Marijuana and the definition of conservative

You called yourself a "conservative" not a Conservative.

The former has no relation to the latter except in spelling.

Explain the difference.
Conservatives know the difference.
"conservatives" do not have sufficient self awareness to comprehend the conflict between their day to day words and actions and the Ideology they purport to be supporting.

I'm conservative and I don't know the difference - because there's no such thing as a Conservative. There are republicans and Republicans and there are democrats and Democrats. But the problem is, there's no group that has the proper name of Conservative. If you know of one, then quit avoiding answering the question and tell us.
The exact answer one expects from a "conservative."
He doesn't know a thing about Conservatives so he conflates them with other groups.
There used to be Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal Democrats and Republicans.
There has not been a Conservative president since Gerald Ford.
Harry Truman would have been the last Democratic Conservative to be President.
Following the Southern Plan
Republicans recruited Democrats unhappy with the Liberalism of the Democratic party toward race.
Then the anti-abortion crowd, anti-vax, anti-science, gunners and thus the growing stupification and dishonesty of the GOP.
These people have no idea of what Republican philosophy is but they call themselves "conservative" so the GOP became conflated with political stupidity.
Your doing

BUT

If you don't know why MTG and BoBo are not Conservatives that, my tiny brained "conservative" is entirely on you.
Of course throw attacks rather than answer the question. You can't explain it because there's no such thing as Conservatives.

You're problem is that you're ingorant and do not understand the English language.

Proper Noun:
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noun A noun belonging to the class of words used as names for unique individuals, events, or places.

from Wiktionary, Creative Commons Attribution/Share-Alike License.

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noun a noun that denotes a particular thing; usually capitalized
 
The exact answer one expects from a "conservative."
He doesn't know a thing about Conservatives so he conflates them with other groups.
There used to be Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal Democrats and Republicans.

There used to be conservative, moderate, and liberal Democrats. There might also have been Conservative-Democrats but no group referred to themselves as any proper, formalized, unique group. Conservative, moderate, and liberal, as you used them are called adjectives; those are words that qualify or mark up other words. As I used it creates a compound word, thus the hyphen, and doesn't make sense without the Democrats. Actually the word conservative doesn't make sense along with the word Democrat in any sense or case but that's a different argument.

There has not been a Conservative president since Gerald Ford.
No; there has not been a conservative president since Donald Trump. Gerald ford was never conservative and adjectives do not get capitalized.
Harry Truman would have been the last Democratic Conservative to be President.
No; Harry Truman may have been the last democratic-conservative to be president. You might even argue that he was the last democratic conservative, but you really don't understand at all the proper use of proper nouns.

You might argue that President Truman was a democratic-conservative but Harry Truman wasn't President; he was president. President is properly capitalized when used as a proper noun as a title and not capitalized when used as the name of an office of government. You could say President Truman was president from 1945 to 1953. Far more interesting and exciting, though, is that President Trump was president from 2017 to 2021 and will be again from 2025 to 2029.

Following the Southern Plan
If the title of the plan is The Southern Plan, then you can follow The Southern Plan. If the title of the plan is Southern Plan, then you can follow the Southern Plan; so you basically got this one right. In both cases, Southern is part of the title just as the word President is part of the title when you say, "I love President Trump." (Go ahead. Try saying it and see how sweetly it rolls across your lips.)

Republicans recruited Democrats unhappy with the Liberalism of the Democratic party toward race.
Well, this one's just silly. We all know that the Republicans did not recruit Democrats unhappy with the liberalism of the Democratic Party - unless, by liberalism, you mean the Democrat's hatred for black people.

Liberalism is a political philosophy. When talking about a list of political philosophies, one could make an argument that liberalism is a unique entity within that framework and might be capitalized but you would be hard pressed to find a single modern scholarly writing doing that.

Then the anti-abortion crowd, anti-vax, anti-science, gunners and thus the growing stupification and dishonesty of the GOP.
Why aren't all these adjectives capitalized? Do you only capitalize the honest ones? That would explain these, being lesser because dishonesty is always less than honesty, being not capitalized when you capitalize so many other adjectives.

These people have no idea of what Republican philosophy is but they call themselves "conservative" so the GOP became conflated with political stupidity.

Your doing
Don't know what you edited here but you missed two words.
BUT

If you don't know why MTG and BoBo are not Conservatives that, my tiny brained "conservative" is entirely on you.

Your mistake is that you, somewhere, saw someone say little 'r' republican versus big 'R' Republican and you thought that could apply to any adjective. It doesn't.

A little 'r' republican is someone who believes in or supports a republican form of government - as is the United States and also each and every individual state. A big 'R' Republican is a person who is registered as, or at least supports, the Republican Party. The Republican Party is a specific instance of a thing; an actual entity. Its name is a proper noun so it is capitalized.

A little 'd' democrat is someone who believes in or supports a democratic form of government - i.e. majority rules or at least majority elects the leaders. A big 'D' Democrat is someone who believes that black children should not have the option to select or go to the best schools; those schools being reserved for the children of big 'D' Democrat leaders and donors.

Now that I've educated you, once again, please tell me what a Conservative is and what is the difference between a Conservative and a conservative.
 
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A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....
Just make sure warnings come with usage.
And imprison anyone who subjects another to their pot use while in public or involving another’s property…




At some point, just parroting these endless taxpayer funded fear pieces should succumb to the actual lives you observe.

Mick Jagger - major life long marijuana user - singing and dancing in his late 70s.... Major talent.
Willie Nelson - well, can't dance but the rest is the same
Michael phelps - world's greatest ever swimmer, bong user.
Josh Gordon - played NFL WR at HOF level while consuming marijuana regularly


Government lies.

It lies to scare people out of rights and wealth and freedom.

Marijuana is exhibit A of that truth

Do some unbiased research into marijuana, don't just look for what you are desperate to find.

Yeah, what can go wrong with a little marijuana use?

Drugs-S.gif


You did a reefer madness there.

Post the marijuana death stats..

Lol


There aren't any. You just posted a photo of someone in serious condition.

Marijuana PROHIBITION causes thousand fold more deaths than marijuana.

Their blood is on your beak, birdbrained liar....



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Since marijuana itself is so non-toxic that it kills nobody, what they are now doing is blaming all traffic fatalities on marijuana when it is discovered in the autopsy. Is that science? No. That is not proof of what caused the accident.

The other driver
A ringing cellphone
Bad road conditions
Driver has bad eyes and should not have a license

Those are not considered because the objective is not science,it is to blame reefer without proving reefer was the cause.

If marijuana "impairs," how did josh Gordon catch all those passes in the NFL?

As with algore's fraud, the taxpayer pays liars to fudge studies to align the message with the cause.

All traffic accidents are now because of pot... Never mind the other driver was over the median line and the car driven by someone with marijuana in his system was 100% safe and legal when the other car hit it....


Just FOAD liar. You're propaganda ain't selling in the medical community. They've pulled bodies out of cars with 38 times the legal limit for THC, now why don't you lie again and tell us that's not enough for impairment. You're just a fucking joke like the other stoner.

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If you drink 38 times the recommended dose of cough syrup, you likely are not fit to drive either. The decision to start your car and drive is your decision. You need to assess whether or not you are impaired. It is, of course, the jackasses who drive at 0.5 and wreck. That is not the fault of the majority of people who respsonsibly consume alcohol and know not to drive when impaired.

The difference,of course, is that Josh Gordon would not have 200 receiving yards and 3 TDs if he drank before the game. Instead, he toked, and proved to every sane human with an IQ over 5 that he was not impaired.

It is a tribute to just how relatively harmless marijuana is that your pathetically dishonest and hateful side has to stoop to 38 times the normal dose to document impairment.....

You never get to 38 times on alcohol, because at 10 times, you die...

If marijuana did not interfere with Josh Gordon's playing football, why is he not playing today?

How long before a game would he get stoned? If not long, just think how much better he'd have played and he'd still be playing.

Yes, I see your point now. Marijuana obviously had no influence on his career.

Got it!

Josh Gordon's dominant years were early in his career when he was healthy and young. Gordon came out in the Supplemental Draft because he kept failing Baylor reefer tests. Did the same in the NFL. When he got on the field, he dominated.

He is reinstated again, but he is old, injured, and taking more than reefer for his pain, a typical ending of an NFL career.

No question he would be canton bound if the NFL had not suspended him as a brown for reefer only.

Don't know when he toked, but to argue he would be "better" is the same BS with Michael phelps. There is no evidence of that other than pot haters insisting bullshit is true because they are the beaked birdbrains parroting it.

Josh Gordon and Michael phelps were both THE BEST.

And pot haters HATE that truth....

Why THANK YOU!

You were kind enough to take an entire post to prove the fall of a top athlete due to the use of Marijuana.

Let me get this straight. I post the truth about Marijuana. You post the same thing but you LOVE getting stoned and I'M a hater.
 
A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....
Just make sure warnings come with usage.
And imprison anyone who subjects another to their pot use while in public or involving another’s property…




At some point, just parroting these endless taxpayer funded fear pieces should succumb to the actual lives you observe.

Mick Jagger - major life long marijuana user - singing and dancing in his late 70s.... Major talent.
Willie Nelson - well, can't dance but the rest is the same
Michael phelps - world's greatest ever swimmer, bong user.
Josh Gordon - played NFL WR at HOF level while consuming marijuana regularly


Government lies.

It lies to scare people out of rights and wealth and freedom.

Marijuana is exhibit A of that truth

Do some unbiased research into marijuana, don't just look for what you are desperate to find.

Yeah, what can go wrong with a little marijuana use?

Drugs-S.gif


You did a reefer madness there.

Post the marijuana death stats..

Lol


There aren't any. You just posted a photo of someone in serious condition.

Marijuana PROHIBITION causes thousand fold more deaths than marijuana.

Their blood is on your beak, birdbrained liar....



.


Since marijuana itself is so non-toxic that it kills nobody, what they are now doing is blaming all traffic fatalities on marijuana when it is discovered in the autopsy. Is that science? No. That is not proof of what caused the accident.

The other driver
A ringing cellphone
Bad road conditions
Driver has bad eyes and should not have a license

Those are not considered because the objective is not science,it is to blame reefer without proving reefer was the cause.

If marijuana "impairs," how did josh Gordon catch all those passes in the NFL?

As with algore's fraud, the taxpayer pays liars to fudge studies to align the message with the cause.

All traffic accidents are now because of pot... Never mind the other driver was over the median line and the car driven by someone with marijuana in his system was 100% safe and legal when the other car hit it....


Just FOAD liar. You're propaganda ain't selling in the medical community. They've pulled bodies out of cars with 38 times the legal limit for THC, now why don't you lie again and tell us that's not enough for impairment. You're just a fucking joke like the other stoner.

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If you drink 38 times the recommended dose of cough syrup, you likely are not fit to drive either. The decision to start your car and drive is your decision. You need to assess whether or not you are impaired. It is, of course, the jackasses who drive at 0.5 and wreck. That is not the fault of the majority of people who respsonsibly consume alcohol and know not to drive when impaired.

The difference,of course, is that Josh Gordon would not have 200 receiving yards and 3 TDs if he drank before the game. Instead, he toked, and proved to every sane human with an IQ over 5 that he was not impaired.

It is a tribute to just how relatively harmless marijuana is that your pathetically dishonest and hateful side has to stoop to 38 times the normal dose to document impairment.....

You never get to 38 times on alcohol, because at 10 times, you die...

If marijuana did not interfere with Josh Gordon's playing football, why is he not playing today?

How long before a game would he get stoned? If not long, just think how much better he'd have played and he'd still be playing.

Yes, I see your point now. Marijuana obviously had no influence on his career.

Got it!

Josh Gordon's dominant years were early in his career when he was healthy and young. Gordon came out in the Supplemental Draft because he kept failing Baylor reefer tests. Did the same in the NFL. When he got on the field, he dominated.

He is reinstated again, but he is old, injured, and taking more than reefer for his pain, a typical ending of an NFL career.

No question he would be canton bound if the NFL had not suspended him as a brown for reefer only.

Don't know when he toked, but to argue he would be "better" is the same BS with Michael phelps. There is no evidence of that other than pot haters insisting bullshit is true because they are the beaked birdbrains parroting it.

Josh Gordon and Michael phelps were both THE BEST.

And pot haters HATE that truth....

Why THANK YOU!

You were kind enough to take an entire post to prove the fall of a top athlete due to the use of Marijuana.

Let me get this straight. I post the truth about Marijuana. You post the same thing but you LOVE getting stoned and I'M a hater.


What you call "truth" is precisely what a true conservative would tell you not to just accept and parrot and spazz and fill self with fear. A conservative would watch Reefer Madness and ask questions, go observe marijuana use, even sample it to learn. And, viola, the true data outs government "studies" regarding reefer as full of shit, just like the climate "studies."

There are those who think, ask questions, notice inconsistencies and perverted government motives - those are conservatives.

Parrots are not conservatives, first and foremost because they self enslave to really obvious big government propaganda....

Global warming
Pot
Covid
"Islamic" terror


And it is those same parrots who ID as "conservative" who have cheered the destruction of american freedom, solvency, and truth since they took over the GOP in 1998.


Anyone who would call Donald trump a "conservative" clearly has no idea what the word means.....
 
A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....
Just make sure warnings come with usage.
And imprison anyone who subjects another to their pot use while in public or involving another’s property…




At some point, just parroting these endless taxpayer funded fear pieces should succumb to the actual lives you observe.

Mick Jagger - major life long marijuana user - singing and dancing in his late 70s.... Major talent.
Willie Nelson - well, can't dance but the rest is the same
Michael phelps - world's greatest ever swimmer, bong user.
Josh Gordon - played NFL WR at HOF level while consuming marijuana regularly


Government lies.

It lies to scare people out of rights and wealth and freedom.

Marijuana is exhibit A of that truth

Do some unbiased research into marijuana, don't just look for what you are desperate to find.

Yeah, what can go wrong with a little marijuana use?

Drugs-S.gif


You did a reefer madness there.

Post the marijuana death stats..

Lol


There aren't any. You just posted a photo of someone in serious condition.

Marijuana PROHIBITION causes thousand fold more deaths than marijuana.

Their blood is on your beak, birdbrained liar....



.


Since marijuana itself is so non-toxic that it kills nobody, what they are now doing is blaming all traffic fatalities on marijuana when it is discovered in the autopsy. Is that science? No. That is not proof of what caused the accident.

The other driver
A ringing cellphone
Bad road conditions
Driver has bad eyes and should not have a license

Those are not considered because the objective is not science,it is to blame reefer without proving reefer was the cause.

If marijuana "impairs," how did josh Gordon catch all those passes in the NFL?

As with algore's fraud, the taxpayer pays liars to fudge studies to align the message with the cause.

All traffic accidents are now because of pot... Never mind the other driver was over the median line and the car driven by someone with marijuana in his system was 100% safe and legal when the other car hit it....


Just FOAD liar. You're propaganda ain't selling in the medical community. They've pulled bodies out of cars with 38 times the legal limit for THC, now why don't you lie again and tell us that's not enough for impairment. You're just a fucking joke like the other stoner.

.


If you drink 38 times the recommended dose of cough syrup, you likely are not fit to drive either. The decision to start your car and drive is your decision. You need to assess whether or not you are impaired. It is, of course, the jackasses who drive at 0.5 and wreck. That is not the fault of the majority of people who respsonsibly consume alcohol and know not to drive when impaired.

The difference,of course, is that Josh Gordon would not have 200 receiving yards and 3 TDs if he drank before the game. Instead, he toked, and proved to every sane human with an IQ over 5 that he was not impaired.

It is a tribute to just how relatively harmless marijuana is that your pathetically dishonest and hateful side has to stoop to 38 times the normal dose to document impairment.....

You never get to 38 times on alcohol, because at 10 times, you die...

If marijuana did not interfere with Josh Gordon's playing football, why is he not playing today?

How long before a game would he get stoned? If not long, just think how much better he'd have played and he'd still be playing.

Yes, I see your point now. Marijuana obviously had no influence on his career.

Got it!

Josh Gordon's dominant years were early in his career when he was healthy and young. Gordon came out in the Supplemental Draft because he kept failing Baylor reefer tests. Did the same in the NFL. When he got on the field, he dominated.

He is reinstated again, but he is old, injured, and taking more than reefer for his pain, a typical ending of an NFL career.

No question he would be canton bound if the NFL had not suspended him as a brown for reefer only.

Don't know when he toked, but to argue he would be "better" is the same BS with Michael phelps. There is no evidence of that other than pot haters insisting bullshit is true because they are the beaked birdbrains parroting it.

Josh Gordon and Michael phelps were both THE BEST.

And pot haters HATE that truth....

Why THANK YOU!

You were kind enough to take an entire post to prove the fall of a top athlete due to the use of Marijuana.

Let me get this straight. I post the truth about Marijuana. You post the same thing but you LOVE getting stoned and I'M a hater.


What you call "truth" is precisely what a true conservative would tell you not to just accept and parrot and spazz and fill self with fear. A conservative would watch Reefer Madness and ask questions, go observe marijuana use, even sample it to learn. And, viola, the true data outs government "studies" regarding reefer as full of shit, just like the climate "studies."

There are those who think, ask questions, notice inconsistencies and perverted government motives - those are conservatives.

Parrots are not conservatives, first and foremost because they self enslave to really obvious big government propaganda....

Global warming
Pot
Covid
"Islamic" terror


And it is those same parrots who ID as "conservative" who have cheered the destruction of american freedom, solvency, and truth since they took over the GOP in 1998.


Anyone who would call Donald trump a "conservative" clearly has no idea what the word means.....
Still resorting to a seventy year old movie proves, again, that you still have nothing and you keep repeating the same thing.

We understand, just another side effect of drug addiction. Seek help!
 
A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....
Here's what I think. You are a democRat liberal who has tried every drug known to man and some that aren't. When you were coming down from crack and no meth to ease your jones. You blamed conservatives doing what every democrat would do in your place. Good luck with that.
 
A conservative, at least when that word had a real definition, meant being inherently against expanding government power and authority. Conservatism embraces freedom and privacy, and only real threat to others would justify changing and supporting increasing government at the expense of freedom and privacy.

You work a full day. You come home

You have a beer

Or

You have a bong hit


Neither activity would in any way bother a conservative. But here we are with self proclaimed "conservatives" embracing increased government power and authority at the expense of freedom and privacy over ... A plant.

Nice.


The origin of marijuana prohibition is a case study of the truth of conservatism, that big government should not be trusted, and that those in government will lie and spread fear and panic to keep themselves in power. The head of prohibition knew prohibition was going to be repealed (because the church going sub human morons who pushed it had no clue what they were doing, and in the end the American people figured out that al Capone was worse than alcohol). So this guy created a new issue, a new cause, to keep his job and title and budget etc. marijuana was the target. Using American taxdollars, this uber greedy kleptocratic traitor funded the making of mass misinfo about marijuana, most famously the movie Reefer Madness, which many morons still believe. In reality, by pushing marijuana underground, we enriched and empowered criminal elements here and abroad, and packed our prisons with people who are not a threat to society.

The war on marijuana is the epitome of BIG GOVERNMENT using lies, falsehoods, propaganda, and the law to do unreal harm to America and abroad for the sole purpose of enriching and empowering liars in government.

Nobody who opposes total marijuana legalization is in any way a conservative.

The pot haters are classic morons with bird brains filled with falsehoods who want big government to rescue them from the bogeyman.....
Here's what I think. You are a democRat liberal who has tried every drug known to man and some that aren't. When you were coming down from crack and no meth to ease your jones. You blamed conservatives doing what every democrat would do in your place. Good luck with that.


Thanks for self IDing as a sub human incapable of defining

Conservative
Liberal
Libertarian


When you pass third grade, let us know....
 
This is what the sub believes.

A conservative supports government manufacturing lies and fear to expand and empower government, specifically those in government, to inflict massive cost and harm on America over intentional lies.

A liberal apparently is opposed to big government crushing freedom and bilking the taxpayer over lies.

A libertarian is something a sub has no idea. It sounds like liberal, so lump it there, and never do something like look up the definition and learn something....
 
You called yourself a "conservative" not a Conservative.

The former has no relation to the latter except in spelling.

Explain the difference.
Conservatives know the difference.
"conservatives" do not have sufficient self awareness to comprehend the conflict between their day to day words and actions and the Ideology they purport to be supporting.

I'm conservative and I don't know the difference - because there's no such thing as a Conservative. There are republicans and Republicans and there are democrats and Democrats. But the problem is, there's no group that has the proper name of Conservative. If you know of one, then quit avoiding answering the question and tell us.
The exact answer one expects from a "conservative."
He doesn't know a thing about Conservatives so he conflates them with other groups.
There used to be Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal Democrats and Republicans.
There has not been a Conservative president since Gerald Ford.
Harry Truman would have been the last Democratic Conservative to be President.
Following the Southern Plan
Republicans recruited Democrats unhappy with the Liberalism of the Democratic party toward race.
Then the anti-abortion crowd, anti-vax, anti-science, gunners and thus the growing stupification and dishonesty of the GOP.
These people have no idea of what Republican philosophy is but they call themselves "conservative" so the GOP became conflated with political stupidity.
Your doing

BUT

If you don't know why MTG and BoBo are not Conservatives that, my tiny brained "conservative" is entirely on you.
Of course throw attacks rather than answer the question. You can't explain it because there's no such thing as Conservatives.

You're problem is that you're ingorant and do not understand the English language.

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noun a noun that denotes a particular thing; usually capitalized
If you could not discern the difference between yourself and a Conservative by reading the post then you are most certainly a "conservative."
 
The exact answer one expects from a "conservative."
He doesn't know a thing about Conservatives so he conflates them with other groups.
There used to be Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal Democrats and Republicans.

There used to be conservative, moderate, and liberal Democrats. There might also have been Conservative-Democrats but no group referred to themselves as any proper, formalized, unique group. Conservative, moderate, and liberal, as you used them are called adjectives; those are words that qualify or mark up other words. As I used it creates a compound word, thus the hyphen, and doesn't make sense without the Democrats. Actually the word conservative doesn't make sense along with the word Democrat in any sense or case but that's a different argument.

There has not been a Conservative president since Gerald Ford.
No; there has not been a conservative president since Donald Trump. Gerald ford was never conservative and adjectives do not get capitalized.
Harry Truman would have been the last Democratic Conservative to be President.
No; Harry Truman may have been the last democratic-conservative to be president. You might even argue that he was the last democratic conservative, but you really don't understand at all the proper use of proper nouns.

You might argue that President Truman was a democratic-conservative but Harry Truman wasn't President; he was president. President is properly capitalized when used as a proper noun as a title and not capitalized when used as the name of an office of government. You could say President Truman was president from 1945 to 1953. Far more interesting and exciting, though, is that President Trump was president from 2017 to 2021 and will be again from 2025 to 2029.

Following the Southern Plan
If the title of the plan is The Southern Plan, then you can follow The Southern Plan. If the title of the plan is Southern Plan, then you can follow the Southern Plan; so you basically got this one right. In both cases, Southern is part of the title just as the word President is part of the title when you say, "I love President Trump." (Go ahead. Try saying it and see how sweetly it rolls across your lips.)

Republicans recruited Democrats unhappy with the Liberalism of the Democratic party toward race.
Well, this one's just silly. We all know that the Republicans did not recruit Democrats unhappy with the liberalism of the Democratic Party - unless, by liberalism, you mean the Democrat's hatred for black people.

Liberalism is a political philosophy. When talking about a list of political philosophies, one could make an argument that liberalism is a unique entity within that framework and might be capitalized but you would be hard pressed to find a single modern scholarly writing doing that.

Then the anti-abortion crowd, anti-vax, anti-science, gunners and thus the growing stupification and dishonesty of the GOP.
Why aren't all these adjectives capitalized? Do you only capitalize the honest ones? That would explain these, being lesser because dishonesty is always less than honesty, being not capitalized when you capitalize so many other adjectives.

These people have no idea of what Republican philosophy is but they call themselves "conservative" so the GOP became conflated with political stupidity.

Your doing
Don't know what you edited here but you missed two words.
BUT

If you don't know why MTG and BoBo are not Conservatives that, my tiny brained "conservative" is entirely on you.

Your mistake is that you, somewhere, saw someone say little 'r' republican versus big 'R' Republican and you thought that could apply to any adjective. It doesn't.

A little 'r' republican is someone who believes in or supports a republican form of government - as is the United States and also each and every individual state. A big 'R' Republican is a person who is registered as, or at least supports, the Republican Party. The Republican Party is a specific instance of a thing; an actual entity. Its name is a proper noun so it is capitalized.

A little 'd' democrat is someone who believes in or supports a democratic form of government - i.e. majority rules or at least majority elects the leaders. A big 'D' Democrat is someone who believes that black children should not have the option to select or go to the best schools; those schools being reserved for the children of big 'D' Democrat leaders and donors.

Now that I've educated you, once again, please tell me what a Conservative is and what is the difference between a Conservative and a conservative.
And we hear from the IGP.
Why?
The fact that you really are to much of a Tiny Minded "conservative" to begin to understand makes the effort worthless but
I will allow you to explain it to yourself.
Why is Donald Trump a "conservative?" What are his deeply held beliefs that define his "conservatism?" From where did he derive these beliefs?
What about people who don't agree with him on EVERYTHING, are they not "conservatives?"
You see, it is not I who fails to understand the difference between Conservative and "conservative."
and willful ignorance is not a good look.
 
The exact answer one expects from a "conservative."
He doesn't know a thing about Conservatives so he conflates them with other groups.
There used to be Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal Democrats and Republicans.

There used to be conservative, moderate, and liberal Democrats. There might also have been Conservative-Democrats but no group referred to themselves as any proper, formalized, unique group. Conservative, moderate, and liberal, as you used them are called adjectives; those are words that qualify or mark up other words. As I used it creates a compound word, thus the hyphen, and doesn't make sense without the Democrats. Actually the word conservative doesn't make sense along with the word Democrat in any sense or case but that's a different argument.

There has not been a Conservative president since Gerald Ford.
No; there has not been a conservative president since Donald Trump. Gerald ford was never conservative and adjectives do not get capitalized.
Harry Truman would have been the last Democratic Conservative to be President.
No; Harry Truman may have been the last democratic-conservative to be president. You might even argue that he was the last democratic conservative, but you really don't understand at all the proper use of proper nouns.

You might argue that President Truman was a democratic-conservative but Harry Truman wasn't President; he was president. President is properly capitalized when used as a proper noun as a title and not capitalized when used as the name of an office of government. You could say President Truman was president from 1945 to 1953. Far more interesting and exciting, though, is that President Trump was president from 2017 to 2021 and will be again from 2025 to 2029.

Following the Southern Plan
If the title of the plan is The Southern Plan, then you can follow The Southern Plan. If the title of the plan is Southern Plan, then you can follow the Southern Plan; so you basically got this one right. In both cases, Southern is part of the title just as the word President is part of the title when you say, "I love President Trump." (Go ahead. Try saying it and see how sweetly it rolls across your lips.)

Republicans recruited Democrats unhappy with the Liberalism of the Democratic party toward race.
Well, this one's just silly. We all know that the Republicans did not recruit Democrats unhappy with the liberalism of the Democratic Party - unless, by liberalism, you mean the Democrat's hatred for black people.

Liberalism is a political philosophy. When talking about a list of political philosophies, one could make an argument that liberalism is a unique entity within that framework and might be capitalized but you would be hard pressed to find a single modern scholarly writing doing that.

Then the anti-abortion crowd, anti-vax, anti-science, gunners and thus the growing stupification and dishonesty of the GOP.
Why aren't all these adjectives capitalized? Do you only capitalize the honest ones? That would explain these, being lesser because dishonesty is always less than honesty, being not capitalized when you capitalize so many other adjectives.

These people have no idea of what Republican philosophy is but they call themselves "conservative" so the GOP became conflated with political stupidity.

Your doing
Don't know what you edited here but you missed two words.
BUT

If you don't know why MTG and BoBo are not Conservatives that, my tiny brained "conservative" is entirely on you.

Your mistake is that you, somewhere, saw someone say little 'r' republican versus big 'R' Republican and you thought that could apply to any adjective. It doesn't.

A little 'r' republican is someone who believes in or supports a republican form of government - as is the United States and also each and every individual state. A big 'R' Republican is a person who is registered as, or at least supports, the Republican Party. The Republican Party is a specific instance of a thing; an actual entity. Its name is a proper noun so it is capitalized.

A little 'd' democrat is someone who believes in or supports a democratic form of government - i.e. majority rules or at least majority elects the leaders. A big 'D' Democrat is someone who believes that black children should not have the option to select or go to the best schools; those schools being reserved for the children of big 'D' Democrat leaders and donors.

Now that I've educated you, once again, please tell me what a Conservative is and what is the difference between a Conservative and a conservative.
And we hear from the IGP.
Why?
The fact that you really are to much of a Tiny Minded "conservative" to begin to understand makes the effort worthless but
I will allow you to explain it to yourself.
Why is Donald Trump a "conservative?" What are his deeply held beliefs that define his "conservatism?" From where did he derive these beliefs?
What about people who don't agree with him on EVERYTHING, are they not "conservatives?"
You see, it is not I who fails to understand the difference between Conservative and "conservative."
and willful ignorance is not a good look.

Good; you admit that you don't know what the hell you're talking about and cannot define a big 'C' conservative.
 
Carter put those troops in Lebanon.


Credit patriotic American Jew Caspar weinberger for not joining with Israel's false flag hate hoax designed to bait us into war with hezbollah.

Had W, LBJ, or Biden been president, we would have hit Hezbollah.....

You come into this thread pretending to be, at a minimum, libertarian but really talk more liberal/leftist. So why should it surprise me that you're an anti-Semite racist? Most leftists are both. You blow your own credibility out of the water; you're just another racist idiot on the left.

This is complicated, but several of your assumptions are wrong.
First of all, EMH is very right wing, from other threads.
Second is that the wording "anti-Semitic" when you mean "anti-Jewish" is cultural appropriation.
The word "Semitic" means "of an Arab language group", so does not mean "Jewish".
Third is that Israel is the product of Ashkenazi Zionism. which is totally and completely anti-Jewish.
Real Jews are taught that they are to wait for the coming of the Messiah before looking for Zion on Earth.
Until then they are to remain out of the Mideast and atone for the sins of arrogance and pride.

Great. Another anti-Semite.

Wrong.
I am Jewish and you are a racist, ignorant, anti-Jew.
 
The exact answer one expects from a "conservative."
He doesn't know a thing about Conservatives so he conflates them with other groups.
There used to be Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal Democrats and Republicans.

There used to be conservative, moderate, and liberal Democrats. There might also have been Conservative-Democrats but no group referred to themselves as any proper, formalized, unique group. Conservative, moderate, and liberal, as you used them are called adjectives; those are words that qualify or mark up other words. As I used it creates a compound word, thus the hyphen, and doesn't make sense without the Democrats. Actually the word conservative doesn't make sense along with the word Democrat in any sense or case but that's a different argument.

There has not been a Conservative president since Gerald Ford.
No; there has not been a conservative president since Donald Trump. Gerald ford was never conservative and adjectives do not get capitalized.
Harry Truman would have been the last Democratic Conservative to be President.
No; Harry Truman may have been the last democratic-conservative to be president. You might even argue that he was the last democratic conservative, but you really don't understand at all the proper use of proper nouns.

You might argue that President Truman was a democratic-conservative but Harry Truman wasn't President; he was president. President is properly capitalized when used as a proper noun as a title and not capitalized when used as the name of an office of government. You could say President Truman was president from 1945 to 1953. Far more interesting and exciting, though, is that President Trump was president from 2017 to 2021 and will be again from 2025 to 2029.

Following the Southern Plan
If the title of the plan is The Southern Plan, then you can follow The Southern Plan. If the title of the plan is Southern Plan, then you can follow the Southern Plan; so you basically got this one right. In both cases, Southern is part of the title just as the word President is part of the title when you say, "I love President Trump." (Go ahead. Try saying it and see how sweetly it rolls across your lips.)

Republicans recruited Democrats unhappy with the Liberalism of the Democratic party toward race.
Well, this one's just silly. We all know that the Republicans did not recruit Democrats unhappy with the liberalism of the Democratic Party - unless, by liberalism, you mean the Democrat's hatred for black people.

Liberalism is a political philosophy. When talking about a list of political philosophies, one could make an argument that liberalism is a unique entity within that framework and might be capitalized but you would be hard pressed to find a single modern scholarly writing doing that.

Then the anti-abortion crowd, anti-vax, anti-science, gunners and thus the growing stupification and dishonesty of the GOP.
Why aren't all these adjectives capitalized? Do you only capitalize the honest ones? That would explain these, being lesser because dishonesty is always less than honesty, being not capitalized when you capitalize so many other adjectives.

These people have no idea of what Republican philosophy is but they call themselves "conservative" so the GOP became conflated with political stupidity.

Your doing
Don't know what you edited here but you missed two words.
BUT

If you don't know why MTG and BoBo are not Conservatives that, my tiny brained "conservative" is entirely on you.

Your mistake is that you, somewhere, saw someone say little 'r' republican versus big 'R' Republican and you thought that could apply to any adjective. It doesn't.

A little 'r' republican is someone who believes in or supports a republican form of government - as is the United States and also each and every individual state. A big 'R' Republican is a person who is registered as, or at least supports, the Republican Party. The Republican Party is a specific instance of a thing; an actual entity. Its name is a proper noun so it is capitalized.

A little 'd' democrat is someone who believes in or supports a democratic form of government - i.e. majority rules or at least majority elects the leaders. A big 'D' Democrat is someone who believes that black children should not have the option to select or go to the best schools; those schools being reserved for the children of big 'D' Democrat leaders and donors.

Now that I've educated you, once again, please tell me what a Conservative is and what is the difference between a Conservative and a conservative.
And we hear from the IGP.
Why?
The fact that you really are to much of a Tiny Minded "conservative" to begin to understand makes the effort worthless but
I will allow you to explain it to yourself.
Why is Donald Trump a "conservative?" What are his deeply held beliefs that define his "conservatism?" From where did he derive these beliefs?
What about people who don't agree with him on EVERYTHING, are they not "conservatives?"
You see, it is not I who fails to understand the difference between Conservative and "conservative."
and willful ignorance is not a good look.

Good; you admit that you don't know what the hell you're talking about and cannot define a big 'C' conservative.

There originally were 2 main areas where one could be Conservative vs Liberal.
1. A person who strictly limited the federal government to only what was explicitly authorized was Conservative, and one who considered the federal government authorized to do what ever was not explicitly denied was a Liberal.
2. Then there was where Conservatives insisted on a balanced budget except in war, while a Liberal would support printing more currency for short periods, as an economic stimulus.
 
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The exact answer one expects from a "conservative."
He doesn't know a thing about Conservatives so he conflates them with other groups.
There used to be Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal Democrats and Republicans.

There used to be conservative, moderate, and liberal Democrats. There might also have been Conservative-Democrats but no group referred to themselves as any proper, formalized, unique group. Conservative, moderate, and liberal, as you used them are called adjectives; those are words that qualify or mark up other words. As I used it creates a compound word, thus the hyphen, and doesn't make sense without the Democrats. Actually the word conservative doesn't make sense along with the word Democrat in any sense or case but that's a different argument.

There has not been a Conservative president since Gerald Ford.
No; there has not been a conservative president since Donald Trump. Gerald ford was never conservative and adjectives do not get capitalized.
Harry Truman would have been the last Democratic Conservative to be President.
No; Harry Truman may have been the last democratic-conservative to be president. You might even argue that he was the last democratic conservative, but you really don't understand at all the proper use of proper nouns.

You might argue that President Truman was a democratic-conservative but Harry Truman wasn't President; he was president. President is properly capitalized when used as a proper noun as a title and not capitalized when used as the name of an office of government. You could say President Truman was president from 1945 to 1953. Far more interesting and exciting, though, is that President Trump was president from 2017 to 2021 and will be again from 2025 to 2029.

Following the Southern Plan
If the title of the plan is The Southern Plan, then you can follow The Southern Plan. If the title of the plan is Southern Plan, then you can follow the Southern Plan; so you basically got this one right. In both cases, Southern is part of the title just as the word President is part of the title when you say, "I love President Trump." (Go ahead. Try saying it and see how sweetly it rolls across your lips.)

Republicans recruited Democrats unhappy with the Liberalism of the Democratic party toward race.
Well, this one's just silly. We all know that the Republicans did not recruit Democrats unhappy with the liberalism of the Democratic Party - unless, by liberalism, you mean the Democrat's hatred for black people.

Liberalism is a political philosophy. When talking about a list of political philosophies, one could make an argument that liberalism is a unique entity within that framework and might be capitalized but you would be hard pressed to find a single modern scholarly writing doing that.

Then the anti-abortion crowd, anti-vax, anti-science, gunners and thus the growing stupification and dishonesty of the GOP.
Why aren't all these adjectives capitalized? Do you only capitalize the honest ones? That would explain these, being lesser because dishonesty is always less than honesty, being not capitalized when you capitalize so many other adjectives.

These people have no idea of what Republican philosophy is but they call themselves "conservative" so the GOP became conflated with political stupidity.

Your doing
Don't know what you edited here but you missed two words.
BUT

If you don't know why MTG and BoBo are not Conservatives that, my tiny brained "conservative" is entirely on you.

Your mistake is that you, somewhere, saw someone say little 'r' republican versus big 'R' Republican and you thought that could apply to any adjective. It doesn't.

A little 'r' republican is someone who believes in or supports a republican form of government - as is the United States and also each and every individual state. A big 'R' Republican is a person who is registered as, or at least supports, the Republican Party. The Republican Party is a specific instance of a thing; an actual entity. Its name is a proper noun so it is capitalized.

A little 'd' democrat is someone who believes in or supports a democratic form of government - i.e. majority rules or at least majority elects the leaders. A big 'D' Democrat is someone who believes that black children should not have the option to select or go to the best schools; those schools being reserved for the children of big 'D' Democrat leaders and donors.

Now that I've educated you, once again, please tell me what a Conservative is and what is the difference between a Conservative and a conservative.
And we hear from the IGP.
Why?
The fact that you really are to much of a Tiny Minded "conservative" to begin to understand makes the effort worthless but
I will allow you to explain it to yourself.
Why is Donald Trump a "conservative?" What are his deeply held beliefs that define his "conservatism?" From where did he derive these beliefs?
What about people who don't agree with him on EVERYTHING, are they not "conservatives?"
You see, it is not I who fails to understand the difference between Conservative and "conservative."
and willful ignorance is not a good look.

Good; you admit that you don't know what the hell you're talking about and cannot define a big 'C' conservative.

There originally were 2 main areas where one could be Conservative vs Liberal.
1. A person who strictly limited the federal government to only what was explicitly authorized was Conservative, and one who considered the federal government authorized to do what ever was not explicitly denied was a Libera.
2. Then there was where Conservatives insisted on a balanced budget except in war, while a Libera would support printing more currency for short periods, as an economic stimulus.

I'm sure you mean to say there were originally 2 main areas where one could be conservative or liberal. Find any modern scholarly work where those two words are used capitalized other in titles or the first word of a sentence.
 
The exact answer one expects from a "conservative."
He doesn't know a thing about Conservatives so he conflates them with other groups.
There used to be Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal Democrats and Republicans.

There used to be conservative, moderate, and liberal Democrats. There might also have been Conservative-Democrats but no group referred to themselves as any proper, formalized, unique group. Conservative, moderate, and liberal, as you used them are called adjectives; those are words that qualify or mark up other words. As I used it creates a compound word, thus the hyphen, and doesn't make sense without the Democrats. Actually the word conservative doesn't make sense along with the word Democrat in any sense or case but that's a different argument.

There has not been a Conservative president since Gerald Ford.
No; there has not been a conservative president since Donald Trump. Gerald ford was never conservative and adjectives do not get capitalized.
Harry Truman would have been the last Democratic Conservative to be President.
No; Harry Truman may have been the last democratic-conservative to be president. You might even argue that he was the last democratic conservative, but you really don't understand at all the proper use of proper nouns.

You might argue that President Truman was a democratic-conservative but Harry Truman wasn't President; he was president. President is properly capitalized when used as a proper noun as a title and not capitalized when used as the name of an office of government. You could say President Truman was president from 1945 to 1953. Far more interesting and exciting, though, is that President Trump was president from 2017 to 2021 and will be again from 2025 to 2029.

Following the Southern Plan
If the title of the plan is The Southern Plan, then you can follow The Southern Plan. If the title of the plan is Southern Plan, then you can follow the Southern Plan; so you basically got this one right. In both cases, Southern is part of the title just as the word President is part of the title when you say, "I love President Trump." (Go ahead. Try saying it and see how sweetly it rolls across your lips.)

Republicans recruited Democrats unhappy with the Liberalism of the Democratic party toward race.
Well, this one's just silly. We all know that the Republicans did not recruit Democrats unhappy with the liberalism of the Democratic Party - unless, by liberalism, you mean the Democrat's hatred for black people.

Liberalism is a political philosophy. When talking about a list of political philosophies, one could make an argument that liberalism is a unique entity within that framework and might be capitalized but you would be hard pressed to find a single modern scholarly writing doing that.

Then the anti-abortion crowd, anti-vax, anti-science, gunners and thus the growing stupification and dishonesty of the GOP.
Why aren't all these adjectives capitalized? Do you only capitalize the honest ones? That would explain these, being lesser because dishonesty is always less than honesty, being not capitalized when you capitalize so many other adjectives.

These people have no idea of what Republican philosophy is but they call themselves "conservative" so the GOP became conflated with political stupidity.

Your doing
Don't know what you edited here but you missed two words.
BUT

If you don't know why MTG and BoBo are not Conservatives that, my tiny brained "conservative" is entirely on you.

Your mistake is that you, somewhere, saw someone say little 'r' republican versus big 'R' Republican and you thought that could apply to any adjective. It doesn't.

A little 'r' republican is someone who believes in or supports a republican form of government - as is the United States and also each and every individual state. A big 'R' Republican is a person who is registered as, or at least supports, the Republican Party. The Republican Party is a specific instance of a thing; an actual entity. Its name is a proper noun so it is capitalized.

A little 'd' democrat is someone who believes in or supports a democratic form of government - i.e. majority rules or at least majority elects the leaders. A big 'D' Democrat is someone who believes that black children should not have the option to select or go to the best schools; those schools being reserved for the children of big 'D' Democrat leaders and donors.

Now that I've educated you, once again, please tell me what a Conservative is and what is the difference between a Conservative and a conservative.
And we hear from the IGP.
Why?
The fact that you really are to much of a Tiny Minded "conservative" to begin to understand makes the effort worthless but
I will allow you to explain it to yourself.
Why is Donald Trump a "conservative?" What are his deeply held beliefs that define his "conservatism?" From where did he derive these beliefs?
What about people who don't agree with him on EVERYTHING, are they not "conservatives?"
You see, it is not I who fails to understand the difference between Conservative and "conservative."
and willful ignorance is not a good look.

Good; you admit that you don't know what the hell you're talking about and cannot define a big 'C' conservative.

There originally were 2 main areas where one could be Conservative vs Liberal.
1. A person who strictly limited the federal government to only what was explicitly authorized was Conservative, and one who considered the federal government authorized to do what ever was not explicitly denied was a Libera.
2. Then there was where Conservatives insisted on a balanced budget except in war, while a Libera would support printing more currency for short periods, as an economic stimulus.

I'm sure you mean to say there were originally 2 main areas where one could be conservative or liberal. Find any modern scholarly work where those two words are used capitalized other in titles or the first word of a sentence.

Good point. I think it is only in England where there are actual parties of those names.
{...
The Conservative Party, officially the Conservative and Unionist Party, and also known colloquially as the Tories, Tory Party, or simply the Conservatives, is a political party in the United Kingdom.
...}
 

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