Lies just a reminder for those with memory issues

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I have no idea who you are.

Then you're a stupid phony lying fuckbag.

What really is a Fuckbag?



*****Damn, this site might be too intellectual for me to keep up*****

might?

 

[uscitizen]

from your current arguments it would be hard to tell you were always against the war.
I guess you can be a republican apologist and still be against the war?

So, not allowing democrat dickheads like you to shift the blame for your complicity in international warmongering is now acting as an apologist for republicans?

goddamn, are you one stupid sumbitch.

Ahh yes, but my one saving grace is I am smarter than you.

 

[NYcarbineer]

2003 invasion of Iraq - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Phony lying hack fuckbag.

Holy fuck, you're even dumber than I thought and you weren't doing that well beforehand.

You cut this quote IN HALF!!??

The Authorization for Use of Military Force Against Iraq Resolution of 2002 was passed by congress with Democrats voting 58% in favor in the Senate, and 61% opposed in the House

And you know what that adds up to? 147 Democrats voting against the war 110 voting for it.

So what again was my lie when I said MOST DEMOCRATS VOTED AGAINST THE WAR??

Way to move the goalposts, asshole.

My comment was stated in terms of the Senate action, which ended up with a 28-21 democrat vote in favor.

No, you called me a liar for saying that most Democrats voted against the war resolution.

That was wrong.

Then, you backed it up by posting HALF a quote (in this day and age on a political messageboard some imbecile thinks he can get away with that...go figure) that omitted just enough information to support YOUR lie.

That was wrong.

 

[Oddball]

from your current arguments it would be hard to tell you were always against the war.
I guess you can be a republican apologist and still be against the war?

So, not allowing democrat dickheads like you to shift the blame for your complicity in international warmongering is now acting as an apologist for republicans?

goddamn, are you one stupid sumbitch.

Ahh yes, but my one saving grace is I am smarter than you.

Only in your dreams, Gomer.

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just another nail in the coffin of this wingnut myth that Democrats are to blame for the Iraq war:

Gallup Poll November 2002:

On the general question of invading Iraq with U.S. ground troops to remove Saddam Hussein from power, Republicans are in favor by 71% to 22%, and independents by 59% to 36%. Democrats oppose the action, by 52% to 43%.


http://media.gallup.com/POLL/Releases/pr021112v.gif

...not that the deniers won't inevitably pry the lid off the coffin and re-emerge.

 

[Big Fitz]

Just another nail in the coffin of this wingnut myth that Democrats are to blame for the Iraq war:

Gallup Poll November 2002:

On the general question of invading Iraq with U.S. ground troops to remove Saddam Hussein from power, Republicans are in favor by 71% to 22%, and independents by 59% to 36%. Democrats oppose the action, by 52% to 43%.


http://media.gallup.com/POLL/Releases/pr021112v.gif

...not that the deniers won't inevitably pry the lid off the coffin and re-emerge.

Nope. One in agreement makes it completely bipartisan. Your dipshits in Washington taught us that.

Oh wait we don't get to engage in the same lies?

 

[jillian]

Prety pathetic right wingnuts....pretty pathetic

Yet, nothing compares to the pathetic debate between "Right" and "Left" about who tells the smaller lies, and who wastes the least of Billion$, and justifies additional spending based on the fact it doesn't exceed the other side's spending.

For christssakes, how about NOT spending.....In fact, how about just working within a fucking budget? Does it really matter whether or not we call each other "Left" or "Right" or "Republican" or "Democrat" to understand this simple concept?

unless of course, spending is what needs to be done.

then what gets cut?

no one ever wants the things that matter to them to be cut off...

 

[Yurt]

Just another nail in the coffin of this wingnut myth that Democrats are to blame for the Iraq war:

Gallup Poll November 2002:

On the general question of invading Iraq with U.S. ground troops to remove Saddam Hussein from power, Republicans are in favor by 71% to 22%, and independents by 59% to 36%. Democrats oppose the action, by 52% to 43%.


http://media.gallup.com/POLL/Releases/pr021112v.gif

...not that the deniers won't inevitably pry the lid off the coffin and re-emerge.

you're such an idiot....nobody said the dems are to blame....rather, that the dems also said the same quote/unquote lies as the republicans

 

[rdean]

Speaking of party man hack dingleberries with memory issues:


"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
-- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
-- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998

"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
-- Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
-- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton, signed by Democratic Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others, Oct. 9, 1998

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999

"There is no doubt that ... Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), and others, Dec 5, 2001

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
-- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002

"He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do"
-- Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002

"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real..."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003

You can throw out all the quotes you want, but it doesn't change the fact that it was the Republicans who lied us into invading another country, turning it into an Islamic religious theocracy and leaving America to foot the bill. THAT IS THE REALITY. That is why Republicans should feel shame, but don't have enough sense.

And now, they want to "finish the job"? What could possibly top that? What is their next "act"? Armageddon?

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just another nail in the coffin of this wingnut myth that Democrats are to blame for the Iraq war:

Gallup Poll November 2002:

On the general question of invading Iraq with U.S. ground troops to remove Saddam Hussein from power, Republicans are in favor by 71% to 22%, and independents by 59% to 36%. Democrats oppose the action, by 52% to 43%.


http://media.gallup.com/POLL/Releases/pr021112v.gif

...not that the deniers won't inevitably pry the lid off the coffin and re-emerge.

you're such an idiot....nobody said the dems are to blame....rather, that the dems also said the same quote/unquote lies as the republicans

Now how would you know whether or not I've heard rightwingers try to blame the Democrats for the war? And number 2, can't you read???

 

[NYcarbineer]

Just another nail in the coffin of this wingnut myth that Democrats are to blame for the Iraq war:

Gallup Poll November 2002:

On the general question of invading Iraq with U.S. ground troops to remove Saddam Hussein from power, Republicans are in favor by 71% to 22%, and independents by 59% to 36%. Democrats oppose the action, by 52% to 43%.


http://media.gallup.com/POLL/Releases/pr021112v.gif

...not that the deniers won't inevitably pry the lid off the coffin and re-emerge.

Nope. One in agreement makes it completely bipartisan. Your dipshits in Washington taught us that.

Oh wait we don't get to engage in the same lies?

Your post is an irrelevant outburst of verbal Tourette's.

 

[DiamondDave]

Please tell me you are not going to start a "yellow cake" argument?

The mere possession of it, plus older piles of chem weapons and delivery systems were in direct violation... let alone the violations when Saddam delayed the inspections...

Again.. the sonofabitch should have been taken out when we were over there the first time...

Oh Lord....we did not have the authority to "take him out". That was NOT our mission at the time.

Sorry to tell you.. BUT the UN is NOT the end-all-be-all world total control government that you lefties want it to be... as a matter of fact the UN should be kissing OUR ass since we are the ones who pay for just about the whole thing

 

[DiamondDave]

How many dems in congress voted for the war authorization vs how many Republicans?

And more lies we forget " You are either with us or for the terrorists" GWB

Freedom fries....

Unamerican...

Are you serious?

It was DEMOCRATS who demanded that a whole new debate and vote be held in the Senate (#10 has some direct quotes from those sessions), in advance of the 2002 elections, so they could be on record as saying "MEETOOMEETOO!" for an Iraq land invasion.

And you now have the nerve to accuse others of having memory issues?

Most Democrats voted against the Iraq war.

I find it sadly hilarious how many I-was-always-anti-Iraq war conservatives have come out of the woodwork in recent times.

Proud to say I was always 'pro war' and was actually there with my military brothers and sisters actually IN IT...

 

[L.K.Eder]

The mere possession of it, plus older piles of chem weapons and delivery systems were in direct violation... let alone the violations when Saddam delayed the inspections...

Again.. the sonofabitch should have been taken out when we were over there the first time...

Oh Lord....we did not have the authority to "take him out". That was NOT our mission at the time.

Sorry to tell you.. BUT the UN is NOT the end-all-be-all world total control government that you lefties want it to be... as a matter of fact the UN should be kissing OUR ass since we are the ones who pay for just about the whole thing

just about the whole thing = 22.00 % ?

 

[VaYank5150]

The mere possession of it, plus older piles of chem weapons and delivery systems were in direct violation... let alone the violations when Saddam delayed the inspections...

Again.. the sonofabitch should have been taken out when we were over there the first time...

Oh Lord....we did not have the authority to "take him out". That was NOT our mission at the time.

Sorry to tell you.. BUT the UN is NOT the end-all-be-all world total control government that you lefties want it to be... as a matter of fact the UN should be kissing OUR ass since we are the ones who pay for just about the whole thing

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. What is your point and what does it have to do with my post?

 

[DiamondDave]

Oh Lord....we did not have the authority to "take him out". That was NOT our mission at the time.

Sorry to tell you.. BUT the UN is NOT the end-all-be-all world total control government that you lefties want it to be... as a matter of fact the UN should be kissing OUR ass since we are the ones who pay for just about the whole thing

I agree wholeheartedly with this statement. What is your point and what does it have to do with my post?

Because it 'not being the mission' was thanks to UN 'influence'.... We were ready, and prepared, to march straight to Baghdad... hate to tell you, but we did have it drawn up to do so... it was caving to UN 'feelings' that prevented it

 

[DiamondDave]

Oh Lord....we did not have the authority to "take him out". That was NOT our mission at the time.

Sorry to tell you.. BUT the UN is NOT the end-all-be-all world total control government that you lefties want it to be... as a matter of fact the UN should be kissing OUR ass since we are the ones who pay for just about the whole thing

just about the whole thing = 22.00 % ?

Yet we do the majority of their requested activities.. we gave them their HQ... etc

 

[NYcarbineer]

Are you serious?

It was DEMOCRATS who demanded that a whole new debate and vote be held in the Senate (#10 has some direct quotes from those sessions), in advance of the 2002 elections, so they could be on record as saying "MEETOOMEETOO!" for an Iraq land invasion.

And you now have the nerve to accuse others of having memory issues?

Most Democrats voted against the Iraq war.

I find it sadly hilarious how many I-was-always-anti-Iraq war conservatives have come out of the woodwork in recent times.

Proud to say I was always 'pro war' and was actually there with my military brothers and sisters actually IN IT...

Yeah well, you were wrong.

 

[DiamondDave]

Most Democrats voted against the Iraq war.

I find it sadly hilarious how many I-was-always-anti-Iraq war conservatives have come out of the woodwork in recent times.

Proud to say I was always 'pro war' and was actually there with my military brothers and sisters actually IN IT...

Yeah well, you were wrong.

Yeah.. .it's wrong to come to the aid of a country being invaded, when they ask for help... wrong to remove the despots that are behind these acts...
What was wrong was not finishing the job completely and right the first time

Go back to mommy's basement and find the other birkenstock you misplaced during your last stoner fest

 

[Oldandtired]

Proud to say I was always 'pro war' and was actually there with my military brothers and sisters actually IN IT...

Yeah well, you were wrong.

Yeah.. .it's wrong to come to the aid of a country being invaded, when they ask for help... wrong to remove the despots that are behind these acts...
What was wrong was not finishing the job completely and right the first time

Go back to mommy's basement and find the other birkenstock you misplaced during your last stoner fest

I wonder how the world would be today if we just sat back anbd allowed Hitler to walk through Europe.

Sadly, those "lessons learned" back then have been forgotten. Amazing how partisanship completely trumps rational thinking.