Modern Day Civil War.

[JakeStarkey]

In other words, you have no evidence for your statement that more will die with insurance than without. No need to talk to you further.

 

[froggy]

Promising no money from healthcare bill will go to abortions is what got it passed, so all pro-lifer deserve the credit for the ins. bill passing.

 

[Cuyo]

The Tea Party somehow has this romantic view that they are the moral equivalent to the Patriots of the American Revolution.

However, their tactics, rhetoric and actions place them closer to the Southern racists who protested the Civil Rights legislation. Both thought the Constitution was on their side and both thought they were patriotic, both screamed about States Rights, both screamed about secession, both blamed the Liberals for all their problems.

History will look at both with disdain

Well said, grasshopper. Well said.

 

[Old Rocks]

We are patriots, and the only thing that history will disdain is the bankrupting of this country by a bunch of liberal lunatics who actually think we can afford another entitlement program when the ones we have are unfunded and bankrupting the country already.

BTW- Walgreen's and Walmart across the country are not allowing any new medicaid prescriptions, that's been government run for years. The cost of filling scripts is a lose - lose situation for them.

How many people have died because they HAD health insurance and access to medical care???

Self answering: far less than those who did not.

Source?
I can show how you could be wrong
5 million people have health care and receive treatment; all should survive, and would even without any treatment. 5% get treated by quack doctors and die as a result, that is 250,000 dead because they got treatment.
1 million people do not have health care and do not receive treatment. Half of those do not have serious conditions and survive easily. Half have serious conditions and only 60% of them survive. That yields 200,000 dead from lack of health care.

In that situation more died from having bad health care than died from not having health care.

So we really need a link for your source.

Just cannot keep from continueing to prove yourself an idiot, can you.

 

[rightwinger]

The Tea Party somehow has this romantic view that they are the moral equivalent to the Patriots of the American Revolution.

However, their tactics, rhetoric and actions place them closer to the Southern racists who protested the Civil Rights legislation. Both thought the Constitution was on their side and both thought they were patriotic, both screamed about States Rights, both screamed about secession, both blamed the Liberals for all their problems.

History will look at both with disdain

We are patriots, and the only thing that history will disdain is the bankrupting of this country by a bunch of liberal lunatics who actually think we can afford another entitlement program when the ones we have are unfunded and bankrupting the country already.

BTW- Walgreen's and Walmart across the country are not allowing any new medicaid prescriptions, that's been government run for years. The cost of filling scripts is a lose - lose situation for them.

How many people have died because they HAD health insurance and access to medical care???

You will be remembered for the radical element you allowed to take over your movement, for your insensitivity to sick people, for harrassing a man with Parkinsons disease, for infiltrating town halls and refusing to let others speak and for your racist underbelly

 

[saveliberty]

The Tea Party somehow has this romantic view that they are the moral equivalent to the Patriots of the American Revolution.

However, their tactics, rhetoric and actions place them closer to the Southern racists who protested the Civil Rights legislation. Both thought the Constitution was on their side and both thought they were patriotic, both screamed about States Rights, both screamed about secession, both blamed the Liberals for all their problems.

History will look at both with disdain

We are patriots, and the only thing that history will disdain is the bankrupting of this country by a bunch of liberal lunatics who actually think we can afford another entitlement program when the ones we have are unfunded and bankrupting the country already.

BTW- Walgreen's and Walmart across the country are not allowing any new medicaid prescriptions, that's been government run for years. The cost of filling scripts is a lose - lose situation for them.

How many people have died because they HAD health insurance and access to medical care???

You will be remembered for the radical element you allowed to take over your movement, for your insensitivity to sick people, for harrassing a man with Parkinsons disease, for infiltrating town halls and refusing to let others speak and for your racist underbelly

Gee Maple, you've been really busy. I wish I could manage my time as well. Perhaps you will be remembered as someone who asked for no entitlement from his country. That requested fiscal responsibility be exercised for the benefit of every American. That saw the financial ruin of our country meant less opportunity for America and less ability to provide health to any person here. That was colorblind and deaf to the shrill alarms of those who merely sought to gain control over your life and future.

 

[JakeStarkey]

We are patriots, and the only thing that history will disdain is the bankrupting of this country by a bunch of liberal lunatics who actually think we can afford another entitlement program when the ones we have are unfunded and bankrupting the country already.

BTW- Walgreen's and Walmart across the country are not allowing any new medicaid prescriptions, that's been government run for years. The cost of filling scripts is a lose - lose situation for them.

How many people have died because they HAD health insurance and access to medical care???

You will be remembered for the radical element you allowed to take over your movement, for your insensitivity to sick people, for harrassing a man with Parkinsons disease, for infiltrating town halls and refusing to let others speak and for your racist underbelly

Gee Maple, you've been really busy. I wish I could manage my time as well. Perhaps you will be remembered as someone who asked for no entitlement from his country. That requested fiscal responsibility be exercised for the benefit of every American. That saw the financial ruin of our country meant less opportunity for America and less ability to provide health to any person here. That was colorblind and deaf to the shrill alarms of those who merely sought to gain control over your life and future.

Isn't Maple on government assistance?

 

[PatekPhilippe]

The Tea Party somehow has this romantic view that they are the moral equivalent to the Patriots of the American Revolution.

However, their tactics, rhetoric and actions place them closer to the Southern racists who protested the Civil Rights legislation. Both thought the Constitution was on their side and both thought they were patriotic, both screamed about States Rights, both screamed about secession, both blamed the Liberals for all their problems.

History will look at both with disdain

We are patriots, and the only thing that history will disdain is the bankrupting of this country by a bunch of liberal lunatics who actually think we can afford another entitlement program when the ones we have are unfunded and bankrupting the country already.

BTW- Walgreen's and Walmart across the country are not allowing any new medicaid prescriptions, that's been government run for years. The cost of filling scripts is a lose - lose situation for them.

How many people have died because they HAD health insurance and access to medical care???

You will be remembered for the radical element you allowed to take over your movement, for your insensitivity to sick people, for harrassing a man with Parkinsons disease, for infiltrating town halls and refusing to let others speak and for your racist underbelly

Likewise....and as an added point of order...no matter how many times you and other sychophants try to pin racism and bigotry on the Republicans....know this...the Democrats and people like you will ALWAYS and FOREVER OWN THE RACIST POLICYS THIS COUNTRY HAD, HAS NOW AND THOSE IT TRYS TO FIX. All that Dixiecrat shit from the 60's is nothing but lies. Ask The Grand Cleagle of the Senate and KKK recruiter....Mr. Byrd. (Democrat)

 

[BolshevikHunter]

The Tea Party somehow has this romantic view that they are the moral equivalent to the Patriots of the American Revolution.

However, their tactics, rhetoric and actions place them closer to the Southern racists who protested the Civil Rights legislation. Both thought the Constitution was on their side and both thought they were patriotic, both screamed about States Rights, both screamed about secession, both blamed the Liberals for all their problems.

History will look at both with disdain

We are patriots, and the only thing that history will disdain is the bankrupting of this country by a bunch of liberal lunatics who actually think we can afford another entitlement program when the ones we have are unfunded and bankrupting the country already.

BTW- Walgreen's and Walmart across the country are not allowing any new medicaid prescriptions, that's been government run for years. The cost of filling scripts is a lose - lose situation for them.

How many people have died because they HAD health insurance and access to medical care???

You will be remembered for the radical element you allowed to take over your movement, for your insensitivity to sick people, for harrassing a man with Parkinsons disease, for infiltrating town halls and refusing to let others speak and for your racist underbelly

You're such a fucking fool. You get what you work for in this Country you mentally ill dipshit. You think you can shoulder World Poverty? LOL!!! I laugh at your pipe dreams. You're a fucking unrealistic, clueless moron. Weak minded people like you bring down Nations with your fantasy World. ~BH

 

[Fenris Wolf]

The Tea Party somehow has this romantic view that they are the moral equivalent to the Patriots of the American Revolution.

However, their tactics, rhetoric and actions place them closer to the Southern racists who protested the Civil Rights legislation. Both thought the Constitution was on their side and both thought they were patriotic, both screamed about States Rights, both screamed about secession, both blamed the Liberals for all their problems.

History will look at both with disdain

You version of the civil war is remedial at best. The Union was under the control of Lincoln who was a Republican Conservative who was indifferent to the abolitionist movement. He was fear-full that European nations would attack the rest of the Union in a weakened state. Which could have been possible since the French, along with a few other nations, were involved with commerce almost exclusively with the south and also supplied them during the war. The Confederacy was under the control of Jacksonian Democrats who were pro-slavery.
Secession is a American as apple pie, after all our country was founded on secession for a tyrannical government.
President Buchanan even said it is unconstitutional to use force to coerce a state to stay in the Union in 1860.

 

[Charles Stucker]

The anti-secession folks must want to be British subjects again. After all sauce for the goose is sauce for the gander. No one alive voted to join the United States. No one (or very few) who fought on the side of the continentals during the Revolutionary period voted or volunteered to colonize America with grants from the English crown. So either a local populace has NO right to self determination (and hence must submit to tyrannical rule by a distant government) or it does. If it does, then the colonies had a right to rebel and states have a right to secede. If not, then go live in England you Tories.

 

[rightwinger]

The Tea Party somehow has this romantic view that they are the moral equivalent to the Patriots of the American Revolution.

However, their tactics, rhetoric and actions place them closer to the Southern racists who protested the Civil Rights legislation. Both thought the Constitution was on their side and both thought they were patriotic, both screamed about States Rights, both screamed about secession, both blamed the Liberals for all their problems.

History will look at both with disdain

You version of the civil war is remedial at best. The Union was under the control of Lincoln who was a Republican Conservative who was indifferent to the abolitionist movement. He was fear-full that European nations would attack the rest of the Union in a weakened state. Which could have been possible since the French, along with a few other nations, were involved with commerce almost exclusively with the south and also supplied them during the war. The Confederacy was under the control of Jacksonian Democrats who were pro-slavery.
Secession is a American as apple pie, after all our country was founded on secession for a tyrannical government.
President Buchanan even said it is unconstitutional to use force to coerce a state to stay in the Union in 1860.

At least I know the difference between the Civil War and the American Revolution.

Your concept of the Civil War and Lincolns role is skewed by your revisionist visions

 

[JakeStarkey]

Charles Stucker would have been a very good Tory in the War of Independence. He couldn't be a Patriot with how he believes today.

 

[Charles Stucker]

Charles Stucker would have been a very good Tory in the War of Independence. He couldn't be a Patriot with how he believes today.

I'm the one who DOES believe in local self determination. You are the one who supports the distant repressive regime.
Local self Determination = Patriot
Distant Tyrant = Tory

Hope this clears things up for you, I realize you are helplessly ignorant, but every fact counts. Perhaps one day you will be a real man.

 

[JakeStarkey]

You better go read George Washington, John Adams, and others about your silly philosophy.

 

[Charles Stucker]

You better go read George Washington, John Adams, and others about your silly philosophy.

As I recall, and you can correct me if I am mistaken, but George Washington, commander of the Continental Army during the revolution was fighting on the side of local self determination was he not?