Libya Goes Islamic And We Helped Pave The Way

[paulitician]

Weird how Left/Democrats don't mind Sharia Law. I don't get it. They're usually the first ones to debase religious persons. Is that only for American Christians? Weird stuff.

 

[logical4u]

Carter paved the way for modern day Iran
Papa is doing even more to look like Carter

That's very untrue....it was Eisenhower, Kennedy, and Nixon's support of the Shah of Iran, that caused Islamic revolutionaries in Iran to hate the US, and that paved the way for modern day Iran.

"WEAK" leaders encourage the ruthless to move (usurp). Jimmy Carter would not stop the Shah's overthrow from ruthless Shariah law based bullies (against a huge percentage of the population in Iran).

The "WEAK" one in the white house has encouraged radicals all over the world to move. Take a look at any country in the world, is law and order being encouraged, or is credit being given to the most obnoxious, the most ruthless, and the rudest people? Open your eyes; weakness invites mob activity and takeovers.

I read an article recently on how the french revolution was the result of a weak leader, the king. Also the Bolshevik revolution rose in response to a weak Czar. The problem with those types of revolution: they are not about "peace"; they are about taking what other people have earned and saved. The people of "property" are brutally murdered. The people that relied on them are converted to thugs, or left to starve, just historical facts. China, Cuba, currently Venezuela, all went thru similar uprisings. The people will or have suffered for decades following "cleansing" of anyone that would not submit (kind of like islamic takeovers).

Do you support the "WEAK" one?

 

[bodecea]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

 

[logical4u]

However.......Islamic states that practice Sharia Law push out terrorists by the thousands in their religious schools and universities. It doesn't seem to matter if they're well off or not, educated or not. They still hate us because they hate anyone who's different.

Sharia law means different things to different people and different countries practice it with differing strictness. All devout Muslims say they want Sharia law. It would be no different than a Christian saying they want the law to be based on the Bible. They may not favor a strict interpretation, but they still favor it on principle. It's not a perfect comparison, but it's not apples and oranges either.

There are nine states that practice strict Sharia law (defined as the death penalty for blasphemy, in this instance). These states do not have a 100% literal interpretation, but it's the closest the modern world comes. All these states produce a lot of terrorists (Afghanistan, Bahrain, Iran, Mauritania, Oman, Pakistan, Yemen, Saudi Arabia). But there are many countries that have a lot of Islam-inspired terrorists that do not follow strict Sharia Law. Lebanon is the first country to come to mind.

I would say it is fair to say the two have a root cause (a large number of religious extremists), but that the two do not cause each other. So, we'll have to take this on a case-by-case basis and watch the situations very closely. I think Libya is more likely to become a terrorist nest than Tunisia, despite both wanting to turn to Sharia law.

Something else to keep in mind. Most of these "terrorist-producing" schools tend to be funded with oil money. The Saudis build many of the schools in Pakistan, which in turn build the schools in Afghanistan. In this way, it'll be more important to watch Libya closely.

Carter paved the way for modern day Iran
Papa is doing even more to look like Carter

Truman/Eisenhower paved the way for modern-day Iran.

Look, where ever Christian communities (notice this is not including communities where the leader proclaims himself to be "man's son" of the like) began, people wanted to join the community. The communities were poductive, considerate, and generous. The majority of this country's original states had a religious community at its base. People traveled at great peril to join those communities because they believed in a similar manner or knew there would be great opportunites for them and their families (and that wealth would not be taken from them by the community). Because of Christian = traditional values, this country became the greatest nation ever known to man. It offers more freedom, liberty and opportunity than any muslim nation ever know.

Now, seriously, lets look at muslim communities: there are a few that are wealthy, they work very hard to keep the rest of the community below the poverty line, tell them how to think, what branch of islam to follow, and if they don't they are "punished" or murdered.
Because it would be too horrible to murder all the young men growing in a community (the parents would revolt if it was this obvious), muslim communities "export" terrorists. They are trained to collect money and funnel it to communities to "recruit" (eliminate) the younger population of muslim communities. Some of that money is also fed back to their families, so the families think that islam is great. Islam communities cannot seperate spiritual beliefs from Shariah law without being murdered. Islam promotes deceit, decay, destruction and death. That is a far cry from Christian communities that promote production, construction, open dialog, and life.

Islamic Shariah law corrupts anyplace that it is practiced (it targets half the population for torture and inhumane treatment),
It encourages deceit about family members, neighbors, and "non-believers".
It encourages rape and mutilation of women.
It turns a blind eye to the molestation and rapes of boys and men (non-believers).
It has no justice (only the opinions of the ruling religious leaders).
There is no appeal process.
The "mobs"/legion are encouraged to do violence and crimes in the streets.
It eliminates freedom.
It eliminates liberty.


You will probably ignore this post. You will probably never do the research to check for the truth on your own. You are part of the 99%.

 

[logical4u]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

Hitler had his own belief system and chose how to practice it. We had the power to stop him and did. Were we wrong to stop that "faith"?

Funny, people like you want to cry when ever they have the press throw a genocide in the news that the press wants stopped. When the systematic elimination of Christians, Hindus, and Buddhists is being done by islamic hands, you choose to ignore it.

Radical islam is on the march. It has declared war on this country and all its inhabitants. Those that practice "islam" support those extremists with their charity money that is required to be given as religious practice (they might not have a say where the money goes, but it does go to groups that practice terrorism). Radical islam is taking the ME, and every place it takes, thousands are murdered for not agreeing with the leaders. The exports from these Shariah law based countries: terrorists. The cycle continues.

At what point do "you" want to stop them? Do you want to stop them when they have taken over the ME, and murdered every Jew? Do you want to stop them when they have taken over the ME, and the continent of Africa, enslaving all the blacks that do not agree with their "faith"? Do you want to stop them after they have taken the ME, the continent of Africa, and Europe? Do you want to stop them after they have taken the ME, the continent of Africa, Europe, and South America? Do you want to stop them after they have taken the ME, the continent of Africa, Europe, South America, and Canada? Do you want to stop them after they have taken the ME, the continent of Africa, Europe, South America, Canada, and Russia? Do you want to stop them after they have taken the ME, the continent of Africa, Europe, South America, Canada, Russia and China? Do you want to stop them after they have taken the ME, the continent of Africa, Europe, South America, Canada, Russia and China? Do you want to stop them after they have taken the ME, the continent of Africa, Europe, South America, Canada, Russia, China and trying to take the USA? Tell us, when will you "stand up" to tyranny? You are responding like those that ignored Hitler when he took over his neighbors.

Please answer, I would really like to know how much bloodshed you are willing to accept.

 

[paulitician]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

I didn't support this illegal war but if we're paying for it then yes we do have the right to tell them we will not allow Sharia Law. Why did we win this war for them? What was the point? If American Citizens have no say,why were they forced to pay for it? See,this is why i cannot support this awful Foreign Interventionist Foreign Policy. We pay for these wars in both blood & treasure. So Americans Citizens should absolutely have their say in what happens in these nations.

I mean are we really supposed to just pay up and then shut up? Sorry,i'm not buying that. These are our new puppets so now it's time for Americans to see some benefit. But they shouldn't be doing these illegal interventions anyway. There have been no returns on American investments in these nations. I know some fatcats get rich but the average American Citizen sees no benefit at all. Time for a big overhaul in our Foreign Policy.

 

[High_Gravity]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

I don't think we should tell them what to do but at the same time if we are pouring billions of dollars of American money into these countries we should at least have a say, without American money most of these countries would be even bigger shit holes than they are now.

 

[traveler52]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

Somehow, people came to believe that as long as The Good Ol' U.S. of A. was doing, it was alright.

How many times, over the years have we heard, "We're Giving Them Democracy"? If "We" are giving something, it is just as easy to take that something away as well.

Democracy Is The Will of The People, NOT the Right of The Government.

The same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who will rant on about "Sharia Law", are the same people who impose upon the Citizens of The United States, their version of their god.

The same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who condemn any act of "Islamic Terrorism", turn a convenient blind eye to acts of Right Wing Terrorism in the U.S.

The same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who demand that there has to be a Constitutional Amendment Banning Abortion, are the same people who "Hate Big Government". Who "Do Not Want the Government Making Medical Decisions". Who "Do Not Want The Government In The Doctor's Office".

These people are the first to talk about Rights and Personal Freedom, while at the same they are more than willing to deny those Rights and Personal Freedom to any person who does not fit into their very narrow mined view of American Life.

 

[WillowTree]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

Who did that? Link?

 

[traveler52]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

I don't think we should tell them what to do but at the same time if we are pouring billions of dollars of American money into these countries we should at least have a say, without American money most of these countries would be even bigger shit holes than they are now.

You do realize that in the space of just one sentence, you contradicted yourself?

The Individual Right To Self-Determination is exactly that. The U.S. has No Right, or Purpose of Right in telling Other Countries how to govern themselves.

 

[WillowTree]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

I don't think we should tell them what to do but at the same time if we are pouring billions of dollars of American money into these countries we should at least have a say, without American money most of these countries would be even bigger shit holes than they are now.

I disagree HG. We should not give advice or money. Let them hoe their own row.

 

[The T]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

I don't think we should tell them what to do but at the same time if we are pouring billions of dollars of American money into these countries we should at least have a say, without American money most of these countries would be even bigger shit holes than they are now.

You do realize that in the space of just one sentence, you contradicted yourself?

The Individual Right To Self-Determination is exactly that. The U.S. has No Right, or Purpose of Right in telling Other Countries how to govern themselves.

They should however assist those that seek Liberty, short of military intervention.

 

[logical4u]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

Somehow, people came to believe that as long as The Good Ol' U.S. of A. was doing, it was alright.

How many times, over the years have we heard, "We're Giving Them Democracy"? If "We" are giving something, it is just as easy to take that something away as well.

Democracy Is The Will of The People, NOT the Right of The Government.

The same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who will rant on about "Sharia Law", are the same people who impose upon the Citizens of The United States, their version of their god.

The same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who condemn any act of "Islamic Terrorism", turn a convenient blind eye to acts of Right Wing Terrorism in the U.S.

The same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who demand that there has to be a Constitutional Amendment Banning Abortion, are the same people who "Hate Big Government". Who "Do Not Want the Government Making Medical Decisions". Who "Do Not Want The Government In The Doctor's Office".

These people are the first to talk about Rights and Personal Freedom, while at the same they are more than willing to deny those Rights and Personal Freedom to any person who does not fit into their very narrow mined view of American Life.

...."same people who impose upon the Citizens of The United States, their version of their god. "

Where has anyone "imposed" their version of the Lord upon the Citizens of the USA? What law states how you should worship (or if you should worship at all)?

The other side of the coin?????????????????????????????????????
What four Christians have held a bound man, while a fifth Christian sawed off his head the whole time doing a SATANIC chant about how great their Lord was?
What Christian community murdered an unbeliever and several of the people ripped out the entrails and held them up as trophies, or rubbed their hands in the murdered persons blood, and went around, proud of the display?
What Christian community is systematically destroying "non-believers" places of worship, businesses, and homes while the Christian gov't turns a blind eye?
What Christian community beats women, publicly, because they disagree with the way she is dressed?
etc, etc, etc


..."same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who condemn any act of "Islamic Terrorism", turn a convenient blind eye to acts of Right Wing Terrorism in the U.S. "

Do you have any, ANY evidence where these people are harboring "Right wing terrorists"? Because I can show you clip, after clip of those same people denouncing violence, and in some cases, stepping in and physically stopping the abuse of others. Can you show me the dems/progressives/liberals/islamic extremists/homosexual activists/communists/socialists that are denouncing the flea party (OWS)?


..."who demand that there has to be a Constitutional Amendment Banning Abortion, are the same people who "Hate Big Government".... "

I think that you would find, that most are not interested in seeing abortion "banned". Most simply do not want "their tax dollars" or "their government" to pay for the butchery of unborn children.

"These people are the first to talk about Rights and Personal Freedom, while at the same they are more than willing to deny those Rights and Personal Freedom to any person who does not fit into their very narrow mined view of American Life."

What groups support the Constitution (and the Bill of Rights) and which groups, want to "selectively" apply the laws? Which groups want to use the government to forcibly take the fruits of labor from one group, and "give" it to another group? Which group supports opportunity for every American, and which group supports "punishing" the productive?

Hey, but don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

 

[The T]

I am totally amazed by the people....so-called Americans...who seem to think that we have the right and the power to tell other countries what kind of religion they can have, and how they can practice it.

Isn't that just the other side of the coin from the Islamic radicals?

Somehow, people came to believe that as long as The Good Ol' U.S. of A. was doing, it was alright.

How many times, over the years have we heard, "We're Giving Them Democracy"? If "We" are giving something, it is just as easy to take that something away as well.

Democracy Is The Will of The People, NOT the Right of The Government.

The same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who will rant on about "Sharia Law", are the same people who impose upon the Citizens of The United States, their version of their god.

The same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who condemn any act of "Islamic Terrorism", turn a convenient blind eye to acts of Right Wing Terrorism in the U.S.

The same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who demand that there has to be a Constitutional Amendment Banning Abortion, are the same people who "Hate Big Government". Who "Do Not Want the Government Making Medical Decisions". Who "Do Not Want The Government In The Doctor's Office".

These people are the first to talk about Rights and Personal Freedom, while at the same they are more than willing to deny those Rights and Personal Freedom to any person who does not fit into their very narrow mined view of American Life.

...."same people who impose upon the Citizens of The United States, their version of their god. "

Where has anyone "imposed" their version of the Lord upon the Citizens of the USA? What law states how you should worship (or if you should worship at all)?

The other side of the coin?????????????????????????????????????
What four Christians have held a bound man, while a fifth Christian sawed off his head the whole time doing a SATANIC chant about how great their Lord was?
What Christian community murdered an unbeliever and several of the people ripped out the entrails and held them up as trophies, or rubbed their hands in the murdered persons blood, and went around, proud of the display?
What Christian community is systematically destroying "non-believers" places of worship, businesses, and homes while the Christian gov't turns a blind eye?
What Christian community beats women, publicly, because they disagree with the way she is dressed?
etc, etc, etc


..."same People (ConJobs/NeoNuts/RePugs/TeaHadists) who condemn any act of "Islamic Terrorism", turn a convenient blind eye to acts of Right Wing Terrorism in the U.S. "

Do you have any, ANY evidence where these people are harboring "Right wing terrorists"? Because I can show you clip, after clip of those same people denouncing violence, and in some cases, stepping in and physically stopping the abuse of others. Can you show me the dems/progressives/liberals/islamic extremists/homosexual activists/communists/socialists that are denouncing the flea party (OWS)?


..."who demand that there has to be a Constitutional Amendment Banning Abortion, are the same people who "Hate Big Government".... "

I think that you would find, that most are not interested in seeing abortion "banned". Most simply do not want "their tax dollars" or "their government" to pay for the butchery of unborn children.

"These people are the first to talk about Rights and Personal Freedom, while at the same they are more than willing to deny those Rights and Personal Freedom to any person who does not fit into their very narrow mined view of American Life."

What groups support the Constitution (and the Bill of Rights) and which groups, want to "selectively" apply the laws? Which groups want to use the government to forcibly take the fruits of labor from one group, and "give" it to another group? Which group supports opportunity for every American, and which group supports "punishing" the productive?

Hey, but don't let the truth get in the way of a good story.

Coincidence that the left is so afraid of a 'Theocracy' that they are afraid to chastise the true preveyors of it? (And 'preveyors' it aren't the GOP as they have insisted for decades)