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clearly, you have never been in uniform. The president talks to the Secretary of Defense.... The SECDEF talks to the generals. I don't WANT my president bypassing the chain of command.... clearly, you do.
Really? And you know this how?
Obviously your one of the 69,000,000 fools......
I assume that you have not been in uniform because you expect the president to violate the chain of command, which someone with any military experience at all would know is inappropriate.
what made this happen....
Really? And you know this how?
Obviously your one of the 69,000,000 fools......
I assume that you have not been in uniform because you expect the president to violate the chain of command, which someone with any military experience at all would know is inappropriate.
Oh, btw, they are meeting with him today.......
Really? And you know this how?
Obviously your one of the 69,000,000 fools......
I assume that you have not been in uniform because you expect the president to violate the chain of command, which someone with any military experience at all would know is inappropriate.
maineman, the first three letters of assume spell ass, be careful in using that word.....
The defensive argument that the chain of command is the real issue is bogus, he is POTUS isn't he? A good example of a quality leader is he or she finds out what is really happening on the street, this bullshit about chain of command does not apply to the POTUS, unless he believes he is in the Ivory Tower, which is what this is really all about, he sucks as a military leader, to date all he has done is talk and talk is cheap......don't keepit can cause brain damage.....
since he had already had a conference with the general once, how would doing it again be a violation of the chain of command?I assume that you have not been in uniform because you expect the president to violate the chain of command, which someone with any military experience at all would know is inappropriate.
Oh, btw, they are meeting with him today.......
I am sure that it is solely because of the convincing nature of your posts here at USMB!
oh...btw...do you think that Gates will be there?
Why avoid the point I made?
Oh.. nevermind... I guess I know why.
since he had already conferenced with the general once, how would doing it again be a violation of the chain of command?Oh, btw, they are meeting with him today.......
I am sure that it is solely because of the convincing nature of your posts here at USMB!
oh...btw...do you think that Gates will be there?
Why avoid the point I made?
Oh.. nevermind... I guess I know why.
I suppose the stunned nature of the CBS reporter who interviewed McChrystal and the other officers who said they were stunned as well, may have had a bit to do with that. BHO does not like looking bad and the BHO groupies fail at defending a lot of what he does and does not do.Really? And you know this how?
Obviously your one of the 69,000,000 fools......
I assume that you have not been in uniform because you expect the president to violate the chain of command, which someone with any military experience at all would know is inappropriate.
Oh, btw, they are meeting with him today.......
it doesn't mattersince he had already conferenced with the general once, how would doing it again be a violation of the chain of command?I am sure that it is solely because of the convincing nature of your posts here at USMB!
oh...btw...do you think that Gates will be there?
Why avoid the point I made?
Oh.. nevermind... I guess I know why.
do you think that his secdef was not present when he teleconferenced with the general the first time?
it doesn't mattersince he had already conferenced with the general once, how would doing it again be a violation of the chain of command?
do you think that his secdef was not present when he teleconferenced with the general the first time?
that is a deflection
no one says the secdef shouldn't be there every time
whats wrong with including subordinates in the discussion process?it doesn't matterdo you think that his secdef was not present when he teleconferenced with the general the first time?
that is a deflection
no one says the secdef shouldn't be there every time
what is wrong with Obama trusting his secdef and simply speaking with him?
I assume that you have not been in uniform because you expect the president to violate the chain of command, which someone with any military experience at all would know is inappropriate.
Oh, btw, they are meeting with him today.......
I am sure that it is solely because of the convincing nature of your posts here at USMB!
oh...btw...do you think that Gates will be there?
Dumb question....
Why avoid the point I made?
What point would that be? Serving in the military?
Oh.. nevermind... I guess I know why.
C'mon, Dive; you couldn't possibly understand the chain of command.whats wrong with including subordinates in the discussion process?it doesn't matter
that is a deflection
no one says the secdef shouldn't be there every time
what is wrong with Obama trusting his secdef and simply speaking with him?
who said anything was wrong with it?whats wrong with including subordinates in the discussion process?it doesn't matter
that is a deflection
no one says the secdef shouldn't be there every time
what is wrong with Obama trusting his secdef and simply speaking with him?
I assume that you have not been in uniform because you expect the president to violate the chain of command, which someone with any military experience at all would know is inappropriate.
maineman, the first three letters of assume spell ass, be careful in using that word.....
The defensive argument that the chain of command is the real issue is bogus, he is POTUS isn't he? A good example of a quality leader is he or she finds out what is really happening on the street, this bullshit about chain of command does not apply to the POTUS, unless he believes he is in the Ivory Tower, which is what this is really all about, he sucks as a military leader, to date all he has done is talk and talk is cheap......don't keep
and you don't think that he can find out what is really happening on the street from discussions with his secretary of defense?
Lets be honest here for a minute. Our kids are being brutally slaughtered over there every day yet our President chooses to talk to this man only once? Come on,even a Hopey Changey Sheep can see that this is extremely sad & disturbing. Can't they see this? This is a real travesty and our kids certainly deserve better than this.
it doesn't matterdo you think that his secdef was not present when he teleconferenced with the general the first time?
that is a deflection
no one says the secdef shouldn't be there every time
what is wrong with Obama trusting his secdef and simply speaking with him?
maineman, the first three letters of assume spell ass, be careful in using that word.....
The defensive argument that the chain of command is the real issue is bogus, he is POTUS isn't he? A good example of a quality leader is he or she finds out what is really happening on the street, this bullshit about chain of command does not apply to the POTUS, unless he believes he is in the Ivory Tower, which is what this is really all about, he sucks as a military leader, to date all he has done is talk and talk is cheap......don't keep
and you don't think that he can find out what is really happening on the street from discussions with his secretary of defense?
So do you think Gates makes the decisions or Obama?
yes, they should have waited till the next generation of armor was createdLets be honest here for a minute. Our kids are being brutally slaughtered over there every day yet our President chooses to talk to this man only once? Come on,even a Hopey Changey Sheep can see that this is extremely sad & disturbing. Can't they see this? This is a real travesty and our kids certainly deserve better than this.
Republicans sent our sons and daughters to Iraq with old and rusty equipment.
Iraq-bound soldiers confront Rumsfeld over lack of armor | The San Diego Union-Tribune
Republicans didn't give a sh*t about them then.
McCain: Make combat-disabled top VA priority - Army News, news from Iraq, - Army Times
Your absurdity is based on a false generalization.because, if you question ONE level of the chain of command, why not question ALL of them? And if you do, aren't you suggesting that the PFC peeling potatoes has as good, if not better information than the Secretary of Defense? And if that is the case, shouldn't Obama be required to hear from ALL PFC's one-on-one before making ANY military decision? ANd if that IS the case, what good are secretaries of defense, or even generals, colonels, and majors, for matter?
