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[Mad Scientist]

Ron Paul could be the greatest President we've had since the Founding Fathers but in this day of T.V. he doesn't have the look or voice. It's the reason our country is so screwed up today. Hopefully the country will come to it's senses before his son RAND is too old to run. I supported RON PAUL in the last election and will support him again if he chooses to run. People tell me a vote for RON PAUL is like a vote for obama, I tell them it's not my fault all the other Republicans are wrong.

Obama has both the "look and the voice" and look what happened, we got Bush II/Carter II.

Bush = wasted vote.
Obama = wasted vote.

Don't listen to these people who say "voting for third parties is a wasted vote".

 

[FreedomAli]

People make fun of Ron Paul and call him a radical because he is against intervention. You intervene domestically by spending trillions and you are a liberal. You intervene internationally spending trillions while slaughtering women and children and you are called a conservative. But if you don't want to intervene at all, they call you a radical. How strange.

But, I guess we can keep printing money out of nothing and act like inflation is some mysterious force of nature as we continue to get poorer.

Edited out by Fox News

Ron Paul - "Let me get this straight. You think we ought to borrow billions from China to prop up a dictator in Pakistan who overthrew a democratically elected government and then spend hundreds of billions in Iraq trying to establish a democracy?"

 

[Defiant1]

Ron Paul could be the greatest President we've had since the Founding Fathers but in this day of T.V. he doesn't have the look or voice. It's the reason our country is so screwed up today. Hopefully the country will come to it's senses before his son RAND is too old to run. I supported RON PAUL in the last election and will support him again if he chooses to run. People tell me a vote for RON PAUL is like a vote for obama, I tell them it's not my fault all the other Republicans are wrong.

Hey, at least all the pot smokers will be happy.

 

[kaz]

if you don't want to intervene at all, they call you a radical. How strange

Yes, as a libertarian it always amuses me when the partyniks call me "extreme" for that reason. I believe in people maximizing personal choice and government only doing what can't practically be done at the individual level like having a defense and police force. Wow, what a whacko. We need government to spend us to oblivion and provide every service we can dream up for it to do, control our bodies and try to turn the world into a democracy by force. That is moderate. Sure.

 

[cutter]

Ron Paul could be the greatest President we've had since the Founding Fathers but in this day of T.V. he doesn't have the look or voice. It's the reason our country is so screwed up today. Hopefully the country will come to it's senses before his son RAND is too old to run. I supported RON PAUL in the last election and will support him again if he chooses to run. People tell me a vote for RON PAUL is like a vote for obama, I tell them it's not my fault all the other Republicans are wrong.

Hey, at least all the pot smokers will be happy.

I don't think too many pot smokers would be attracted to his policy of taking personal responsibility for yourself. They are more the liberal, giveme giveme giveme group.

 

[FreedomAli]

Ron Paul could be the greatest President we've had since the Founding Fathers but in this day of T.V. he doesn't have the look or voice. It's the reason our country is so screwed up today. Hopefully the country will come to it's senses before his son RAND is too old to run. I supported RON PAUL in the last election and will support him again if he chooses to run. People tell me a vote for RON PAUL is like a vote for obama, I tell them it's not my fault all the other Republicans are wrong.

Hey, at least all the pot smokers will be happy.

Hey dummy, you know the tyrants Thomas Jefferson was talking about are the kind that currently run Washington, don't you?

 

[nraforlife]

Ron Paul could be the greatest President we've had since the Founding Fathers but in this day of T.V. he doesn't have the look or voice. It's the reason our country is so screwed up today. Hopefully the country will come to it's senses before his son RAND is too old to run. I supported RON PAUL in the last election and will support him again if he chooses to run. People tell me a vote for RON PAUL is like a vote for obama, I tell them it's not my fault all the other Republicans are wrong.

Hey, at least all the pot smokers will be happy.

Hey dummy, you know the tyrants Thomas Jefferson was talking about are the kind that currently run Washington, don't you?

They are the kind of tyrant who have ruled since their successful coup nearly 50 years ago.

 

[rightwinger]

Ron Paul is a nice old man with some interesting ideas. But in terms of an overall package, he is a lightweight. Many of his ideas relating to foreign policy are just dangerous. His basic premise is we don't need foreign policy and an American return to isolationism
His simplistic solutions to complex issues have broad appeal. But they are still simplistic

 

[kaz]

Ron Paul is a nice old man with some interesting ideas. But in terms of an overall package, he is a lightweight. Many of his ideas relating to foreign policy are just dangerous. His basic premise is we don't need foreign policy and an American return to isolationism
His simplistic solutions to complex issues have broad appeal. But they are still simplistic

Yeah, our foreign policy has been so successful for us and the world, hasn't it? With that record of success, we can't risk trying another idea, that would be "dangerous." Maybe we should try letting people solve their own problems.

As for "isolation," this is the typical brain deal liberal view that if government doesn't do it then it doesn't count. He's not an isolationist, he thinks the American people and business should engage the world. He's not an isolationist, he realizes that the worst solution to everything is what we insist on using as our first solution to everything. Government.

 

[rightwinger]

Ron Paul is a nice old man with some interesting ideas. But in terms of an overall package, he is a lightweight. Many of his ideas relating to foreign policy are just dangerous. His basic premise is we don't need foreign policy and an American return to isolationism
His simplistic solutions to complex issues have broad appeal. But they are still simplistic

Yeah, our foreign policy has been so successful for us and the world, hasn't it? With that record of success, we can't risk trying another idea, that would be "dangerous." Maybe we should try letting people solve their own problems.

As for "isolation," this is the typical brain deal liberal view that if government doesn't do it then it doesn't count. He's not an isolationist, he thinks the American people and business should engage the world. He's not an isolationist, he realizes that the worst solution to everything is what we insist on using as our first solution to everything. Government.

Our foreign policy has positioned the US as the most powerful and influential nation on earth. Not to shabby by any account

 

[kaz]

Ron Paul is a nice old man with some interesting ideas. But in terms of an overall package, he is a lightweight. Many of his ideas relating to foreign policy are just dangerous. His basic premise is we don't need foreign policy and an American return to isolationism
His simplistic solutions to complex issues have broad appeal. But they are still simplistic

Yeah, our foreign policy has been so successful for us and the world, hasn't it? With that record of success, we can't risk trying another idea, that would be "dangerous." Maybe we should try letting people solve their own problems.

As for "isolation," this is the typical brain deal liberal view that if government doesn't do it then it doesn't count. He's not an isolationist, he thinks the American people and business should engage the world. He's not an isolationist, he realizes that the worst solution to everything is what we insist on using as our first solution to everything. Government.

Our foreign policy has positioned the US as the most powerful and influential nation on earth. Not to shabby by any account

It was our foreign policy that made us the most powerful and influential nation on earth? Seriously? How did our "foreign policy" accomplish that? It seems to me it's our economy that made us the most influential and our spending a bunch of that on our military that made us the most powerful. Our foreign political policy seems to accomplish little elsewhere and bring great cost both financially and politically to ourselves. What are these great successes you're looking at?

 

[rightwinger]

Yeah, our foreign policy has been so successful for us and the world, hasn't it? With that record of success, we can't risk trying another idea, that would be "dangerous." Maybe we should try letting people solve their own problems.

As for "isolation," this is the typical brain deal liberal view that if government doesn't do it then it doesn't count. He's not an isolationist, he thinks the American people and business should engage the world. He's not an isolationist, he realizes that the worst solution to everything is what we insist on using as our first solution to everything. Government.

Our foreign policy has positioned the US as the most powerful and influential nation on earth. Not to shabby by any account

It was our foreign policy that made us the most powerful and influential nation on earth? Seriously? How did our "foreign policy" accomplish that? It seems to me it's our economy that made us the most influential and our spending a bunch of that on our military that made us the most powerful. Our foreign political policy seems to accomplish little elsewhere and bring great cost both financially and politically to ourselves. What are these great successes you're looking at?

Ever hear about WWII?
The Marshall Plan?

Lead to our emergence as a Super Power

 

[kaz]

Our foreign policy has positioned the US as the most powerful and influential nation on earth. Not to shabby by any account

It was our foreign policy that made us the most powerful and influential nation on earth? Seriously? How did our "foreign policy" accomplish that? It seems to me it's our economy that made us the most influential and our spending a bunch of that on our military that made us the most powerful. Our foreign political policy seems to accomplish little elsewhere and bring great cost both financially and politically to ourselves. What are these great successes you're looking at?

Ever hear about WWII?
The Marshall Plan?

Lead to our emergence as a Super Power

So the latest foreign policy triumph making this country great you can think of was the military and not diplomacy and...it was 65 years ago? So I can take this as your admission of defeat?

 

[rightwinger]

It was our foreign policy that made us the most powerful and influential nation on earth? Seriously? How did our "foreign policy" accomplish that? It seems to me it's our economy that made us the most influential and our spending a bunch of that on our military that made us the most powerful. Our foreign political policy seems to accomplish little elsewhere and bring great cost both financially and politically to ourselves. What are these great successes you're looking at?

Ever hear about WWII?
The Marshall Plan?

Lead to our emergence as a Super Power

So the latest foreign policy triumph making this country great you can think of was the military and not diplomacy and...it was 65 years ago? So I can take this as your admission of defeat?

Nope

Watershed events that lead to our emergence as superpower

 

[FreedomAli]

WWII made everyone poorer, forced other countries to surrender imperial holdings and caused them to have to borrow from us. War does not make nations more prosperous, except in the way hurricanes, tsunamis, and plagues do.

 

[kaz]

Ever hear about WWII?
The Marshall Plan?

Lead to our emergence as a Super Power

So the latest foreign policy triumph making this country great you can think of was the military and not diplomacy and...it was 65 years ago? So I can take this as your admission of defeat?

Nope

Watershed events that lead to our emergence as superpower

Which wasn't the question. I didn't challenge that we are a superpower. You said our foreign policy made us the most influential and powerful nation on earth. Arguing we're a superpower doesn't establish that it was our foreign policy that cause that. I argued it was our economy and investment in our military.

I'm curious though. Do you ever actually read posts you're debating and think about your answer or do you read a couple key words and write down whatever the first thing is that pops into your head? I know which one it appears happens...

 

[Luissa]

...............................But Goldberg is not alone; among his peers; it is difficult to find anyone who does not shrug off Paul as anything more than a nuisance. In my opinion, that is a big mistake. First and foremost, among contemporary politicians, Paul is the most zealous defender of individual liberty as it was classically defined and understood by the founders. In a country where 50% of the citizens pay no income tax and the redistribution of wealth has become standard operating procedure, conservatives should cheer when a politician has the courage to proclaim, "The government should not be able to do anything that an individual cannot do [without committing a crime]"............................

The above is part of a rare piece of truly conservative opinion at American Thinker.

American Thinker: The Curious Case of Ron Paul

These folks boast and preen about how 'conservative' they are when in fact their strain of neoconservative Statism is nearly as septic as that of 'ex'-marxist David Horowitz at frontpagemag.com- the homepage for all nominal 'americans' who would throw America under the bus in a heartbeat to please israel. FrontPage Magazine

More interesting still are the responses from 'conservatives' whose heads are almost exploding at the thought of kind words for an American Patriot who questions wars of choice and $1TRILLION/yr military spending.

If only Dr. Paul were 20 years younger or America had begun to wake up 20 years ago....................

I would have a lot more respect for the party if they got behind Ron Paul.

 

[LibocalypseNow]

Ron Paul is the only Politician worth listening to these days. Personally i'm completely sick of the Socialists/Progressives and Neocons. To me,there isn't much difference between the two. Oh they both like to pretend they're so different but in the end they agree on much more than they disagree on. When Dr. Paul speaks,i listen. When the rest speak,i just change the channel. They're not saying anything i haven't already heard for years. It's just the same ole shit coming from different faces. I'm a Paulitician for life.

 

[FreedomAli]

Ron Paul is the only Politician worth listening to these days. Personally i'm completely sick of the Socialists/Progressives and Neocons. To me,there isn't much difference between the two. Oh they both like to pretend they're so different but in the end they agree on much more than they disagree on. When Dr. Paul speaks,i listen. When the rest speak,i just change the channel. They're not saying anything i haven't already heard for years. It's just the same ole shit coming from different faces. I'm a Paulitician for life.

I have been following Ron Paul for 15 years and he has been my hero. Everybody thinks he is a radical for supporting non-interventionism, and while people rarely consider the issue of catallactics in economics, they never consider how government intervention creates false "economies" and exchange rations in all areas or human endeavor. We create an entire false economy in the war on drugs and then build prisons, hire more police, probation officers, parole officers, correction officers, make new laws, get new prison doctors, nurses, psychiatrists, psychologists, engineers, janitors, construction workers, vehicle, retirements and medical insurance. Every person then wants more funding, more raises, more power and better retirement benefits. We then distort the economy and use for to violate peoples' rights and police and prosecutors become criminals by abusing their authority and often trying to convict innocent people.

We fund dictators thinking it is buying security, but then we find we funded torturous and murderous dictators whose citizens despise us for funding their oppression and we eventually discover that the security was another illusion, another bubble bought with taxpayer money and when a whistleblower shows us the lie the government has passed as being stability, instead of questioning the government we want to execute the messenger.

Reality has a way of balancing and creating realistic exchange ratios so as to prevent diminishing returns or underfunding things that are beneficial. But, a good deal of human endeavor becomes enigmatic because we distort it with government intervention.

We now have the highest prison population and now are seeking to allow corporations to make inmates slaves for the benefit of those corporations. These corporations will try to keep their slave labor by making new rules while we allow them to keep people in jail for their financial interest.

When Americans wake up an realize how we are manipulated by the elite, then something will be done. We need more people to lose their homes and jobs and be reduced to complete poverty before the revolution can begin.

Until then the haters can keep hating Ron Paul for being right.

 

[nraforlife]

sorry thing is were Dr Paul start to get traction with the mass of The American People in the next year or so its very likely he would have a heart attack, crash in a private plane, be attacked by a gun nut at a public event...... or some such event which would remove him from the public scene.