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As are there when democrats propose an increase in taxes. Touche....Whenever you hear "cut spending to the bone" from the GOP...just know there are consequences.
Shut up....In the wake of the Amtrak tragedy Democrats have been holding it up as an example of broken infrastructure and say we need to raise more taxes to invest into infrastructure like China does. Well perhaps if China did not have all of our manufacturing jobs we would have a local tax base that could pay for infrastructure and education. Only 14 Dem's bolted on Pacific trade bill that will lose more American jobs. Brilliant...just fucking brilliant.
Liberals scream: "SPEND MORE!" > . <
And you scream: Cut, slash and burn! Of course, that will make us a third world country! And of course you will blame the democrats for it.
Now chew on that moron!
Most of the money was spent on saving public sector jobs, particularly those held by members of public employee unions. Jobs that are for the most part now gone.And assholes like you scream that it is all a boondoggle and we shouldn't invest in our own country. Even bridges that are highly needed or more money to upgrade them to be able to handle a future earth quake = boondoggle! You spent how much on infrastructure in Iraq? SO you have no effin room to whine!
We spend about 2-3% of the federal budget on infrastructure. If we wish to have the best,,,well, we better be ready to pay for it. Of course, you don't want us to be the best! Your plan is Slash, cut and burn!!!
I thought Obamas stimulus plan was suppossed to be a job creating shovel ready infrastructure plan. Guess they needed to plan that a little better.
On a loss of $500 billion...And the virtual zero tax rate paid by GE because that company promised Obama it would buy into the Chose One's green initiative bullshit? How much is THAT costing American taxpayers?Obama has spent about 159 billion dollars on failed renewable energy projects (Solyndra, Abound Solar, Fiskar, etc).
$159 billion? Got a link for that?
That program was actually profitable for the US government:U.S. Expects 5 Billion From Program That Funded Solyndra - Bloomberg Business
The U.S. government expects to earn $5 billion to $6 billion from the renewable-energy loan program that funded flops including Solyndra LLC, supporting President Barack Obama’s decision to back low-carbon technologies.
Who is "we"?About a trillion in stimulus bucks to fix our infrastructure crisis and this is what we got?
We need a Congressional investigation to see who actually got the money!
~100 billion more for about a year. And as of today we're spending at the lowest level in over 2 decades. So extremely short lived.. And yes, we do need a investigation into this as most of it didn't go into infrastructure, science, r&d, etc. A little secret,,,Wall street, banks, nation building in Iraq and welfare!
Real jobs? Are you fucking kidding?What would be the consequences to cutting ........ the care and support of illegal immigrants, building mosques on foreign soil, supplying weapons to drug lords and terrorists, most of the foreign aid given to foreign governments, exploring the far reaches of the universe, stupid projects such as the fence along our southern border, no-bid government contracts, unnecessary military spending, subsidies to rich farmers and big oil, bribes paid to North Korea and Iran, unnecessary government travel, the ridiculous perks and benefits given to members of Congress, lavish White House vacations, studying the sex habits of cockroaches, looking for water on the surface of Mars, and giving tax refunds to dead people?Whenever you hear "cut spending to the bone" from the GOP...just know there are consequences.
Nothing wrong with r&d and exploration. Both make real jobs and add to the strength of our nation..The rest you may have a point.
Well. That furlough is a good thing. Why should the taxpayers continue funding a salary for a job that is no longer needed?What would be the consequences to cutting ........ the care and support of illegal immigrants, building mosques on foreign soil, supplying weapons to drug lords and terrorists, most of the foreign aid given to foreign governments, exploring the far reaches of the universe, stupid projects such as the fence along our southern border, no-bid government contracts, unnecessary military spending, subsidies to rich farmers and big oil, bribes paid to North Korea and Iran, unnecessary government travel, the ridiculous perks and benefits given to members of Congress, lavish White House vacations, studying the sex habits of cockroaches, looking for water on the surface of Mars, and giving tax refunds to dead people?Whenever you hear "cut spending to the bone" from the GOP...just know there are consequences.
Well Sonny...
I see you're back to your gloom and doom mindset. I'll take the first and last.
When I worked in public health, we had a refugee program that provided medications to refugees that were anti-parasite, anti-fungal, and anti-bacterial. The thought was that if you are going to have these people in the community since we didn't build that "stupid fence", it was better to have them without tapeworms. Not sure how many lives we saved but I would put it in the hundreds.
And the tax refunds to dead people. When you hear about the GOP talking about "cutting spending to the bone", usually this means the guy who does such things as removing the dead from tax rolls is furloughed to avoid paying her/him a salary.
Keep them going. But charge the users an appropriate fare that matches the per mile cost to get them from A to B and back...Whenever you hear "cut spending to the bone" from the GOP...just know there are consequences.
We subsidize amtrack to the tune of 1.5 billion+ a year to run routes that can't pay for themselves, why? Shouldn't they close unprofitable routes?
Ahh...You are incorrect. The reduction in the numbers of workers required to operate factories has been reduced because of new technologies that when used reduce the number of people required to do the work.China does not have all our manufacturing jobs. We are making more stuff than ever before.
Technology obsoleted our manufacturing jobs, not China.
Besides, manufacturing is the trough of the smiley curve of production value addition. Design and distribution are where its at.
That's why the US is being tough about protecting intellectual property rights in the negotiations.
There simply is no money in making T-shirts and lava lamps.
Absolutely false. The US used to export more than imported, now it's the other way around. You're importing far more than you're exporting leading to a trade imbalance. China is the country with the trade $$$ these days.
Holding the IT means that US corporations make money off the goods China makes, but American workers do not. Manufacturing the source of a country's wealth and you've sold to China for cheap goods.
Dumb move.
We already do subsidize all of the above.The US should be subsidizing rail transportation, public radio and television, and closing embassies is just the worst idea of all of them.
You'd be further ahead to close overseas military bases than embassies. It would save more money. You want to cut the peacemakers and say nothing about the warriors. Dumb, dumb and dumber.
Any sane first world nation would spend and invest in its infrastructure, science, and educational programs. Any nation that doesn't is a fucking basket case.
Why shouldn't we maintain our own country??? Any self respecting people would! We're not *******.
Ah the old liberal standby of "but what about"..Where would they get a job? And, would those jobs pay enough to get them off welfare? Do all of them have the education and training necessary? Are all of them able to work? Are children on welfare old enough to work? What about the aged and elderly? The disabled? What about the mentally challenged?We could tax the 47%, and give those on welfare one month to get a fuckin' job or starve.Well, if one can find the money for R&D, and exploration, one can find the money for infrastructure, don't you think?What would be the consequences to cutting ........ the care and support of illegal immigrants, building mosques on foreign soil, supplying weapons to drug lords and terrorists, most of the foreign aid given to foreign governments, exploring the far reaches of the universe, stupid projects such as the fence along our southern border, no-bid government contracts, unnecessary military spending, subsidies to rich farmers and big oil, bribes paid to North Korea and Iran, unnecessary government travel, the ridiculous perks and benefits given to members of Congress, lavish White House vacations, studying the sex habits of cockroaches, looking for water on the surface of Mars, and giving tax refunds to dead people?Whenever you hear "cut spending to the bone" from the GOP...just know there are consequences.
Nothing wrong with r&d and exploration. Both make real jobs and add to the strength of our nation..The rest you may have a point.
That would free up several trillion to fix the infrastructure, and create millions of jobs the leeches could take.
So, let everyone unemployed starve, including those mentioned above? Let our children starve? Our elderly? Our handicapped? Where would you send them to starve? Who would pay to bury all of them? Where would we bury them? There are 45.7 million presently on food stamps.
I'm NOT a Liberal, but I do believe that we need to spend on infrastructure. We could pay for it by cutting waste and unnecessary spending.In the wake of the Amtrak tragedy Democrats have been holding it up as an example of broken infrastructure and say we need to raise more taxes to invest into infrastructure like China does. Well perhaps if China did not have all of our manufacturing jobs we would have a local tax base that could pay for infrastructure and education. Only 14 Dem's bolted on Pacific trade bill that will lose more American jobs. Brilliant...just fucking brilliant.
What would about 2.5 million buy?
1. The National Institute of Health’s Center for Alternative and Complimentary Medicine spent $387,000 to study the effects of Swedish massages on rabbits.
2. The Department of Interior spent $10,000 to monitor the growth rate of saltmarsh grass. In other words, the government is paying people to watch grass grow. On the bright side, they have not started paying people to watch paint dry.
3. The National Science Foundation has granted more than $200,000 to a research project that is trying to determine how and why Wikipedia is sexist. Wikipedia’s War on Woman?
4. The National Institute of Health funded a study to see if mothers love dogs as much as they love kids. Regardless of the results, this experiment cost taxpayers $371,026.
5. The federal government has granted $804,254 for the development of a smartphone game called “Kiddio: Food Fight.” The game is intended to teach parents how to convince their children to try and eat new healthier food choices.
6. The National Endowment for the Humanities has provided $47,000 for undergraduate classes that teach students about laughing and humor.
7. The National Science Foundation spent $856,000 to teach mountain lions how to walk on treadmills as part of a research project whose aim was to better understand mountain lions’ instincts.
Top 7 Wackiest Examples of Wasteful Government Spending from Wastebook 2014
The NSF is one of the biggest federal slush funds in existence. It should be made to disappear.I'm NOT a Liberal, but I do believe that we need to spend on infrastructure. We could pay for it by cutting waste and unnecessary spending.In the wake of the Amtrak tragedy Democrats have been holding it up as an example of broken infrastructure and say we need to raise more taxes to invest into infrastructure like China does. Well perhaps if China did not have all of our manufacturing jobs we would have a local tax base that could pay for infrastructure and education. Only 14 Dem's bolted on Pacific trade bill that will lose more American jobs. Brilliant...just fucking brilliant.
What would about 2.5 million buy?
1. The National Institute of Health’s Center for Alternative and Complimentary Medicine spent $387,000 to study the effects of Swedish massages on rabbits.
2. The Department of Interior spent $10,000 to monitor the growth rate of saltmarsh grass. In other words, the government is paying people to watch grass grow. On the bright side, they have not started paying people to watch paint dry.
3. The National Science Foundation has granted more than $200,000 to a research project that is trying to determine how and why Wikipedia is sexist. Wikipedia’s War on Woman?
4. The National Institute of Health funded a study to see if mothers love dogs as much as they love kids. Regardless of the results, this experiment cost taxpayers $371,026.
5. The federal government has granted $804,254 for the development of a smartphone game called “Kiddio: Food Fight.” The game is intended to teach parents how to convince their children to try and eat new healthier food choices.
6. The National Endowment for the Humanities has provided $47,000 for undergraduate classes that teach students about laughing and humor.
7. The National Science Foundation spent $856,000 to teach mountain lions how to walk on treadmills as part of a research project whose aim was to better understand mountain lions’ instincts.
Top 7 Wackiest Examples of Wasteful Government Spending from Wastebook 2014
You ignorant twit. The wackiest example of wasteful Government spending is on Iraq. 2.5 million is just a damn drop in the bucket, compared to trillions wasted in/on Iraq.
The National Science Foundation (NSF) is an independent federal agency that supports fundamental research and education across all fields of science and engineering. In fiscal year (FY) 2015, its budget is $7.3 billion. NSF funds reach all 50 states through grants to nearly 2,000 colleges, universities and other institutions. Each year, NSF receives about 48,000 competitive proposals for funding, and makes about 11,000 new funding awards. NSF also awards about $626 million in professional and service contracts yearly.
And here's the article for NSF and their research on mountain lions. It's hardly just a walk on treadmills.
Study of mountain lion energetics shows the power of the pounce
Are mountain lions in danger of disappearing High Country News
I would like a high speed rr much like those in Europe!What's your point?Republicans - fuck infrastructure. Let this country die. I want my rights back.In the wake of the Amtrak tragedy Democrats have been holding it up as an example of broken infrastructure and say we need to raise more taxes to invest into infrastructure like China does. Well perhaps if China did not have all of our manufacturing jobs we would have a local tax base that could pay for infrastructure and education. Only 14 Dem's bolted on Pacific trade bill that will lose more American jobs. Brilliant...just fucking brilliant.
From 2001 to 2008, millions of jobs moved to China. Over 40,000 factories closed. Republicans held both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court.
Brilliant...just fucking brilliant.
Yeah.... you do realize that infrastructure doesn't' create jobs right?
And again, a child demands stuff. Adults consider what they can afford. It's funny because in 2008, you people on the left were screaming about Bush's $400 Billion deficit. But then you expect him to spend endlessly on 'infrastructure'.
Of course then the irony continued, because in 2009 you passed a massive $800 Billion stimulus package, which didn't stimulate anything, and only about $100 Billion went to infrastructure. And the very instant that this was done... you people on the left started screaming we should have spent more.
We did spend more. $700 Billion more. And you people on the left, had the House... the Senate... and the Presidency.... and you didn't spend enough on infrastructure? You blew throw $800 Billion, and only put about 14% of that towards infrastructure... and you had 100% control over the government? And you want to blame who for your complete and total incompetence?
No one to blame but yourselves.
Building and maintaining infrastructure does create jobs, short term (building) and long term (maintaining). How anyone can believe otherwise is mind blowing.
Consider the interstate highway system. How many business loops were created, building retail food, fuel and lodging structures; how many people are employed in the restaurants, hotels, motels, campgrounds and other services along thousands of miles of highway? How many state troopers patrol these miles, how many tow operators and repair shops aid the stranded traveler?
How many long haul truckers are on these roads everyday, and how many businesses are dependent on their goods being transported to and from retail establishments?
The fact is we have a reliable rail freight system. So you need......What?
Keep them going. But charge the users an appropriate fare that matches the per mile cost to get them from A to B and back...Whenever you hear "cut spending to the bone" from the GOP...just know there are consequences.
We subsidize amtrack to the tune of 1.5 billion+ a year to run routes that can't pay for themselves, why? Shouldn't they close unprofitable routes?
On every point, that's just crap, crap, and more crap. It's more crap than even I want to explain to you. It wasn't that long ago, you ought to be able to remember the details for yourself, but you choose to make it up as you go along.Republicans - fuck infrastructure. Let this country die. I want my rights back.In the wake of the Amtrak tragedy Democrats have been holding it up as an example of broken infrastructure and say we need to raise more taxes to invest into infrastructure like China does. Well perhaps if China did not have all of our manufacturing jobs we would have a local tax base that could pay for infrastructure and education. Only 14 Dem's bolted on Pacific trade bill that will lose more American jobs. Brilliant...just fucking brilliant.
From 2001 to 2008, millions of jobs moved to China. Over 40,000 factories closed. Republicans held both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court.
Brilliant...just fucking brilliant.
Yeah.... you do realize that infrastructure doesn't' create jobs right?
And again, a child demands stuff. Adults consider what they can afford. It's funny because in 2008, you people on the left were screaming about Bush's $400 Billion deficit. But then you expect him to spend endlessly on 'infrastructure'.
Of course then the irony continued, because in 2009 you passed a massive $800 Billion stimulus package, which didn't stimulate anything, and only about $100 Billion went to infrastructure. And the very instant that this was done... you people on the left started screaming we should have spent more.
We did spend more. $700 Billion more. And you people on the left, had the House... the Senate... and the Presidency.... and you didn't spend enough on infrastructure? You blew throw $800 Billion, and only put about 14% of that towards infrastructure... and you had 100% control over the government? And you want to blame who for your complete and total incompetence?
No one to blame but yourselves.
Pouring one billion dollars per year into a dysfunctional rail system is not an example of investing in the country.And assholes like you scream that it is all a boondoggle and we shouldn't invest in our own country. Even bridges that are highly needed or more money to upgrade them to be able to handle a future earth quake = boondoggle! You spent how much on infrastructure in Iraq? SO you have no effin room to whine!
We spend about 2-3% of the federal budget on infrastructure. If we wish to have the best,,,well, we better be ready to pay for it. Of course, you don't want us to be the best! Your plan is Slash, cut and burn!!!
AMTRAK should be sold off to the private sector. That will never happen as the democrats would have to weather a storm of protests from union officials and member workers of the Railroad Worker's Union.
BTW, why the hell should I take AMTRAK to say Northern NJ when I can get there three times as fast at half the cost?
And once I get to where I'm going would have to rent a car anyway?.....
I like trains. I think the country should have passenger rail service all over the place. But I am not willing to have my taxes increased so that some over stuffed government agency full of over indulged crooked bureaucrats can screw it up.
Do we? In just the last year, how many derailments have happened which resulted in cataclysmic fireballs? How many have either contaminated or threatened to contaminate water supplies? How many required people to run from their homes either from the threat of more explosions or the dispersal of deadly chemicals (which are sent by rail because they're too dangerous to send down a crowded interstate)? In case you've lost count, here's some interesting reading on the reliability of our rail freight system.What's your point?Republicans - fuck infrastructure. Let this country die. I want my rights back.In the wake of the Amtrak tragedy Democrats have been holding it up as an example of broken infrastructure and say we need to raise more taxes to invest into infrastructure like China does. Well perhaps if China did not have all of our manufacturing jobs we would have a local tax base that could pay for infrastructure and education. Only 14 Dem's bolted on Pacific trade bill that will lose more American jobs. Brilliant...just fucking brilliant.
From 2001 to 2008, millions of jobs moved to China. Over 40,000 factories closed. Republicans held both houses, the presidency and the Supreme Court.
Brilliant...just fucking brilliant.
Yeah.... you do realize that infrastructure doesn't' create jobs right?
And again, a child demands stuff. Adults consider what they can afford. It's funny because in 2008, you people on the left were screaming about Bush's $400 Billion deficit. But then you expect him to spend endlessly on 'infrastructure'.
Of course then the irony continued, because in 2009 you passed a massive $800 Billion stimulus package, which didn't stimulate anything, and only about $100 Billion went to infrastructure. And the very instant that this was done... you people on the left started screaming we should have spent more.
We did spend more. $700 Billion more. And you people on the left, had the House... the Senate... and the Presidency.... and you didn't spend enough on infrastructure? You blew throw $800 Billion, and only put about 14% of that towards infrastructure... and you had 100% control over the government? And you want to blame who for your complete and total incompetence?
No one to blame but yourselves.
Building and maintaining infrastructure does create jobs, short term (building) and long term (maintaining). How anyone can believe otherwise is mind blowing.
Consider the interstate highway system. How many business loops were created, building retail food, fuel and lodging structures; how many people are employed in the restaurants, hotels, motels, campgrounds and other services along thousands of miles of highway? How many state troopers patrol these miles, how many tow operators and repair shops aid the stranded traveler?
How many long haul truckers are on these roads everyday, and how many businesses are dependent on their goods being transported to and from retail establishments?
The fact is we have a reliable rail freight system. So you need......What?
