Michael Flynn Withdraws Guilty Plea – Cites DOJ “bad faith, vindictiveness & breach of plea agreemen

[ColonelAngus]

Now you are being obtuse

mueller had unlimited funds to pursue flynn

but flynn’s defense ended when is money ran out

It’s not Mueller’s fault that Flynn committed a crime. Flynn could have made his defense really cheap by just admitting it. It’s also a lot easier to afford lawyers when you have a salary, no? Wonder who’s paying his nutter lawyers now.

What was Flynn’s lie? Specifically.

That he spoke to the Russian ambassador about sanctions being applied by the Obama administration.

I thought it was perjury.

Lying to FBI. I don’t think it’s technically perjury but similar concept.

What was his specific lie?

Did he say he had 2 eggs for breakfast, but he really had 3?

 

[Mac-7]

Mueller didn’t either. Mueller never took a cent from Flynn.

Now you are being obtuse

mueller had unlimited funds to pursue flynn

but flynn’s defense ended when is money ran out

It’s not Mueller’s fault that Flynn committed a crime. Flynn could have made his defense really cheap by just admitting it. It’s also a lot easier to afford lawyers when you have a salary, no? Wonder who’s paying his nutter lawyers now.

What was Flynn’s lie? Specifically.

That he spoke to the Russian ambassador about sanctions being applied by the Obama administration.

I thought it was perjury.

No

flynn was not under oath

 

[Mac-7]

Now you are being obtuse

mueller had unlimited funds to pursue flynn

but flynn’s defense ended when is money ran out

It’s not Mueller’s fault that Flynn committed a crime. Flynn could have made his defense really cheap by just admitting it. It’s also a lot easier to afford lawyers when you have a salary, no? Wonder who’s paying his nutter lawyers now.

What was Flynn’s lie? Specifically.

That he spoke to the Russian ambassador about sanctions being applied by the Obama administration.

As a member of the trump transition team

Correct. Although it’s highly unusual as it breaks the “one president at a time” rule. It violates a law no one really cares about that’s never been prosecuted and may not be constitutional.

But he still lied about it.

Not at all

trump should not be expected to take office cold turkey with no prior preparation

 

[EvilCat Breath]

He already admitted to it. Why did Trump fire Flynn?

Flynn lied to Pence.

Thats not a crime

That's why he was fired and not arrested.

Flynn is a victim of the Deep State attempt to overthrow a duly elected president

Flynn lied to Trump. Are you claiming he didn’t lie to the FBI?

Flynn lied to the vice president. He got fired. The FBI phonied up their own case. Flynn's "crime" was acting as an unregistered lobbyist for a foreign government, Turkey. This crime is repeated dozens of times. Normally the penalty is to register. But the FBI dragged Flynn off to some back room where he was told he wasn't under any suspicion. He didn't need a lawyer and couldn't have one. He was presented with a list of bogus garbage. He was told that if he refused to plead guilty his son would immediately be arrested. That's how corrupt the FBI has become. Compounding their corruption the democrat controlled FBI delayed sentencing knowing that Flynn was going to use the appearance to withdraw his plea. Vomiting up another gutfull of democrat maggots the FBI offers a face saving sentence of six months, out in three. So much for the crime of the century.

This ranks right up there with George Papadopoulos getting ten days and that Belgian conspirator getting 30 days. That's what democrats do. Paint headlines, give out a few days and claim victory.

Flynn should force this to trial. He will win.

 

[Mac-7]

It’s not Mueller’s fault that Flynn committed a crime. Flynn could have made his defense really cheap by just admitting it. It’s also a lot easier to afford lawyers when you have a salary, no? Wonder who’s paying his nutter lawyers now.

What was Flynn’s lie? Specifically.

That he spoke to the Russian ambassador about sanctions being applied by the Obama administration.

I thought it was perjury.

Lying to FBI. I don’t think it’s technically perjury but similar concept.

What was his specific lie?

Did he say he had 2 eggs for breakfast, but he really had 3?

Thats pretty close to the fact

 

[Mac-7]

Flynn lied to Pence.

Thats not a crime

That's why he was fired and not arrested.

Flynn is a victim of the Deep State attempt to overthrow a duly elected president

Flynn lied to Trump. Are you claiming he didn’t lie to the FBI?

Flynn lied to the vice president. He got fired. The FBI phonied up their own case. Flynn's "crime" was acting as an unregistered lobbyist for a foreign government, Turkey. This crime is repeated dozens of times. Normally the penalty is to register. But the FBI dragged Flynn off to some back room where he was told he wasn't under any suspicion. He didn't need a lawyer and couldn't have one. He was presented with a list of bogus garbage. He was told that if he refused to plead guilty his son would immediately be arrested. That's how corrupt the FBI has become. Compounding their corruption the democrat controlled FBI delayed sentencing knowing that Flynn was going to use the appearance to withdraw his plea. Vomiting up another gutfull of democrat maggots the FBI offers a face saving sentence of six months, out in three. So much for the crime of the century.

This ranks right up there with George Papadopoulos getting ten days and that Belgian conspirator getting 30 days. That's what democrats do. Paint headlines, give out a few days and claim victory.

Flynn should force this to trial. He will win.

Flynn was not charged with acting as an unregistered agent for turkey

mueller was squeezing him over his association with trump

 

[ColonelAngus]

They must know his lie. They linked the indictment.


Can ANYONE LIST FLYNN’S SPECIFIC LIE?

Why is this so difficult?

 

[DGS49]

So let's summarize this to get past the legal bullshit.

Obama imposes sanctions on Russia because they are, in effect, fucking with our elections.

Flynn is the designated National Security Advisor, but of course, still not in office as Trump has not been inaugurated yet.

Flynn calls his Russian counterpart and talks about the Obama-sanctions. (Which is LEGAL and arguably appropriate).

The FBI questions Flynn about his communications with his Russian counterpart, leading him to believe that the conversation was illegal and could subject him to prison time. In short, they lied to him.

He falsely denied talking to the Russian about the Obama sanctions. This lying WAS a crime, but it was clearly a matter of entrapment.

Then Flynn told Mike Pence that he hadn't discussed the sanctions with the Russian (to be consistent with what he told the FBI), and Pence relayed that to Trump.

Mike Pence went public with the absolute denial that Flynn hadn't discussed the sanctions with his Russian counterpart.

It comes out that Flynn did talk to his counterpart about the sanctions, and lied to the FBI and to Pence.

And that's about it.

SO AT THE ROOT OF ALL THIS is a conversation that was entirely legal and appropriate, but Flynn was led to believe was a FELONY.

The ONLY REASON why Trump hasn't pardoned Flynn is because Flynn lied to Mike Pence, and thus to Trump. And Trump won't forgive that breach of loyalty.

And his career, reputation, and finances are in tatters, and he could go to jail (where he will be welcomed as a hero). As the late Dick Nixon would have cautioned him, "It's the cover-up that will bite you in the ass."

 

[ColonelAngus]

Where did Colfax go?

Anyone who wants Flynn to go to prison....just type what his lie was.

It’s not that difficult.

 

[ColonelAngus]

So let's summarize this to get past the legal bullshit.

Obama imposes sanctions on Russia because they are, in effect, fucking with our elections.

Flynn is the designated National Security Advisor, but of course, still not in office as Trump has not been inaugurated yet.

Flynn calls his Russian counterpart and talks about the Obama-sanctions. (Which is LEGAL and arguably appropriate).

The FBI questions Flynn about his communications with his Russian counterpart, leading him to believe that the conversation was illegal and could subject him to prison time. In short, they lied to him.

He falsely denied talking to the Russian about the Obama sanctions. This lying WAS a crime, but it was clearly a matter of entrapment.

Then Flynn told Mike Pence that he hadn't discussed the sanctions with the Russian (to be consistent with what he told the FBI), and Pence relayed that to Trump.

Mike Pence went public with the absolute denial that Flynn hadn't discussed the sanctions with his Russian counterpart.

It comes out that Flynn did talk to his counterpart about the sanctions, and lied to the FBI and to Pence.

And that's about it.

SO AT THE ROOT OF ALL THIS is a conversation that was entirely legal and appropriate, but Flynn was led to believe was a FELONY.

The ONLY REASON why Trump hasn't pardoned Flynn is because Flynn lied to Mike Pence, and thus to Trump. And Trump won't forgive that breach of loyalty.

And his career, reputation, and finances are in tatters, and he could go to jail (where he will be welcomed as a hero). As the late Dick Nixon would have cautioned him, "It's the cover-up that will bite you in the ass."

Everything you wrote has nothing to do with what he pled guilty to.

List his specific lie.

 

[ColonelAngus]

United States of America v. Michael Cohen | Making False Statements | Government Of The United States

Here is the link. Read it and write his lie. Anyone.

 

[MisterBeale]

Where did Colfax go?

Anyone who wants Flynn to go to prison....just type what his lie was.

It’s not that difficult.

Flynn to the FBI. . . "uh. . . no, I didn't talk to my Russia counterpart."

 

[MisterBeale]

ColonelAngus If you want the verbatim transcript of what Flynn said to the FBI agents? That is probably under wraps and you would probably need a FOIA to get.

 

[ColonelAngus]

ColonelAngus If you want the verbatim transcript of what Flynn said to the FBI agents? That is probably under wraps and you would probably need a FOIA to get.

It’s right there in the posted indictment. They say what his lie is.

I am just asking ANYONE to read the indictment and post the lie.

 

[ColonelAngus]

Good grief, you lefties talk about Flynn like he is Hitler and Stalin rolled into one,yet you can’t read the indictment and post his lie?

 

[colfax_m]

On December 1, 2017, Flynn appeared in federal court to formalize a deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller to plead guilty to a felony count of "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements"to the FBI.[20] He confirmed his intention to cooperate with the Special Counsel's investigation.

Do we know his specific lie(s)?

Yes. Read the indictment. It lays it out in precise detail and is very damning.
Michael Flynn indictment: Read the charges filed against Flynn

I am asking you to lay it out. You’ve obviously read it. Quote his lie.

I have already. He claimed he didn’t speak to the Russian ambassador about Obama administration applying sanctions in December 2016.

 

[j-mac]

On December 1, 2017, Flynn appeared in federal court to formalize a deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller to plead guilty to a felony count of "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements"to the FBI.[20] He confirmed his intention to cooperate with the Special Counsel's investigation.

Do we know his specific lie(s)?

Yes. Read the indictment. It lays it out in precise detail and is very damning.
Michael Flynn indictment: Read the charges filed against Flynn

I am asking you to lay it out. You’ve obviously read it. Quote his lie.

I have already. He claimed he didn’t speak to the Russian ambassador about Obama administration applying sanctions in December 2016.

And so what if he did? Wasn't he the incoming NSA?

 

[ColonelAngus]

On December 1, 2017, Flynn appeared in federal court to formalize a deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller to plead guilty to a felony count of "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements"to the FBI.[20] He confirmed his intention to cooperate with the Special Counsel's investigation.

Do we know his specific lie(s)?

Yes. Read the indictment. It lays it out in precise detail and is very damning.
Michael Flynn indictment: Read the charges filed against Flynn

I am asking you to lay it out. You’ve obviously read it. Quote his lie.

I have already. He claimed he didn’t speak to the Russian ambassador about Obama administration applying sanctions in December 2016.

That is not what the indictment is.

But at least you tried.

He said January and not June. That was the lie. His dates were wrong.

It’s in the indictment and that’s what he pled to. Wrong J month.

 

[j-mac]

On December 1, 2017, Flynn appeared in federal court to formalize a deal with Special Counsel Robert Mueller to plead guilty to a felony count of "willfully and knowingly" making "false, fictitious and fraudulent statements"to the FBI.[20] He confirmed his intention to cooperate with the Special Counsel's investigation.

Do we know his specific lie(s)?

Yes. Read the indictment. It lays it out in precise detail and is very damning.
Michael Flynn indictment: Read the charges filed against Flynn

I am asking you to lay it out. You’ve obviously read it. Quote his lie.

I have already. He claimed he didn’t speak to the Russian ambassador about Obama administration applying sanctions in December 2016.

That is not what the indictment is.

But at least you tried.

He said January and not June. That was the lie. His dates were wrong.

It’s in the indictment and that’s what he pled to. Wrong J month.

OMG! Shoot him for treason!

 

[colfax_m]

It’s not Mueller’s fault that Flynn committed a crime. Flynn could have made his defense really cheap by just admitting it. It’s also a lot easier to afford lawyers when you have a salary, no? Wonder who’s paying his nutter lawyers now.

What was Flynn’s lie? Specifically.

That he spoke to the Russian ambassador about sanctions being applied by the Obama administration.

As a member of the trump transition team

Correct. Although it’s highly unusual as it breaks the “one president at a time” rule. It violates a law no one really cares about that’s never been prosecuted and may not be constitutional.

But he still lied about it.

Not at all

trump should not be expected to take office cold turkey with no prior preparation

He wasn’t “preparing” he was engaging in policy.