Martha McSally is still telling people she voted to protect people with pre-existing conditions

[Paul Motter]

There was other bills that she voted for concerning healthcare. The ACAH was just the first one. A subsequent one allowed for cross-state competition so people with pre-existing conditions could form pools and bring costs down. It was a simple solution that is so logical it should have been in the ACA, but it wasn't because the Health Insurance companies wrote the ACA bill.

 

[dblack]

What it needs is bi-partisan support to make it the very best it can be.

The very best it can be is repealed. Unless you have a lot of stock in insurance companies. Is that your angle?

 

[Sun Devil 92]

Thank you for reminding us you made a career of screwing people over.

...and thank you for reminding us that your plan for health care reform is for poor, unemployed people to die.

Yes, that has always been the plan.

Except that no such plan exists.

You clowns have been citing that stupid Harvard study for fifteen years and still have failed to produce anything close to the number of corpses you said we produce.

Thanks for reminding us you somehow see yourself doing penance for all those people you made miserable.

No penance necessary. You and Trump are both deliriously happy with underwriters denying insurance to people. Given enough time, between you and him, you will resurrect underwriting, and I can hire myself out as a consultant to those companies who have lost touch with how to tell people, "no".

Actually, you have no idea about my feelings towards health care.

And thanks for, again, admitting you were someone who worked for the evil side of insurance.

Nobody knows what you and the rest of the GOP think about health insurance, other than the fact that you have yours, and to hell with everybody else.

This is what outs you as a true left winger.

You need to have something to argue against that is clean and ignores the reality of life.

So you "just know" what people are thinking or what they want.

In reality, you have no clue.

You are the classic combination of arrogance and ignorance.

Or can you show me where I said to hell with everyone else ?

No...you can't.

But you just know.

No wonder you guys keep losing.

 

[Lakhota]

What it needs is bi-partisan support to make it the very best it can be.

The very best it can be is repealed. Unless you have a lot of stock in insurance companies. Is that your angle?

Really? And replace it with what? Please enlighten us...

 

[Sun Devil 92]

The GOP is the only thing standing between the socialism and this country.

Fortunately, we seem to be able to get the votes in the right places.

You guys are losers.

 

[dblack]

What it needs is bi-partisan support to make it the very best it can be.

The very best it can be is repealed. Unless you have a lot of stock in insurance companies. Is that your angle?

Really? And replace it with what? Please enlighten us...

Replace it with nothing. And then start busting up all the ill-conceived tax and regulatory policies that painted us into this corner in the first place.

 

[Vandalshandle]

She voted to repeal obamacare. That's good enough. Democrats don't realize how many people want that POS over.

Since January 20, 2017 not one single politician has voted to repeal ObamaCare.

You have been hoaxed.

Republicans voted MULTIPLE times to repeal Obamacare when Obama was President, but they have since proved they were hoaxing you, because they have not put up one single actual repeal bill since winning the entire government.

And you STILL haven't caught on. You deserve to be lied to.

No, they are just systematically defunding it, which is, of course, the same thing as repealing it.

 

[Oddball]

Really? And replace it with what? Please enlighten us...

What do you replace a tumor with?.....NOTHING!

 

[Vandalshandle]

...and thank you for reminding us that your plan for health care reform is for poor, unemployed people to die.

Yes, that has always been the plan.

Except that no such plan exists.

You clowns have been citing that stupid Harvard study for fifteen years and still have failed to produce anything close to the number of corpses you said we produce.

Thanks for reminding us you somehow see yourself doing penance for all those people you made miserable.

No penance necessary. You and Trump are both deliriously happy with underwriters denying insurance to people. Given enough time, between you and him, you will resurrect underwriting, and I can hire myself out as a consultant to those companies who have lost touch with how to tell people, "no".

Actually, you have no idea about my feelings towards health care.

And thanks for, again, admitting you were someone who worked for the evil side of insurance.

Nobody knows what you and the rest of the GOP think about health insurance, other than the fact that you have yours, and to hell with everybody else.

This is what outs you as a true left winger.

You need to have something to argue against that is clean and ignores the reality of life.

So you "just know" what people are thinking or what they want.

In reality, you have no clue.

You are the classic combination of arrogance and ignorance.

Or can you show me where I said to hell with everyone else ?

No...you can't.

But you just know.

No wonder you guys keep losing.

...and, again, we have no clue of the GOP health proposal, because they have none.

 

[Vandalshandle]

Really? And replace it with what? Please enlighten us...

What do you replace a tumor with?.....NOTHING!

So you want to do away with Medicare, too.

Welcome to my list of nuts whose posts are also invisible to me.

 

[Oddball]

So you want to do away with Medicare, too.

Welcome to my list of nuts whose posts are also invisible to me.

Fuck yeah...Let's go back to the days when doctors made house calls.

And if you can't hang with the debate on that point, you're a bigger pussy than any RINO republican.

 

[Lakhota]

She voted to repeal obamacare. That's good enough. Democrats don't realize how many people want that POS over.

Since January 20, 2017 not one single politician has voted to repeal ObamaCare.

You have been hoaxed.

Republicans voted MULTIPLE times to repeal Obamacare when Obama was President, but they have since proved they were hoaxing you, because they have not put up one single actual repeal bill since winning the entire government.

And you STILL haven't caught on. You deserve to be lied to.

No, they are just systematically defunding it, which is, of course, the same thing as repealing it.

Thank you. It's nice to have some sanity on this thread instead of ignorant trolls.

 

[OKTexas]

Lots of Republicans have made egregiously dishonest statements about health care in the last few weeks. But few have done so with the aplomb of Martha McSally, Republican candidate for Senate in Arizona.

She has done it in her advertisements. She has done it in televised debates. And now she is doing in meetings with voters.

A new video from American Bridge, a liberal political action committee, captured McSally speaking with attendees ― including one who asked about McSally’s 2017 vote to take away protections for people with pre-existing conditions.

“I did not,” McSally says. “That’s a lie. I voted to protect them.”

McSally, of course, is the one who isn’t telling the truth.

McSally is currently a member of the U.S. House of Representatives. And in 2017, she voted yes on the American Health Care Act, the GOP bill to repeal the Affordable Care Act.

And so rather that defend her vote, McSally is trying to mislead voters about what that vote meant. It’s the same thing happening all over the country, in contests just like this, and it probably won’t stop until Election Day.

An Embattled GOP Senate Candidate Is Lying About Her Health Care Record -- Again

McSally isn't the only GOP candidate lying about protecting pre-existing conditions.

FACT CHECK: Republican Candidates are Lying About Protecting Pre-existing Conditions

How about you tell the class If McSally voted in committee on any bill/s concerning preexisting conditions. I'm sure your left wing hate site didn't bother to check.

.

 

[Oddball]

Thank you. It's nice to have some sanity on this thread instead of ignorant trolls.

Booooohoooo.

You have zero room to go around accusing anyone of being ignorant, when you're as economically illiterate as they come.

Now, name the time when adding bureaucracy and middlemen ever brought down the cost of anything...C'mon, dazzle us with your brilliance.

 

[frigidweirdo]

She voted to repeal obamacare. That's good enough. Democrats don't realize how many people want that POS over.

Many people don't realize WHY they want Obamacare over.

Ah, they'll spout anything. They'll claim Obamacare made healthcare more expensive, it didn't. The increase in healthcare costs under Obama were LOWER than they were under Bush.

Most people who want an end to Obamacare want it to end because this is what they're been told to think. Nothing else. They don't understand why.

 

[dblack]

What it needs is bi-partisan support to make it the very best it can be.

The very best it can be is repealed. Unless you have a lot of stock in insurance companies. Is that your angle?

Really? And replace it with what? Please enlighten us...

Replace it with nothing. And then start busting up all the ill-conceived tax and regulatory policies that painted us into this corner in the first place.

Seriously, employer-provided health care was a bad idea. The dilemma of being trapped at a job because of the dependency on health insurance isn't an unfortunate side-effect. It's the fucking point. It's why employers and government have colluded to create the system in the first place. We need to tear it down and deal with the fact that we have to provide for our own health care, just like we provide for our other needs. The desperate desire to have someone else pay the bills is turning us into slaves.

 

[Vandalshandle]

What it needs is bi-partisan support to make it the very best it can be.

The very best it can be is repealed. Unless you have a lot of stock in insurance companies. Is that your angle?

Really? And replace it with what? Please enlighten us...

Replace it with nothing. And then start busting up all the ill-conceived tax and regulatory policies that painted us into this corner in the first place.

Seriously, employer-provided health care was a bad idea. The dilemma of being trapped at a job because of the dependency on health insurance isn't an unfortunate side-effect. It's the fucking point. It's why employers and government have colluded to create the system in the first place. We need to tear it down and deal with the fact that we have to provide for our own health care, just like we provide for our other needs. The desperate desire to have someone else pay the bills is turning us into slaves.

A heart/lung transplant costs over $3,000,000. Nine months of fighting leukemia would cost you more than you 30 year mortgage. So will open heart surgery.

 

[g5000]

She voted to repeal obamacare. That's good enough. Democrats don't realize how many people want that POS over.

Since January 20, 2017 not one single politician has voted to repeal ObamaCare.

You have been hoaxed.

Republicans voted MULTIPLE times to repeal Obamacare when Obama was President, but they have since proved they were hoaxing you, because they have not put up one single actual repeal bill since winning the entire government.

And you STILL haven't caught on. You deserve to be lied to.

No, they are just systematically defunding it, which is, of course, the same thing as repealing it.

The rubes have been told the Republicans voted to repeal ObamaCare since taking over the entire government.

They haven't. That's a fact. A very important one. There has not been a single bill to repeal ObamaCare since Trump was sworn in. Not a single one.


It is important that the Trumpies realize they have been hoaxed for the past EIGHT years.

 

[Vandalshandle]

She voted to repeal obamacare. That's good enough. Democrats don't realize how many people want that POS over.

Since January 20, 2017 not one single politician has voted to repeal ObamaCare.

You have been hoaxed.

Republicans voted MULTIPLE times to repeal Obamacare when Obama was President, but they have since proved they were hoaxing you, because they have not put up one single actual repeal bill since winning the entire government.

And you STILL haven't caught on. You deserve to be lied to.

No, they are just systematically defunding it, which is, of course, the same thing as repealing it.

The rubes have been told the Republicans voted to repeal ObamaCare since taking over the entire government.

They haven't. That's a fact. A very important one. There has not been a single bill to repeal ObamaCare since Trump was sworn in. Not a single one.


It is important that the Trumpies realize they have been hoaxed for the past EIGHT years.

I understand how you can claim that the republicans have not voted to end PE condition limitations, even though they are defunding ACA, which is the same thing. That is what we call a "Trumpism". It is like cutting the military budget to zero, while claiming that you did not abolish the military. I understand how you can use Trumpisms, and think that they make sense. However, Trumpisms don't work with democrats. They only work with Trump supporters.

 

[dblack]

What it needs is bi-partisan support to make it the very best it can be.

The very best it can be is repealed. Unless you have a lot of stock in insurance companies. Is that your angle?

Really? And replace it with what? Please enlighten us...

Replace it with nothing. And then start busting up all the ill-conceived tax and regulatory policies that painted us into this corner in the first place.

Seriously, employer-provided health care was a bad idea. The dilemma of being trapped at a job because of the dependency on health insurance isn't an unfortunate side-effect. It's the fucking point. It's why employers and government have colluded to create the system in the first place. We need to tear it down and deal with the fact that we have to provide for our own health care, just like we provide for our other needs. The desperate desire to have someone else pay the bills is turning us into slaves.

A heart/lung transplant costs over $3,000,000. Nine months of fighting leukemia would cost you more than you 30 year mortgage. So will open heart surgery.

Yes. Those are things most of us can't afford. Most of us won't get them. Just like most of us won't own a mansion or a yacht. Your point?