but I believe his massive tax increases will do just the opposite. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-GA), July 13, 1993: Small businesses generate the bulk of this Nation’s new jobs . And they will be the hardest hit by the Clinton tax-and-spend budget. Because, when you raise taxes, you kill jobs. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Thomas Ewing (R-IL), February 21, 1993: The Clinton plan will hurt the economy and kill new job creation…By crippling small- and medium-sized businesses, the plan will kill jobs. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. John Kasich (R-OH), August 5, 1993: Do you know what? This is now your package. We will come back here next year and try to help you when this puts the economy in the gutter. And virtually every major economic estimating firm in this country says your bill is going to kill jobs. (Congressional Record 1993, Page: H6249)

Rep. Robert Dornan (R-CA), August 5, 1993: The problem with our economy is that there is too little employment and too little growth. This plan will do nothing to improve that condition and will actually make it worse. (Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H6148)

Rep. Christopher Cox (R-CA), May, 27, 1993: This is really the Dr. Kevorkian plan for our economy. It will kill jobs, kill businesses, and yes, kill even the higher tax revenues that these suicidal tax increasers hope to gain. (Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H2949)

Rep. Jim Ramstad (R-MN), March 17, 1993: These new taxes will stifle economic growth, destroy jobs, reduce revenues, and increase the deficit. Economists across the ideological spectrum are convinced that the Clinton tax increases will lead to widespread job loss. (Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H1355)

Rep. Phil Crane (R-IL), March 18, 1993: The budget proposal offered by the Democrats is a recipe for economic and fiscal disaster…It proposes to increase taxes at a time when we have a fragile economy–higher taxes will only stifle job creation and economic growth.(Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H1454)

Rep. Dick Armey (R-TX), August 2, 1993: The impact on job creation is going to be devastating, and the American young people in particular will suffer a fairly substantial deferment of their lives because there simply won’t be jobs for the next two to three years to go around to our young graduates across the country. (CNN)

Rep. Joel Hefley (R-CO), August 4, 1993: However Clinton wants to spin his tax plan, the bottom line is this: It will raise your taxes, increase the deficit, and kill over 1 million jobs. (Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H5745)

Flashback!

Bill Clinton's 8 digs at Obama

In the past Clinton has ribbed Obama's lack of experience.

By Kevin Cirilli

09/05/12, 07:23 AM EDT

There’s only one president who actually came from Hope.

Former President Bill Clinton — a native of Hope, Ark. — is expected to offer a rousing endorsement of President Barack Obama in his speech Wednesday night at the Democratic National Convention. But four years ago, while his wife Hillary competed for the Democratic nomination, Clinton wasn’t always so supportive of Obama’s “hope and change” message.

Here are Bill Clinton’s most controversial quotes about Obama:

1. “The idea that one of these campaigns is positive and the other is negative when I know the reverse is true and I have seen it and I have been blistered by it for months is a little tough to take. Just because of the sanitizing coverage that’s in the media doesn’t mean the facts aren’t out there.” — Jan. 7, 2008; New Hampshire campaign stop

2. “I think that they played the race card on me. We now know, from memos from the campaign, that they planned to do it all along.” — April 21, 2008, WHYY News Radio

3. “In theory, we could find someone who is a gifted television commentator and let them run. They’d have only one year less experience in national politics.” — Dec. 15, 2007, PBS’s “ Charlie Rose”

4. “Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.” — Jan. 7, 2008, addressing Obama’s record on Iraq during a New Hampshire stop

5. “Hillary’s opponent, in his entire campaign, every two or three weeks has said for months and months and months, beginning in Nevada, that really there wasn’t much difference in how America did when I was president and how America’s done under President Bush. Now, if you believe that, you should probably vote for him, but you get a very bad grade in history.” — April 17, 2008, Lock Haven, Pa., campaign speech

6. “Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ’84 and ’88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here.” — Jan. 26, 2008, to reporters in Columbia, S.C.

7. “I mean, when’s the last time we elected a president based on one year of service in the Senate before he started running? I mean, he will have been a senator longer by the time he’s inaugurated, but essentially once you start running for president full time you don’t have time to do much else.” — Dec. 15, 2007, PBS’s “ Charlie Rose”

8. “Oh, I think yes.” – Dec. 20, 2011, Fox News, when asked if the media favored Barack Obama during the 2008 election.

 

[Roudy]

Of course not. She's also a radical and a professional liar like Obama. She showed who she is during Bill Clinton's presidency and of course while serving under Obama as possibly the worst Secretary of State. Let's not forget that she and Obama got in front of the Cameras and lied to the America about Ben Ghazi. That alone would have been the end of both their careers had it not been for the media pushing it under the rug.

Worse than Condi Rice? LOL.

You republicans always trying to push Rush's narrative. So cute.

But it's working. Even my dad who liked Hillary was saying the other day she's not trustworthy. So your witch hunt is working. I'll be glad if Bernie Sanders wins but I'll take Biden or Gore.

If anybody other than Hillary becomes the nominee it's game over for the Dems. Sanders is an admitted socialist, and Biden served as Obama's VP which everyone is trying to disassociate themselves from.

It's time for a republican to step in and fix some of the Obamas fuckups. Unfortunately, this is how the presidential election cycle works. It's corrective. Every 4 or 8 years someone from the opposing party steps in and swings the country hard right or hard left. Not often we see presidents like Reagan who attracted many Democrats or Clinton who attracted many republicans.

Just like the Greeks didn't care the guy running was a socialist, the people in America won't care when they realize what being a socialist means. It means you don't want corporations to rule. It means you value your government. It doesn't mean you are anti capitalism. Just not unregulated free market capitalism is just as dirty an ism as all the others.

Damn, did you just use GREECE as an example?! You did, didn't you? Ha ha ha.

Didn't America almost go bankrupt? And the GOP are asking the poor and middle class to pick up the tab? Sounds like Greece, France, Arab uprising. Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt?

Last question. What is our national debt? Go look at that and then make fun of Greece. Not only do the bankers (corporations) own you so does china. You only have a savings account as long as the bankers say you do and your home is only worth what they say it's worth.

Yes, when the Democrats forced the banks to give loans to everybody and his uncle, the shit was going to hit the fan sooner or later.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Well, debt or no debt we have to pay for infrastructure, science, our police, the best science institutions on the planet and our educational system. I can see a lot of shit we could cut before them.

We're already back to the early 1990's for infrastructure...You loserterians really do want to live like the taliban. right?

 

[sealybobo]

Worse than Condi Rice? LOL.

You republicans always trying to push Rush's narrative. So cute.

But it's working. Even my dad who liked Hillary was saying the other day she's not trustworthy. So your witch hunt is working. I'll be glad if Bernie Sanders wins but I'll take Biden or Gore.

If anybody other than Hillary becomes the nominee it's game over for the Dems. Sanders is an admitted socialist, and Biden served as Obama's VP which everyone is trying to disassociate themselves from.

It's time for a republican to step in and fix some of the Obamas fuckups. Unfortunately, this is how the presidential election cycle works. It's corrective. Every 4 or 8 years someone from the opposing party steps in and swings the country hard right or hard left. Not often we see presidents like Reagan who attracted many Democrats or Clinton who attracted many republicans.

Just like the Greeks didn't care the guy running was a socialist, the people in America won't care when they realize what being a socialist means. It means you don't want corporations to rule. It means you value your government. It doesn't mean you are anti capitalism. Just not unregulated free market capitalism is just as dirty an ism as all the others.

Damn, did you just use GREECE as an example?! You did, didn't you? Ha ha ha.

Didn't America almost go bankrupt? And the GOP are asking the poor and middle class to pick up the tab? Sounds like Greece, France, Arab uprising. Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt?

Last question. What is our national debt? Go look at that and then make fun of Greece. Not only do the bankers (corporations) own you so does china. You only have a savings account as long as the bankers say you do and your home is only worth what they say it's worth.

Yes, when the Democrats forced the banks to give loans to everybody and his uncle, the shit was going to hit the fan sooner or later.

They were all working. Who know the corporate/GOP evil plot to send all those jobs overseas just so they could break unions, renig on pensions, give the rich and corporations tax breaks,pay Chinese wages hire illegals workers, cut ss and Medicare. All while waging two wars.

It's called disaster capitalism.

 

[Roudy]

Biggest Lie Ever!

I backed my claim up with history, you got nothing.

fdr and obama upped spending
fdr and obama upped taxes
fdr and obama created a program that added to the debt
fdr and obama slowed recovery with their idiotic ideas


you stand corrected by facts

FDR and Obama fixed the worst Republican economic disasters of their era

by making it worse and last longer than it should have.

history tells us, clearly, that cutting taxes and spending brings depressions-recessions to much quicker ends.

obama has a college degree and hire people with degrees, so they should have known history

Obama is an inexperienced radical moron, a product of socialistic, anti capitalist, anti american indoctrination that occurs in universities across the US.

That's why the first thing he did as president was go on an apology tour. He recently insulted the British by returning Churchill's bust, a gift given by the British which has been in the White House for decades. That alone tells you a lot about his ideology.

Record Corp profits, lowest EFFECTIVE tax rates on Corps in 40 years, lowest EFFECTIVE tax burden on the "job creators" for a sustained period since 1932. Obama is a horrible socialist then!

Yeah, Obama is definitely known as the "business friendly" president. Ha ha ha.

Obama continues attack on Chamber of Commerce

 

[Dad2three]

Worse than Condi Rice? LOL.

You republicans always trying to push Rush's narrative. So cute.

But it's working. Even my dad who liked Hillary was saying the other day she's not trustworthy. So your witch hunt is working. I'll be glad if Bernie Sanders wins but I'll take Biden or Gore.

If anybody other than Hillary becomes the nominee it's game over for the Dems. Sanders is an admitted socialist, and Biden served as Obama's VP which everyone is trying to disassociate themselves from.

It's time for a republican to step in and fix some of the Obamas fuckups. Unfortunately, this is how the presidential election cycle works. It's corrective. Every 4 or 8 years someone from the opposing party steps in and swings the country hard right or hard left. Not often we see presidents like Reagan who attracted many Democrats or Clinton who attracted many republicans.

Just like the Greeks didn't care the guy running was a socialist, the people in America won't care when they realize what being a socialist means. It means you don't want corporations to rule. It means you value your government. It doesn't mean you are anti capitalism. Just not unregulated free market capitalism is just as dirty an ism as all the others.

Damn, did you just use GREECE as an example?! You did, didn't you? Ha ha ha.

Didn't America almost go bankrupt? And the GOP are asking the poor and middle class to pick up the tab? Sounds like Greece, France, Arab uprising. Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt?

Last question. What is our national debt? Go look at that and then make fun of Greece. Not only do the bankers (corporations) own you so does china. You only have a savings account as long as the bankers say you do and your home is only worth what they say it's worth.

Yes, when the Democrats forced the banks to give loans to everybody and his uncle, the shit was going to hit the fan sooner or later.

Weird, Dems huh?



Jun 16th 2005

The worldwide rise in house prices is the biggest bubble in history. Prepare for the economic pain when it pops


NEVER before have real house prices risen so fast, for so long, in so many countries. Property markets have been frothing from America, Britain and Australia to France, Spain and China. Rising property prices helped to prop up the world economy after the stockmarket bubble burst in 2000. What if the housing boom now turns to bust?

According to estimates by The Economist, the total value of residential property in developed economies rose by more than $30 trillion over the past five years, to over $70 trillion, an increase equivalent to 100% of those countries' combined GDPs. Not only does this dwarf any previous house-price boom, it is larger than the global stockmarket bubble in the late 1990s (an increase over five years of 80% of GDP) or America's stockmarket bubble in the late 1920s (55% of GDP). In other words, it looks like the biggest bubble in history.


http://www.economist.com/node/4079027


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."



The banks have known for 30 years the risks involved on the loan products they sold. This is why they lobbied so hard to allow them to sell the bad products to investors so they would not be holding the bad paper or the risks. The developed the products like stated income stated assets then bundled them to make it appear they were blended risks and then sold them to multiple investors. Who bought these high risk loans?




Nobody forced the big five investment banks to do what they did; they were not subject to CRA or other regulations common to depository banks. In fact, they mainly bought and sold loans rather than originate them. They did it because they thought they would make money.

FACTS on Dubya's great recession | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum


YEP, DUBYA'S REGULATOR FAILURE, AS HE CHEERED ON THE BANKSTERS WORLD WIDE CREDIT BUBBLE HIT US HARD BUBBA

 

[sealybobo]

Well, debt or no debt we have to pay for infrastructure, science, our police, the best science institutions on the planet and our educational system. I can see a lot of shit we could cut before them.

We're already back to the early 1990's for infrastructure...You loserterians really do want to live like the taliban. right?

Today I heard the people hurting the most are non educated men. They use to go work for the big 3 or a supplier now they go work at Walmart.

 

[Dad2three]

Worse than Condi Rice? LOL.

You republicans always trying to push Rush's narrative. So cute.

But it's working. Even my dad who liked Hillary was saying the other day she's not trustworthy. So your witch hunt is working. I'll be glad if Bernie Sanders wins but I'll take Biden or Gore.

If anybody other than Hillary becomes the nominee it's game over for the Dems. Sanders is an admitted socialist, and Biden served as Obama's VP which everyone is trying to disassociate themselves from.

It's time for a republican to step in and fix some of the Obamas fuckups. Unfortunately, this is how the presidential election cycle works. It's corrective. Every 4 or 8 years someone from the opposing party steps in and swings the country hard right or hard left. Not often we see presidents like Reagan who attracted many Democrats or Clinton who attracted many republicans.

Oh now you guys liked Bill? Back then he was a socialist. See, you guys fling these words around too much.

Oh OK, Bill Clinton was a socialist president. Greatest business environment and capitalistic administration in the 20 century. What exactly is in that coolaid that you guys are drinking?

FLASHBACK: In 1993, GOP Warned That Clinton’s Tax Plan Would ‘Kill Jobs,’ ‘Kill The Current Recovery’

The Bush tax cuts of 2001 and 2003 are scheduled to expire at the end of the year, and President Obama, just as he did on the campaign trail, has proposed renewing the cuts for all but those in the highest two income tax brackets, allowing tax rates for the wealthiest two percent of Americans to reset to the rate at which they were under President Clinton.

Republicans, however, want to renew all of the cuts, and have been apoplectic about Obama’s plan, claiming that it will kill jobs and cripple small businesses. “This is about stopping a job-killing tax hike on small businesses during tough economic times,” said Sen. Orrin Hatch (R-UT). “You can’t raise taxes in the middle of a weak economy without risking a double dip in the recession,” said House Minority Leader John Boehner (R-OH).

If these warnings about double-dip recessions and job-killing tax increases sound vaguely familiar, that’s because they are. TaxVox yesterday pointed to a couple of quotes from Republicans in 1993 employing very similar rhetoric as today’s Republicans, with then Senate Minority leader Bob Dole (R-KS), claiming that “half the tax increase because of the rate increases is going to be paid by small business and they’re not rich,” which is the same false argument employed by today’s Senate Minority Leader, Mitch McConnell (R-KY).

Here is just some of the rhetoric employed by Republicans in 1993 to fearmonger about Clinton’s tax increases (there’s more below the fold):

Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA), February 2, 1993: We have all too many people in the Democratic administration who are talking about bigger Government, bigger bureaucracy, more programs, and higher taxes. I believe that that will in fact kill the current recovery and put us back in a recession. It might take 1 1/2 or 2 years, but it will happen. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Bill Archer (R-TX), May 24, 1993: I would much rather be here today supporting the President and I would do so if his proposals could expect to increase jobs and the standard of living for Americans, but I believe his massive tax increases will do just the opposite. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-GA), July 13, 1993: Small businesses generate the bulk of this Nation’s new jobs. And they will be the hardest hit by the Clinton tax-and-spend budget. Because, when you raise taxes, you kill jobs. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Christopher Cox (R-CA), May, 27, 1993: This is really the Dr. Kevorkian plan for our economy. It will kill jobs, kill businesses, and yes, kill even the higher tax revenues that these suicidal tax increasers hope to gain. (Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H2949)

Of course, far from bringing the Doomsday of which Republicans were warning, Clinton’s policies ushered in the longest sustained period of economic growth in the nation’s history, with 23 million jobs created. Compared to the administration of George W. Bush, the Clinton-era saw more job growth, more GDP growth, more wage growth, and more business investment. Incomes grew under Clinton but fell under Bush, while poverty did the opposite, falling under Clinton but increasing under Bush.

Oh, and Clinton balanced the budget for the first time since 1969. On May 27, 1993, Rep. Robert Michel (R-IL) said “[Americans] will remember who set loose this dreadful virus into the economic bloodstream of our nation.” If only we could have a “dreadful virus” of that sort today. More quotes below the jump.:

Rep. Newt Gingrich (R-GA), February 2, 1993: We have all too many people in the Democratic administration who are talking about bigger Government, bigger bureaucracy, more programs, and higher taxes. I believe that that will in fact kill the current recovery and put us back in a recession. It might take 1 1/2 or 2 years, but it will happen. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Bill Archer (R-TX), May 24, 1993: I would much rather be here today supporting the President and I would do so if his proposals could expect to increase jobs and the standard of living for Americans, but I believe his massive tax increases will do just the opposite. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Bob Goodlatte (R-GA), July 13, 1993: Small businesses generate the bulk of this Nation’s new jobs . And they will be the hardest hit by the Clinton tax-and-spend budget. Because, when you raise taxes, you kill jobs. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. Thomas Ewing (R-IL), February 21, 1993: The Clinton plan will hurt the economy and kill new job creation…By crippling small- and medium-sized businesses, the plan will kill jobs. (Congressional Record, 1993, Thomas)

Rep. John Kasich (R-OH), August 5, 1993: Do you know what? This is now your package. We will come back here next year and try to help you when this puts the economy in the gutter. And virtually every major economic estimating firm in this country says your bill is going to kill jobs. (Congressional Record 1993, Page: H6249)

Rep. Robert Dornan (R-CA), August 5, 1993: The problem with our economy is that there is too little employment and too little growth. This plan will do nothing to improve that condition and will actually make it worse. (Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H6148)

Rep. Christopher Cox (R-CA), May, 27, 1993: This is really the Dr. Kevorkian plan for our economy. It will kill jobs, kill businesses, and yes, kill even the higher tax revenues that these suicidal tax increasers hope to gain. (Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H2949)

Rep. Jim Ramstad (R-MN), March 17, 1993: These new taxes will stifle economic growth, destroy jobs, reduce revenues, and increase the deficit. Economists across the ideological spectrum are convinced that the Clinton tax increases will lead to widespread job loss. (Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H1355)

Rep. Phil Crane (R-IL), March 18, 1993: The budget proposal offered by the Democrats is a recipe for economic and fiscal disaster…It proposes to increase taxes at a time when we have a fragile economy–higher taxes will only stifle job creation and economic growth.(Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H1454)

Rep. Dick Armey (R-TX), August 2, 1993: The impact on job creation is going to be devastating, and the American young people in particular will suffer a fairly substantial deferment of their lives because there simply won’t be jobs for the next two to three years to go around to our young graduates across the country. (CNN)

Rep. Joel Hefley (R-CO), August 4, 1993: However Clinton wants to spin his tax plan, the bottom line is this: It will raise your taxes, increase the deficit, and kill over 1 million jobs. (Congressional Record, 1993, Page: H5745)

Flashback!

Bill Clinton's 8 digs at Obama

In the past Clinton has ribbed Obama's lack of experience.

By Kevin Cirilli

09/05/12, 07:23 AM EDT

There’s only one president who actually came from Hope.

Former President Bill Clinton — a native of Hope, Ark. — is expected to offer a rousing endorsement of President Barack Obama in his speech Wednesday night at the Democratic National Convention. But four years ago, while his wife Hillary competed for the Democratic nomination, Clinton wasn’t always so supportive of Obama’s “hope and change” message.

Here are Bill Clinton’s most controversial quotes about Obama:

1. “The idea that one of these campaigns is positive and the other is negative when I know the reverse is true and I have seen it and I have been blistered by it for months is a little tough to take. Just because of the sanitizing coverage that’s in the media doesn’t mean the facts aren’t out there.” — Jan. 7, 2008; New Hampshire campaign stop

2. “I think that they played the race card on me. We now know, from memos from the campaign, that they planned to do it all along.” — April 21, 2008, WHYY News Radio

3. “In theory, we could find someone who is a gifted television commentator and let them run. They’d have only one year less experience in national politics.” — Dec. 15, 2007, PBS’s “ Charlie Rose”

4. “Give me a break. This whole thing is the biggest fairy tale I’ve ever seen.” — Jan. 7, 2008, addressing Obama’s record on Iraq during a New Hampshire stop

5. “Hillary’s opponent, in his entire campaign, every two or three weeks has said for months and months and months, beginning in Nevada, that really there wasn’t much difference in how America did when I was president and how America’s done under President Bush. Now, if you believe that, you should probably vote for him, but you get a very bad grade in history.” — April 17, 2008, Lock Haven, Pa., campaign speech

6. “Jesse Jackson won South Carolina in ’84 and ’88. Jackson ran a good campaign. And Obama ran a good campaign here.” — Jan. 26, 2008, to reporters in Columbia, S.C.

7. “I mean, when’s the last time we elected a president based on one year of service in the Senate before he started running? I mean, he will have been a senator longer by the time he’s inaugurated, but essentially once you start running for president full time you don’t have time to do much else.” — Dec. 15, 2007, PBS’s “ Charlie Rose”

8. “Oh, I think yes.” – Dec. 20, 2011, Fox News, when asked if the media favored Barack Obama during the 2008 election.

All that and he still campaigned for Obama? Wow Obama must be a hell of a guy to get BJ Bill on board right?

 

[sealybobo]

If anybody other than Hillary becomes the nominee it's game over for the Dems. Sanders is an admitted socialist, and Biden served as Obama's VP which everyone is trying to disassociate themselves from.

It's time for a republican to step in and fix some of the Obamas fuckups. Unfortunately, this is how the presidential election cycle works. It's corrective. Every 4 or 8 years someone from the opposing party steps in and swings the country hard right or hard left. Not often we see presidents like Reagan who attracted many Democrats or Clinton who attracted many republicans.

Just like the Greeks didn't care the guy running was a socialist, the people in America won't care when they realize what being a socialist means. It means you don't want corporations to rule. It means you value your government. It doesn't mean you are anti capitalism. Just not unregulated free market capitalism is just as dirty an ism as all the others.

Damn, did you just use GREECE as an example?! You did, didn't you? Ha ha ha.

Didn't America almost go bankrupt? And the GOP are asking the poor and middle class to pick up the tab? Sounds like Greece, France, Arab uprising. Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt?

Last question. What is our national debt? Go look at that and then make fun of Greece. Not only do the bankers (corporations) own you so does china. You only have a savings account as long as the bankers say you do and your home is only worth what they say it's worth.

Yes, when the Democrats forced the banks to give loans to everybody and his uncle, the shit was going to hit the fan sooner or later.

Weird, Dems huh?



Jun 16th 2005

The worldwide rise in house prices is the biggest bubble in history. Prepare for the economic pain when it pops


NEVER before have real house prices risen so fast, for so long, in so many countries. Property markets have been frothing from America, Britain and Australia to France, Spain and China. Rising property prices helped to prop up the world economy after the stockmarket bubble burst in 2000. What if the housing boom now turns to bust?

According to estimates by The Economist, the total value of residential property in developed economies rose by more than $30 trillion over the past five years, to over $70 trillion, an increase equivalent to 100% of those countries' combined GDPs. Not only does this dwarf any previous house-price boom, it is larger than the global stockmarket bubble in the late 1990s (an increase over five years of 80% of GDP) or America's stockmarket bubble in the late 1920s (55% of GDP). In other words, it looks like the biggest bubble in history.


http://www.economist.com/node/4079027


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."



The banks have known for 30 years the risks involved on the loan products they sold. This is why they lobbied so hard to allow them to sell the bad products to investors so they would not be holding the bad paper or the risks. The developed the products like stated income stated assets then bundled them to make it appear they were blended risks and then sold them to multiple investors. Who bought these high risk loans?




Nobody forced the big five investment banks to do what they did; they were not subject to CRA or other regulations common to depository banks. In fact, they mainly bought and sold loans rather than originate them. They did it because they thought they would make money.

FACTS on Dubya's great recession | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum


YEP, DUBYA'S REGULATOR FAILURE, AS HE CHEERED ON THE BANKSTERS WORLD WIDE CREDIT BUBBLE HIT US HARD BUBBA

I don't think bush is stupid. I think they did it on purpose. Who benefitted from the housing crash? The rich. They bought so many houses for nothing.

 

[Roudy]

If anybody other than Hillary becomes the nominee it's game over for the Dems. Sanders is an admitted socialist, and Biden served as Obama's VP which everyone is trying to disassociate themselves from.

It's time for a republican to step in and fix some of the Obamas fuckups. Unfortunately, this is how the presidential election cycle works. It's corrective. Every 4 or 8 years someone from the opposing party steps in and swings the country hard right or hard left. Not often we see presidents like Reagan who attracted many Democrats or Clinton who attracted many republicans.

Just like the Greeks didn't care the guy running was a socialist, the people in America won't care when they realize what being a socialist means. It means you don't want corporations to rule. It means you value your government. It doesn't mean you are anti capitalism. Just not unregulated free market capitalism is just as dirty an ism as all the others.

Damn, did you just use GREECE as an example?! You did, didn't you? Ha ha ha.

Didn't America almost go bankrupt? And the GOP are asking the poor and middle class to pick up the tab? Sounds like Greece, France, Arab uprising. Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt?

Last question. What is our national debt? Go look at that and then make fun of Greece. Not only do the bankers (corporations) own you so does china. You only have a savings account as long as the bankers say you do and your home is only worth what they say it's worth.

Yes, when the Democrats forced the banks to give loans to everybody and his uncle, the shit was going to hit the fan sooner or later.

They were all working. Who know the corporate/GOP evil plot to send all those jobs overseas just so they could break unions, renig on pensions, give the rich and corporations tax breaks,pay Chinese wages hire illegals workers, cut ss and Medicare. All while waging two wars.

It's called disaster capitalism.

No actually it's called disaster socialism where Democrats force the banks to give out loans to people who weren't qualified to get loans. And then greedy Wall Street financial firms and advisors create exotic investment plans with these bad loans. The economy wasn't doing bad, the roof of banks came crashing down on them, and ended up taking everybody down with them. The Democrats and their policies are more to blame, it just ended up happening under Bush.

 

[Dad2three]

I backed my claim up with history, you got nothing.

fdr and obama upped spending
fdr and obama upped taxes
fdr and obama created a program that added to the debt
fdr and obama slowed recovery with their idiotic ideas


you stand corrected by facts

FDR and Obama fixed the worst Republican economic disasters of their era

by making it worse and last longer than it should have.

history tells us, clearly, that cutting taxes and spending brings depressions-recessions to much quicker ends.

obama has a college degree and hire people with degrees, so they should have known history

Obama is an inexperienced radical moron, a product of socialistic, anti capitalist, anti american indoctrination that occurs in universities across the US.

That's why the first thing he did as president was go on an apology tour. He recently insulted the British by returning Churchill's bust, a gift given by the British which has been in the White House for decades. That alone tells you a lot about his ideology.

Record Corp profits, lowest EFFECTIVE tax rates on Corps in 40 years, lowest EFFECTIVE tax burden on the "job creators" for a sustained period since 1932. Obama is a horrible socialist then!

Yeah, Obama is definitely known as the "business friendly" president. Ha ha ha.

Obama continues attack on Chamber of Commerce

YOUR LINK:


The White House intensified its attacks Sunday on the powerful U.S. Chamber of Commerce for its alleged ties to foreign donors


LOL

President Obama, speaking at a rally in Philadelphia, said "the American people deserve to know who is trying to sway their elections" and raised the possibility that foreigners could be funding his opponents.

"You don't know," Obama said at the rally for Senate candidate Joe Sestak and other Democrats. "It could be the oil industry. It could even be foreign-owned corporations. You don't know because they don't have to disclose."


..."If the chamber opens up its books and says, 'Here's where our political money's coming from,' then we'll know," Axelrod said. "But until they do that, all we have is their assertion."

 

[JakeStarkey]

GOP owned government from 1994 to 2006 with two very compliant presidents. They and idjits like Roudy own the disaster.

 

[ScienceRocks]

Just like the Greeks didn't care the guy running was a socialist, the people in America won't care when they realize what being a socialist means. It means you don't want corporations to rule. It means you value your government. It doesn't mean you are anti capitalism. Just not unregulated free market capitalism is just as dirty an ism as all the others.

Damn, did you just use GREECE as an example?! You did, didn't you? Ha ha ha.

Didn't America almost go bankrupt? And the GOP are asking the poor and middle class to pick up the tab? Sounds like Greece, France, Arab uprising. Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt?

Last question. What is our national debt? Go look at that and then make fun of Greece. Not only do the bankers (corporations) own you so does china. You only have a savings account as long as the bankers say you do and your home is only worth what they say it's worth.

Yes, when the Democrats forced the banks to give loans to everybody and his uncle, the shit was going to hit the fan sooner or later.

Weird, Dems huh?



Jun 16th 2005

The worldwide rise in house prices is the biggest bubble in history. Prepare for the economic pain when it pops


NEVER before have real house prices risen so fast, for so long, in so many countries. Property markets have been frothing from America, Britain and Australia to France, Spain and China. Rising property prices helped to prop up the world economy after the stockmarket bubble burst in 2000. What if the housing boom now turns to bust?

According to estimates by The Economist, the total value of residential property in developed economies rose by more than $30 trillion over the past five years, to over $70 trillion, an increase equivalent to 100% of those countries' combined GDPs. Not only does this dwarf any previous house-price boom, it is larger than the global stockmarket bubble in the late 1990s (an increase over five years of 80% of GDP) or America's stockmarket bubble in the late 1920s (55% of GDP). In other words, it looks like the biggest bubble in history.


http://www.economist.com/node/4079027


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."



The banks have known for 30 years the risks involved on the loan products they sold. This is why they lobbied so hard to allow them to sell the bad products to investors so they would not be holding the bad paper or the risks. The developed the products like stated income stated assets then bundled them to make it appear they were blended risks and then sold them to multiple investors. Who bought these high risk loans?




Nobody forced the big five investment banks to do what they did; they were not subject to CRA or other regulations common to depository banks. In fact, they mainly bought and sold loans rather than originate them. They did it because they thought they would make money.

FACTS on Dubya's great recession | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum


YEP, DUBYA'S REGULATOR FAILURE, AS HE CHEERED ON THE BANKSTERS WORLD WIDE CREDIT BUBBLE HIT US HARD BUBBA

I don't think bush is stupid. I think they did it on purpose. Who benefitted from the housing crash? The rich. They bought so many houses for nothing.

Who benefits from outsourcing...The rich
Who benefits from breaking the unions...The rich
Who benefits from all the loop holes...The rich
Who benefits from Reagans tax breaks...The rich
On and on

The rich have never given a fuck about the condition of the poor,,,let alone the middle class.

 

[Dad2three]

Just like the Greeks didn't care the guy running was a socialist, the people in America won't care when they realize what being a socialist means. It means you don't want corporations to rule. It means you value your government. It doesn't mean you are anti capitalism. Just not unregulated free market capitalism is just as dirty an ism as all the others.

Damn, did you just use GREECE as an example?! You did, didn't you? Ha ha ha.

Didn't America almost go bankrupt? And the GOP are asking the poor and middle class to pick up the tab? Sounds like Greece, France, Arab uprising. Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt?

Last question. What is our national debt? Go look at that and then make fun of Greece. Not only do the bankers (corporations) own you so does china. You only have a savings account as long as the bankers say you do and your home is only worth what they say it's worth.

Yes, when the Democrats forced the banks to give loans to everybody and his uncle, the shit was going to hit the fan sooner or later.

They were all working. Who know the corporate/GOP evil plot to send all those jobs overseas just so they could break unions, renig on pensions, give the rich and corporations tax breaks,pay Chinese wages hire illegals workers, cut ss and Medicare. All while waging two wars.

It's called disaster capitalism.

No actually it's called disaster socialism where Democrats force the banks to give out loans to people who weren't qualified to get loans. And then greedy Wall Street financial firms and advisors create exotic investment plans with these bad loans. The economy wasn't doing bad, the roof of banks came crashing down in them, and ended up taking everybody down with them.

It is clear to anyone who has studied the financial crisis of 2008 that the private sector’s drive for short-term profit was behind it. More than 84 percent of the sub-prime mortgages in 2006 were issued by private lending. These private firms made nearly 83 percent of the subprime loans to low- and moderate-income borrowers that year. Out of the top 25 subprime lenders in 2006, only one was subject to the usual mortgage laws and regulations. The nonbank underwriters made more than 12 million subprime mortgages with a value of nearly $2 trillion. The lenders who made these were exempt from federal regulations.

Lest We Forget: Why We Had A Financial Crisis



DEMS HAVE A LOT OF POWER UNDER DUBYA DID THEY?

 

[sealybobo]

Just like the Greeks didn't care the guy running was a socialist, the people in America won't care when they realize what being a socialist means. It means you don't want corporations to rule. It means you value your government. It doesn't mean you are anti capitalism. Just not unregulated free market capitalism is just as dirty an ism as all the others.

Damn, did you just use GREECE as an example?! You did, didn't you? Ha ha ha.

Didn't America almost go bankrupt? And the GOP are asking the poor and middle class to pick up the tab? Sounds like Greece, France, Arab uprising. Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt?

Last question. What is our national debt? Go look at that and then make fun of Greece. Not only do the bankers (corporations) own you so does china. You only have a savings account as long as the bankers say you do and your home is only worth what they say it's worth.

Yes, when the Democrats forced the banks to give loans to everybody and his uncle, the shit was going to hit the fan sooner or later.

They were all working. Who know the corporate/GOP evil plot to send all those jobs overseas just so they could break unions, renig on pensions, give the rich and corporations tax breaks,pay Chinese wages hire illegals workers, cut ss and Medicare. All while waging two wars.

It's called disaster capitalism.

No actually it's called disaster socialism where Democrats force the banks to give out loans to people who weren't qualified to get loans. And then greedy Wall Street financial firms and advisors create exotic investment plans with these bad loans. The economy wasn't doing bad, the roof of banks came crashing down on them, and ended up taking everybody down with them. The Democrats and their policies are more to blame, it just ended up happening under Bush.

Do you remember all the nefarious ways the GOP deregulated the banks and mortgage industries? Almost like they did it on purpose. Need an example because you had your head up your ass back then? Bush loosened how much money banks had to keep in their reserves in case of an emergency. Said it was to help stimulate the economy.

Now you fools say the GOP saw the collapse coming and you warned us. If that's true, why did they loosen bank regulations? I don't think they are that stupid.

 

[Roudy]

Just like the Greeks didn't care the guy running was a socialist, the people in America won't care when they realize what being a socialist means. It means you don't want corporations to rule. It means you value your government. It doesn't mean you are anti capitalism. Just not unregulated free market capitalism is just as dirty an ism as all the others.

Damn, did you just use GREECE as an example?! You did, didn't you? Ha ha ha.

Didn't America almost go bankrupt? And the GOP are asking the poor and middle class to pick up the tab? Sounds like Greece, France, Arab uprising. Isn't Puerto Rico bankrupt?

Last question. What is our national debt? Go look at that and then make fun of Greece. Not only do the bankers (corporations) own you so does china. You only have a savings account as long as the bankers say you do and your home is only worth what they say it's worth.

Yes, when the Democrats forced the banks to give loans to everybody and his uncle, the shit was going to hit the fan sooner or later.

Weird, Dems huh?



Jun 16th 2005

The worldwide rise in house prices is the biggest bubble in history. Prepare for the economic pain when it pops


NEVER before have real house prices risen so fast, for so long, in so many countries. Property markets have been frothing from America, Britain and Australia to France, Spain and China. Rising property prices helped to prop up the world economy after the stockmarket bubble burst in 2000. What if the housing boom now turns to bust?

According to estimates by The Economist, the total value of residential property in developed economies rose by more than $30 trillion over the past five years, to over $70 trillion, an increase equivalent to 100% of those countries' combined GDPs. Not only does this dwarf any previous house-price boom, it is larger than the global stockmarket bubble in the late 1990s (an increase over five years of 80% of GDP) or America's stockmarket bubble in the late 1920s (55% of GDP). In other words, it looks like the biggest bubble in history.


http://www.economist.com/node/4079027


Right-wingers Want To Erase How George Bush's "Homeowner Society" Helped Cause The Economic Collapse


2004 Republican Convention:

Another priority for a new term is to build an ownership society, because ownership brings security and dignity and independence.
...

Thanks to our policies, home ownership in America is at an all- time high.

(APPLAUSE)

Tonight we set a new goal: 7 million more affordable homes in the next 10 years, so more American families will be able to open the door and say, "Welcome to my home."



The banks have known for 30 years the risks involved on the loan products they sold. This is why they lobbied so hard to allow them to sell the bad products to investors so they would not be holding the bad paper or the risks. The developed the products like stated income stated assets then bundled them to make it appear they were blended risks and then sold them to multiple investors. Who bought these high risk loans?




Nobody forced the big five investment banks to do what they did; they were not subject to CRA or other regulations common to depository banks. In fact, they mainly bought and sold loans rather than originate them. They did it because they thought they would make money.

FACTS on Dubya's great recession | US Message Board - Political Discussion Forum


YEP, DUBYA'S REGULATOR FAILURE, AS HE CHEERED ON THE BANKSTERS WORLD WIDE CREDIT BUBBLE HIT US HARD BUBBA

I don't think bush is stupid. I think they did it on purpose. Who benefitted from the housing crash? The rich. They bought so many houses for nothing.

The banks benefited the most and the people the least. They ended up getting "bailed out" and stopped giving out loans. The so called stimulus package did the exact opposite, the banks had no incentive to give out loans to make money. Instead they took the free govt money and invested it elsewhere. Overall Obama took a fire and poured gasoline on it,min essence destroying the economy. Thats one reason why the recovery never happened. Obaama is actually really at it doing this. Fanning the fires of racial and economic division is how he's taught the Dems to gain more voters.

 

[mudwhistle]

And these models are never wrong ...

Our Moody's Analytics election model now predicts a Democratic electoral landslide in the 2016 presidential vote. A small change in the forecast data in August has swung the outcome from the statistical tie predicted in July, to a razor-edge ballot outcome that nevertheless gives the incumbent party 326 electoral votes to the Republican challenger's 212.

Just three states account for the change in margin, with Ohio, Florida and Colorado swinging from leaning Republican to leaning Democrat. The margin of victory in each of these important swing states is still solidly within the margin of error though, and will likely swing back and forth in Moody's monthly updates ahead, underlining the closeness of the election to come. Furthermore, three of the candidates for the Republican nomination enjoy favorite-son status in Ohio or Florida, potentially making the outcome of those important states even more unpredictable.
​

Democrats to Win in a Landslide in 2016, According to Moody's Election Model

Yup......doesn't matter who the Democrat is.....they win cuz they pumped swing states full of illegals.