Maxine's Question of the Day

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    Let me get this straight. We're going to be "gifted" with a health care plan we are forced to purchase and fined if we don't, written by a committee whose chairman says he doesn't understand it, passed by a Congress that hasn't read it but exempts themselves from it, to be signed by a president who also smokes, with funding administered by a treasury chief who
    didn't pay his taxes, to be overseen by a surgeon general who is obese, and financed by a country that's broke.
    What the hell could possibly go wrong?
     
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    That's great.

    Here's Surgeon General Benjamin in case anyone missed the reference:
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    While researching this "medical care" mess, I discovered "the Committee" that is in charge of reviewing everyone's medical files and care has been given unbridled liberties to medically experiment on patients.

    The law states that any person subjected to such experiments must give informed consent. The law also details exactly what "informed consent" is. Now, however, all care is withheld from Patients who refuse to sign. Worse, most Patients have such trust in hospitals and clinics giving them paperwork to sign that isn't contrary to their wellbeing, that most simply sign without reading any of it. One step further, the government actually changed the wording that can be used. The word "experiment" was substituted with the term "Coverage with Evidence Development".

    The Committee actually once referenced the US Medicare webpage that gives them the legal right to do all this. To their dismay a lawsuit was filed in behalf of Patients, so Medicare and the Committee had to scramble to tone down the outcry. Now several of the Medicare webpages that references the atrocities those committee goons are allowed to execute on innocent and unsuspecting Patients have been removed from the Medicare site complete with a short statement saying it had been removed.

    As more and more Medical professionals were reading and questioning this mess, and passing the links on to their Patients, Obama's claim of "transparency" changed radically.

    Remember this, folks. medicare is not free. You paid for it through your wages, and you pay a monthly fee now for what you were told is "medical care". They are taking the money, not providing real medical care, and killing off the patients. They are formulating tables that will tell the committee how long you are supposed to live given the medical problem you have.

    Nobody is getting what they paid for and are paying for. This situation with it's bells and whistles, is a deadly fraud.

    Massive public outcry is needed, and anyone holding a Medicare Card should think about dis-enrolling and getting out of that system NOW. Obama and his "committee" have cut deals with insurance companies not to insure anyone who dis-enrolls from Medicare. One such company is Blue Cross Blue Shield and their subsidiaries. Blue Cross sits on Obama's advisory committee. The Baylor Hospital system was also mentioned as a participating goon in this Medicare fraud, and in other past government atrocities as well. Everyone needs to check every hospital in their area and determine now which hospitals are going along with Obama and stay out of those places.

    Your local County hospital district can and will treat your medical needs, and in many communities Doctors and their Nurses are setting up free clinics to assist and treat everyone who has been victimized by this Obama fraud. This Medicare mess is NOT medical care. Know this. It's a death trap.

    I can tell you for a fact, Doctors are NOT going to allow Obama or a whole herd of Obamas to harm their patients. American Doctors have long been providing free care, treatment and surgery to needy patients in other countries and now it's time they stepped up to the plate for Americans.

    We live in a time when every citizen must research, share their knowledge and do background checks on every single person in public office or running for office. Don't give your votes to the Goon Squad.
     
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    Which committee would that be?
     
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    Anyone ever listen to cspan, I often hear people call in and praise the new healthcare plan for those in need and especially for children. Great thing these normal people did in spite of great odds, and corporate power and corporate tools, fighting positive change all the way. Hard stuff is never easy.


    "Christianity has not been tried and found wanting; it has been found difficult and not tried." Gilbert K. Chesterton
     
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    Yes, the CSPAN call in number, that's the number that only Nancy Pelosi knows right? How about all the people that isn't going to be able to afford health care anymore because the rates have increased massively and now have to pay 2.5% of their income as a penalty for not having insurance? Sounds like a damned if you do damned if you don't scenario to me. :cuckoo:
     
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    If this ObamaCare bullshit was such a great thing for America, how come McDonald's says they can't afford it and have gotten a one-year extension prior to having to enroll their worker bees into it? What was that I heard about if you like your present insurance and doctor you could keep it? BULLSHIT.
     
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    Why is two thumbs posting 'Maxine's Question of the Day'?

    Did someone forget which sock they were wearing?
     
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    Often when reading history you have to wonder how sensible pragmatic change ever happens. Entrenched interests fight anything they see as eating into their positions of power or profit. This excerpt below is from 1995. The Rhetoric of Reaction - Albert O. Hirschman - Harvard University Press

    The only consistent aspect of any of this is the response from the right wing conservatives or libertarians. They have been brainwashed well.


    "...Reform is back, but with congressional Republicans working to balance the federal budget on the backs of seniors and the poor, it has a new and vicious twist.

    In late June, Congress passed a budget resolution calling for one trillion dollars in federal spending cuts over seven years (along with a $245 billion tax cut, most of which will be targeted to corporations and wealthy individuals). The lion's share of the spending cuts will come from reductions in the rate of projected growth in Medicare and Medicaid -- $452 billion over seven years....

    The plan reflects a fantasy shared by majorities in both parties -- that Medicare and Medicaid are inefficient "government programs" that can be fixed in isolation from the rest of the health-care economy. That fantasy rests on the myth that the "private sector" is inherently more efficient and fair than government. When it comes to health care, there simply is no evidence to support this belief. Medicare, for example, spends 2-4 percent of each premium dollar on its own bureaucracy. The corporate HMOs who stand to gain millions of patients from the privatization of Medicare frequently grab more than 20 cents on the premium dollar for overhead and profit...."

    A Rational Option by John Canham-Clyne Boston Review: A Rational Option for National Health Care
     
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    If the goal was to create insurance coverage for the 30 million uninsured that they could purchase, why didn't they just create insurance coverage for the 30 million uninsured to purchase?

    You know. Like flood insurance. It's too risky for a Private company to issue policies at affordable rates, so the government underwrites them. No difference in the sense of dollars between health insurance and flood insurance, except there are so many more dollars to steal from health insurance. The greedy vultures in our leadership roles just couldn't resist.

    A model is already there. It's a program that works. It's so successful that nobody ever hears about it because it works. The difference is that the people in government aren't getting rich because of it.

    The Healthcare Reform is obviously a swindle and those who voted for it are either thieves or ashamed.

    The link to the Flood insurance is below.

    FEMA: The National Flood Insurance Program
     

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