Madrassas in our public schools

why is it everytime, radical islam is brought up, rather then liberals or liberalism dealing with the actual issue being discussed, they bring up side issues like christianity or other religions, as if we face the same threat from any other radical religion, that we do from radical islam. I find it morally repugnant, to try and excuse islams bad behavior by pointing out other religions bad behavior, its just moral relativism or the left, and it is disgusting to me
 
The substitue complained mary-frances stevens, that it was an hour not 15 minutes, and ive heard it being 35 minutes. So it is possible, it is not really just 15 minutes, and spending 450 k to teach kids a foreign language , and segregating the muslims student, then by gender, and making special time for them to pray is against the law to me. Conflicting reports: some say, its during recess, some say during teaching time.

Most of the allegations made by the substitute were shown to be unsubstantiated after an investigation was done.
 
well if you have a link to that report, I would love to see it. I know the minutes of the meeting are somewhere online, and the meeting is from april.

Im not here to vilify islam. I talked to my muslim friend yesterday, and i realized, hey asshole, meaning me. Dont vilify them all, their are moderates like him, and the u.s. should support them. So, im retracting my comments about islam being a cancer, but i will say in the muslim world, non muslims and women are treated as 2nd class citizens, because it is true, and sadly, islam needs a renaissance, or moderate muslims to take back their religion, and denounce the mean versus, heck, i wouldnt mind doing the same for any religion personally.

Most of the allegations made by the substitute were shown to be unsubstantiated after an investigation was done.
 
well if you have a link to that report, I would love to see it. I know the minutes of the meeting are somewhere online, and the meeting is from april.

Im not here to vilify islam. I talked to my muslim friend yesterday, and i realized, hey asshole, meaning me. Dont vilify them all, their are moderates like him, and the u.s. should support them. So, im retracting my comments about islam being a cancer, but i will say in the muslim world, non muslims and women are treated as 2nd class citizens, because it is true, and sadly, islam needs a renaissance, or moderate muslims to take back their religion, and denounce the mean versus, heck, i wouldnt mind doing the same for any religion personally.

for me this one is easy....

if you are a hard core muslim and need to pray all the time go to private school and get what you need....and yes same goes for every other religion....flip side....everyone gets equal time....no special shit for anyone....not on my tax dollar any way....and yes i believe this across the board for everything about anything...
 
got a link to that claim

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/metro/20070702-9999-1n2prayer.html

if you are a hard core muslim and need to pray all the time go to private school and get what you need....and yes same goes for every other religion....flip side....everyone gets equal time....no special shit for anyone....not on my tax dollar any way....and yes i believe this across the board for everything about anything...

If the state requires you to do something you should not be required to pay more money for it so that you don't go against your religion.
 
I dont think any state in the u.s.a. should make special accomodations for any religion. If you are un-happy that pork is served in cafeteria, dont eat it. If you want to buy your own prayers rugs, fine, but taxpayers should not pay for it, how come the school doesnt buy torahs, or bibles?

How come the school set up the prayer for recess, what christians and jews arent special.

This is special treatment. Muslims do not deserve special rights, they dont have to do anything, religion is not law, you dont go to jail if you dont follow it.

Be fair and be consistent, muslims at carver should not be segregated from the non-muslims, and the muslims girls and boys should not be segregated, period.

it is not americas job to conform to you. The muslim world does not do it for us, we should not do it for them.
 
Really? Any idea what country they came from? Yes, you can still say in god you trust. In fact you just did. No, it won't be in Allah we trust next. If you think that you are a conspiracy theorist nutter. Or just extremely stupid. Or possibly both. And yes, lets nuke US citizens. Its amazing the disrespect you have for your fellow countrymen.

They arent a citizen of our country or shouldnt be they are just a bunch of tangos. They are probably hiding AQ. So yes they came froom a coutry where islam is widely practiced so yes they should be nuked. They have to many extremeists
 
They arent a citizen of our country or shouldnt be they are just a bunch of tangos. They are probably hiding AQ. So yes they came froom a coutry where islam is widely practiced so yes they should be nuked. They have to many extremeists

Please don't tell me that you would seriously consider using a nuke.
 
Well why not? We did after Pearl Harbor. Actually that was an A-bomb. ok maybe use an A-bomb. But yes why not? We lost alot of people in pearl. When we bombed Hiroshima and Nagasaki. They backed the hell down didnt they? They said ok we are done we dont want any more. They signed a surrender. I'd say it was pretty damn effective. We lost even more people in 9-11 Civilians no less thats fighting dirty. Now its our turn. Yes we should have used the A-bomb or a nuke it would have saved alot of our soldiers in the long run. The whole point in a war is to do it to them before they do it to you. And to lose as few of our soldiers as possible.
 
you are exactly right, you want special accomodations, go to a special school. Where you can have only youre religion, and can be accomodated anyway you like, and the parents pay for it, not taxpayers.

for me this one is easy....

if you are a hard core muslim and need to pray all the time go to private school and get what you need....and yes same goes for every other religion....flip side....everyone gets equal time....no special shit for anyone....not on my tax dollar any way....and yes i believe this across the board for everything about anything...
 
you retard

I just clicked on your name to read your full collection of posts. You are fucking hilarious. Really, you should publish it - sort of a "whit an wisom" collection.

By the way, how many times is it really necessary to point out you carry your Glock around with you?

Don't ever change buddy. I thought RSR was a gold mine, but you could keep me entertained for hours. Rarely does one find such keen insight and stimulating intellectual acumen.

Where the fuck do they grow them like you?
 
Larkinn said:
I'm sure it is. The US is a huge country, I'm sure any number of various beliefs are being promoted here. However, as I said, I am sure it is not infecting large swathes of the Muslim Populace.
I would say that 250 Wahhabi-Saudi-funded mosques out of 1200 mosques is actually a fairly "large swath".

Larkinn said:
First of all you are a fucking idiot if you think this is a moderate version. Secondly, do you honestly have such a poor opinion of our educational system? This article is an obvious fake. Although its interesting that I couldn't find anywhere saying that. However a few clues are that Drexel has no department of Wahhabism (obviously), that no results, except for this article itself, comes up on google for the author, and that there is no group called "Wahhabism now for America".
Don't like the nasty rhetoric? That's what a real nitty gritty Wahhabist really thinks of you dude. Wahhabism actually is the "moderate" version of Islam presented to much of the world with our friends the Saudis leading the way. We are friends with the Saudis and even though they say they are against violence they still are promoting Wahhabism throughout the world, including the U.S. Whether or not this particular article is fake or not does not mean that those are not the sentiments of Wahhabism. Jihad is coming soon to your neighborhood…

Oh looky here - NYC is already way ahead of the game:
New York Set To Open A "Public" Jihad School
March 9, 2007 - San Francisco, CA - PipeLIneNews.org - One might have hoped that the 9/11 attacks would have constituted an "education by murder" for Americans, an example of radical Islam in its most lethal form; so why has the New York City Department of Education decided to open an Islamist public school whose curriculum shares the same ideology as the September 11 terrorists?

Slated to be the school's principal, Dhabah [aka "Debbie"] Almontaser was presented an award by the Council on American Islamic Relations [CAIR, the Saudi funded front group for Hamas and a co-defendant in a 9/11 terrorism lawsuit] and more importantly, the curriculum of her school has been designed by the radical American Arab Anti Discrimination Committee [ADC].

The ADC's funder [and recipient of the ADC's "Global Achievement Award"] Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal's 10 million dollar donation to the 9/11 victims charity was rejected by then NY Mayor Giuliani because of Talal's claim that American policy towards Israel was the reason for the terrorist outrage. Talal has also raised money to reward the family's of suicide bombers.

The ADC is also in the forefront of filing discrimination lawsuits and legal challenges aimed at obstructing the FBI, JTTF and Homeland Security from investigating Arab and Muslims who pose potential terrorism threats. [source http://www.militantislammonitor.org/article/id/671]

Six years after the attacks and still no memorial at Ground Zero, instead 2007 will see the opening of the taxpayer funded Brooklyn based madrassah aka "The Khalil Gibran International Academy for Arabic and Islamic Culture."
The KGIA was described by principal Almontaser as a place where Arab American students can learn Arabic, "and have a better understanding of where their ancestors came from."

Moustafa Bayoumi the author of a book about Arab youth after 9/11 aptly titled, "How Does It Feel To Be A Problem?" inadvertently revealed the Islamist agenda of the school when he stated that it should be, "seen as a foothold."

In this sense foothold really translates into ground gained in Islamism's cultural jihad.
http://www.pipelinenews.org/index.cfm?page=newyork3907.htm


Larkinn said:
It is applied equally to all.
No, I do not see any schools making accommodations for regular Christian prayer sessions during school hours.

Larkinn said:
Mirror socialists? Incorrect.
How so?

Larkinn said:
Lmao...that is watered down American Socialism.
Watered down? You mean the hard stuff is to come later? I'll agree with you on that.

Larkinn said:
Give me a reason why Muslim girls should not be allowed to wear burkas to school.
Because the “time of cosy tea-drinking” with Muslim groups had passed.

Larkinn said:
Nothing really. I am not religious. I don't consider myself an American first. I suppose perhaps I would say I am a Humanitarian first
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Oh brother. Another bleeding heart liberal secular socialist of the brave new world order? Would you please just do us a favor and leave America alone and go join some other country to establish your marxist values?

BTW I'd like to know exactly how you think you can consider yourself a "Humanitarian" when you are only 23, broke, and have not yet produced more than a plugged nickel in your life. When you get to the point where you have actually worked and created some real assets on your own, then you can have the right to tell the rest of us hard-working Americans how you think we all should give it away…and you can lead us by giving away your assets first.

Larkinn said:
Freedom of religion means that the state keep you from engaging in your religion. Why are you so against religion and freedom?
Come again?

Larkinn said:
I'm not burying my head in the sand. I just have the ability to recognize the difference between a terrorist cell and 15 minutes of silence in a school. You somehow think they are the same thing because they have a common thread of Muslim.
Yes you are. All you liberals got your heads in the sand. Infiltration and terrorism and takeover begins in lots of incremental baby steps. What you essentially are supporting is government-sponsored Wahhabism germinating within our public schools.
'Tacit alliance' between Wahhabi clergy and al-Qaeda: Report
WASHINGTON: The Wahhabi establishment has spent about $70 billion on Islamist missionary work around the world, including Pakistan and there exists a "tacit alliance" between them and al- Qaeda terrorist network, a media report has said.

Since 1979 the Wahhabi establishment has spent an estimated $70 billion on Islamist missionary work, ranging from the funding of some 10,000 madrassas in Pakistan to the construction of thousands of mosques and seminaries and community centres all over the Muslim and Western worlds, a column by Arnaud de Borchgrave in the The Washington Times said.

Wahhabism has been Saudi Arabia's dominant faith for more than two centuries. It is an austere form of Islam that insists on a literal interpretation of the Koran.

Strict Wahhabis believe that all those who don't practice their form of Islam are heathens and enemies.

The article observes that wealthy Saudis set up a billion dollar scheme to filter money to al- Qaeda and other terrorist groups and that Crown Prince Abdullah's crackdown on Wahhabi extremism has alienated a section of the ruling family which supports the Wahhabis.
http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/438768.cms
Larkinn said:
Report? You mean the shit you published from a right-wing website. If you look at the reports from the school district it says that claims were made about it, investigated and proven false.
Specific quote with its link please?

Larkinn said:
Derr...because religion and nationality are the main things that people consider themselves. Regardless, it shows that Muslims are not unique in that they choose their religion over country.
The Pew study still shows that the majority consider themselves to be Americans first.
 

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