Minimum Wage poll

[Wyatt earp]

if you raise minimum wage up to $25 an hour highly skilled people will just quit their jobs and go work at McDonald's.

but if those already making $25 per hour don't get an adequate raise to keep up with the income rates.....then everyone would be making the same amount regardless of experience or seniority...….isn't that Communism or Socialism or something?

Exactly see my first post...this is the game they don't want us to figure out...but I have over the years.


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BUT a janitor or burger flipper in the same job for 20 years still should not make the same as a doctor or lawyer or mechanic or plumber just starting out either...….

They don't, untill the government artificialy rases the wage...


See that's the thing some one busts their ass makes $8 bucks an hour over minimum wage....then the government comes in and boosts minimum wage up $8 bucks an hour...


Not much a person can do unless he is part of a Union or quits to go to another job.


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IDK, just doesn't sound good all around.....when everything just keeps going up, with no end in site....it can't be good for the people or the country.

So you get the more dollars an hour you make over the minimum wage the better you are off?

 

[C_Clayton_Jones]

I read that currently 2.7% of US workers are paid minimum wage. Elsewhere I read that 42% of US workers make $15/hr or less. So, if we raised minimum wage to $15/hr, we'd have 42% of US workers working for minimum wage. Which left me wonder what reformers see as the ideal percentage.

No, it didn’t.

It ‘left’ you to start an inane thread in bad faith attempting to ridicule minimum wage policy.

Rather than starting a childish thread on the topic, why not address the issue in a serious manner (yes, rhetorical).

 

[Wyatt earp]

I read that currently 2.7% of US workers are paid minimum wage. Elsewhere I read that 42% of US workers make $15/hr or less. So, if we raised minimum wage to $15/hr, we'd have 42% of US workers working for minimum wage. Which left me wonder what reformers see as the ideal percentage.

No, it didn’t.

It ‘left’ you to start an inane thread in bad faith attempting to ridicule minimum wage policy.

Rather than starting a childish thread on the topic, why not address the issue in a serious manner (yes, rhetorical).

Speak English you tard...


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[Jantje_Smit]

IDK, just doesn't sound good all around.....when everything just keeps going up, with no end in site....it can't be good for the people or the country.

Except when it comes to tax cuts for the rich of course... that's always a good thing...

 

[Wyatt earp]

I read that currently 2.7% of US workers are paid minimum wage. Elsewhere I read that 42% of US workers make $15/hr or less. So, if we raised minimum wage to $15/hr, we'd have 42% of US workers working for minimum wage. Which left me wonder what reformers see as the ideal percentage.

No, it didn’t.

It ‘left’ you to start an inane thread in bad faith attempting to ridicule minimum wage policy.

Rather than starting a childish thread on the topic, why not address the issue in a serious manner (yes, rhetorical).

And there is no ridicule of minimum wage, it was based on racism across the world from the start...

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[BULLDOG]

The purchasing power of the $1.60 minimum wage in 1968 was about $11.00 in today's dollars. Since then, the purchasing power of minimum wage has dropped more than 25% while productivity has gone up more than 150%

 

[Wyatt earp]

The purchasing power of the $1.60 minimum wage in 1968 was about $11.00 in today's dollars. Since then, the purchasing power of minimum wage has dropped more than 25% while productivity has gone up more than 150%

Technology made productivity go up, Illegals and a global economy made wages go down.


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[BULLDOG]

The purchasing power of the $1.60 minimum wage in 1968 was about $11.00 in today's dollars. Since then, the purchasing power of minimum wage has dropped more than 25% while productivity has gone up more than 150%

Technology made productivity go up, Illegals and a global economy made wages go down.


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Employers are getting much more output from employees for much less money. Illegals and global economy have nothing to do with minimum wage.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The purchasing power of the $1.60 minimum wage in 1968 was about $11.00 in today's dollars. Since then, the purchasing power of minimum wage has dropped more than 25% while productivity has gone up more than 150%

Technology made productivity go up, Illegals and a global economy made wages go down.


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Employers are getting much more output from employees for much less money. Illegals and global economy have nothing to do with minimum wage.

Say what?

It's employers spending capital on technology that gets more productivity out of them


What do you think people still use a typewriter now?


So in your world 60 million more people in the US since 1980 doesn't dilute the wages,,, .how is that not possible?


A global economy of cheap labor doesn't lower wages in the US?


How fucking stupid are you?


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[BULLDOG]

The purchasing power of the $1.60 minimum wage in 1968 was about $11.00 in today's dollars. Since then, the purchasing power of minimum wage has dropped more than 25% while productivity has gone up more than 150%

Technology made productivity go up, Illegals and a global economy made wages go down.


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Employers are getting much more output from employees for much less money. Illegals and global economy have nothing to do with minimum wage.

Say what?

It's employers spending capital on technology that gets more productivity out of them


What do you think people still use a typewriter now?


So in your world 60 million more people in the US since 1980 doesn't dilute the wages,,, .how is that not possible?


A global economy of cheap labor doesn't lower wages in the US?


How fucking stupid are you?


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Minimum wage not keeping up with inflation is a major source of real wage decrease.

 

[Wyatt earp]

The purchasing power of the $1.60 minimum wage in 1968 was about $11.00 in today's dollars. Since then, the purchasing power of minimum wage has dropped more than 25% while productivity has gone up more than 150%

Technology made productivity go up, Illegals and a global economy made wages go down.


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Employers are getting much more output from employees for much less money. Illegals and global economy have nothing to do with minimum wage.

Say what?

It's employers spending capital on technology that gets more productivity out of them


What do you think people still use a typewriter now?


So in your world 60 million more people in the US since 1980 doesn't dilute the wages,,, .how is that not possible?


A global economy of cheap labor doesn't lower wages in the US?


How fucking stupid are you?


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Minimum wage not keeping up with inflation is a major source of real wage decrease.

Bullshit minimum wage is always zero .


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[BULLDOG]

The purchasing power of the $1.60 minimum wage in 1968 was about $11.00 in today's dollars. Since then, the purchasing power of minimum wage has dropped more than 25% while productivity has gone up more than 150%

Technology made productivity go up, Illegals and a global economy made wages go down.


.

Employers are getting much more output from employees for much less money. Illegals and global economy have nothing to do with minimum wage.

Say what?

It's employers spending capital on technology that gets more productivity out of them


What do you think people still use a typewriter now?


So in your world 60 million more people in the US since 1980 doesn't dilute the wages,,, .how is that not possible?


A global economy of cheap labor doesn't lower wages in the US?


How fucking stupid are you?


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Minimum wage not keeping up with inflation is a major source of real wage decrease.

Bullshit minimum wage is always zero .


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Only in the mind of crazy right wingers.

 

[Wyatt earp]

Technology made productivity go up, Illegals and a global economy made wages go down.


.

Employers are getting much more output from employees for much less money. Illegals and global economy have nothing to do with minimum wage.

Say what?

It's employers spending capital on technology that gets more productivity out of them


What do you think people still use a typewriter now?


So in your world 60 million more people in the US since 1980 doesn't dilute the wages,,, .how is that not possible?


A global economy of cheap labor doesn't lower wages in the US?


How fucking stupid are you?


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Minimum wage not keeping up with inflation is a major source of real wage decrease.

Bullshit minimum wage is always zero .


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Only in the mind of crazy right wingers.

I ran a lemonade stand as a kid did you?


Minimum wage is always zero .unless your a Mexican who works under the table .


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[danielpalos]

I read that currently 2.7% of US workers are paid minimum wage. Elsewhere I read that 42% of US workers make $15/hr or less. So, if we raised minimum wage to $15/hr, we'd have 42% of US workers working for minimum wage. Which left me wonder what reformers see as the ideal percentage.

The one that covers the cost of social services.

 

[Dragonlady]

I read that currently 2.7% of US workers are paid minimum wage. Elsewhere I read that 42% of US workers make $15/hr or less. So, if we raised minimum wage to $15/hr, we'd have 42% of US workers working for minimum wage. Which left me wonder what reformers see as the ideal percentage.

That percentage would drastically decrease from 42% back down to single digits.

What the Uninformed Voter doesn't understand is you can't increase wages on just one group of people. If you try to do that, it creates a domino effect.

The $8.00 an hour worker may be making $15.00 after a law is passed, but the $15.00 worker will be making $22.00 or more after it's passed.

It wouldn't help the poor and the new minimum wage would only be a livable wage for about a year or so until everybody else catches up. The only real change would be more investments in automation by companies, and more jobs leaving the US.

Right wingers SAY that jobs will be lost, but they aren't. Jobs increase when the minimum wages go up because there's so much pent up demand for goods and services.

Yes, prices will go up, but not as much as you're suggesting. It increases the cost of producing a burger by 10 cents to raise the burger flipper's wages by $1, so the increases in wages have a tremendous impact on the employees, and yes, wages all along the line will go up, because ALL OF THESE WORKERS NEED RAISES TOO.

The wages of all working people need to go up. Companies have managed increase every cost in their processes EXCEPT wages. Rents, property costs, equipment, insurance and materials have all gone up, and businesses survived. Wages COULD have gone up but the bosses didn't have to raise the wages so they didn't. It's time for some catch up for workers.

 

[Redfish]

The $8.00 an hour worker may be making $15.00 after a law is passed, but the $15.00 worker will be making $22.00 or more after it's passed.

So, everyone would make more money! That's a good thing, right?

econ 101. if everyone makes more, everything costs more, so nothing is gained.

 

[Ray From Cleveland]

I read that currently 2.7% of US workers are paid minimum wage. Elsewhere I read that 42% of US workers make $15/hr or less. So, if we raised minimum wage to $15/hr, we'd have 42% of US workers working for minimum wage. Which left me wonder what reformers see as the ideal percentage.

That percentage would drastically decrease from 42% back down to single digits.

What the Uninformed Voter doesn't understand is you can't increase wages on just one group of people. If you try to do that, it creates a domino effect.

The $8.00 an hour worker may be making $15.00 after a law is passed, but the $15.00 worker will be making $22.00 or more after it's passed.

It wouldn't help the poor and the new minimum wage would only be a livable wage for about a year or so until everybody else catches up. The only real change would be more investments in automation by companies, and more jobs leaving the US.

Right wingers SAY that jobs will be lost, but they aren't. Jobs increase when the minimum wages go up because there's so much pent up demand for goods and services.

Yes, prices will go up, but not as much as you're suggesting. It increases the cost of producing a burger by 10 cents to raise the burger flipper's wages by $1, so the increases in wages have a tremendous impact on the employees, and yes, wages all along the line will go up, because ALL OF THESE WORKERS NEED RAISES TOO.

The wages of all working people need to go up. Companies have managed increase every cost in their processes EXCEPT wages. Rents, property costs, equipment, insurance and materials have all gone up, and businesses survived. Wages COULD have gone up but the bosses didn't have to raise the wages so they didn't. It's time for some catch up for workers.

There is no "pent up" demand for goods and services. Where did you dream that up from? Goods and services have always been there and plenty of them. If they are not, people turn to the internet which is yet another threat to brick and mortar establishments.

Yes, raising minimum wage by one dollar will have little impact on pricing for places like McDonald's. That's because McDonald's sells 600 big macs a day, 2,000 french fries a day, 2,500 beverages a day, 800 breakfast sandwiches a day. However Earls Hardware store doesn't sell 400 hammers a day or 300 boxes of screws a day. Earl's Hardware will take a much harder hit than McDonald's.

The OP's scenario is $15.00 minimum wage. So think of how much higher prices will be. The reason people go to Walmart is because they can walk out of Walmart with a shopping cart of supplies for about a hundred bucks. That's in comparison to walking out of a store that sells American goods with only a half a cart for a hundred bucks.

People will buy less products because the prices would be much higher. I don't see that as a good thing. All you really did was increase the cost of living.

 

[Redfish]

I read that currently 2.7% of US workers are paid minimum wage. Elsewhere I read that 42% of US workers make $15/hr or less. So, if we raised minimum wage to $15/hr, we'd have 42% of US workers working for minimum wage. Which left me wonder what reformers see as the ideal percentage.

That percentage would drastically decrease from 42% back down to single digits.

What the Uninformed Voter doesn't understand is you can't increase wages on just one group of people. If you try to do that, it creates a domino effect.

The $8.00 an hour worker may be making $15.00 after a law is passed, but the $15.00 worker will be making $22.00 or more after it's passed.

It wouldn't help the poor and the new minimum wage would only be a livable wage for about a year or so until everybody else catches up. The only real change would be more investments in automation by companies, and more jobs leaving the US.

Right wingers SAY that jobs will be lost, but they aren't. Jobs increase when the minimum wages go up because there's so much pent up demand for goods and services.

Yes, prices will go up, but not as much as you're suggesting. It increases the cost of producing a burger by 10 cents to raise the burger flipper's wages by $1, so the increases in wages have a tremendous impact on the employees, and yes, wages all along the line will go up, because ALL OF THESE WORKERS NEED RAISES TOO.

The wages of all working people need to go up. Companies have managed increase every cost in their processes EXCEPT wages. Rents, property costs, equipment, insurance and materials have all gone up, and businesses survived. Wages COULD have gone up but the bosses didn't have to raise the wages so they didn't. It's time for some catch up for workers.

I strongly suggest that you take a econ 101 class at your local junior college. Labor is a major part of the cost of everything we buy, if wages go up the price of everything we buy has to go up by the same %, otherwise the company goes out of business because the cost of production exceeds the revenue from sales. When everything goes up we have inflation where each dollar is now worth less. Nothing is gained by anyone, you just have more dollars going through your hands, in and out.

 

[dblack]

Right wingers SAY that jobs will be lost, but they aren't. Jobs increase when the minimum wages go up because there's so much pent up demand for goods and services.

Yes, prices will go up, but not as much as you're suggesting. It increases the cost of producing a burger by 10 cents to raise the burger flipper's wages by $1, so the increases in wages have a tremendous impact on the employees, and yes, wages all along the line will go up, because ALL OF THESE WORKERS NEED RAISES TOO.

So, everyone should get a raise? Couldn't we achieve the same effect by passing a law declaring that one dollar now equals ten dollars? Then we'll all be making ten times as much, right?

 

[Redfish]

IDK, just doesn't sound good all around.....when everything just keeps going up, with no end in site....it can't be good for the people or the country.

Except when it comes to tax cuts for the rich of course... that's always a good thing...

the 2018 tax cuts cut the tax rate for everyone that pays taxes, not just the rich. Stop lying about this.