Old Rocks
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Navy. You seem like a reasonable person. Do you see a problem with all the companies in the USA sending up smoke into the atmosphere?
Now, add to that India, China, Mexico & Europe who are all catching up or passing us on how much they pollute.
Do you not see a problem with this?
Do you not think we should work to lower this pollution?
sealy, my position is simple, we can and do have the technology to develop ALL our energy resources in an environmentally sound manner. My problem is that to select one set of technologies and annoint them and ignore others because they do not fit into the scheme is ignorant and counter productive for all. Further, I do not think punishment is a way to incent people or companies to change their way's while fines are a valuable tool they should not be used as a profit making tool and the aim of this bill is to make punishment a profit making venture at the expense of this nation. Let me cite you some example, every technology has some degree of environmental risk associated with it, solar is land use , deforrestation, same with wind for little power output. clean coal you have cardon sequestration issues , in orther words you have to store a deadly by product in the ground, nuclear the same thing. See what I mean? So if we as a nation decided that to be energy independant we should develop EVERY resource we have and do so in a clean and environmentally sensitive manner without the influence of special interests on both sides you would find no bigger supporter than me. I also think, that if we were to go down this track, this nation would not only flourish we would ssoon find ourselves once again in a position wher our economy is strong, and able to support itself without the need of foreign influence. More jobs, equals, more people able to afford the things in life they need i.e. their own healthcare etc...
Now that is silly. The areas where one would put solar farms, whether thermal solar or photovoltaic, do not have trees. Same goes for wind. And there is a huge area that already has the grid to it that is just waiting to be used for photovotaic, and it would not remove one plant, that is the commercial and industrial rooftops.
As far as claiming that solar and wind do not, or will not produce much power, we are already producing power in the giga-watt range with wind in Oregon. And we have nothing like the potential of Montana, North and South Dakota, and Nebraska.
The fourth and fifth generation nukes promise power without the dangers of a meltdown, and, for the fifth generation, even without long life radioactive waste. But the cost is still much higher than the other alternatives.