Limbaugh silenced by sykes...

[WillowTree]

Cosby is too conservative. He actually WANTS America's youth to be EDUCATED and not re-assimilated into the new world mindset. \

Barak knew EXACTLY what he was going to get from the likes of this woman. It's why she's there! You will NEVER catch a right leaning celebrity of ANY KIND behind that mic as long as Obama is in charge.

If Obama had any guts, he would PERSONALLY (not through his press secretary ) speak up and try to put this fire out. After all, it was HIS laughter at Sykes' comment that started this firestorm.

don't you remember the low life way they acted when the Bushes walked out at the inauguration in Jan.? It's nothing more than the same low class behavior.

NOW what are you talking about?

this ocean of badly behaving obamatrons








[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ckQxmU9KM[/ame]

 

[Meister]

Then why do the repub "leaders" keep scurrying to apologize to him? You also might want to have a word with your former VP since he said that he'd rather have Rushbo and a spokesperson than Colin Powell.

You'd also have to acknowledge that Rush has gone out of his way to try to make it seem that he IS the spokesperson for the party.

Sad... your party would be so much better off listening to Powell.

Not my party Jillian. Steele apologizing was a mistake ....it was a personal mistake on his part. I do believe that Cheney has a right to his opinion on Colin Powell. I have an opinion on Colin Powell. Rush is an entertainer, and he is just expounding on what the left is putting forth..it's entertainment...nothing more, Jillian. Rush is the spokesperson for true conservatism, that's what he is all about... The left must really fear Rush to give him such credibilty.

What I "fear" about Limbaugh is that he seems to have so much influence over so many gullible people. What scares me is the level of intelligence of some of the masses of humanity out there. It seems to me that the days of common sense and rationality don't exist in Limbaugh's "true conservative" country. And it's also scaring the more sane conservatives who want to see the principles of the Grand Old Party not implode in a cesspool of ideological bullshit that doesn't work in the REAL WORLD.

Rush has so much influence over gullible people, and the right still lost the election. Go figure. The level of intellegence of most the masses scares me too. They can be swayed so easily by the NY, and LA times, along with MSNBC, NBC, etc. That scares the hell out of me. Maggie, common sense and rational have left the building on both sides of the isle. Conservatives aren't afraid of imploding, they just need to re educate themselves to the core values. McCain was not part of the core values of conservatives. He should have never won the primaries, but it was the media who helped him along. He was the easiest candidate to beat in the election, and they knew it. Media does have the power to sway people that aren't savy to politics.

 

[MaggieMae]

Not my party Jillian. Steele apologizing was a mistake ....it was a personal mistake on his part. I do believe that Cheney has a right to his opinion on Colin Powell. I have an opinion on Colin Powell. Rush is an entertainer, and he is just expounding on what the left is putting forth..it's entertainment...nothing more, Jillian. Rush is the spokesperson for true conservatism, that's what he is all about... The left must really fear Rush to give him such credibilty.

And you must really respect him to defend him so hard.

Trust me, you may not want to admit it, but Rush is your leader, and you are a right wing nut job.

And we don't fear Rush. If we did, we would ignore him.

Just like Rush LOVES to pick fights, but he has NOTHING to say after Wanda embarrassed him.

Does he want to talk about his hatred for Obama/America or does he want to talk about his oxy cotton problem?

HA!

And so you guys must really fear Michael Moore & Al Franken. You even wrote a fucking book about it.
100 People screwing up America and Franken is number 37

MyDD :: The 100 People Who Are Screwing Up America

I'm not defending Rush, Old Rocks....I'm just putting Rush into perspective...something that you leftwingnuts can't seem to do. You might say I'm trying to educate you...to no avail apparently.
Bobo, I never once have mentioned Michael Moore, until this post. He has always been irrelevent to me. Old Rocks, I'm a conservative...not a liberal, and certainly not a socialist like yourself. I'm not sure why Rush decided not to say anything about the joke that went bad. I guess he will let her words speak for themselves...kind like what I have done to you in the past.
Finally, Bobo...I've never authored abook like you claim. So please show me the link where I have authored a book you dimwit.

Right now, he's using the silent treatment, knowing that him NOT saying anything is creating more buzz. Nobody can ever accuse ol' Rush of being stupid, for sure.

 

[Yurt]

the left is funny

if rush said something they would bash him

if rush didn't say anything they would bash him

many whined that people whined about commenting on sykes "joke"

rush doesn't comment (whine) and some on the left whine rush didn't (whine)

 

[WillowTree]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXffDJn9aoY&feature=related[/ame]





more low life behavior,, and they wonder why they get no respect..

 

[WillowTree]

the left is funny

if rush said something they would bash him

if rush didn't say anything they would bash him

many whined that people whined about commenting on sykes "joke"

rush doesn't comment (whine) and some on the left whine rush didn't (whine)

the left isn't funny,, they are vicious louts! vicious intimidating louts!

 

[txlonghorn]

Isn't it funny how SPOT ON all of Michael Moore's movies have been?


Sicko, Fahrenheit 911, bowling for colombine, Roger & Me.

Obviously some one has never bothered to do any research after viewing Michael Moore's tripe. Easier to drink the Flavor Aid I suppose.

Fucking sheeple...

We remember the research you guys did after each of his movies.

You trashed and bashed the 5% that might have been wrong and ignored the other 95% that he was RIGHT ON about.

Same way you went after Dan Rather for his story on Bush being MIA during the VIET NAM war.

Rove sent Rather that forged document and when Rather used it, they attacked him for using bad information. Then the story became about Rather, not Bush.

Didn't mean Bush wasn't a draft dodger, but it changed the subject. BRILLIANT!!!

You guys spend very little time attacking the facts Moore gives and a lot of time making fun of his appearance too, as if that matters.

So far you're wrong 95% and Moore is 95% right. Unless you want to show us all the "drivel".

And why are you guys so afraid of him? That was my point. You think we're afraid of Rush? Look at how I simply mentioned Moore and got you all off topic.

Ahhh...Dan Rather....whatever became of him...oh that's right...he quit after being turned into a lying toad while trying to pass off fabricated BS as news.


And our dear friend Michael Moore...he spews the same load of crap that we read on here everyday from the left and because he turned it into a movie, we're supposed to accept it? I remember him saying one time that he was a multi-millionaire.."That's more than one million"...he says..."you know why? Because more than a million like the work I do." That's down right impressive in a country with over 300 million. Heck, 20 million of that is made up of illegal immigrants. I wonder how many of those guys he sucked in. My favorite M&M film is "Sicko". You know that hilarious little film that shows what's wrong with our health care system by comparing it with those in Canada, England and France?

That's good journalism right there!!!

 

[txlonghorn]

Not my party Jillian. Steele apologizing was a mistake ....it was a personal mistake on his part. I do believe that Cheney has a right to his opinion on Colin Powell. I have an opinion on Colin Powell. Rush is an entertainer, and he is just expounding on what the left is putting forth..it's entertainment...nothing more, Jillian. Rush is the spokesperson for true conservatism, that's what he is all about... The left must really fear Rush to give him such credibilty.

What I "fear" about Limbaugh is that he seems to have so much influence over so many gullible people. What scares me is the level of intelligence of some of the masses of humanity out there. It seems to me that the days of common sense and rationality don't exist in Limbaugh's "true conservative" country. And it's also scaring the more sane conservatives who want to see the principles of the Grand Old Party not implode in a cesspool of ideological bullshit that doesn't work in the REAL WORLD.

Rush has so much influence over gullible people, and the right still lost the election. Go figure. The level of intellegence of most the masses scares me too. They can be swayed so easily by the NY, and LA times, along with MSNBC, NBC, etc. That scares the hell out of me. Maggie, common sense and rational have left the building on both sides of the isle. Conservatives aren't afraid of imploding, they just need to re educate themselves to the core values. McCain was not part of the core values of conservatives. He should have never won the primaries, but it was the media who helped him along. He was the easiest candidate to beat in the election, and they knew it. Media does have the power to sway people that aren't savy to politics.

The republicans were going to lose the election no matter WHO won. There wasn't a republican in that race. McCain might as well jump on the wagon with Spectre.

 

[WillowTree]

Obviously some one has never bothered to do any research after viewing Michael Moore's tripe. Easier to drink the Flavor Aid I suppose.

Fucking sheeple...

We remember the research you guys did after each of his movies.

You trashed and bashed the 5% that might have been wrong and ignored the other 95% that he was RIGHT ON about.

Same way you went after Dan Rather for his story on Bush being MIA during the VIET NAM war.

Rove sent Rather that forged document and when Rather used it, they attacked him for using bad information. Then the story became about Rather, not Bush.

Didn't mean Bush wasn't a draft dodger, but it changed the subject. BRILLIANT!!!

You guys spend very little time attacking the facts Moore gives and a lot of time making fun of his appearance too, as if that matters.

So far you're wrong 95% and Moore is 95% right. Unless you want to show us all the "drivel".

And why are you guys so afraid of him? That was my point. You think we're afraid of Rush? Look at how I simply mentioned Moore and got you all off topic.

Ahhh...Dan Rather....whatever became of him...oh that's right...he quit after being turned into a lying toad while trying to pass off fabricated BS as news.


And our dear friend Michael Moore...he spews the same load of crap that we read on here everyday from the left and because he turned it into a movie, we're supposed to accept it? I remember him saying one time that he was a multi-millionaire.."That's more than one million"...he says..."you know why? Because more than a million like the work I do." That's down right impressive in a country with over 300 million. Heck, 20 million of that is made up of illegal immigrants. I wonder how many of those guys he sucked in. My favorite M&M film is "Sicko". You know that hilarious little film that shows what's wrong with our health care system by comparing it with those in Canada, England and France?

That's good journalism right there!!!

Oh! don't be so harsh.. I'm certain that now travel to Cuber is A-okay the fat tubalard will rock on down to Cuber for his most excellent health care.

 

[MaggieMae]

Not my party Jillian. Steele apologizing was a mistake ....it was a personal mistake on his part. I do believe that Cheney has a right to his opinion on Colin Powell. I have an opinion on Colin Powell. Rush is an entertainer, and he is just expounding on what the left is putting forth..it's entertainment...nothing more, Jillian. Rush is the spokesperson for true conservatism, that's what he is all about... The left must really fear Rush to give him such credibilty.

See, there is no single ideology on the "left". That is where anyone who listens to Rush or Coultergeist gets it butt backwards. They decide in their head what the "left" believes and then excoriate it. Mostly, they make it up as they go along.

And no, rush isn't entertainment or the politico's wouldn't be taking him so seriously. I think the "right" really needs to realize thta Rush is trying to fill a power vacuum and be a kingmaker.

Rush isn't a conservative. He's a reactionary.

ahhhhh symmetry

See, there is no single ideology on the "right". That is where anyone who listens to Olberman or Maddow gets it butt backwards. They decide in their head what the "right" believes and then excoriate it. Mostly, they make it up as they go along.

I don't ever listen to any of them (only Morning Joe for an hour until C-Span's WJ comes on at 7am). So how do you explain me?

HEY!! Now there's a solid conservative pundit cum elected politician people should get behind. Joe Scarborough, who even has a book out "The Last Best Hope." I'm predicting he's going to run again in 2010. He seems to be reestablishing himself in the DC area, but I don't know where he'd claim residency nearby.

 

[txlonghorn]

We remember the research you guys did after each of his movies.

You trashed and bashed the 5% that might have been wrong and ignored the other 95% that he was RIGHT ON about.

Same way you went after Dan Rather for his story on Bush being MIA during the VIET NAM war.

Rove sent Rather that forged document and when Rather used it, they attacked him for using bad information. Then the story became about Rather, not Bush.

Didn't mean Bush wasn't a draft dodger, but it changed the subject. BRILLIANT!!!

You guys spend very little time attacking the facts Moore gives and a lot of time making fun of his appearance too, as if that matters.

So far you're wrong 95% and Moore is 95% right. Unless you want to show us all the "drivel".

And why are you guys so afraid of him? That was my point. You think we're afraid of Rush? Look at how I simply mentioned Moore and got you all off topic.

Ahhh...Dan Rather....whatever became of him...oh that's right...he quit after being turned into a lying toad while trying to pass off fabricated BS as news.


And our dear friend Michael Moore...he spews the same load of crap that we read on here everyday from the left and because he turned it into a movie, we're supposed to accept it? I remember him saying one time that he was a multi-millionaire.."That's more than one million"...he says..."you know why? Because more than a million like the work I do." That's down right impressive in a country with over 300 million. Heck, 20 million of that is made up of illegal immigrants. I wonder how many of those guys he sucked in. My favorite M&M film is "Sicko". You know that hilarious little film that shows what's wrong with our health care system by comparing it with those in Canada, England and France?

That's good journalism right there!!!

Oh! don't be so harsh.. I'm certain that now travel to Cuber is A-okay the fat tubalard will rock on down to Cuber for his most excellent health care.

For the record...I didn't call him a fat tubalard...you did. LOL, I'm trying to be a well mannered right wing extremist.

 

[hjmick]

Isn't it funny how SPOT ON all of Michael Moore's movies have been?


Sicko, Fahrenheit 911, bowling for colombine, Roger & Me.

Obviously some one has never bothered to do any research after viewing Michael Moore's tripe. Easier to drink the Flavor Aid I suppose.

Fucking sheeple...

We remember the research you guys did after each of his movies.

You trashed and bashed the 5% that might have been wrong and ignored the other 95% that he was RIGHT ON about.

Same way you went after Dan Rather for his story on Bush being MIA during the VIET NAM war.

Rove sent Rather that forged document and when Rather used it, they attacked him for using bad information. Then the story became about Rather, not Bush.

Didn't mean Bush wasn't a draft dodger, but it changed the subject. BRILLIANT!!!

You guys spend very little time attacking the facts Moore gives and a lot of time making fun of his appearance too, as if that matters.

So far you're wrong 95% and Moore is 95% right. Unless you want to show us all the "drivel".

And why are you guys so afraid of him? That was my point. You think we're afraid of Rush? Look at how I simply mentioned Moore and got you all off topic.

I don't know who the "you guys" you are referring to might be, but it ain't me, pumpkin, but it certainly ain't me. As for the research, well, believe what you will. The truth about Moore's movies is unlikely to change your mind as the propaganda he produces plays to your beliefs, and that's okay. That is your right. I'm not sure I've made fun of Moore's appearance, at least not in this thread. For the record, I am not afraid of Michael Moore any more than I am afraid of Limbaugh, they are more of an annoyance than anything else. Furthermore, I never "went after Dan Rather," I couldn't have cared less. I didn't care where Bush was during Vietnam just like I didn't care where Clinton was during Vietnam.

On another note, you didn't get me "off topic," I was never on topic. I posted directly to the Michael Moore question.

In closing, to address all the inaccuracies and lies in Moore's films would require a board unto itself, but I will give you a sample (Yes, I have this stuff bookmarked for easy reference...).

From Bowling for Columbine:

Charleton Heston's Denver speech as edited by Moore:

Weeping children outside Columbine, explaining how near they had come to death and how their friends had just been murdered before their eyes;



Cut to Charleton Heston holding a musket over his head and happily proclaiming "I have only five words for you: 'from my cold, dead, hands'" to a cheering NRA crowd.

Cut to billboard advertising the meeting, while Moore in voiceover intones: "Just ten days after the Columbine killings, despite the pleas of a community in mourning, Charleton Heston came to Denver and held a large pro-gun rally for the National Rifle Association." [But for this break, the viewer would spot that two different speeches are being merged, since Heston has lavender shirt and tie in the above speech, and white shirt and red tie in the one below.]

Heston (supposedly) continues speech...

"Good Morning. Thank you all for coming, and thank you for supporting your organization. I also want to applaud your courage in coming here today." [Footage of protest outside] "I have a message from the Mayor, Mr. Wellington Webb, the Mayor of Denver. [picture of Webb, then back to Heston] He sent me this, and said 'don't come here. We don't want you here.' I said to the Mayor this is our country, as Americans we're free to travel wherever we want in our broad land. [cut to crowd cheering, then back to Heston] Don't come here? We're already here."

Charleton Heston's speech as actually given:

Thank you. Thank you very much. Good morning. I am very happy to welcome you to this abbreviated annual gathering of the National Rifle Association. Thank you all for coming and thank you for supporting your organization.

I also want to applaud your courage in coming here today. Or course, you have a right to be here. As you know, we've cancelled the festivities, the fellowship we normally enjoy at our annual gatherings. This decision has perplexed a few and inconvenienced thousands. As your president, I apologize for that.

But it's fitting and proper that we should do this. Because NRA members are, above all, Americans. That means that whatever our differences, we are respectful of one another and we stand united, especially in adversity.

I have a message from the mayor, Mr. Wellington Webb, the mayor of Denver. He sent me this and said don't come here, we don't want you here. I said to the mayor, well, my reply to the mayor is, I volunteered for the war they wanted me to attend when I was 18 years old. Since then, I've run small errands for my country, from Nigeria to Vietnam. I know many of you here in this room could say the same thing. But the mayor said don't come.

I'm sorry for that. I'm sorry for the newspaper ads saying the same thing, don't come here. This is our country. As Americans, we're free to travel wherever we want in our broad land.

They say we'll create a media distraction, but we were preceded here by hundreds of intrusive news crews. They say we'll create political distraction, but it's not been the NRA pressing for political advantage, calling press conferences to propose vast packages of new legislation.

Still they say don't come here. I guess what saddens me the most is how that suggests complicity. It implies that you and I and 80 million honest gun owners are somehow to blame, that we don't care. We don't care as much as they do, or that we don't deserve to be as shocked and horrified as every other soul in America mourning for the people of Littleton.

Don't come here. That's offensive. It's also absurd because we live here. There are thousands of NRA members in Denver, and tens upon tens of thousands in the state of Colorado.

NRA members labor in Denver's factories, they populate Denver's faculties, run Denver corporations, play on Colorado sports teams, work in media across the Front Range, parent and teach and coach Denver's children, attend Denver's churches and proudly represent Denver in uniform on the world's oceans and in the skies over Kosovo at this very moment.

NRA members are in city hall, Fort Carson, NORAD, the Air Force Academy and the Olympic Training Center. And yes, NRA members are surly among the police and fire and SWAT team heroes who risked their lives to rescue the students at Columbine.

Don't come here? We're already here. This community is our home. Every community in America is our home. We are a 128-year-old fixture of mainstream America. The Second Amendment ethic of lawful, responsible firearm ownership spans the broadest cross section of American life imaginable.

So, we have the same right as all other citizens to be here. To help shoulder the grief and share our sorrow and to offer our respectful, reassured voice to the national discourse that has erupted around this tragedy.

One more thing. Our words and our behavior will be scrutinized more than ever this morning. Those who are hostile towards us will lie in wait to seize on a soundbite out of context, ever searching for an embarrassing moment to ridicule us. So, let us be mindful. The eyes of the nation are upon us today.

You'll notice that nowhere in the Denver speech does he say, "I have only five words for you: 'from my cold, dead, hands.'" Why is that? Because he never said it in Denver, it was taken from the meeting a year later in North Carolina, and it was in fact not even part of a speech there, it was part of his response to receiving the musket as a gift. You'll also notice that Moore took sentences from different portions of Heston's Denver speech, strung them together, and made them appear to be from the same paragraph, took them out of context. He fabricated a lie, something he is very good at doing. This is especially ironic considering the last paragraph of Heston's speech.

You may also be interested in knowing that, while filming Roger and Me, Moore did meet with Roger Smith, interviewed him even. Funny, that never made the final cut.

 

[WillowTree]

Ahhh...Dan Rather....whatever became of him...oh that's right...he quit after being turned into a lying toad while trying to pass off fabricated BS as news.


And our dear friend Michael Moore...he spews the same load of crap that we read on here everyday from the left and because he turned it into a movie, we're supposed to accept it? I remember him saying one time that he was a multi-millionaire.."That's more than one million"...he says..."you know why? Because more than a million like the work I do." That's down right impressive in a country with over 300 million. Heck, 20 million of that is made up of illegal immigrants. I wonder how many of those guys he sucked in. My favorite M&M film is "Sicko". You know that hilarious little film that shows what's wrong with our health care system by comparing it with those in Canada, England and France?

That's good journalism right there!!!

Oh! don't be so harsh.. I'm certain that now travel to Cuber is A-okay the fat tubalard will rock on down to Cuber for his most excellent health care.

For the record...I didn't call him a fat tubalard...you did. LOL, I'm trying to be a well mannered right wing extremist.

I think we are expected to behave like the dishonest democwats!

 

[MaggieMae]

Isn't it funny how SPOT ON all of Michael Moore's movies have been?


Sicko, Fahrenheit 911, bowling for colombine, Roger & Me.

Obviously some one has never bothered to do any research after viewing Michael Moore's tripe. Easier to drink the Flavor Aid I suppose.

Fucking sheeple...

We remember the research you guys did after each of his movies.

You trashed and bashed the 5% that might have been wrong and ignored the other 95% that he was RIGHT ON about.

Same way you went after Dan Rather for his story on Bush being MIA during the VIET NAM war.

Rove sent Rather that forged document and when Rather used it, they attacked him for using bad information. Then the story became about Rather, not Bush.

Didn't mean Bush wasn't a draft dodger, but it changed the subject. BRILLIANT!!!

You guys spend very little time attacking the facts Moore gives and a lot of time making fun of his appearance too, as if that matters.

So far you're wrong 95% and Moore is 95% right. Unless you want to show us all the "drivel".

And why are you guys so afraid of him? That was my point. You think we're afraid of Rush? Look at how I simply mentioned Moore and got you all off topic.

Fahrenheit 911 was cherry-picked for facts, but what were there were true. The problem with that film was what was not there, leaving only one impression when the whole story had yet to be told.

Sicko was a stretch, and although it contained some basic facts, again it was too lopsided (and sometimes silly).

The only one that I think Michael Moore got right (right-ON) was Bowling for Columbine. Anyone who could face down the iconic Charlton Heston and leave him speechless because of the facts is symbolic of the adage "seeking truth to power."

 

[MaggieMae]

don't you remember the low life way they acted when the Bushes walked out at the inauguration in Jan.? It's nothing more than the same low class behavior.

NOW what are you talking about?

this ocean of badly behaving obamatrons








[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ckQxmU9KM[/ame]

You and your ilk have a real comprehension problem. I watched the entire thing on C-Span, which did the best job panning the how many million? people spread across the Capital Mall, and you find ONE YouTube 30-second blastaflick where someone had a micropohone picking up boos in the crowd and glom onto THAT as it all three million or so people were boo'ing. No, dear, they were not.

 

[WillowTree]

NOW what are you talking about?

this ocean of badly behaving obamatrons








[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07ckQxmU9KM[/ame]

You and your ilk have a real comprehension problem. I watched the entire thing on C-Span, which did the best job panning the how many million? people spread across the Capital Mall, and you find ONE YouTube 30-second blastaflick where someone had a micropohone picking up boos in the crowd and glom onto THAT as it all three million or so people were boo'ing. No, dear, they were not.

nobody claimed 3 million people did it,, the video is what it is,, significant low life behavior,, and they are not Republicans..

 

[MaggieMae]

Not my party Jillian. Steele apologizing was a mistake ....it was a personal mistake on his part. I do believe that Cheney has a right to his opinion on Colin Powell. I have an opinion on Colin Powell. Rush is an entertainer, and he is just expounding on what the left is putting forth..it's entertainment...nothing more, Jillian. Rush is the spokesperson for true conservatism, that's what he is all about... The left must really fear Rush to give him such credibilty.

What I "fear" about Limbaugh is that he seems to have so much influence over so many gullible people. What scares me is the level of intelligence of some of the masses of humanity out there. It seems to me that the days of common sense and rationality don't exist in Limbaugh's "true conservative" country. And it's also scaring the more sane conservatives who want to see the principles of the Grand Old Party not implode in a cesspool of ideological bullshit that doesn't work in the REAL WORLD.

Rush has so much influence over gullible people, and the right still lost the election. Go figure. The level of intellegence of most the masses scares me too. They can be swayed so easily by the NY, and LA times, along with MSNBC, NBC, etc. That scares the hell out of me. Maggie, common sense and rational have left the building on both sides of the isle. Conservatives aren't afraid of imploding, they just need to re educate themselves to the core values. McCain was not part of the core values of conservatives. He should have never won the primaries, but it was the media who helped him along. He was the easiest candidate to beat in the election, and they knew it. Media does have the power to sway people that aren't savy to politics.

I keep waiting for someone to identify those "core values" as they apply to a country of over 300 million diversified people who NEED, not just WANT, good schools, roads and bridges, border security, defense against known foreign enemies, access to reasonably priced health care, better assurance that the food we eat isn't full of critters and toxins, jobs that pay a decent wage, "stuff" to build (not just service), job training for new jobs when old ones "go south," and at the same time maintain a standard of living acceptable to all "classes" of wealth. GOP pollster Frank Luntz researched about a year ago what Americans require, and then after gathering the information, conducted a survey based on those requirements which concluded that most Americans would support higher taxes if necessary to attain it all.

So I keep waiting for your "PLAN" which deals with realistic applications based on the above, not Here's-How-It-SHOULD-Be ideologies.

 

[MaggieMae]

this ocean of badly behaving obamatrons

You and your ilk have a real comprehension problem. I watched the entire thing on C-Span, which did the best job panning the how many million? people spread across the Capital Mall, and you find ONE YouTube 30-second blastaflick where someone had a micropohone picking up boos in the crowd and glom onto THAT as it all three million or so people were boo'ing. No, dear, they were not.

nobody claimed 3 million people did it,, the video is what it is,, significant low life behavior,, and they are not Republicans..

No lowlifes in the Conservative Party. Oh, I get it now.
Heh heh heh.

 

[WillowTree]

You and your ilk have a real comprehension problem. I watched the entire thing on C-Span, which did the best job panning the how many million? people spread across the Capital Mall, and you find ONE YouTube 30-second blastaflick where someone had a micropohone picking up boos in the crowd and glom onto THAT as it all three million or so people were boo'ing. No, dear, they were not.

nobody claimed 3 million people did it,, the video is what it is,, significant low life behavior,, and they are not Republicans..

No lowlifes in the Conservative Party. Oh, I get it now.
Heh heh heh.

do you see any?

 

[Meister]

What I "fear" about Limbaugh is that he seems to have so much influence over so many gullible people. What scares me is the level of intelligence of some of the masses of humanity out there. It seems to me that the days of common sense and rationality don't exist in Limbaugh's "true conservative" country. And it's also scaring the more sane conservatives who want to see the principles of the Grand Old Party not implode in a cesspool of ideological bullshit that doesn't work in the REAL WORLD.

Rush has so much influence over gullible people, and the right still lost the election. Go figure. The level of intellegence of most the masses scares me too. They can be swayed so easily by the NY, and LA times, along with MSNBC, NBC, etc. That scares the hell out of me. Maggie, common sense and rational have left the building on both sides of the isle. Conservatives aren't afraid of imploding, they just need to re educate themselves to the core values. McCain was not part of the core values of conservatives. He should have never won the primaries, but it was the media who helped him along. He was the easiest candidate to beat in the election, and they knew it. Media does have the power to sway people that aren't savy to politics.

I keep waiting for someone to identify those "core values" as they apply to a country of over 300 million diversified people who NEED, not just WANT, good schools, roads and bridges, border security, defense against known foreign enemies, access to reasonably priced health care, better assurance that the food we eat isn't full of critters and toxins, jobs that pay a decent wage, "stuff" to build (not just service), job training for new jobs when old ones "go south," and at the same time maintain a standard of living acceptable to all "classes" of wealth. GOP pollster Frank Luntz researched about a year ago what Americans require, and then after gathering the information, conducted a survey based on those requirements which concluded that most Americans would support higher taxes if necessary to attain it all.

So I keep waiting for your "PLAN" which deals with realistic applications based on the above, not Here's-How-It-SHOULD-Be ideologies.

How about schools with no sto protect the unqualified instructors. Higher pay with performance. Does that sound good to you, Maggie?? How about Instructors teaching their students the 3 R's, and not their politics. Does that sound good to you Maggie? How about job training for the unemployed? How about a welfare system that isn't a career?How about a healthcare system that gives credit to (low wage earners) that can't afford healthcare, and credits to healthcare providers that do provide healthcare to the low wage earners. How does that sound to you Maggie?
I'm all for the roads and bridges. I do want closed borders, but the politicians on each side don't seem to. I want a fair wage for fair days work. I'm not saying that all jobs should be paid the same. When I first started in the job market, it was an entry paying job. I knew I wasn't going to make a career of it. Not all jobs are going to be a career job, Maggie. Your standard of living is as vague as it can get....so I won't even comment on that tripe. I don't feel a crackhead should be living the life of the middle class with the benefits coming from the government.
Maggie our government isn't perfect, and it's not ever going to be. But, we have to live within our means as a country, and as individuals. The country you want will be a 2 class society. The elite, and the lower middle class. Sorry that's not for me. You want to live like that, give your money away...but, I worked hard for mine. I'm not a socialist like you are.
Sidenote for you. Do you think the politicians would accept the healthcare system for themselves that they're going to shove down your throat??? Be honest.