Mexico 'won't pay single cent for Trump's stupid wall'

[sealybobo]

We have open borders now, how can it get any Worse??

We didn't have a problem with open borders until companies started hiring illegals to do jobs Americans would do, year round.

We never minded when they came to pick fruit and left at the end of the summer. It's when they stayed and got jobs at the Marriott and at Tyson Chicken. This started on Reagan's watch.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

And it looks like Clinton was doing his job but GW Bush stopped.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Sorry, Tyson was trafficking coke from Columbia. Stuffing balloons of it up chickens asses. Clinton was lugging suitcases full of drug money into the white house. Obama opened the borders to help drug cartels. He even gave them military weapons.

Do you have anything as good as this to back all that up?

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Because Clinton was in charge in 1999. That means the Federal Government was doing its job but then after Bush got in it stopped.

We told you you fucking liars that the GOP were purposely flooding the market with workers in order to drive down wages.

The article I posted was from 2006. You were NOT anti illegal immigration back then. Don't think we are going to forget. Not with the fucking internet to remind us what intellectually dishonest stupid pricks you all are.



And by the way John McCain you fucking idiot Republican. No one was complaining about the fruit picking Mexicans. We were complaining about all the illegals that work for Trump's construction companies. Oh wait, excuse me, he subcontracted so they weren't technically Trump's employees. We all know how guys like Trump get away with doing what they do.

But now you all believe Trump doesn't like illegals? What a hoot!!!

The Dems have been flooding the labor market with cheap Third World labor since 1965.

Even if Dems were "flooding the market with cheap labor since 65", were we importing them legally? Because we probably do need more workers. We've always imported immigrants but we do it legally. That way they are paying their taxes and so are their employers.

The companies and business owners hiring illegals are mostly Republicans. At least that's how they vote. Please don't try to suggest the business owners that hire illegals are Democrats.

Didn't Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid take control of the Senate and House in 2006? Bush didn't have Congress looking the other way anymore on his shady behavior so looks like he started doing his job in 2006.

Feds Raid 6 Swift and Company Meatpacking Plants in Apparent Illegal Immigration Search | Fox News

Federal agents raided six Swift & Co. processing plants in six states on Tuesday in search of illegal immigrants who stole the identities of lawful U.S. residents and used their Social Security numbers to get jobs at the beef and pork company.
Agents from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency executed search warrants at Swift's processing facilities in Greeley, Colo.; Grand Island, Neb.; Cactus, Texas; Hyrum, Utah; Marshalltown, Iowa; and Worthington, Minn.
ICE officials didn't give the total number of people arrested but said workers were being apprehended on administrative immigration violations and in some cases, existing criminal arrest warrants. The warrants allow federal agents to arrest anyone at the plant who is in the United States illegally.
ICE said criminal charges of aggravated identity theft and other violations were possible. No charges have been filed against the company.

 

[the_human_being]

SHOCK: Ford Makes Massive Announcement... Trump Was Right About Everything

 

[sealybobo]

We have open borders now, how can it get any Worse??

We didn't have a problem with open borders until companies started hiring illegals to do jobs Americans would do, year round.

We never minded when they came to pick fruit and left at the end of the summer. It's when they stayed and got jobs at the Marriott and at Tyson Chicken. This started on Reagan's watch.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

And it looks like Clinton was doing his job but GW Bush stopped.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

So, you prepared to fix it?

Yes, lets start going after illegal employers again. Then you'll see illegals self deport.

Trump's calling for nationwide e-verify, though he hasn't mentioned legal penalties for not complying.

What's Bernie's policy?

And yes, I agree with you.

You know the sad truth is that we probably need them?
Bernie's to establish some pathway to legal residency or citizenship for the 11 million undocumented workers living in the United States

Trumps plan to deport 11 million people is unrealistic. Do you think that would hurt the economy if that many workers just disappeared? We don't have enough workers to do all those low skilled and low paying jobs.

But things will change in the next decade, when the Boomers will retire and start collecting benefits. By 2016, so many people will be drawing Social Security that the money needed to cover benefits will be more than what we Gen-X/Y workers will be paying in taxes.

 

[Correll]

We have open borders now, how can it get any Worse??

We didn't have a problem with open borders until companies started hiring illegals to do jobs Americans would do, year round.

We never minded when they came to pick fruit and left at the end of the summer. It's when they stayed and got jobs at the Marriott and at Tyson Chicken. This started on Reagan's watch.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

And it looks like Clinton was doing his job but GW Bush stopped.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Sorry, Tyson was trafficking coke from Columbia. Stuffing balloons of it up chickens asses. Clinton was lugging suitcases full of drug money into the white house. Obama opened the borders to help drug cartels. He even gave them military weapons.

Do you have anything as good as this to back all that up?

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Because Clinton was in charge in 1999. That means the Federal Government was doing its job but then after Bush got in it stopped.

We told you you fucking liars that the GOP were purposely flooding the market with workers in order to drive down wages.

The article I posted was from 2006. You were NOT anti illegal immigration back then. Don't think we are going to forget. Not with the fucking internet to remind us what intellectually dishonest stupid pricks you all are.



And by the way John McCain you fucking idiot Republican. No one was complaining about the fruit picking Mexicans. We were complaining about all the illegals that work for Trump's construction companies. Oh wait, excuse me, he subcontracted so they weren't technically Trump's employees. We all know how guys like Trump get away with doing what they do.

But now you all believe Trump doesn't like illegals? What a hoot!!!

The Dems have been flooding the labor market with cheap Third World labor since 1965.

Even if Dems were "flooding the market with cheap labor since 65", were we importing them legally? Because we probably do need more workers. We've always imported immigrants but we do it legally. That way they are paying their taxes and so are their employers.

The companies and business owners hiring illegals are mostly Republicans. At least that's how they vote. Please don't try to suggest the business owners that hire illegals are Democrats.

.

Yes, I cited a law. The results of that law are legal.

They still have been adding a million Third World workers to the labor pool every year since 1965.

We don't need more workers. We need less, so that employers have to raise wages to get people to work for them.

The wealthy "business owners" are generally pretty evenly split politically, perhaps with a small tilt towards Republicans.

 

[mudwhistle]

We have open borders now, how can it get any Worse??

We didn't have a problem with open borders until companies started hiring illegals to do jobs Americans would do, year round.

We never minded when they came to pick fruit and left at the end of the summer. It's when they stayed and got jobs at the Marriott and at Tyson Chicken. This started on Reagan's watch.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

And it looks like Clinton was doing his job but GW Bush stopped.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Sorry, Tyson was trafficking coke from Columbia. Stuffing balloons of it up chickens asses. Clinton was lugging suitcases full of drug money into the white house. Obama opened the borders to help drug cartels. He even gave them military weapons.

Do you have anything as good as this to back all that up?

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Because Clinton was in charge in 1999. That means the Federal Government was doing its job but then after Bush got in it stopped.

We told you you fucking liars that the GOP were purposely flooding the market with workers in order to drive down wages.

The article I posted was from 2006. You were NOT anti illegal immigration back then. Don't think we are going to forget. Not with the fucking internet to remind us what intellectually dishonest stupid pricks you all are.



And by the way John McCain you fucking idiot Republican. No one was complaining about the fruit picking Mexicans. We were complaining about all the illegals that work for Trump's construction companies. Oh wait, excuse me, he subcontracted so they weren't technically Trump's employees. We all know how guys like Trump get away with doing what they do.

But now you all believe Trump doesn't like illegals? What a hoot!!!

The Dems have been flooding the labor market with cheap Third World labor since 1965.

Even if Dems were "flooding the market with cheap labor since 65", were we importing them legally? Because we probably do need more workers. We've always imported immigrants but we do it legally. That way they are paying their taxes and so are their employers.

The companies and business owners hiring illegals are mostly Republicans. At least that's how they vote. Please don't try to suggest the business owners that hire illegals are Democrats.

Didn't Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid take control of the Senate and House in 2006? Bush didn't have Congress looking the other way anymore on his shady behavior so looks like he started doing his job in 2006.

Feds Raid 6 Swift and Company Meatpacking Plants in Apparent Illegal Immigration Search | Fox News

Federal agents raided six Swift & Co. processing plants in six states on Tuesday in search of illegal immigrants who stole the identities of lawful U.S. residents and used their Social Security numbers to get jobs at the beef and pork company.
Agents from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency executed search warrants at Swift's processing facilities in Greeley, Colo.; Grand Island, Neb.; Cactus, Texas; Hyrum, Utah; Marshalltown, Iowa; and Worthington, Minn.
ICE officials didn't give the total number of people arrested but said workers were being apprehended on administrative immigration violations and in some cases, existing criminal arrest warrants. The warrants allow federal agents to arrest anyone at the plant who is in the United States illegally.
ICE said criminal charges of aggravated identity theft and other violations were possible. No charges have been filed against the company.

You've been drinking the Kool-aid way too long.

Democrats used illegals to completely change the demographics in California, changing it from a conservative state in the 60s to a liberal welfare state it is today. Greedy Republicans have been getting kickbacks for decades. However, just because a Republican took a bribe doesn't mean it was cool beans.....and the Dems get a total pass on this.

Normal reactions from liberals is "Well, rich businesses wanted them here". So Democrats drive down wages in California and who do you think suffers the most? The poor and strangely, black voters. 50% unemployment. Many of them moved out of the state. Why would they do such a thing?

Could it be because they don't care about the poor?

The truth is, Democrats are good at causing a mess and then blaming it all on Republicans.

 

[Correll]

We have open borders now, how can it get any Worse??

We didn't have a problem with open borders until companies started hiring illegals to do jobs Americans would do, year round.

We never minded when they came to pick fruit and left at the end of the summer. It's when they stayed and got jobs at the Marriott and at Tyson Chicken. This started on Reagan's watch.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

And it looks like Clinton was doing his job but GW Bush stopped.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

So, you prepared to fix it?

Yes, lets start going after illegal employers again. Then you'll see illegals self deport.

Trump's calling for nationwide e-verify, though he hasn't mentioned legal penalties for not complying.

What's Bernie's policy?

And yes, I agree with you.

You know the sad truth is that we probably need them?
Bernie's to establish some pathway to legal residency or citizenship for the 11 million undocumented workers living in the United States

Trumps plan to deport 11 million people is unrealistic. Do you think that would hurt the economy if that many workers just disappeared? We don't have enough workers to do all those low skilled and low paying jobs.

But things will change in the next decade, when the Boomers will retire and start collecting benefits. By 2016, so many people will be drawing Social Security that the money needed to cover benefits will be more than what we Gen-X/Y workers will be paying in taxes.

If employers have trouble finding people to fill those jobs, then they will have to try harder.

Perhaps raise wages. Perhaps work with possible workers who need flexible schedules because of child care. Perhaps take a chance with a worker who doesn't have a 4 year degree and might need more training. ect. ect. ect.


I LIKE the idea of moving some of the Balance of Power towards the workers and away from often clueless and lazy upper management.

 

[Correll]

We didn't have a problem with open borders until companies started hiring illegals to do jobs Americans would do, year round.

We never minded when they came to pick fruit and left at the end of the summer. It's when they stayed and got jobs at the Marriott and at Tyson Chicken. This started on Reagan's watch.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

And it looks like Clinton was doing his job but GW Bush stopped.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Sorry, Tyson was trafficking coke from Columbia. Stuffing balloons of it up chickens asses. Clinton was lugging suitcases full of drug money into the white house. Obama opened the borders to help drug cartels. He even gave them military weapons.

Do you have anything as good as this to back all that up?

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Because Clinton was in charge in 1999. That means the Federal Government was doing its job but then after Bush got in it stopped.

We told you you fucking liars that the GOP were purposely flooding the market with workers in order to drive down wages.

The article I posted was from 2006. You were NOT anti illegal immigration back then. Don't think we are going to forget. Not with the fucking internet to remind us what intellectually dishonest stupid pricks you all are.



And by the way John McCain you fucking idiot Republican. No one was complaining about the fruit picking Mexicans. We were complaining about all the illegals that work for Trump's construction companies. Oh wait, excuse me, he subcontracted so they weren't technically Trump's employees. We all know how guys like Trump get away with doing what they do.

But now you all believe Trump doesn't like illegals? What a hoot!!!

The Dems have been flooding the labor market with cheap Third World labor since 1965.

Even if Dems were "flooding the market with cheap labor since 65", were we importing them legally? Because we probably do need more workers. We've always imported immigrants but we do it legally. That way they are paying their taxes and so are their employers.

The companies and business owners hiring illegals are mostly Republicans. At least that's how they vote. Please don't try to suggest the business owners that hire illegals are Democrats.

Didn't Nancy Pelosi and Harry Reid take control of the Senate and House in 2006? Bush didn't have Congress looking the other way anymore on his shady behavior so looks like he started doing his job in 2006.

Feds Raid 6 Swift and Company Meatpacking Plants in Apparent Illegal Immigration Search | Fox News

Federal agents raided six Swift & Co. processing plants in six states on Tuesday in search of illegal immigrants who stole the identities of lawful U.S. residents and used their Social Security numbers to get jobs at the beef and pork company.
Agents from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement agency executed search warrants at Swift's processing facilities in Greeley, Colo.; Grand Island, Neb.; Cactus, Texas; Hyrum, Utah; Marshalltown, Iowa; and Worthington, Minn.
ICE officials didn't give the total number of people arrested but said workers were being apprehended on administrative immigration violations and in some cases, existing criminal arrest warrants. The warrants allow federal agents to arrest anyone at the plant who is in the United States illegally.
ICE said criminal charges of aggravated identity theft and other violations were possible. No charges have been filed against the company.

You've been drinking the Kool-aid way too long.

Democrats used illegals to completely change the demographics in California, changing it from a conservative state in the 60s to a liberal welfare state it is today. Greedy Republicans have been getting kickbacks for decades. However, just because a Republican took a bribe doesn't mean it was cool beans.....and the Dems get a total pass on this.

Normal reactions from liberals is "Well, rich businesses wanted them here". So Democrats drive down wages in California and who do you think suffers the most? The poor and strangely, black voters. 50% unemployment. Many of them moved out of the state. Why would they do such a thing?

Could it be because they don't care about the poor?

The truth is, Democrats are good at causing a mess and then blaming it all on Republicans.

Legal immigrants are as much responsible for all of that as illegal.

 

[sealybobo]

Mexico 'won't pay single cent for Trump's stupid wall'

Illegals murder, rape, rob, and torture Americans. They steal billions of dollars from us. They break our laws. And you think a border wall is "stupid"? Who's side are you on?

A wall on the border is very fucking stupid and unnecessary but Americans aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

Why? Please explain so we can mock you.

1. They can come in as tourists and just not leave. Making the wall utterly useless.
2. They dig tunnels.
3. At lot cheaper to just get illegal American companies to stop hiring them. Do you think they would hire illegals if it meant losing your business and going to jail?

It's like you want to punish crackheads but not the dealers.

We didn't need a fence before Reagan started turning a blind eye to illegal employers

 

[sealybobo]

We didn't have a problem with open borders until companies started hiring illegals to do jobs Americans would do, year round.

We never minded when they came to pick fruit and left at the end of the summer. It's when they stayed and got jobs at the Marriott and at Tyson Chicken. This started on Reagan's watch.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

And it looks like Clinton was doing his job but GW Bush stopped.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Sorry, Tyson was trafficking coke from Columbia. Stuffing balloons of it up chickens asses. Clinton was lugging suitcases full of drug money into the white house. Obama opened the borders to help drug cartels. He even gave them military weapons.

Do you have anything as good as this to back all that up?

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Because Clinton was in charge in 1999. That means the Federal Government was doing its job but then after Bush got in it stopped.

We told you you fucking liars that the GOP were purposely flooding the market with workers in order to drive down wages.

The article I posted was from 2006. You were NOT anti illegal immigration back then. Don't think we are going to forget. Not with the fucking internet to remind us what intellectually dishonest stupid pricks you all are.



And by the way John McCain you fucking idiot Republican. No one was complaining about the fruit picking Mexicans. We were complaining about all the illegals that work for Trump's construction companies. Oh wait, excuse me, he subcontracted so they weren't technically Trump's employees. We all know how guys like Trump get away with doing what they do.

But now you all believe Trump doesn't like illegals? What a hoot!!!

The Dems have been flooding the labor market with cheap Third World labor since 1965.

How so? Usually a link would follow a stupid comment like that.

1965 Immigration Act. Do you need a link?

It gave US the nonsense we have now. Ted Fucking Kennedy promised it would NOT transform our nation.

Immigrants aren't the problem illegal immigrants are. And illegal employers. I blame the illegal employers more.

I'm all for cutting down on immigration but are companies all for that? Do we need workers paying into the system to be able to pay for all the baby boomers who are drawing Social Security? This may be a necessary evil and no one is willing to admit it

 

[Correll]

Mexico 'won't pay single cent for Trump's stupid wall'

Illegals murder, rape, rob, and torture Americans. They steal billions of dollars from us. They break our laws. And you think a border wall is "stupid"? Who's side are you on?

A wall on the border is very fucking stupid and unnecessary but Americans aren't the sharpest tools in the shed.

Why? Please explain so we can mock you.

1. They can come in as tourists and just not leave. Making the wall utterly useless.
2. They dig tunnels.
3. At lot cheaper to just get illegal American companies to stop hiring them. Do you think they would hire illegals if it meant losing your business and going to jail?

It's like you want to punish crackheads but not the dealers.

We didn't need a fence before Reagan started turning a blind eye to illegal employers

A lot of them come here across the land border.

Making that harder is a good idea.

Reducing the chances of employment is obviously a good idea, and one I support, BUT, this is still a First World Nation and they are coming from a Third World Shithole.

It is going to be really hard to make the US less attractive than the Shithole.

 

[sealybobo]

Every country wants to take in immigrants. Either for cheap labor or to be engineers doctors or business owners.

Illegal workers are what really hurts workers and tax payers

 

[Correll]

Sorry, Tyson was trafficking coke from Columbia. Stuffing balloons of it up chickens asses. Clinton was lugging suitcases full of drug money into the white house. Obama opened the borders to help drug cartels. He even gave them military weapons.

Do you have anything as good as this to back all that up?

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Because Clinton was in charge in 1999. That means the Federal Government was doing its job but then after Bush got in it stopped.

We told you you fucking liars that the GOP were purposely flooding the market with workers in order to drive down wages.

The article I posted was from 2006. You were NOT anti illegal immigration back then. Don't think we are going to forget. Not with the fucking internet to remind us what intellectually dishonest stupid pricks you all are.



And by the way John McCain you fucking idiot Republican. No one was complaining about the fruit picking Mexicans. We were complaining about all the illegals that work for Trump's construction companies. Oh wait, excuse me, he subcontracted so they weren't technically Trump's employees. We all know how guys like Trump get away with doing what they do.

But now you all believe Trump doesn't like illegals? What a hoot!!!

The Dems have been flooding the labor market with cheap Third World labor since 1965.

How so? Usually a link would follow a stupid comment like that.

1965 Immigration Act. Do you need a link?

It gave US the nonsense we have now. Ted Fucking Kennedy promised it would NOT transform our nation.

Immigrants aren't the problem illegal immigrants are. And illegal employers. I blame the illegal employers more.

I'm all for cutting down on immigration but our company's all for that? Do we need workers paying into the system to be able to pay for all the baby boomers who are drawing Social Security? This may be a necessary evil and no one is willing to admit it

Legal immigrants are still fresh out of the Third World with their Third WOrld sense of what they are willing to work for, and their shitty Third World CUlture.

They are a bigger part of the problem of wage suppression than the illegals.

No, we don't need shitty Third World WOrkers making shitty wages to pay taxes.

We need real Americans making good wages paying taxes.

Neither is going to make our entitlement system sustainable.

 

[Correll]

Every country wants to take in immigrants. Either for cheap labor or to be engineers doctors or business owners.

Illegal workers are what really hurts workers and tax payers

Japan doesn't. South Korea doesn't.

And so what if it's a popular policy?

Popular isn't the same as Wise.

Abundant cheap labor prevents any rise in wages.

If there weren't so many Third World Engineers coming into the nation, what do you think corporations would do?

Give up?

Or take steps to find US potential engineers and encourage and support them?

 

[sealybobo]

We didn't have a problem with open borders until companies started hiring illegals to do jobs Americans would do, year round.

We never minded when they came to pick fruit and left at the end of the summer. It's when they stayed and got jobs at the Marriott and at Tyson Chicken. This started on Reagan's watch.

Reclaiming the Issues: "It's an Illegal Employer Problem"

And it looks like Clinton was doing his job but GW Bush stopped.

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Sorry, Tyson was trafficking coke from Columbia. Stuffing balloons of it up chickens asses. Clinton was lugging suitcases full of drug money into the white house. Obama opened the borders to help drug cartels. He even gave them military weapons.

Do you have anything as good as this to back all that up?

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Because Clinton was in charge in 1999. That means the Federal Government was doing its job but then after Bush got in it stopped.

We told you you fucking liars that the GOP were purposely flooding the market with workers in order to drive down wages.

The article I posted was from 2006. You were NOT anti illegal immigration back then. Don't think we are going to forget. Not with the fucking internet to remind us what intellectually dishonest stupid pricks you all are.



And by the way John McCain you fucking idiot Republican. No one was complaining about the fruit picking Mexicans. We were complaining about all the illegals that work for Trump's construction companies. Oh wait, excuse me, he subcontracted so they weren't technically Trump's employees. We all know how guys like Trump get away with doing what they do.

But now you all believe Trump doesn't like illegals? What a hoot!!!

The Dems have been flooding the labor market with cheap Third World labor since 1965.

Even if Dems were "flooding the market with cheap labor since 65", were we importing them legally? Because we probably do need more workers. We've always imported immigrants but we do it legally. That way they are paying their taxes and so are their employers.

The companies and business owners hiring illegals are mostly Republicans. At least that's how they vote. Please don't try to suggest the business owners that hire illegals are Democrats.

.

Yes, I cited a law. The results of that law are legal.

They still have been adding a million Third World workers to the labor pool every year since 1965.

We don't need more workers. We need less, so that employers have to raise wages to get people to work for them.

The wealthy "business owners" are generally pretty evenly split politically, perhaps with a small tilt towards Republicans.

I for the most agree with you. But you can't pretend the goal wasn't to lower wages. They were defending jobs Americans won't do at the same time high paying manufacturing jobs and programming and so on jobs were going overseas. Next thing you know former corporate Secretarys might take that housekeeping job now. Before she wouldn't. And before she lost her home that housekeeping job wouldn't pay her mortgage. Now she just pays rent.

 

[Correll]

Sorry, Tyson was trafficking coke from Columbia. Stuffing balloons of it up chickens asses. Clinton was lugging suitcases full of drug money into the white house. Obama opened the borders to help drug cartels. He even gave them military weapons.

Do you have anything as good as this to back all that up?

"In 1999, the United States initiated fines against 417 companies. In 2004, it issued fine notices to three."

Because Clinton was in charge in 1999. That means the Federal Government was doing its job but then after Bush got in it stopped.

We told you you fucking liars that the GOP were purposely flooding the market with workers in order to drive down wages.

The article I posted was from 2006. You were NOT anti illegal immigration back then. Don't think we are going to forget. Not with the fucking internet to remind us what intellectually dishonest stupid pricks you all are.



And by the way John McCain you fucking idiot Republican. No one was complaining about the fruit picking Mexicans. We were complaining about all the illegals that work for Trump's construction companies. Oh wait, excuse me, he subcontracted so they weren't technically Trump's employees. We all know how guys like Trump get away with doing what they do.

But now you all believe Trump doesn't like illegals? What a hoot!!!

The Dems have been flooding the labor market with cheap Third World labor since 1965.

Even if Dems were "flooding the market with cheap labor since 65", were we importing them legally? Because we probably do need more workers. We've always imported immigrants but we do it legally. That way they are paying their taxes and so are their employers.

The companies and business owners hiring illegals are mostly Republicans. At least that's how they vote. Please don't try to suggest the business owners that hire illegals are Democrats.

.

Yes, I cited a law. The results of that law are legal.

They still have been adding a million Third World workers to the labor pool every year since 1965.

We don't need more workers. We need less, so that employers have to raise wages to get people to work for them.

The wealthy "business owners" are generally pretty evenly split politically, perhaps with a small tilt towards Republicans.

I for the most agree with you. But you can't pretend the goal wasn't to lower wages. They were defending jobs Americans won't do at the same time high paying manufacturing jobs and programming and so on jobs were going overseas. Next thing you know former corporate Secretarys might take that housekeeping job now. Before she wouldn't. And before she lost her home that housekeeping job wouldn't pay her mortgage. Now she just pays rent.

Depends who you are talking about.

Free Trade Ideologues believe it is for the best, overall.

I know. I used to be one.

Various Corporate types? THey might have well aware of their short term goals and/or the larger impact of their short term actions.

There is plenty of blame to go around, even some for Reagan.

The important thing is to reverse course on these polices.

 

[longknife]

Trump's response?



Ya gotta love it! Read the full story @ Mexico Says It Won't Pay for Wall, So Trump Responds With THIS | John Hawkins' Right Wing News

 

[Cecilie1200]

Well after. What is your point?

Well, accusing Mexico for stealing from the US, when the US has stolen the half of their country, is a little,..... hmm, whats the word I am looking for here.....

The Mexican American WAR ended in 1848, over One Hundred and Fifty Years ago.

It is completely reasonable for 21st century America to hold 21st Mexico responsible for their vastly more recent behavior.

Bringing up a war between the US and Mexico makes it seem like you think that Mexico is our enemy.

Is that what you are saying?

Because if I ask someone who is being an ass to me, why they are giving me a hard time, and they tell me they are holding me responsible for something one of my ancestors did 5 or 6 generations ago,

We've got a problem.

No, I understand history is history.

But you gotta understand; to treat people this way, who your ancestors already wronged in the past, is not a fair play.

And people don't like unfair human beings...

I didn't make this rule, it is the law of the nature. Even chimps don't like unfair chimps....

Actually, Mexicans are taking advantage of the US. They break our laws, steal our wealth, and many of them hate our guts. Try traveling in Mexico and see how Mexicans regard Americans.

I know they are taking advantage of the prosperity of this nation.

It is not a bad thing that this nation is sharing her prosperity with her neighbors
Thats what is supposed to happen
Thats what neighbors are for

You cant expect a devoted christian society to approve your disgusting selfish materialistic atheistic anti-christ guts, of course they will despise you.

I'm sure your neighbors just LOVE you. Do you just walk into their houses, sit down at the dinner table, and start helping yourself to food because "neighbors should share their prosperity"?

You have neighbors confused with family, who are stuck with your sorry butt.

 

[alpine]

Well, accusing Mexico for stealing from the US, when the US has stolen the half of their country, is a little,..... hmm, whats the word I am looking for here.....

The Mexican American WAR ended in 1848, over One Hundred and Fifty Years ago.

It is completely reasonable for 21st century America to hold 21st Mexico responsible for their vastly more recent behavior.

Bringing up a war between the US and Mexico makes it seem like you think that Mexico is our enemy.

Is that what you are saying?

Because if I ask someone who is being an ass to me, why they are giving me a hard time, and they tell me they are holding me responsible for something one of my ancestors did 5 or 6 generations ago,

We've got a problem.

No, I understand history is history.

But you gotta understand; to treat people this way, who your ancestors already wronged in the past, is not a fair play.

And people don't like unfair human beings...

I didn't make this rule, it is the law of the nature. Even chimps don't like unfair chimps....

Actually, Mexicans are taking advantage of the US. They break our laws, steal our wealth, and many of them hate our guts. Try traveling in Mexico and see how Mexicans regard Americans.

I know they are taking advantage of the prosperity of this nation.

It is not a bad thing that this nation is sharing her prosperity with her neighbors
Thats what is supposed to happen
Thats what neighbors are for

You cant expect a devoted christian society to approve your disgusting selfish materialistic atheistic anti-christ guts, of course they will despise you.

I'm sure your neighbors just LOVE you. Do you just walk into their houses, sit down at the dinner table, and start helping yourself to food because "neighbors should share their prosperity"?

You have neighbors confused with family, who are stuck with your sorry butt.

Exactly, neighbors dont just go to your backyard and claim the half of it, like US did to Mexico. You did "help yourself" and carved up half of their country. Nobody mentioned these "etiquettes" you are mentioning now back then...

But if you did that, take half of their country without asking them, at least you could do something nice for them, share some of the prosperity which would cost literally nothing to you, and make them think "yes, they are not that bad after all....."

But you are too selfish to realize that, arent you.
Your sorry ass likes to complain complain and complain and you know nothing better than complaining.......

 

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Exactly, neighbors dont just go to your backyard and claim the half of it, like US did to Mexico. You did "help yourself" and carved up half of their country. Nobody mentioned these "etiquettes" you are mentioning now back then...

But if you did that, take half of their country without asking them........

Bullshit. Study some actual history.

 

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Exactly, neighbors dont just go to your backyard and claim the half of it, like US did to Mexico. You did "help yourself" and carved up half of their country. Nobody mentioned these "etiquettes" you are mentioning now back then...

But if you did that, take half of their country without asking them........

Bullshit. Study some actual history.

Why dont you do that?

US did take half of mexico, entire west of the country.

Did Mexicans make a big deal out of it?
No

But some Americans are crying like babies when Mexicans cross the border to "contribute" and "share" the prosperity of the neighbor.


Just grow up, cry babies......