McChrystal prepared to resign

[DiveCon]

I guess he decided not to listen his generals after all. No surprise here.

or perhaps the good general was asked to leave because he had no business leaking his report to force the president's hand.

i know i'd have asked him to resign...no matter what i was going to decide

uh, my reading of this, he hasnt been ASKED to resign, he's THREATENING to

 

[Diuretic]

Does this have a shade of MacArthur about it?

I ask, I'm sorry, out of a sense of half remembering and half ignorance. I seem to remember some time ago (I use that a lot don't I? ) reading about a dispute he had with Truman and how MacArthur was sacked. Is this a bit like that? Is it about McChrystal arguing that the military objectives can be achieved but only with more troops and trying to put the squeeze on Obama to comply?
Or is it a Westmoreland thing?

One thing's for sure, the politicians are always in charge of a war, the military just do the dying and getting injured.

 

[DiveCon]

Does this have a shade of MacArthur about it?

I ask, I'm sorry, out of a sense of half remembering and half ignorance. I seem to remember some time ago (I use that a lot don't I? ) reading about a dispute he had with Truman and how MacArthur was sacked. Is this a bit like that? Is it about McChrystal arguing that the military objectives can be achieved but only with more troops and trying to put the squeeze on Obama to comply?
Or is it a Westmoreland thing?

One thing's for sure, the politicians are always in charge of a war, the military just do the dying and getting injured.

no
MacAuthor wanted to basically invade China(using Nukes)
not exactly the same thing

 

[Care4all]

We need a few hundred thousand men there to do the job or we need to LEAVE, this 45k is just piece meal...

the american people will not go for the few hundred thousand, so we need to leave.

that's where i stand.

care

 

[DiveCon]

We need a few hundred thousand men there to do the job or we need to LEAVE, this 45k is just piece meal...

the american people will not go for the few hundred thousand, so we need to leave.

that's where i stand.

care

i dont think we need THAT many
but i agree that either give the general the resources(men and equipment) or get us the hell out

 

[Care4all]

What is the goal and mission in Afghanistan?

 

[jillian]

uh, my reading of this, he hasnt been ASKED to resign, he's THREATENING to

See...that's what happens when I try to read something before I have my first cup of coffee.

But I'd fire him for the public tantrum anyway....

 

[The Rabbi]

uh, my reading of this, he hasnt been ASKED to resign, he's THREATENING to

See...that's what happens when I try to read something before I have my first cup of coffee.

But I'd fire him for the public tantrum anyway....

And that's why you're not CinC, sweety.

 

[namvet]

I guess he decided not to listen his generals after all. No surprise here.

or perhaps the good general was asked to leave because he had no business leaking his report to force the president's hand.

i know i'd have asked him to resign...no matter what i was going to decide

got news for ya bubbles. the black house leaked his report to the Times

 

[jillian]

no they didn't, genius.

but thanks for proving you're a racist yet again!

 

[jillian]

And that's why you're not CinC, sweety.

so you'd allow someone who works for you to take you on in public?

somehow i don't think so. but thanks honey bunny.

 

[namvet]

no they didn't, genius.

but thanks for proving you're a racist yet again!

where do think leaks come from??? watch the news bubbles. it was on every channel

If you think that a czar is unconstitutional
... you might be a racist!

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... you might be a racist!

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If you are a racist according to the current liberal agenda
... you might just be an American!

 

[The Rabbi]

no they didn't, genius.

but thanks for proving you're a racist yet again!

A lot of confidence where none is warranted.
A D.C. whodunit: Who leaked and why? - Ben Smith - POLITICO.com
I don't know who leaked it. You don't know either. Only Bob Woodward knows. And he aint talking.

 

[namvet]

national security is a total joke.

 

[Si modo]

While all this blustering is just too adorable, I'll see if I can find any comment about McChrystal from NATO command.

 

[namvet]

While all this blustering is just too adorable, I'll see if I can find any comment about McChrystal from NATO command.

the libs wanna put him on the witness stand.

 

[del]

take it to the flame zone if you want to have at it, folks. otherwise, let's try not to derail the thread toooo badly.

 

[Missourian]

Alli, there you go shooting yourself in the foot again with thoughtless comments. Evidence please for your conclusion.

I lived over by Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri, when Obama was campaigning.

On July 30th 2008, he and his convoy passed within one mile of the Fort and 20,000 active duty troops and 20,000 support personnel, to go to a picnic in Union, Mo with 250 people in attendance.

Many of the soldiers at FLW are MP's and engineers that have done as many as three tours in Iraq and Afghanistan.

But he couldn't be bothered to say "thank you for your service" to our troops. What a schmuck.

Link --- http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/07/30/AR2008073002929.html

Population
------------
Springfield, Mo 156,000
Rolla, MO 18,000
Lebanon, MO 12,000
Union, MO 9,000

Population of Fort Leonard Wood....29,000 plus 55,000 trainees annually plus 7000 living just off post.
Adjusted for training cycles,
a total of 45,000​

Link to population of FLW - http://www.saintrobert.com/Economic/Economics.htm

 

[Polk]

I guess he decided not to listen his generals after all. No surprise here.

This meme has always struck me as interesting for two reasons.

1. There is a reason we have civilian control of the military. If the President was to simply rubberstamp whatever the commanders asked him for, why even require them to ask?

2. Has any President ever just blindly accepted recommendations?

This isn't an argument for or against sending more troops to Afghanistan. Just a thought about that argument.

 

[strollingbones]

i dont think mcchrystal will resign...why would he....not the first time a potus has refused to listen to the military....and his resignation would be a blow to the morale of the troops...i think he cares more about the troops than the bad press...or dissing by obama.