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And got crushed by new England. That game will be much more competitive.
Maybe...
Manning had a great team around him... There isn't a great team in Denver.
Maybe there will be, but he has to stay Healthy on top of that.
peace...
"Manning had a great team around him"
They were the worst team in football without him.
Denver has one of the best defenses in the league and an awesome OL.
Please, please stick to your day job. You have NO clue about this game.
I am. At least in my own mind and if someone wants to pay me that.96 million dollar -wtf no one on earth is worth that
Maybe...
Manning had a great team around him... There isn't a great team in Denver.
Maybe there will be, but he has to stay Healthy on top of that.
peace...
"Manning had a great team around him"
They were the worst team in football without him.
Denver has one of the best defenses in the league and an awesome OL.
Please, please stick to your day job. You have NO clue about this game.
uhm...what?
PTS
24.4
(24th)
YDS
357.8
(20th)
PASS YDS
231.5
(18th)
RUSH YDS
126.3
(22nd)
Denver Broncos Stats at NFL.com
Disappointing career? Illegitimate Super Bowl? Manning didn't try and that's why he didn't have a perfect season?
Some bold foolishness there.
Disappointing career? Illegitimate Super Bowl? Manning didn't try and that's why he didn't have a perfect season?
Some bold foolishness there.
1 Superbowl. Only 1. And if it hadn't rained I'm not so sure he would have had that one. 14-0 and he lets his coach take him out in a close game in the 3rd quarter. That's not the way a champion thinks.
Manning will be considered in the same class as Marino or Tarkenton. Great? Yes. The Greatest?
His name won't even come up.
Maybe I'm beating a dead horse/bronco/colt here, but it must be crystal clear to everyone that Manning will not take the Broncos to a Superbowl. We've seen this movie before. We know how it ends. Manning has about 2 years to do something great and it just isn't going to be enough time to make the team his own.
There are only 2 great quarterbacks who ever had a second act and one of them was just because of dumb luck.
The other, John Elway, had a second career but with the same team.
This is the end for Peyton and in the final analysis it was a disappointing career. He won the only illegitimate Superbowl ever. He didn't have a perfect season because he didn't try. Peyton, in many ways, underachieved and for the rest of his life he's going to have to sit across the table at Thanksgiving and look at a guy who overachieved and had the better career while his dad looks on....
Manning is one of the top 3 QBs of all time.
Maybe I'm beating a dead horse/bronco/colt here, but it must be crystal clear to everyone that Manning will not take the Broncos to a Superbowl. We've seen this movie before. We know how it ends. Manning has about 2 years to do something great and it just isn't going to be enough time to make the team his own.
There are only 2 great quarterbacks who ever had a second act and one of them was just because of dumb luck.
The other, John Elway, had a second career but with the same team.
This is the end for Peyton and in the final analysis it was a disappointing career. He won the only illegitimate Superbowl ever. He didn't have a perfect season because he didn't try. Peyton, in many ways, underachieved and for the rest of his life he's going to have to sit across the table at Thanksgiving and look at a guy who overachieved and had the better career while his dad looks on....
A disappointing career?
Weak running game and suspect defense and his stats are:
54K yards, 399 TD passes, 46 game winning drives and you call that a "disappointing career"
4th in career wins, 2 time NFL MVP, 3rd all time passing leader, # TWO ALL TIME GAME WINNING DRIVES, #3 in passes completed, #2 IN PASSING YARDS PER GAME, TIED FOR #1 IN COMEBACKS IN NFL HISTORY.
And you state he had a "disappointing career".
You have never, ever crossed the lines and played a damn down. You have NO clue.
Manning is one of the top 3 QBs of all time.
For those of us in the know that have crossed the lines.
Manning is one of the best who ever lived for those who quarterbacked a modern system. To say championships equal skill is full of it.Disappointing career? Illegitimate Super Bowl? Manning didn't try and that's why he didn't have a perfect season?
Some bold foolishness there.
1 Superbowl. Only 1. And if it hadn't rained I'm not so sure he would have had that one. 14-0 and he lets his coach take him out in a close game in the 3rd quarter. That's not the way a champion thinks.
Manning will be considered in the same class as Marino or Tarkenton. Great? Yes. The Greatest?
His name won't even come up.
Maybe I'm beating a dead horse/bronco/colt here, but it must be crystal clear to everyone that Manning will not take the Broncos to a Superbowl. We've seen this movie before. We know how it ends. Manning has about 2 years to do something great and it just isn't going to be enough time to make the team his own.
There are only 2 great quarterbacks who ever had a second act and one of them was just because of dumb luck.
The other, John Elway, had a second career but with the same team.
This is the end for Peyton and in the final analysis it was a disappointing career. He won the only illegitimate Superbowl ever. He didn't have a perfect season because he didn't try. Peyton, in many ways, underachieved and for the rest of his life he's going to have to sit across the table at Thanksgiving and look at a guy who overachieved and had the better career while his dad looks on....
A disappointing career?
Weak running game and suspect defense and his stats are:
54K yards, 399 TD passes, 46 game winning drives and you call that a "disappointing career"
4th in career wins, 2 time NFL MVP, 3rd all time passing leader, # TWO ALL TIME GAME WINNING DRIVES, #3 in passes completed, #2 IN PASSING YARDS PER GAME, TIED FOR #1 IN COMEBACKS IN NFL HISTORY.
And you state he had a "disappointing career".
You have never, ever crossed the lines and played a damn down. You have NO clue.
Manning is one of the top 3 QBs of all time.
For those of us in the know that have crossed the lines.
I would go along with Peyton being an underachiever. Year in, year out the Colts had one of the best teams in the NFL. They routinely ran off 13,14 and even 15 win seasons. Yet, in 14 seasons, Peyton managed one championship
Peyton still lacks that signature game......the one victory where he carried his to victory in a big game
Brady has it, Roethlesberger has it.......Eli has two
Manning is one of the best who ever lived for those who quarterbacked a modern system. To say championships equal skill is full of it.Disappointing career? Illegitimate Super Bowl? Manning didn't try and that's why he didn't have a perfect season?
Some bold foolishness there.
1 Superbowl. Only 1. And if it hadn't rained I'm not so sure he would have had that one. 14-0 and he lets his coach take him out in a close game in the 3rd quarter. That's not the way a champion thinks.
Manning will be considered in the same class as Marino or Tarkenton. Great? Yes. The Greatest?
His name won't even come up.
For example, Tony Romo is statistically better than Aikman. (for the record I don't like either much)
So before we lump Manning in with Bernie Kosar, Jim Kelly, Dan Marino, Warren Moon, Dan Fouts and Archie Manning as skilled but not really that great, we need to remember how awesome those quarterbacks were WITHOUT a championship win. Would you rate Terry Bradshaw, Doug Williams, Joe Namath, Phil Simms, Joe Theismann or Trent Dilfer over them because they have a Superbowl ring or three?
So the question is... what DOES make a great quarterback? Stats? Championships? PR?
A disappointing career?
Weak running game and suspect defense and his stats are:
54K yards, 399 TD passes, 46 game winning drives and you call that a "disappointing career"
4th in career wins, 2 time NFL MVP, 3rd all time passing leader, # TWO ALL TIME GAME WINNING DRIVES, #3 in passes completed, #2 IN PASSING YARDS PER GAME, TIED FOR #1 IN COMEBACKS IN NFL HISTORY.
And you state he had a "disappointing career".
You have never, ever crossed the lines and played a damn down. You have NO clue.
Manning is one of the top 3 QBs of all time.
For those of us in the know that have crossed the lines.
I would go along with Peyton being an underachiever. Year in, year out the Colts had one of the best teams in the NFL. They routinely ran off 13,14 and even 15 win seasons. Yet, in 14 seasons, Peyton managed one championship
Peyton still lacks that signature game......the one victory where he carried his to victory in a big game
Brady has it, Roethlesberger has it.......Eli has two
So his Super Bowl win wasn't a big game? How do you explain the collapse of the Colts with Manning missing?
I would go along with Peyton being an underachiever. Year in, year out the Colts had one of the best teams in the NFL. They routinely ran off 13,14 and even 15 win seasons. Yet, in 14 seasons, Peyton managed one championship
Peyton still lacks that signature game......the one victory where he carried his to victory in a big game
Brady has it, Roethlesberger has it.......Eli has two
So his Super Bowl win wasn't a big game? How do you explain the collapse of the Colts with Manning missing?
I said signature game.......it's been five years, how much do you remember about how Manning performed?
By signature game, I mean...
Johnny Unitas beating the Giants in overtime
Bart Starr in the Ice Bowl
Joe Namath guaranteeing a win over the Colts
Joe Montana and "The Catch"
Eli beating an Undefeated Patriots with an 83 yd drive
Twenty years from now, which Peyton Manning win will you be talking about?
Manning is one of the top 3 QBs of all time.
I wouldn't consider him to be one of the top 3 QBs of his own time.
After all, there are 3 active Superbowl-contending starting QBs in the league right now who all have more superbowl victories than P. Manning does. All of them are younger than him. 1 of them is defintiely a "greater" quarterback than P. Manning and the another I would say is every bit as good. The only one of the 3 who isn't "as great" is his own brother, the overachiever.
There are another couple of QBs who each have one ring. I wouldn't be surprised to see either of them get a second next year, would you?
I also wouldn't be suprised to see some up-and-comer like Flacco or Stafford nab a ring next year.
I know that nobody cares about Superbowl victories and people don't even consider them when they're gauging how great a QBs career was, but I do believe that you'll see Peyton finish with a 1-1 Superbowl record. And he's lucky to have that, because I think Chicago had a better team that year. Not the we'll ever really know since it was raining sheets.
96 million dollar -wtf no one on earth is worth that