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[SuperDemocrat]

It seems that "liberal" America has once again found an argument to legitimize censoring anti abortion speech. In the aftermath of the planned parenthood murders the left was on cnn saying how "right wing" rhetoric lead this man to killing those people. This creates an argument that such speech should be censored for public safety and if the public bites they may begin the push for such a thing. It is fortunate that theublic isn't listening to this but there is something to consider. What if These people really didn't believe that other people who have oppossing opinions should have the right to speak at all? These people are kind of a throwback to the 1700s. They can't just come out and say that because they know that won't be accepted by the public but, because they are crafty, they devised a good argument that can get the public to go along with any attempt to block people from speaking out. That argument is public safety. What if these people are not as liberal as they say they are?

The same thing was done by president Clinton in 94 after the Oklahoma bombing. It was Rush Limbaugh anti government talk that caused it--remember? It is like someone is purposely crafting these arguments in order to silent oppossing voices. That is the only possible outcome that these arguments can have.

What if this talk did cause these terrible things to happen? What would you propose to do about it? The only logical step would then be to attempt to silence such talk and that is exactly where these arguments are taking us and why they are made in the first place.

 

[waltky]

New budget protects Planned Parenthood...

2,009-Page, $1,205,146,000,000 Republican Spending Deal Allows Funding of Planned Parenthood
December 16, 2015 | The 2,009 page fiscal 2016 spending deal that the Republican House leadership released today authorizes $1,205,146,000,000 in federal outlays between now and the end of fiscal 2016, according to the Congressional Budget Office, and it does not prohibit funding of Planned Parenthood, according to the House Appropriations Committee.

The spending bill is paired with a separate 233-page tax bill. “We are maintaining all of our pro-life protections, including the Hyde Amendment, and we are making cuts to the UNFPA program,” House Speaker Paul Ryan said of the omnibus spending bill at a press conference today.

Planned Parenthood is the nation’s top abortion provider. In its latest annual report (2013-2014), it said that it did 327,653 abortions in fiscal 2013 (which ended on Sept. 30, 2013), and that in the year that ended on June 30, 2014, it received $528.4 million in government health services grants and reimbursements. “Look in divided government, you don’t get everything that you want,” Ryan said at his press conference. “Republicans didn’t get all that we wanted. Democrats didn’t get all that they wanted. This is a bipartisan compromise. It is a bicameral compromise. And I understand that some people don’t like some of the aspects of this. But that is the compromise that we have. And I do believe that we will have bipartisan votes on both of these bills.”

In its analysis of H.R. 2029—“The Consolidated Appropriations Act of 2016”—the CBO said that changes in law that will be made by the bill will have the net effect of increasing the federal deficit by $57.6 billion in the ten-year period from fiscal 2016 through fiscal 2025.

2,009-Page, $1,205,146,000,000 Republican Spending Deal Allows Funding of Planned Parenthood

See also:

Ryan: In Omnibus, 'We Are Maintaining All of Our Pro-Life Protections'
December 16, 2015 | "In divided government, no one gets exactly what they want," House Speaker Paul Ryan told a news conference on Wednesday. "But this week, we have completed two bipartisan agreements that advance Republican priorities." (But not conservative priorities.)

One of those conservative priorities -- defunding Planned Parenthood -- is not among the riders included in the giant appropriations bill, but Ryan said Republicans "are maintaining all of our pro-life protections, including the Hyde amendments; and we are making cuts to the UNFPA (United Nations Population Fund) program." Ryan on Wednesday discussed some of the policy riders that did make it into the final draft of the omnibus bill that will come up for a vote on Friday: "We are lifting the government's 40-year-old ban on crude oil exports. This is a big win for American jobs and our energy industry. It's a big win for our manufacturers and for our foreign policy.

"We are increasing military spending. We are tightening security requirements under the nation's visa waiver program. We are permanently authorizing the critical health care benefits for our 911 first responders in a very fiscally responsible way. "We are preventing a taxpayer bailout of Obamacare’s risk corridors program. (The program compensates health insurers that sign up sicker-than-expected patients and incur high costs.) "We are freezing most IRS operations and stopping the IRS from suppressing civic participation in 501(c)(4) organizations. (We have found that the IRS meddles in the political affairs of people. They turned the IRS into a political weapon in 2012, and we're not goin to let them turn the IRS into a political weapon again," Ryan explained later.)

"We are maintaining all of our pro-life protections, including the Hyde Amendments; and we are making cuts to the UNFPA (United Nations Population Fund) program. "In addition to all of that, we are ending Washington's days of extending tax policies one year at a time." Ryan said that "certainty in the tax code" will create more jobs. "I think this is one of the biggest steps toward a rewrite of our tax code that we've made in many years, and will help us start a pro-growth, bold tax reform agenda in 2016."

Ryan made it clear he "inherited" the omnibus appropriations process," and he "played the cards that we were dealt...as best as we possibly good." He said he looks forward to returning Congress to "regular order," which means doing appropriations bills one at a time in committee. "That is what 2016 is going to be about." Ryan called the omnibus bill a "bipartisan compromise," and he said he expects bipartisan votes on both the spending bill and the tax extender bill later this week. "I have no reason to believe we're going to have a (government) shutdown," Ryan said.

A news release from Ryan's office explains the riders in greater detail, as follows:

 

[Disir]

What if this talk did cause these terrible things to happen? What would you propose to do about it? The only logical step would then be to attempt to silence such talk and that is exactly where these arguments are taking us and why they are made in the first place.

I'm not worried about terrible talk. What are you going to do about fact checking the bullshit?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Lying about Planned Parenthood didn't work. You people lied, your crusade died.