McDonalds Introduces Self Serving Kiosks in Response to Min Wage Increase

[rightwinger]

Companies make profit off of every employee

When the wages of the bulk of their employees gets frozen for eight years, they make even more profit. During that eight year period: The price of supplies, taxes, real estate, advertising, insurance and even executive pay has risen and the companies have adjusted to the market

Yet, when the lowest paid worker in the company wants higher wages....the company claims they will go bankrupt

Okay, let's be logical here.

First, companies make money off the work from every employee or the employee doesn't works for them. That means that if you artificially raise their pay with no corresponding revenue increase, some of them will be added to the "no longer works here" category.

Second, companies are not saying they will go bankrupt if we raise the MW. They're saying they will go bankrupt if we double their labor costs overnight and they can't raise prices high enough to offset the increase. It's a matter of degree.

Third, the employees who made the minimum 8 years ago are not the same employees making the minimum today. If they are, something is wrong, because as you gain skills and experience, you become more valuable. If the company doesn't recognize that increase in value with more pay, you go somewhere that will.

it is why some on the left are advocating for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and fourteen dollars an hour for unemployment compensation; go ahead, get natural, with Capitalism natural rate of unemployment; i dare you.

Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages not minimum wages; why are those naysayers, such slackers? Are they unwilling to practice more, a work ethic from the Age of Iron, along side their more laborious, employees? don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

And now you're spouting the slogans that have been demolished.

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

you mean "the poor" who don't want to work more than 40 hours a week ?

You assume there are additional hours available to our 30 million working poor
Got any stats to support that?

 

[danielpalos]

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

you mean "the poor" who don't want to work more than 40 hours a week ?

no, i mean the "poor" who work by the "sweat of their brow" practicing a work ethic from the Age of Iron.

and just what work ethic is that?

just lousy reading comprehension from the fantastical, right wing?

by the "sweat of their brow" practicing a work ethic from the Age of Iron.

that is meaningless.

Not into morals?

By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."

 

[danielpalos]

Companies make profit off of every employee

When the wages of the bulk of their employees gets frozen for eight years, they make even more profit. During that eight year period: The price of supplies, taxes, real estate, advertising, insurance and even executive pay has risen and the companies have adjusted to the market

Yet, when the lowest paid worker in the company wants higher wages....the company claims they will go bankrupt

Okay, let's be logical here.

First, companies make money off the work from every employee or the employee doesn't works for them. That means that if you artificially raise their pay with no corresponding revenue increase, some of them will be added to the "no longer works here" category.

Second, companies are not saying they will go bankrupt if we raise the MW. They're saying they will go bankrupt if we double their labor costs overnight and they can't raise prices high enough to offset the increase. It's a matter of degree.

Third, the employees who made the minimum 8 years ago are not the same employees making the minimum today. If they are, something is wrong, because as you gain skills and experience, you become more valuable. If the company doesn't recognize that increase in value with more pay, you go somewhere that will.

it is why some on the left are advocating for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and fourteen dollars an hour for unemployment compensation; go ahead, get natural, with Capitalism natural rate of unemployment; i dare you.

Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages not minimum wages; why are those naysayers, such slackers? Are they unwilling to practice more, a work ethic from the Age of Iron, along side their more laborious, employees? don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

And now you're spouting the slogans that have been demolished.

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

You just can't help yourself, can you?

why blame the poor?

 

[hadit]

Okay, let's be logical here.

First, companies make money off the work from every employee or the employee doesn't works for them. That means that if you artificially raise their pay with no corresponding revenue increase, some of them will be added to the "no longer works here" category.

Second, companies are not saying they will go bankrupt if we raise the MW. They're saying they will go bankrupt if we double their labor costs overnight and they can't raise prices high enough to offset the increase. It's a matter of degree.

Third, the employees who made the minimum 8 years ago are not the same employees making the minimum today. If they are, something is wrong, because as you gain skills and experience, you become more valuable. If the company doesn't recognize that increase in value with more pay, you go somewhere that will.

it is why some on the left are advocating for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and fourteen dollars an hour for unemployment compensation; go ahead, get natural, with Capitalism natural rate of unemployment; i dare you.

Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages not minimum wages; why are those naysayers, such slackers? Are they unwilling to practice more, a work ethic from the Age of Iron, along side their more laborious, employees? don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

And now you're spouting the slogans that have been demolished.

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

You just can't help yourself, can you?

why blame the poor?

I'm not, that's why your slogans are so stupid.

 

[danielpalos]

it is why some on the left are advocating for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and fourteen dollars an hour for unemployment compensation; go ahead, get natural, with Capitalism natural rate of unemployment; i dare you.

Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages not minimum wages; why are those naysayers, such slackers? Are they unwilling to practice more, a work ethic from the Age of Iron, along side their more laborious, employees? don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

And now you're spouting the slogans that have been demolished.

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

You just can't help yourself, can you?

why blame the poor?

I'm not, that's why your slogans are so stupid.

Yeah, right. Why not unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage?

 

[Uncensored2008]

But the same PERCENTAGE of the McDonalds workforce remains at a minimum wage that hasn't been raised in eight years

Whether Thelma Lou in Buttfuck Arkansas eventually gets an additional 15 cents an hour as a shift supervisor is irrelevant

So the fact, as acknowledged by you, that minimum wage is transitory, that people advance quickly past minimum to be replaced by other on their way up is "irrelevant?"

Yet one more reason that the next democrat president hasn't been born yet.

 

[Uncensored2008]

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no, i mean the "poor" who work by the "sweat of their brow" practicing a work ethic from the Age of Iron.

Ah yes, muscle rather than mind is the source of production....


Fucking retard.

 

[rightwinger]

But the same PERCENTAGE of the McDonalds workforce remains at a minimum wage that hasn't been raised in eight years

Whether Thelma Lou in Buttfuck Arkansas eventually gets an additional 15 cents an hour as a shift supervisor is irrelevant

So the fact, as acknowledged by you, that minimum wage is transitory, that people advance quickly past minimum to be replaced by other on their way up is "irrelevant?"

Yet one more reason that the next democrat president hasn't been born yet.

So your excuse is that because people don't spend a lifetime earning minimum wage it is acceptable for corporations to exploit them

People earning minimum wage need their money just as much as the McDonalds CEO does

 

[danielpalos]

[
no, i mean the "poor" who work by the "sweat of their brow" practicing a work ethic from the Age of Iron.

Ah yes, muscle rather than mind is the source of production....


Fucking retard.

I would like to take this time and opportunity to, "blame the national socialist right wing" for insisting on a work ethic from the Age of Iron in modern, corporate welfare times.

 

[Skull Pilot]

Okay, let's be logical here.

First, companies make money off the work from every employee or the employee doesn't works for them. That means that if you artificially raise their pay with no corresponding revenue increase, some of them will be added to the "no longer works here" category.

Second, companies are not saying they will go bankrupt if we raise the MW. They're saying they will go bankrupt if we double their labor costs overnight and they can't raise prices high enough to offset the increase. It's a matter of degree.

Third, the employees who made the minimum 8 years ago are not the same employees making the minimum today. If they are, something is wrong, because as you gain skills and experience, you become more valuable. If the company doesn't recognize that increase in value with more pay, you go somewhere that will.

it is why some on the left are advocating for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and fourteen dollars an hour for unemployment compensation; go ahead, get natural, with Capitalism natural rate of unemployment; i dare you.

Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages not minimum wages; why are those naysayers, such slackers? Are they unwilling to practice more, a work ethic from the Age of Iron, along side their more laborious, employees? don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

And now you're spouting the slogans that have been demolished.

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

you mean "the poor" who don't want to work more than 40 hours a week ?

You assume there are additional hours available to our 30 million working poor
Got any stats to support that?

Anyone can find extra work if they want to.

 

[Skull Pilot]

you mean "the poor" who don't want to work more than 40 hours a week ?

no, i mean the "poor" who work by the "sweat of their brow" practicing a work ethic from the Age of Iron.

and just what work ethic is that?

just lousy reading comprehension from the fantastical, right wing?

by the "sweat of their brow" practicing a work ethic from the Age of Iron.

that is meaningless.

Not into morals?

By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."

Nope. If people don't want to work enough to pay their own way that's their problem not mine

You don't seem to understand that when I was in my 20s and 30s I regularly worked 70 hours a week to support myself and to save for my future

If all you want to work is 40 hours a week, call out sick 10 or more times a year or refuse to come in early and stay late then you get what you get

no one who has ever accomplished anything in life only worked 40 hours a week

 

[Skull Pilot]

And now you're spouting the slogans that have been demolished.

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

You just can't help yourself, can you?

why blame the poor?

I'm not, that's why your slogans are so stupid.

Yeah, right. Why not unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage?

because lazy fucks like you would just stay unemployed and live at mama's house

 

[rightwinger]

it is why some on the left are advocating for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and fourteen dollars an hour for unemployment compensation; go ahead, get natural, with Capitalism natural rate of unemployment; i dare you.

Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages not minimum wages; why are those naysayers, such slackers? Are they unwilling to practice more, a work ethic from the Age of Iron, along side their more laborious, employees? don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

And now you're spouting the slogans that have been demolished.

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

you mean "the poor" who don't want to work more than 40 hours a week ?

You assume there are additional hours available to our 30 million working poor
Got any stats to support that?

Anyone can find extra work if they want to.

One person can
30 million people who work and need government assistance can't

Show me where there are 30 million jobs out there that are unfilled

 

[hadit]

And now you're spouting the slogans that have been demolished.

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

You just can't help yourself, can you?

why blame the poor?

I'm not, that's why your slogans are so stupid.

Yeah, right. Why not unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage?

If society wants that kind of welfare state, then society needs to write legislation, raise taxes and start handing out the money. Forcing companies to be welfare distribution centers is dumb.

 

[rightwinger]

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

You just can't help yourself, can you?

why blame the poor?

I'm not, that's why your slogans are so stupid.

Yeah, right. Why not unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage?

If society wants that kind of welfare state, then society needs to write legislation, raise taxes and start handing out the money. Forcing companies to be welfare distribution centers is dumb.

Or else we can examine our tax code
We have been relaxing corporate tax rates, providing numerous exemptions and subsidies and relaxed regulations over the last thirty years. All in the name of increasing corporate profits expecting a trickle down of more jobs and better wages. Corporations just kept the extra profits

Since it never happened and we now have to pay to support the lower waged workers, it is time to readjust those rates to help pay for the welfare we are forced to give

 

[Skull Pilot]

And now you're spouting the slogans that have been demolished.

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

you mean "the poor" who don't want to work more than 40 hours a week ?

You assume there are additional hours available to our 30 million working poor
Got any stats to support that?

Anyone can find extra work if they want to.

One person can
30 million people who work and need government assistance can't

Show me where there are 30 million jobs out there that are unfilled

Look in every classifies
d ad in every newspaper in the country and add them up. Then add up all the opportunities to make extra money on your own initiative

Of course you are assuming all those people actually want to look for work

 

[hadit]

You just can't help yourself, can you?

why blame the poor?

I'm not, that's why your slogans are so stupid.

Yeah, right. Why not unemployment compensation at fourteen dollars an hour with a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage?

If society wants that kind of welfare state, then society needs to write legislation, raise taxes and start handing out the money. Forcing companies to be welfare distribution centers is dumb.

Or else we can examine our tax code
We have been relaxing corporate tax rates, providing numerous exemptions and subsidies and relaxed regulations over the last thirty years. All in the name of increasing corporate profits expecting a trickle down of more jobs and better wages. Corporations just kept the extra profits

Since it never happened and we now have to pay to support the lower waged workers, it is time to readjust those rates to help pay for the welfare we are forced to give

Since customers actually pay all those corporate taxes, isn't it about time to give the taxpayer a break?

And no one is "forced" to give welfare. It's a societal decision to do so. Like I said, if society wants everyone to have a guaranteed salary...

 

[rightwinger]

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

you mean "the poor" who don't want to work more than 40 hours a week ?

You assume there are additional hours available to our 30 million working poor
Got any stats to support that?

Anyone can find extra work if they want to.

One person can
30 million people who work and need government assistance can't

Show me where there are 30 million jobs out there that are unfilled

Look in every classifies
d ad in every newspaper in the country and add them up. Then add up all the opportunities to make extra money on your own initiative

Of course you are assuming all those people actually want to look for work

You keep looking from a microeconomic (individual person or company) view.....Yes, a small percentage of low wage workers can find better jobs
But from a macroeconomic (whole country) view, our economy does not have enough "better paying jobs" for low wage workers to move into. Those jobs used to be in manufacturing and construction....but there are not 30 million of those jobs out there
Starting a small business is not a solution for most burger flippers. Even with highly qualified entrepreneurs, most small businesses fail

So your "work harder and find a better job" solution does little to solve the problem of low wage workers needing government assistance

 

[danielpalos]

it is why some on the left are advocating for a fifteen dollar an hour minimum wage and fourteen dollars an hour for unemployment compensation; go ahead, get natural, with Capitalism natural rate of unemployment; i dare you.

Henry Ford doubled autoworker wages not minimum wages; why are those naysayers, such slackers? Are they unwilling to practice more, a work ethic from the Age of Iron, along side their more laborious, employees? don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

And now you're spouting the slogans that have been demolished.

don't be lazy; work hard, just like the poor.

you mean "the poor" who don't want to work more than 40 hours a week ?

You assume there are additional hours available to our 30 million working poor
Got any stats to support that?

Anyone can find extra work if they want to.

will it be "worth the effort" or cost more in the long run?

 

[danielpalos]

no, i mean the "poor" who work by the "sweat of their brow" practicing a work ethic from the Age of Iron.

and just what work ethic is that?

just lousy reading comprehension from the fantastical, right wing?

by the "sweat of their brow" practicing a work ethic from the Age of Iron.

that is meaningless.

Not into morals?

By the sweat of your brow you will eat your food until you return to the ground, since from it you were taken; for dust you are and to dust you will return."

Nope. If people don't want to work enough to pay their own way that's their problem not mine

You don't seem to understand that when I was in my 20s and 30s I regularly worked 70 hours a week to support myself and to save for my future

If all you want to work is 40 hours a week, call out sick 10 or more times a year or refuse to come in early and stay late then you get what you get

no one who has ever accomplished anything in life only worked 40 hours a week

How many hours did Jesus the Christ put in?