McCain: "Dictators Start By Suppressing Media"

[Avatar4321]

Is someone suppressing the media?

 

[Political Junky]

You stupid fucks think we care what McCain and Graham say? They are no better than Pelosi or Schumer.

Your comment demonstrates how far Right the Right has gone.

 

[skye]

McCain On Trump Declaring The Media An Enemy: "That's How Dictators Get Started"




I would only ask McCain......

who hurt you so? what has happened to you? why are you like this?

you used to be a fine man......sadly, not anymore

 

[oreo]

Obama and Hillary Clinton are out of the picture and ALL EYEBALLS are focused on the Comrade.
Trump aides were in constant touch with senior Russian officials during campaign - CNNPolitics.com

Collusion with a foreign adversary to disrupt an American national election, & or to do a Cyber attack on the United states is TREASON.

You can try and deflect all you want too, but it won't work. This is the biggest scandal in American history, and it's going to end up being a 1000 times worse than Watergate, because it does in fact involve a Foreign adversary.

You people picked a real "winner" here.

Amen! Heads must roll.

Yeah, he'll be impeached there's no doubt about it. They're also investigating FBI Director James Comey which will be making the headline news also.
DOJ to Investigate James Comey and the FBI

Good for Shepard Smith ... speaking out against Trump, now at 39%.

Republicans are in quite a spot here. If they don't do something about Trump--they're going to get slaughtered in 2018 and 2020, and I think they know it. Trump is just a comedy T.V. reality show--and everyone is getting very tired of it. Everyday is another disaster.

In Shep's video--he actually states that Trump aids were on the phone with the Russians at the very time the DNC was being hacked. Obviously they have the phone records to prove that. This is Treason there is no getting around that. Campaign aids have absolutely no rational reason to be talking to Foreign adversary's during the campaign season. Russians don't vote and they can't make campaign donations.

Now THAT'S funny...Democrats who

- Have suffered back-to-back 'historic, record-setting' election ass-kickings...

- Have lost the last Presidential election after their prognostications turned out to be horribly WRONG...

- Have lost over 1,000 races / positions in the last year

...trying to give advice on how to be politically successful and how NOT to lose an election

You must be on the Comrade's news -LOL Where did you get that Democrats have lost over 1,000 races / positions in the last year, when Republicans lost 2 Senate seats, and 6 house seats this year?

Do you have any idea what is coming at you in 2018? Have you seen the Welcome Home Parties that Republicans are experiencing right now at their Town Halls?

Here is Salt Lake City, Utah--considered the most conservative state in the Nation. I doubt there is more than 30 democrats that live there. In fact this video was shown to Republican Senate & House members to give them a heads up on what to expect for their homecoming party.
Republican town halls are getting very, very nasty



This woman is calling to impeach Trump, and she more than likely voted for him.


You have effectively killed the Republican party. You have put a target on every Republican back out there.

And these women sure aren't going to forget to vote.

For more pictures of the woman's march, and what was going on in your home state go here. They were in the millions.
Woman's march pictures

nor these people

The only thing a Trump Presidency has done is awoken a sleeping Giant. And it's PISSED.

 

[Contumacious]

Is someone suppressing the media?

This one of Lakota's bullshit thread to smear DJT - that 's how she get her jollies.

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[JQPublic1]

As far as dictators getting a start. That comes from a government and press that stops listening to the public. Feeling powerless, they seek a voice. People voted for Trump to gain a voice in government and stop a press that has over stepped their purpose and become a tool of corruption.

I agree very much, he became popular for that reason. People have a voice now as well on the internet, but there are scums who use it to scam and troll..

I am a left leaning democrat who supported Trump in the beginning for that reason.. It was the GOP trying to cheat him over last summer.. But we were watching like hawks .

I am saying that it is not just the liberal sites doing this..

I've said this over and over again that the Rght Establishment is scared to death of Trump as is The Left.

These people have been lying to The Right & Left for years and undermining American Interests for Corporatists and Globalists.

If Lefty had any brains he'd realize this and would be rooting Trump not trying to help the corupt establishment undermine him.

Who is lefty? does that term, in your mind, include all of the diverse populations you have erroneously pigeonholed as leftists?Or are you just referring to White leftists? Considering that the term conservative doesn't apply to Trump, neither does the term "Right." Trump's populism is more akin to Leftism than is the political platform of the democrats. In RW America populism embraces elements of both liberalism as well as conservatism and tends towards racial homogeneity :

Spoiler: populism

Did You Know?
The word populist first appeared in the 1890s with the founding of the Populist Party, which stood for the interests of the farmers against the big-money interests. In later years populismcame to be associated with the blue-collar class in the cities as well. Populism can be hard to predict. It sometimes has a religious tendency; it usually isn't very interested in international affairs; it has sometimes been unfriendly to immigrants and blacks; and it's often anti-intellectual. So populism often switches between liberal and conservative. But the populist style always shows its concern with Americans with average incomes as opposed to the rich and powerful.

Can you expect support from people of color when, historically, populism has racism and intolerance as a companion?

 

[Claudette]

What is worse, a president criticizing the press or the press fawning over the president afraid to ask any hard questions?

The press has been all over Trump. Lots of negative stories and they run 24/7. He goes right back at them.

To bad they weren't all over Obama. An Obama they had an affair with. An Obama they never bothered to investigate. An Obama the LSM was okay with no matter what he did or said.

I'd say the MSM should get back to being honest and report stories honestly.

I won't be holding my breath.

 

[FA_Q2]

Dictators start by supressing the media. Very true.

The problem here with the asinine talking point though is that Trump has done exactly noting to suppress the media one iota. The Media is as free today as it has been over the last few decades.

But Trump is a liar and his lies have become the alt Right gospel. When he declares news he doesn't like fake news, regardless of how true it is, his faithful zombies
shake their heads up and down in unison, expressing unabashed agreement. That is horrifying... It is as if he has cast a spell over his loyal fans and can do no wrong in their eyes. He could be just pick a female Trump bot out of the crowd , pull down her panties , bend her over and hump her right n the middle of Madison Square Garden and his constituents wouldn't care. And she would probably be smiling the whole time and giving the onlookers a thumbs up.

So they are just like the partisan hacks that have been rooting for their guy since the beginning of politics. Obama has the same sycophantic followers. The only real difference now is that Trump is a lot more crass.

Dictators start by supressing the media. Very true.

The problem here with the asinine talking point though is that Trump has done exactly noting to suppress the media one iota. The Media is as free today as it has been over the last few decades.

Trump cannot suppress the media so he is trying to marginalized them

Trump is not afraid of the media....he is afraid of the truth

So now we are going to try and move the goalposts.

Trump is not marginalizing the media - they marginalized themselves. Trump is capitalizing on a deep seated mistrust that the public has for major media outlets - a deep seated mistrust that was dutifully earned by those news sources.

 

[Pogo]

Dictators start by supressing the media. Very true.

The problem here with the asinine talking point though is that Trump has done exactly noting to suppress the media one iota. The Media is as free today as it has been over the last few decades.

But Trump is a liar and his lies have become the alt Right gospel. When he declares news he doesn't like fake news, regardless of how true it is, his faithful zombies
shake their heads up and down in unison, expressing unabashed agreement. That is horrifying... It is as if he has cast a spell over his loyal fans and can do no wrong in their eyes. He could be just pick a female Trump bot out of the crowd , pull down her panties , bend her over and hump her right n the middle of Madison Square Garden and his constituents wouldn't care. And she would probably be smiling the whole time and giving the onlookers a thumbs up.

So they are just like the partisan hacks that have been rooting for their guy since the beginning of politics. Obama has the same sycophantic followers. The only real difference now is that Trump is a lot more crass.

Dictators start by supressing the media. Very true.

The problem here with the asinine talking point though is that Trump has done exactly noting to suppress the media one iota. The Media is as free today as it has been over the last few decades.

Trump cannot suppress the media so he is trying to marginalized them

Trump is not afraid of the media....he is afraid of the truth

So now we are going to try and move the goalposts.

Trump is not marginalizing the media - they marginalized themselves. Trump is capitalizing on a deep seated mistrust that the public has for major media outlets - a deep seated mistrust that was dutifully earned by those news sources.

Which is drippingly ironic since Rump owes not only his position but his entire existence to that exact same media and its LCD values.

Rump is in effect the inevitable result of it. To paraphrase Voltaire, if Rump did not exist, media would have invented one just like him.

Don't know whether he's thought this all the way through or not but either his butthurt is designed to simply stifle it, which ultimately starves his own ego to death, which we all know he can't handle, or he's just blowing hot air to, as usual, have his minions froth at the mouth and do his dirty stifling work for him so that, as usual, he can stand aside and say "hey, it's them, not me". As always, shirking responsibility even when the end game is exactly what he wants ---- control of the dialogue and stifling any criticism of his fragile delicate eggshell little-boy psyche.

And those useful idiots fall all over themselves buying it in spite of their own self-interest. SMH
I'm going with the latter.

 

[TNHarley]

McCain On Trump Declaring The Media An Enemy: "That's How Dictators Get Started"

Republican Senator Arizona Senator told NBC News in a clip released Saturday (above) that President Donald Trump's most recent attack on the media is an example of "how dictators get started."

Chuck Todd, host of "Meet the Press," asked McCain about Trump's tweet Friday, in which the president declared that the media is "the enemy of the American people."

"If you want to preserve Democracy as we know it, you have to have a free and many times adversarial press, and without it I'm afraid we would lose so much of our individual liberties over time. That's how dictators get started," McCain responded.

"They get started by suppressing a free press," he added. "In other words, a consolidation of power, when you look at history, the first thing that dictators do, is shut down the press. I'm not saying that President Trump is trying to be a dictator. I'm just saying we need to learn the lessons of history."

McCain On Trump Declaring The Media An Enemy: "That's How Dictators Get Started"

Amen, John! The problem is - Trump doesn't know anything about history. He may not even know how Hitler started. It's scary...

Like Lincoln?

 

[Pogo]

Is someone suppressing the media?

Have a look around the titles in this forum.

 

[JQPublic1]

Dictators start by supressing the media. Very true.

The problem here with the asinine talking point though is that Trump has done exactly noting to suppress the media one iota. The Media is as free today as it has been over the last few decades.

But Trump is a liar and his lies have become the alt Right gospel. When he declares news he doesn't like fake news, regardless of how true it is, his faithful zombies
shake their heads up and down in unison, expressing unabashed agreement. That is horrifying... It is as if he has cast a spell over his loyal fans and can do no wrong in their eyes. He could be just pick a female Trump bot out of the crowd , pull down her panties , bend her over and hump her right n the middle of Madison Square Garden and his constituents wouldn't care. And she would probably be smiling the whole time and giving the onlookers a thumbs up.

So they are just like the partisan hacks that have been rooting for their guy since the beginning of politics. Obama has the same sycophantic followers. The only real difference now is that Trump is a lot more crass.

Obama wasn't a populist that appealed primarily to one segment of the US population like Trump does.Trump champions the angry White male .most of whom voted overwhelmingly against Obama in both of his successful elections. Although RW rhetoric declares falsely that Obama was the most divisive president in US history, the diversity of Obama's base contradicts that biased premise soundly. Trump's hegemonic populism has already proved to be far more divisive along racial lines than Obama's "hope and change " platform ever was. Obama didn't have followers like Trump does. He had admirers who looked through all the negative propaganda and obstructionism launched against him by konservatives, the same clowns who nearly caused the US economy to crash. Still, Obama's presidency could not have survived if he had said the things Trump has or if he had staffed his cabinet with an all black cast.

 

[Avatar4321]

What is worse, a president criticizing the press or the press fawning over the president afraid to ask any hard questions?

The press has been all over Trump. Lots of negative stories and they run 24/7. He goes right back at them.

To bad they weren't all over Obama. An Obama they had an affair with. An Obama they never bothered to investigate. An Obama the LSM was okay with no matter what he did or said.

I'd say the MSM should get back to being honest and report stories honestly.

I won't be holding my breath.

But how can the press be all over trump if they are being suppressed?

 

[TheDude]

If I were the OP I'd leave the country. Let's be honest, Trump is the dictator, gestapo, pussing-grabbing nut-bag he describes, and Trump is coming after his kind.

 

[FA_Q2]

Dictators start by supressing the media. Very true.

The problem here with the asinine talking point though is that Trump has done exactly noting to suppress the media one iota. The Media is as free today as it has been over the last few decades.

But Trump is a liar and his lies have become the alt Right gospel. When he declares news he doesn't like fake news, regardless of how true it is, his faithful zombies
shake their heads up and down in unison, expressing unabashed agreement. That is horrifying... It is as if he has cast a spell over his loyal fans and can do no wrong in their eyes. He could be just pick a female Trump bot out of the crowd , pull down her panties , bend her over and hump her right n the middle of Madison Square Garden and his constituents wouldn't care. And she would probably be smiling the whole time and giving the onlookers a thumbs up.

So they are just like the partisan hacks that have been rooting for their guy since the beginning of politics. Obama has the same sycophantic followers. The only real difference now is that Trump is a lot more crass.

Obama wasn't a populist that appealed primarily to one segment of the US population like Trump does.Trump champions the angry White male .most of whom voted overwhelmingly against Obama in both of his successful elections.

That is the running talking point, yes. It is bullshit though. It is interesting that Trump through all the rhetoric manages to make gains on Romney with minorities. The continual denigration of anyone that supports Trump is not going to work if the democrats really want to make gains in 2018.

Although RW rhetoric declares falsely that Obama was the most divisive president in US history, the diversity of Obama's base contradicts that biased premise soundly.

No, it does not but then again the divisiveness that has been growing ios not one of skin color. It is more telling that seems to be all you base divisiveness on rather than what is dividing the country right now - ideology.

Obama was extremely divisive and the breakdown of our political system is proof positive of that fact.

Trump's hegemonic populism has already proved to be far more divisive along racial lines than Obama's "hope and change " platform ever was. Obama didn't have followers like Trump does. He had admirers who looked through all the negative propaganda and obstructionism launched against him by konservatives, the same clowns who nearly caused the US economy to crash. Still, Obama's presidency could not have survived if he had said the things Trump has or if he had staffed his cabinet with an all black cast.

Yes, Obama quite clearly did have followers like Trump. The difference here is that you seem to agree with them so it is suddenly just fine. You even identify yourself as one by saying things like konservatives, blaming the economic crash on a single side of the isle and "if he had staffed his cabinet with an all black cast" which makes no sense at all because it has nothing to do with Trumps cabinet picks.

 

[P@triot]

Indeed Lakhota - dictators do start by suppressing the media. Which is what made marxist Obama really dangerous and why the American people are so relieved that President Trump now sits in the Oval Office.

Phone Records of Journalists of The Associated Press Seized by U.S.

 

[P@triot]

Indeed Lakhota - dictators do start by suppressing the media. Which is what made marxist Obama really dangerous and why the American people are so relieved that President Trump now sits in the Oval Office.

Sharyl Attkisson releases video of apparent computer hack

Sharyl Attkisson sues administration over computer hacking

Reporter Sharyl Attkisson says feds hacked computer, CBS protected Obama

Sharyl Attkisson seeks $35M from Obama administration in alleged hacking

 

[Pogo]

Indeed Lakhota - dictators do start by suppressing the media. Which is what made marxist Obama really dangerous and why the American people are so relieved that President Trump now sits in the Oval Office.

Phone Records of Journalists of The Associated Press Seized by U.S.

"Relieved" is it?

​

How do you spell 'relief', Buttsoiler?

Apparently on Buttsoiler's planet a government hacking in to snoop on journalists is a big deal, while a foreign government hacking into a national election and streaming it publicly, is "fake news".

 

[JQPublic1]

Dictators start by supressing the media. Very true.

The problem here with the asinine talking point though is that Trump has done exactly noting to suppress the media one iota. The Media is as free today as it has been over the last few decades.

But Trump is a liar and his lies have become the alt Right gospel. When he declares news he doesn't like fake news, regardless of how true it is, his faithful zombies
shake their heads up and down in unison, expressing unabashed agreement. That is horrifying... It is as if he has cast a spell over his loyal fans and can do no wrong in their eyes. He could be just pick a female Trump bot out of the crowd , pull down her panties , bend her over and hump her right n the middle of Madison Square Garden and his constituents wouldn't care. And she would probably be smiling the whole time and giving the onlookers a thumbs up.

So they are just like the partisan hacks that have been rooting for their guy since the beginning of politics. Obama has the same sycophantic followers. The only real difference now is that Trump is a lot more crass.

Obama wasn't a populist that appealed primarily to one segment of the US population like Trump does.Trump champions the angry White male .most of whom voted overwhelmingly against Obama in both of his successful elections.

That is the running talking point, yes. It is bullshit though. It is interesting that Trump through all the rhetoric manages to make gains on Romney with minorities. The continual denigration of anyone that supports Trump is not going to work if the democrats really want to make gains in 2018.

There is no bullshit in the statistics showing Trump got most of the White vote and it is no secret that his "birther" campaign earned hi a soft spot in the hearts and minds of RW White males. And yes, I hear that more Blacks and women jumped on the Trump train than they did on the Romney shuttle but that difference was based on chicanery. THe cagtalyst that put Trump over the top was voter suppression, the destruction of Hillary's campaign by the Russian hack squad, and the FBI's timely announcement on the eve of the election that more investigations of Hillary were imminent. That might have been enough to sway former Obama supporters to Trump’s side. Plus, the thousands of voters illegally disenfranchised by Cross Check also factored in Trump’s success!

Although RW rhetoric declares falsely that Obama was the most divisive president in US history, the diversity of Obama's base contradicts that biased premise soundly.

No, it does not but then again the divisiveness that has been growing ios not one of skin color. It is more telling that seems to be all you base divisiveness on rather than what is dividing the country right now - ideology.

Obama was extremely divisive and the breakdown of our political system is proof positive of that fact.

hegemonic populism has already proved to be far more divisive along racial lines than Obama's "hope and change " platform ever was. Obama didn't have followers like Trump does. He had admirers who looked through all the negative propaganda and obstructionism launched against him by konservatives, the same clowns who nearly caused the US economy to crash. Still, Obama's presidency could not have survived if he had said the things Trump has or if he had staffed his cabinet with an all black cast.

Obama quite clearly did have followers like Trump. The difference here is that you seem to agree with them so it is suddenly just fine. You even identify yourself as one by saying things like konservatives, blaming the economic crash on a single side of the isle and "if he had staffed his cabinet with an all black cast" which makes no sense at all because it has nothing to do with Trumps cabinet picks.

FOLLOWERS:

The term "followers" is too ambiguous when using the term to describe people who voted for Obama. They voted for him twice but pulled the democrat political support base from under him after his first two years. What kind of followers would do that? They seemed to throw him to the wolves when they turned the keys to the bank over to the GOP tea party obstructionists. Trump, OTOH, has followers who have abandoned their pseudo-conservative values to become konservatives, As I mentoined earlier, Trump can say or do anything and his Trump-Bots don’t care.
They even looked the other way when he publicly defended Russia over America on the Bill O'rielly Show

Obama's presidential inheritance vs Trump's presidential inheritance:

AN economic disruption or crash that occurs in the last days or year of a departing president’s term is credited to him, not the incoming president. Bush’s tax cuts while starting to wars, all simultaneously, was huge in creating the economic crisis that followed..OBama left Trump with a healthy economy just as Clinton left Bush with one. i'll bet you a dozen doughnuts Trump will leave the economy in shambles too if he follows GOP strategies.

NOW THIS:
When you cite me don’t chop up my sentences and then claim I am not making sense. I said THIS:

"Still, Obama's presidency could not have survived if he had said the things Trump has or if he had staffed his cabinet with an all black cast.” And that statement was referring to the context of our original discussion comparing Trump’s divisiveness against Obama’s alleged divisiveness. Ben Carson is the lone Black person in Trump’s cabinet choices thus far and he is ill suited for the task, Several Cabinet picks, like Bannon and especially Jeff Sessions, have such sordid racial histories that, choosing either of them would be analogous to Obama choosing Louis Farrakhan and all the other Black political figures you hate so much!

Don't get stupid on me... I've had more than my share of encounters with RW sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity!

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Don't get stupid on me... I've had more than my share of encounters with RW sincere ignorance and conscientious stupidity!

Who needs to...you got stupid on yourself.